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== Getting Started ==
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Want to help but don't know how? Got a technical question? Ask it here. ---'''Shane Landrum''' (]) 02:56, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
: I wrote up a last night with more information on how to get started helping. If/when you write one, follow up here with a link. ---'''Shane Landrum''' (]) 14:11, 5 February 2011 (UTC)


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=== Stub identification -- how? ===


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I want to dive in identifying stub articles that need work. I can add the stub template to them, but should I be marking them here on WP:WMNHIST or something as well? How will we find them again? --] (]) 21:23, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
:Current conversation below ("Stub templates and marking") and at ] is uncovering a myriad of issues around Misplaced Pages policy relative to officially-named stubs. I'm inclined to avoid the stub process altogether in favor of the assessment template ] has suggested, which I think will be more useful for more purposes. If you'd like to set up a templates section in the above nav, start a basic assessment template, and start a discussion around that, it would be really handy. (We don't have to actually '''do''' any assessments yet, but placing the assessment template will allow us to generate a project page of entries which use that template.) As long as our assessment template has a "stub" rating somewhere, we can use it to mark entries that need work. Does that make sense? ---'''Shane Landrum''' (] | ] | ]) 23:05, 7 February 2011 (UTC)


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: I'll modify what I just said. If someone could make a decision about the Banner templates below (fix them up aesthetically, modify the Banner to be an assessment template, etc) and then create them as separate templates linked from ], that would be ideal. Once that's done, we'll need to: 1) create a backlinks page for all entries marked with that template; 2) modify the project's base page to explain how to use that assessment template for marking entries as within the scope of our project; 3) start a separate decision about the precise assessment criteria we want to use, overlapping where possible with the criteria for ] and similar projects. ---'''Shane Landrum''' (] | ] | ]) 23:13, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
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Hi. Can someone give some care and love to ] please?
I've ] {{tl|women-hist-stub}} and the category ]. On 11 Feb 2011, if there are no objections, this can be created as a formal stub template and stub category, and then we can start marking articles appropriately.---'''Shane Landrum''' (]) 17:18, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
:I noticed the proposal on the stub project, I think you may be better off with something similar to ]. It will allow you to rate articles on importance as well as the class and not just that it is a stub article. I can't find a page with a description of how a wikiproject goes about creating them and using them but hopefully it's fairly easy to work out otherwise see if another wikiproject which uses a similar template can help. ] (]) 22:37, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
:: What I think I hear you saying is that we'll be better off with an assessment-style scale for quality and/or importance rather than simply an "is this a stub or not?" marking system. That makes sense. I wonder whether it makes sense to piggyback onto ] formally-- some kind of joint task force on biographies of women, at least for the parts of ] which are biography-related. Thoughts, anyone? ---'''Shane Landrum''' (] &#124; ] &#124; ]) 03:35, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
:::Stubs risk deletion; nonstubs, not so much. And a way to see when women get too little coverage is vital. Assessments seem to be done by all of the WikiProjects already, so that tool or system seems widely available without having to use someone else's. Subsuming creates invisibility and lowers priority. I hope WikiProject Women's History goes forward. ] (]) 04:33, 7 February 2011 (UTC)


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:::: Strongly agree. See my above replies to Skud (1 topic up) for next suggested steps: creating an assessment template out of the Banner template below. ---'''Shane Landrum''' (] &#124; ] &#124; ]) 23:15, 7 February 2011 (UTC)


I would be grateful if some people with subject knowledge could assess the sweeping edits currently being done to that article. I'm getting the impression that this is the wholesale replacement of one interpretation with another, based on very selective sources, but I simply don't know the subject area. In any case I suspect these big deletes/replacements need some talk page discussion before being implemented. - Also notified ]. --<span style="font-family:Courier">]</span> <small>(] · ])</small>
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Let's create a banner for members to add to their User pages and for the Talk pages of articles. In honor of Shane's Cliotropic, should we use a free image of Clio as part of the logo - check these out already in Wikimedia Commons ] ] (]) 17:36, 7 February 2011 (UTC)


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OK, I've created a template: ] ... It's now included above, and you can include it similarly on the talk page of any women's history article. It should appropriately populate relevant categories, I hope! I'm going to experiment with it now. --] (]) 00:56, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
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: To follow up... I've now added this to a few articles and it looks like it's working OK. I guess the next step is to plough through the epic list of articles on the project page and add it to each one. To do that, the steps are: 1) visit the article page, 2) click through to "Discussion", 3) Add a line that says "WikiProject Women's History" surrounded by two curly brackets. For example look at ]. --] (]) 01:02, 8 February 2011 (UTC)


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::: I don't think we need to do that yet. We can use the default quality scale, as many other projects do: In fact I'm going to copy that over to our own assessment page right now. If/when we need something more specific to our needs, we can deal with it then. --] (]) 04:37, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
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:: Thanks for the clear instructions, Skud. I'm fairly new to this (I'm one of those not-young-not-male contributors that are supposed to be so rare!), so I especially appreciate it. Going through the "epic list" right now, and deleting them from the project page once they have the banner (as suggested). It's pretty easy to work in batches, get a rhythm going... ] (]) 05:04, 8 February 2011 (UTC)Penny Richards


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Can someone please take a look at this article and explain/fix why the 2006 awards aren't mentioned? ] (]) 11:44, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
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== 20% women's biographies on English Misplaced Pages ==
I'm trying to alphabetize lists wherever possible, to avoid duplications. ] (]) 18:27, 8 February 2011 (UTC)Penny Richards


Hello friends, if you follow Wikiproject Women in Red you might have seen that the proportion of women's biographies on English Misplaced Pages just tipped over 20% and it's a fatastic achievement for everyone!!! I'd like to do a post on Diff (the Wikimedia Foundation's blog) about it and would love to add perspectives from this project (as well as others) - ''']'''. If you can edit it before, I'm hoping to post something 18:00 UTC on 21 Dec ] (]) 14:52, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
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I'm finding that a lot of entries that turn up red on the epic list actually do exist, under a different version of the name. I suppose this is always an issue, but especially so for women's names. Just a heads up to check the usual variations before putting anyone under the list of entries that need to be started. ] (]) 18:27, 8 February 2011 (UTC)Penny Richards
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:where there are name variants, creating ] from the name variant to the page that does exist is really useful.] (]) 19:12, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
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Cora Sue Collins

Hi. Can someone give some care and love to Cora Sue Collins please?

Sexual slavery in Islam

I would be grateful if some people with subject knowledge could assess the sweeping edits currently being done to that article. I'm getting the impression that this is the wholesale replacement of one interpretation with another, based on very selective sources, but I simply don't know the subject area. In any case I suspect these big deletes/replacements need some talk page discussion before being implemented. - Also notified WikiProject Islam. --Elmidae (talk · contribs)

GAR of Eva Perón

Eva Perón

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Article (edit | visual edit | history) · Article talk (edit | history) · Watch • Watch article reassessment page • GAN review not found
Result: Delisting per general consensus. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:19, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

GA from 2006, it was't reassessed. Half of the article is unsourced, with 'This article needs additional citations for verification.' on top, 5 'citation needed' tags and two 'This section does not cite any sources' templates (Female Peronist Party and women's suffrage and Honours), see also unsourced sections: Juan Perón's arrest, 1946 presidential election, European tour, Vice-presidential nomination, Re-election and Spiritual Leader of the Nation; and 19 'page needed' tags. Artem.G (talk) 19:17, 16 January 2023 (UTC)

Delist - Article needs a lot of work to be kept as a GA. Onegreatjoke (talk) 21:50, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
Delist per above. Needs significant work. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 12:19, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
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Good article reassessment for Martha Hughes Cannon

Martha Hughes Cannon has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 01:24, 19 November 2024 (UTC)

Women in Red December 2024

Women in Red | December 2024, Vol 10, Issue 12, Nos 293, 294, 324, 325


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Discussion on date format

Hi! I have recently opened up a discussion on the date format of the article for Kalpana Chawla. You can find it on the Talk page. Would like to see people's perspectives on it. Thank you! Spookyaki (talk) 22:36, 1 December 2024 (UTC)

Alliance of Women Film Journalists

Can someone please take a look at this article and explain/fix why the 2006 awards aren't mentioned? CapnZapp (talk) 11:44, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

crossposting on WikiProject Journalism and WikiProject Women's History

20% women's biographies on English Misplaced Pages

Hello friends, if you follow Wikiproject Women in Red you might have seen that the proportion of women's biographies on English Misplaced Pages just tipped over 20% and it's a fatastic achievement for everyone!!! I'd like to do a post on Diff (the Wikimedia Foundation's blog) about it and would love to add perspectives from this project (as well as others) - a draft is here, please please add to it. If you can edit it before, I'm hoping to post something 18:00 UTC on 21 Dec Lajmmoore (talk) 14:52, 20 December 2024 (UTC)

Good article reassessment for Romaine Brooks

Romaine Brooks has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the reassessment page. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, the good article status may be removed from the article. Z1720 (talk) 23:43, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

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