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:@] Why haven't you posted anything yet, Its 14th '''''] (])''''' 16:04, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
::I said "Thursday," and that day of the week has barely begun where I am right now. ]] 16:21, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
:::Sorry, my bad because the day is ending where I am. '''''] (])''''' 16:23, 14 November 2024 (UTC)
::::: :) No problem. Hopefully in the next couple of hours.
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Hi. I'm reworking your sources for the network-model map into a note, to have less text in the lead. Knowing your responses, I thought it wise to inform you personally, so you know that nothing starine or outlandish is going on. I really appreciate your network-model map, and this is an effort to make it even more accessible and understandable. Regards, ] - ] 09:52, 16 November 2024 (UTC)
:No idea what I meant with "starine"... I say it again: this network-model map is great. Regards, ] - ] 07:16, 17 November 2024 (UTC)
::I found a work-around for the notes-errors; I'm going to implant it later. Regards, ] - ] 07:03, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
:::Thanks for efn . Fabulous work, {{re|Joshua Jonathan}}. My compliments to the chef ]] 16:03, 18 November 2024 (UTC)
:{{re|Joshua Jonathan}} No problemo, Amigo. Starine == ], which was the title of Albert Camus's famous novel before the typos were taken out ]] 14:08, 18 November 2024 (UTC)


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== Mauryan Map == == Happy Holidays ==

The arguments in the main article are very bulky.

As you are one of the only or if not the only editors (right now in the argument), whos supporting the hole map.

I would like to know what sources you have based it on, it would be good if you could link ALL sources mentioning this.


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Now I don't want vague sources ("Mauryan empire was a loose knit empire), I want coherent sources exciplity mentioning the areas with holes and maybe some maps by scholars.


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Thank you. ] (]) 12:40, 20 November 2024 (UTC)


:I've said what I had to on the article's talk page. The map of the loose-knit empire, with large autonomous regions, based on major introductory textbooks, see ] for their role in ]. It is Wikpedia '''policy'''. All of them, the same ones that are used in Misplaced Pages's oldest country ], support that map. They are listed in the map caption's footnote. The realistic map has been in the ] article for going on four years. This is all I am going to say here, and for the last time. ]] 12:51, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
::Because as per Romila, the "autonomous regions" 's resources were still exploited by the Mauryans. - Romila Early India
::And also WP:OTHEARTICLE, but Macedonian Empire which controlled only major cities and routes does not have holes? ] (]) 13:06, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
:::Please don't post here again. The article's talk is the proper venue. Thanks. ]] 13:09, 20 November 2024 (UTC)
::::@], you just reverted my edits.
::::Could you provide me source that mentions The scripts by Chankaya as exxgration?
::::Also while reverting my edits you also reverted some of my edits which were not related to that manuscript. ] (]) 10:05, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::I've added them. The Arthasastra was discovered in the early 20th century. Nationalist historians of the time, treated it as gospel truth about the conditions prevailing in the Maurya realm. It is now considered to be prescriptive work (rather than objective history), composed some five centuries after the Mauryas. The last sentence of the first lead paragraph lays it bare. ]] 10:53, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
::::::Okay, maybe we could still add them but add lines that say they are exxagerated same way in Parthian Empire we have ] (]) 11:47, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::::The extensive notes in the first sentence of the lead (on sources) say just that. There is no reason to explicitly state it in the lead; the notes, which anyone can read are adequate in my view. ]] 11:51, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::::I'm reworking the lead. Please give me a day or two. I've noted your concerns. I'll try to weave them in somewhere. ]] 11:52, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
::::::::I understand and thanks. ] (]) 14:23, 21 November 2024 (UTC)


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Hi F&f. I'm going through the references & notes you added. When you copied back the sentence on the sources for the Mauryan Empire to the lead, you also duplicated the extensive references. Since they are named, the name of the reference suffices; I have removed the quotes from the lead, but don't worry, they show up, because they are also in the History#Sources-subsection. Regards, ] - ] 11:38, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
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:Shall I wait untill you're finished? ] - ] 11:47, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
::Yes, maybe. If you can hold on until tomorrow, it will be great. I'd like to get through the economy and the impact. Thanks. ]] 11:54, 21 November 2024 (UTC)


Yo. I hope you will look up to ] once you have free time. and try to resolve it from NPOV. it's over 20 hour.
:::Also working on ]; the interpretation of the ancient sources on the ceded territories is quite ambiguous; it seems to me, reading several sources, that ] refers only to a ''part'' of Gedrosia; and probably only the South Asian part just west of the Indus. I'm fine-tuning and expanding the info on that, including a note; when it's finished, I'll also copy it to the Mauryan Empire, as it nuances the 'Iranian territories' considerably. Regards, ] - ] 12:02, 21 November 2024 (UTC)
::::Sounds good ]] 12:07, 21 November 2024 (UTC)


if you don't have time then tell me , i will handle it.
:::::Tarn (1922), ''The Greeks In Bactria And India'', , refering to Eratosthenes, who states (in Tarn words) that :
:::::{{talkquote|Alexander took away from Iran the parts of these three satrapies which lay along the Indus and made of them separate governments or province; it was these which Seleucus ceded, being districts predominantly Indian in blood. In Gedrosia the boundary is known: the country ceded was that between the Median ] (probably the Purali) and the Indus.}}
Much Regards. ] (]) 16:08, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::So, regarding Gedrosia, nothing ''west'' of those mountains, as you seem to have argued before. ] - ] 19:47, 21 November 2024 (UTC)


== Rayka school ==
:::::Above is Tarn. Enjoy. ] - ] 07:46, 22 November 2024 (UTC)


Thanks for the nod! The photo was taken in 2008, so the kids are now c. 25 yo. I wonder how they have got on. Happy holidays to all (again), ] (]) 16:17, 25 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::Smith (1914): "The satrapy of Gedrosia (or Gadrosia) extended far to the west, and probably only the eastern part of it was annexed by Chandragupta. The Malin range of mountains, which Alexander experienced such difficulty in crossing, would have furnished a natural boundary."
:::::Malin mountain range is Malan mountain range, next to the Hingol river, mentioned in sevarl books describing Alexander's retreat from India. Tarn's Purali is the Porali river, a tributary of the Hingol. That's two sources who provide an explanation, and agree on the Malan mountain range/Porali river, just west of Karachi. ] - ] 11:00, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
::::::Thanks. I tend to agree with you. There is corroboration for your thesis in Joppen's very first map, which I'm attaching here:
::::::] As you know, both the Himalayas and the Hindu Kush ranges were uplifted by the Indian tectonic plate underthrusting Eurasia. Two river, the Indus and the Brahmaputra, which are old Eurasian rivers, had to change their respective courses, to accommodate the rising Himalayas (we are talking tens of millions YBP), the Indus to the west and the Brahmaputra to the east. You can locate the western end of the Himalayas by examining where the where the course of the Indus changes from northwest to southwest, approx 36N, 75E. This is the region of the western anchor of the Himalayas, the ] in Pakistan-administered Kashmir.
::::::Although the peak itself is not marked in Joppen's map, to its west lie the ], the parallel ranges running northeast to southwest until 70E. Some sources we looked at said, "below the Hindu Kush" Well, the 70E longitude line is more or less the western extent of the Mauryan empire, jibing I think with what you are saying. ]] 12:13, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::::Though this is not entirely relevant to the matter at hand, late this past winter, i.e. Feb 2024, I was flying from HK to Paris, sitting in a right window seat. I fell asleep at first, but when I woke up, I saw a wide but completely dry river bed below. I asked the stewardess, and she said, "We normally fly over southern Iran, but because of the war, the flight's course has changed. Soon the ] appeared, a distant but spectacular peak, rising far above its neighbors, and thereafter the Hindu Kush, beautiful but lower. I took pictures. Later I learned from the news that the dry river bed was the ]'s, or Hydraotes of Joppen's map. There were by diverting it via a new dam in Indian-administered Kashmir.
:::::::I don't know if it is true, but if so, it would be a spectacular example of national arrogance&mdash;i.e., forget the humans, you destroyed a ], that had survived millennia of South Asian history, not least of which was Alexander or before him ] of the ]. The Indians claimed they had the water rights, ... , (<small><small>as Isa's famous haiku written at the death of his toddler son, said.</small></small>) ]] 13:07, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
::::::::That Joppen-map is terrific! You can't cede territory that you don't control. ] - ] 14:10, 23 November 2024 (UTC)
==Two videos 1. Indus and Nanga Parbat, 2 Hindu Kush mountain range==
And here are two videos from late February 2024 from our flight (from Hong Kong to Paris) diverted because of the Middle East war, and instead flying due NW in ], ]. The first is of the ] and way behind it, towering above the cloud layer, ], the western anchor of the ]. The plane from my iphone data seemed to have been above the historic village of ], which is a 2-hour drive due NW from the Maurya stronghold of ]. The second is of the eastern ] mountain range taken from approximately above the ], connecting ] and ] in the border area of Pakistan with Afghanistan.
] and ]]]
::::::::] range from approximately above ]]]. As the plane was flying due NW, you can see that the Hindu Kush run NE to SW, as in Joppen's map. It was through passes in the Hindu Kush that the ], their horses, and ] arrived in ] ca. 1500&ndash;1200 BCE. I'll eventually add the videos to the appropriate WP galleries. Unfortunately, when we were flying above the dried up ] (see section above) I was only half awake and didn't think of taking out my phone, but that sight is seared in memory. ]] 00:01, 24 November 2024 (UTC)

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Reiterating as much for myself as for others that for the next several months I shall be working on three articles, Mandell Creighton, Company rule in India, and History of English grammars. They have been on my backburner far too long. My time for all other activities on Misplaced Pages will be severely restricted.
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  • Indian vultures, (Gyps indicus), in a nest on the tower of the Chaturbhuj Temple, Orchha, Madhya Pradesh. The vulture became nearly extinct in India in the 1990s from having ingested the carrion of diclofenac-laced cattle. Indian vultures, (Gyps indicus), in a nest on the tower of the Chaturbhuj Temple, Orchha, Madhya Pradesh. The vulture became nearly extinct in India in the 1990s from having ingested the carrion of diclofenac-laced cattle.
  • The bank myna is indigenous to the Indian subcontinent. The bank myna is indigenous to the Indian subcontinent.
  • The vulnerable Malabar frog is endemic to the Western Ghats. The vulnerable Malabar frog is endemic to the Western Ghats.
  • The endangered Nilgiri tahr is endemic to the Western Ghats. Shown here is a female in a national park in Kerala. The endangered Nilgiri tahr is endemic to the Western Ghats. Shown here is a female in a national park in Kerala.

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  • The brahminy kite (Haliastur indus) hunts for fish and other prey near the coasts and around inland wetlands. The brahminy kite (Haliastur indus) hunts for fish and other prey near the coasts and around inland wetlands.
  • The lotus (Nelumbo nucifera) is the Indian national flower. Hindus and Buddhists regard it as a sacred symbol of enlightenment. The lotus (Nelumbo nucifera) is the Indian national flower. Hindus and Buddhists regard it as a sacred symbol of enlightenment.
  • The Indian peafowl (Pavo cristatus) is the Indian national bird. It roosts in moist and dry-deciduous forests, cultivated areas, and village precincts. The Indian peafowl (Pavo cristatus) is the Indian national bird. It roosts in moist and dry-deciduous forests, cultivated areas, and village precincts.
  • The Pahalgam valley in Jammu and Kashmir is covered with a temperate coniferous forest. The Pahalgam valley in Jammu and Kashmir is covered with a temperate coniferous forest.

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  • A Chola bronze depicting Nataraja, who is seen as a cosmic "Lord of the Dance" and representative of Shiva A Chola bronze depicting Nataraja, who is seen as a cosmic "Lord of the Dance" and representative of Shiva
  • A sixteenth century rendering of a scene from the Ramayana, an ancient Sanskrit epic. A sixteenth century rendering of a scene from the Ramayana, an ancient Sanskrit epic.

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  • The recycling industry in India, a Varanasi paper bag seller The recycling industry in India, a Varanasi paper bag seller
  • An example of the Chinese fishing nets of Cochin. Fisheries in India is a major industry in its coastal states, employing over 14 million people. The annual catch doubled between 1990 and 2010. An example of the Chinese fishing nets of Cochin. Fisheries in India is a major industry in its coastal states, employing over 14 million people. The annual catch doubled between 1990 and 2010.
  • A tea garden in Sikkim. India, the world's second largest-producer of tea, is a nation of one billion tea drinkers, who consume 70% of India's tea output. A tea garden in Sikkim. India, the world's second largest-producer of tea, is a nation of one billion tea drinkers, who consume 70% of India's tea output.
  • A daily wage worker in a salt field. The average minimum wage of daily labourers is around Rs.100 per day A daily wage worker in a salt field. The average minimum wage of daily labourers is around Rs.100 per day

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  • A bharatnatyam concert in 2014 A bharatnatyam concert in 2014
  • A Bondo woman walks to a weekly market in Chhattisgarh. A Bondo woman walks to a weekly market in Chhattisgarh.
  • A woman in Bundi, Rajasthan A woman in Bundi, Rajasthan
  • An ascetic in Varanasi, Uttar Pradesh An ascetic in Varanasi, Uttar Pradesh

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  • Battered religious figures stand watch on a hill above a tattered valley. Nagasaki, Japan. September 24, 1945 Battered religious figures stand watch on a hill above a tattered valley. Nagasaki, Japan. September 24, 1945
  • 17th century Painting on cloth of of Buddha Shakyamuni as Lord of the Munis with Bodhisatvas in background. 17th century Painting on cloth of of Buddha Shakyamuni as Lord of the Munis with Bodhisatvas in background.
  • The Gathering of Four Buddhas. 1562 CE, National Museum of Art, Korea. The Gathering of Four Buddhas. 1562 CE, National Museum of Art, Korea.
  • Two women walk past the huge cavity where one of the ancient Buddhas of Bamiyan used to stand, June 17, 2012. The monumental statues were built in A.D. 507 and 554 Two women walk past the huge cavity where one of the ancient Buddhas of Bamiyan used to stand, June 17, 2012. The monumental statues were built in A.D. 507 and 554

Buddha related FPs II

  • Monk walks in the morning after the rain in front of the Temple of the Emerald Buddha (Wat Phra Kaew), part of the Grand Palace, Bangkok, Thailand. Monk walks in the morning after the rain in front of the Temple of the Emerald Buddha (Wat Phra Kaew), part of the Grand Palace, Bangkok, Thailand.
  • Buddha Amitabha in His Pure Land of Suvakti, Central Tibet. 18th century; Ground mineral pigment on cotton Buddha Amitabha in His Pure Land of Suvakti, Central Tibet. 18th century; Ground mineral pigment on cotton
  • English: Shakyamuni Buddha with Avadana Legend Scenes. Tibet. Date 19th century English: Shakyamuni Buddha with Avadana Legend Scenes. Tibet. Date 19th century
  • Chiang Mai, Thailand: Buddhist Manuscript Library and Museum Chiang Mai, Thailand: Buddhist Manuscript Library and Museum

Things to do on 6/10/22

  • Thapa, Namrata; Tamang, Jyoti Prakash (2020), "Ethnic Fermented Foods and Beverages of Sikkim and Darjeeling Hills (Gorkhaland Territorial Administration)", in Tamang, Jyoti Prakash (ed.), Ethnic Fermented Foods and Beverages of India: Science History and Culture, Singapore: Springer Nature, ISBN 978-981-15-1485-2 and
  • Tamang, Jyoti P.; Sarkar, Prabir K; Hesseltine, Clifford W (1988). "Traditional Fermented Foods and Beverages of Darjeeling". Journal of the Science of Food and Agriculture. 44 (4): 375–385. doi:10.1002/jsfa.2740440410.
  • Add something on Tibetan refugees in Darjeeling.

Io Saturnalia!

Io, Saturnalia!
Wishing you and yours a Happy Holiday Season, from the horse and bishop person. May the year ahead be productive and distraction-free. Ealdgyth (talk) 15:09, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

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Season's Greetings
Wishing everybody a Happy Holiday Season, and all best wishes for the New Year! The Adoration of the Magi in the Snow (1563) by Pieter Bruegel the Elder is my Wiki-Christmas card to all for this year. Johnbod (talk) 17:36, 17 December 2024 (UTC)

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Dear User:Fowler&fowler, thank you for your kind Seasons Greetings wishes. I hope that you have a Merry Christmas and a most joyous New Year! With regards, Anupam 19:31, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

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Yo. I hope you will look up to here once you have free time. and try to resolve it from NPOV. it's over 20 hour.

if you don't have time then tell me , i will handle it.

Much Regards. Callmehelper (talk) 16:08, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

Rayka school

Thanks for the nod! The photo was taken in 2008, so the kids are now c. 25 yo. I wonder how they have got on. Happy holidays to all (again), Johnbod (talk) 16:17, 25 December 2024 (UTC)