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== Talkback ==
Joao, I'm sorry I ignored your plan for the article. I thought it would be better to make it entirely scientific, and put the political aspects in ] -- which still needs much work. I need your help with that, as well as with ]. Please give me your suggestions, and I will to try to cooperate on our common goal of improving the wikipedia. -- Ed


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Ed: your unilateral decision to redirect the U.S. Attack on Afghanistan pages is upsetting. There was discussion about the naming of the page: see ]. I would have appreciated it greatly if you had discussed your arguments for changing the title before you redirected everything.


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Especially as there is a bug in the system which makes it very difficult to endo redirects, I really wish you hadn't done this unilaterally. We need to be able to trust and respect each other.
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:Okay, I read the talk. I still disagree, but not enough to re-revert your reverts. --Ed
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''moving sex education and sexuality morality debate from "affronting" subpage.'' '''I started answering this, and frankly, Ed, I don't wish to waste any more time on you and your hobbyhorse. I'm not your lab rat, and nothing I say will change the fact that your <i>a priori</i> beliefs will not allow you to accept that others find many of the things you say are just bloody wrong.'''


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Ed -- whatever. If you don't understand that:
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*that you constantly insult anyone who disagrees with you by questioning the quality of their morals and by using terms like "liberal" as insults (and even people who would claim to be liberals might find the implications with which you load the term insulting);
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:Please point out a few of my alleged "constant insults", or else I must consider this an ''ad hominem'' argument.
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*that your entry immediately below this impugns the motives and good will of people who regularly contribute high-quality articles to the wikipedia and are known to regularly HELP to make articles NPOV;
:I am unaware of impugning anyone's motives on wikipedia. Please explain why you think this -- or are you merely impugning MY motives (more ''ad hominem'' argument)?
''Oh just stop it.
*that your tone is incredibly, appalingly, patronizing, and dripping with an offensive (at least to me) implication that you are somehow an innocent victim of those nasty liberals, and all you want to do is contribute quality work and get along with others,
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I can't speak for anyone else, but your recent apologetic (although still patronizing) tone does not for a minute convince me that this is not all going to happen again the next time you want to through up a deliberately inflammatory article on your views of "traditional" (by which you mean conservative Christians in the US) morality as applied to subject ''X''. Oh -- and by the way, I understand that you ''believe'' that liberals try to undermine traditional morality -- but as this argument is pretty damned ''ad hominem'' itself (because you assume from the outset that traditional morality is the only legitimate morality) -- I just think that you are operating in a world in which you refuse to accept that you cannot dissociate yourself from your biases. ]


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What Dr. Kemp and some others seem not to understand is that liberals constantly try to undermine traditional morality, while claiming not to be doing so.
:Ed, this statement is crap. The only way I can make sense of it is that you are mixing up two separate things. I suggest you take them separately, and respond to them thoughtfully.
::I was speaking of liberals in general, not singling out anyone here. The liberal attack on morality consists chiefly of denying that there should be any morality at all, or of saying that no moral jugments should be made (except that judgments themselves are paradoxically judged as bad). --Ed
:::You are wrong. Please "attribute these views," as you have demanded numerous times. (By the way, although this is a digression from the matter at hand, I would like to suggest to you that it is the fact that you make sweeping remarks about "liberals," without attributing these remarks, and that you make claims about "conservatives" or "traditional" without providing any attribution, AND THEN you insist that your interlocutors provide attributions, that just ''might'' be one reason Dr. Kemp finds your tone and remarks often insulting and patronizing and disingenuous. I am of course speculating, and not trying to speak for her.) In any event, most liberals are highly moral, ant often moralistic and moralizing, people (even if you do not agree with their morality).


:The first thing is what I will call procedural liberalism, although political scientists and political theorists might have another term for it. This is the notion that in a liberal (in the oldfashioned, non-partisan sense of modern democratic) state, individuals should be free to believe whatever they want and to act on their beliefs insofar as their actions do not impinge on the freedoms of others. I believe that there are many people on the political left who claim not to be undermining traditional morality '''per se''' when they argue that the US political and legal system must operate according to this principle.
::Did you say the left? I thought that was a conservative viewpoint as well. --Ed
:::Maybe, but this isn't relevant to my observation. My observation was only meant to describe more accurately the position of many liberals, which you misrepresented. I have no doubt that there are non-liberals who would agree with this position.


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:IF you see their calls for pluralism and tolerance, and a political and legal process that acts on this principle (rather than the specific beliefs of a specific group) as "undermining traditional morality," THEN you need to confront the implication that "traditional morality" and "liberal democracy" (meaning, democracy that also ensures individual rights, i.e. the rule of the majority moderated by rule of law) are at odds.
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::That's not how I see it. I am a political conservative, and I believe that the government should not interfere with my religion as long as I don't harm anyone.
:::Not enough -- you must also be committed to the belief that government should not interfere with the beliefs of ''others'' (both religious and non-religious beliefs)
::I believe in pluralism, not particularism (perhaps we should define these terms). I believe tolerance to a limited extent: I don't believe schoolchildren should be told that gay adoption and gay marriage is good '''in the name of tolerance'''.
:::Then you are intolerant, and also disingenuous to call yourself a political pluralist (n the sense I describe above) IF (and only if, and I admit that although this is the impression I have of your argument I might have misunderstood you) your opposition to gay adoption and gay marriage is derived from your religion. You have the right to your own beliefs, but they should not dictate public policy because "the public" includes people with very different beliefs. In any event, I think you misunderstand sex education AND oversimplify "good." There is a difference between saying that "gay marriage is good" and "since there are gays who have committed relationships, it is a good thing that they be allowed to marry." The reason I say this is because I am not so sure I think gay marriage is a good thing only because I am not so sure any marriage is a good thing; marriage may be a corrupt and immoral institution for all people. Nevertheless, if our society gives certain benefits to married couples and spouses, and allows heterosexual people to get married, then I am sure that it is a good thing that gay couples have a right to get married. There is also a difference between saying that something is good for some people, and saying that it is good for all people. For example, heterosexuality may be good for some people and I cannot object to heterosexual relationships. But it is clearly not good for all people and shouldn't be imposed or be given preference in public institutions.
::I think tolerance, in a biology class, should extend to allowing students to dispute the scientific reasoning of Darwinists without repercussion or censorship.
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:In other words, it may not be "liberals" who are undermining "traditional morality" but the whole notion of liberal democracy.
::I think liberal democracy (if I have my terms right) is not undermining traditional morality, but liberals are using political power in the US to undermine it. I'm not sure what relevance this has to the sex education article, though.


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:But you must take seriously their claim that they are not seeking to "undermine traditional morality," rather they are trying to promote a society where you are free to live as you please, but so am I.
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::There is a difference between encouraging children to go against tradition, and allowing adults to make their own choices. Surely you see that. It is by telling children that they '''shouldn't''' let traditional sexual mores bind them that liberals make their attack on traditonal sexual mores. Should we teach children to make up their own mind on issues such as cheating on tests, or stealing?
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:::Cheating on tests and stealing are dishonest and harm others; premarital sex and homosexuality are not necessarily dishonest or harmful, and certainly no more prone to dishonesty and harm than heterosexual sex within a marriage. So this is one reason why your analogy is false. But there is another, far more important reason why your analogy is false given the context of this discussion. Liberal democracy makes room for a host of different views. Most adults in our society agree that cheating and stealing are wrong. Even people who cheat and steal usually admit that what they did was wrong. There is more or less a societal consensus and it makes sense to promote this consensus in public schools. But there is no such consensus when it comes to sexual mores. Well, most people think bestiality and pedophilia are wrong, and most people (including people who have pre-marital sex or are gay) would not promote a value-free discussion of bestiality and pedophilia in publis schools. So maybe this is one are of consensus. But there is no similar consensus when it comes to pre-marital sex or homosexuality, so it is CRUCIAL that there be a value-free discussion of it in school. By value free I do not mean discussion various risks and difficulties (after all, there should be discussion of the risks and difficulties in heterosexual marriage too!) -- I just mean there should be no claim that something is "right" or "wrong." I do not see how any alternative is consistent with liberal democracy (in the limited and older sense we seem to agree on)


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:The second thing is "liberals" and others further on the political left who do indeed undermine "traditional morality" But here, the reason I take issue with what you wrote is that these people IN NO WAY claim NOT to do so.
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::I think you are in error here. You just told me that ''you must take seriously their claim that they are not seeking to "undermine traditional morality," '' Am I missing something, or did you just contradict yourself?
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:::You are missing something, and it is the point I made in the beginning of this exchange -- to which you responded that "I was speaking of liberals in general." You completely miss my point, which is that you should NOT speak of "liberals in general" because you will end up obscuring the difference between two very different points of view. By calling both points of view "liberal" and by trying to find some LCD position, you will necessarily misrepresent them. And then when I say there are two different points of view you will think I am contradicting myself because you still think htere is only one point of view. But there isn't, there are two (at least two) and they indeed might contradict, but that is okay because they are held by different kinds of liberals! Here I am now discussing the second liberal position (indicated by my use of the word "second"). Above, when I wrote "you must take seriously their claim that they are not seeking to "undermine traditional morality," I was discussing the ''first'' position (indicated by my use of the word "first"). These are two positions, and to repeat myself, your problem is that you do not separate them. Don'e keep making the mistake by trying to keep combining them!


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::Branding something as "immoral" is a form of opposition. I can only conclude that they oppose traditional morality. This should be in the article.
:::Okay -- but ''what you actually wrote'' was NOT that they were opposed to "traditional morality," but that tey were opposed to "morality." Don't you see my point? It seems pretty simple -- these are just two different things, and it is wrong, both factually and morally, to conflate the two in this discussion.


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:These are two different things, although perhaps they have in common the fact that you do not like them. I don't like olives and I don't like ham, but I don't mix the two things up. I admit that mixing up ham and olives is pretty trivial and innocuous (unless you work at a deli). But mixing up people who consider "traditional values" to be immoral, with people who promote a liberal democracy, is dangerous because it clouds very serious social and political issues while, as is clearly the case here, gravely (and I think ultimately unnecessarily -- if your intention Ed is indeed not to offend but something else) offending someone. SR


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:::Some conservatives are for increased state control over some domains, some liberals are for increased state control over other domains. The way you wrote it is too vague to be accurate let alone informative. Many (but not all, I think) liberals would see any sort of sex-eduation that has a bias towards heterosexuality or marriage to reflect an unfair form of state interference into people's private lives (meaning, it should be up to the private individual to decide whether to come out of the closet or not, to have sex before or during marriage, etc. State institutions such a schools should be value-neutral in this regard or they are just increasing their control over peoples lives, as you put it). As Danile andothers have pointed out, it is not clear that what you call "traditional morality" is really traditional. But yes, liberals and conservates often disagree over what is moral. But what YOU wrote was that liberals were opposed to morality itself. That was wrong and I cannot believe you didn't know it was wrong, it seems so obviously wrong to me.


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:::Well, I hope my comments here help further that possibility! SR
To be NPOV, the wikipedia needs to attribute views to their proponents, not state them as facts. Larry has said this repeatedly, and I agree with him.


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Liberals, however, often have trouble following the NPOV policy. Although I hesitate to speculate about the motives of people I haven't spoken with in person, it may be either a conscious or unconscious attempt to win debating points on their part. Be that as it may, I have no wish to engage in ''ad hominem'' arguments. I will leave that to others, if they enjoy it.
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My proposal, for those who are interested, is that we all focus on improving articles which we know something about and care about. No one is forced to contribute, and no one's words are immune to merciless revision. Generally, if other contributors repeatedly delete my contributions, I choose not to retaliate (an eye for an eye makes us both blind). But the difficulty of adhering to NPOV knows no ideological bounds, and sometimes I fall short of the mark. I really do appreciate the help I get from others.
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I do make a practice of being open about my motivations. I think it saves time to tell the truth, as Mr. Kiku said in Heinlein's "The Star Beast". I hope others will be equally open, but I do not think it's nearly as important as remembering to attribute views to their proponents. --Ed
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:No need to question, Ed. I'm entirely sincere in everything I've said. It is not a mischaracterization, because I've only stated the impressions I have based on what you've said. Oh -- and I didn't actually call you the representative of good -- merely pointed out that you seemed to have given yourself this role. You must have been confused. ]
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Hi, Ed! -- Welcome back. I notice you are again starting articles on which you cannot be neutral, and I have to ask, WHY???? By the way, I went to school in California when the schools were ranked highest in the country. They were well funded, and fairly liberal. My sex education classes ranged from basic anatomy (you're going to get your period, girls) to encouraging a healthy attitude towards accepting our bodies and sexuality. Birth control was discussed, but the teachers always claimed that abstinence was the best method of birth control and that sex was not a substitute for liking yourself. Byt the time I was a senior in high school, we also discussed STDs and, the day before Senior Prom, my biology teacher brought in some ex-students who worked at planned parenthood, who demonstrated how to put on a condom without breaking it. Some people surreptitiously palmed a couple of condoms for later, but most of us just laughed and filed the info away for future reference. At no time were we pushed to "accept immoral practices". We were, however, taught that some people, for whatever reason, were gay, and that, even if we found it an immoral practice, we lived in a country where it was legal to be gay, and it was wrong to attack people (verbally or physically) because of it. I'm sure sex ed has changed -- i'll have to ask my daughter. But really...could you please not write articles if you know in advance you can't be neutral? ]
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:In the battle between good and evil, the mere failure to condemn evil is the precise equivalent of accepting it. Education which promotes a "non-judgmental attitude" toward something thus pushes students to accept it. I refuse to be neutral: I oppose evil. However, I have agreed to '''write''' from an ] when contributing to the wikipedia. I will still call a spade a spade, but in cases where many others want to call it a diamond I will try to indicate a '''source''' for its identification as a spade. Fair enough? --Ed Poor


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Ed, I hardly think that believing in free will and that man was granted the ability to reason and make choices can be construed as evil. As usual, you are oversimplifying the argument and condemning others who disagree. Whether or not you like it, not even all Christians believe the same thing (or at least not all to the same degree) when it comes to sexual mores. Your "traditional" does not make it the only viewpoint, and is certainly not the only moral one, nor does it represent the views of all religions and cultures. It's insulting and arrogant for you to claim that you are somehow the representative of good vs. evil, and those of us who wish for a balanced article that includes information with which you don't agree represent some corrupting force. ]


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*''Ed, one of my objections is that almost all of your contributions start out as this one has. To wit: Ed places a very non-NPOV stub on the site; immediately, many people jump in to try to add to and neutralize the content; Ed takes offense and sparks major debate over morality; Ed answers objections on NPOV, etc., with something like, "please delineate its complexity in the article. I will be happy to read your contribution" -- implying that you have some type of editorial rights that the rest of us don't.''
*''Have you not realized that: 1)'''you are not the arbiter of what goes into an article''', and 2)'''you are abusing the time and efforts of others by working in this fashion'''?'' Understand that I call abuse because you depend upon people who care about the quality of the content on the site to jump in and contribute to subjects they may not have wanted to write on, but feel obligated because they care about the project. It's really inconsiderate and (based on my own experience and the inferences I've drawn from that experience) manipulative of you. Your methods force others to do the bulk of the work while you take advantage of the evangelical opportunities that always arise from the debate on "traditional" morality -- traditional in quotes because I know right-wing, Rush limbaugh Republicans who would disagree with you -- not to mention tons of other people who are very moral.''


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*''As above -- you imply that those of us who argue with you about the characteristics of morality are somehow of lesser mental capacity, moral worth, and/or influenced by evil -- it's offensive and likely untrue.''
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::Don't put words in my mouth. I said that you are welcome to oppose ''what you consider evil'' and advocate for ''what you consider good'', just like I do, '''but not on Misplaced Pages'''. This is not a space to advocate viewpoints. Do it on your website, on Usenet, write letters to the editor, whatever. Your goal in contributing to Misplaced Pages, quite obviously, is not to create a good encyclopedia, but to sneak in your point of view. By doing that, you suck time out of the rest of us. ]


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#I am not the world's leading advocate of goodness, but that should be no bar to contributing ideas about goodness vs. evil to the wikipedia. You do it, yourself.
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#Your biggest mistake, would be to think that I don't want a balanced article. Is this what you really think? Come on, now, what would make you think I opposed balance and NPOV? I have no objection whatsoever to "including information with which I don't agree" -- it must merely be labeled correctly as to who believes it, in accordance with ] policy.
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The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 349 active members. We would like to welcome our newest members, ] and ]. Thank you all for your interest in this effort. If any members, new or not, wish any assistance, they should feel free to leave a message at the ] or with me or other individual editors to request it.


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I hoped I had cleared up any false impression Dr. Kemp may have formed of me, but plainly I have failed. Nevertheless, i still would like us cooperate to make the Misplaced Pages comprehensive, accurate, and neutral (in the ] sense). -- Ed
''Ichthus'' is one of the ways that the WikiProject Christianity’s ] department helps update our members. This newsletter is one of the ways we do try to help people keep up with the project. We would always welcome any input for things to be included in it or additional editors to keep it going. Please let us know if there are changes you would like to see in the format, or if there are any particular things you would like to see included. And if you have anything you would personally like to add, by all means let us know. The talk page of the current issue is probably the best place to post such comments.
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After giving this a lot of thought, I am going to take a radical point of view here and say that any piece that assumes "morality" cannot, by nature, be NPOV. Morality in general is a cultural construct, deeply rooted in Western society, but not necessarily existent among other cultures. That is not to say that other cultures do not have concepts of right and wrong or good and evil--rather, it claims that morality is a third construct. For instance, the Jewish religion forbids its adherents from eating pork. Eating pork can therefore be classified as a "wrong" act or even as a sin. However, no Jew would say that the act is inherently immoral. It simply falls within the confines of certain strictures. In a similar sense, other religions and cultures will use terms such as 'pure and impure,' 'allowed and forbidden,' etc. This does not imply morality.
Following these same lines, I would argue that certain religions might forbid certain sexual activities. That does not imply that the activities are necessarily immoral, just that they are forbidden.
By using terms such as "traditional morality," we are imposing a set of values on others. By talking about the 'morality' of premarital sex or homosexuality, we are doing the same. If we do choose to use the term morality, I vote that we qualify it to show specifically whose morality it is.
Oh, and I don't buy the liberal and conservative distinctions that have been used either. There are NOT two sides to this issue: there is a spectrum of opinions. Are Log Cabin Republicans really liberals? ]


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:Some religions consider certain actions immoral, and therefore they forbid them. When we write about this in the wikipedia, we should say: ''Adherents of religion X consider action Y to be immoral.'' Agreed? --Ed


Not agreed unless you specify exactly which religions. And in that case, do not make sweeping generalizations. You might say that a certain Christian group considers a specific act immoral, but you cannot speak for all of Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Shinto, Hinduism, or any other religion. ]
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:Danny, you make a good suggestion. I will do my best to follow it. Please help me separate the bristles of the broom when I make a sweeping generalization, lest someone vacuum up the whole mess!! --Ed
For the upcoming month, the contest will continue with the ] theme, including Advent and other related topics. Please feel free to see and take part in discussion at the ].
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which gives a summation of the situation in terms that a layman can easily understand. Further, it gives references to back up the science it reports.


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Now, you, Ed, did not do the two minutes work it would have taken you to find that article. Without doing that two minutes of work, you deleted someone else's perfectly valid statement to that effect. Then you demanded that ''other'' people do the work to back up the contention you deleted, and were... less than helpful... when they obliged by checking on it for you. If this had been the only such incident, it might have been simply passed over; however, I'm noticing several such incidents from you ''per day''.
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Furthermore, as JHK rightly points out, you ''only'' demand "scientific sources" from others when those others contradict your view. You are not, I notice, in the habit of copiously documenting your ''own'' work, and freely litter Misplaced Pages with your opinions. You are, in other words, maintaining a double standard, even if you don't realize it. It's not at all surprising that this draws you very negative responses. May I suggest that in the future, if you question the science behind an assertion, ''you yourself check up on the scientific articles available on the topic'' before making any changes whatsoever to another's work? ]
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Ed, the ] article is looking pretty good. I think separating advocacy (of all sorts) was a smart move, and is a good way to proceed with similar topics. -]
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Hi Ed, Just to say (for the avoidance of doubt) that I have no desire to disparage anyone's church - I just thought that 'Moonie' conveys 'Unification Church' to most people, not Lewis Moonie -- redirects from disparaging terms could become a vexed issue -- perhaps there needs to be a Misplaced Pages policy on this? -- ]
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*I forgot: the original ] article is plural, as in, "The Moonies bought the ] in the 1970s." Sometimes I'm not good at searching: I thought content had been removed from ], but that was just the singular form. Maybe this is why editors get paid the big bucks! --Ed
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'''From the Editor'''<br>
Ed, your "solution" to the cognitive science of mathematics problem is simply unacceptable. It ought to be clear from the long introduction of that article that Lakoff & Nunez are part of a quite long tradition in cognitive sciences back to Tversky & Kahneman claiming to put foundations (from human cognitive structures) under math. T&K started it with their "statistical biases in human thinking" in the 1960s.
]Since its formation in 2006, WikiProject Christianity has come a long way. A significant number of new articles have appeared on a wide range of topics, and the quality of some key articles has seen dramatic improvement. Yet, by the very nature of the open, ] development environment in which we operate, as the number of pages in the project has increased at times our attention has been naturally diluted. We should of course strive for quality everywhere, but we should remember that this newsletter is called ].


Starting this month we will start a "Focus on" series, where we will try to "bring Jesus back" and focus on him. For five consecutive issues we will focus on one aspect of the study of Jesus. The goal of this series is to inform our members of what the project contains and highlight those articles which have reached quality and stability.
Also, the L&N thesis has been accepted as a grounding by most noted mathematicians - in the long list of reviews there was literally no objection to their assertions regarding Euler's Identity... none. Zero. This is not a flaky guess by Lakoff, it's a whole field now.


From this month until November we will focus on the historical Jesus, a topic which has been the subject of much discussion on article talk pages, as well as the general media. This is an important topic, and we have a good set of well referenced articles on that now. Then, starting in December we will focus on Christ, and the spiritual and theological elements that the title entails. Following that the review of the life and ministry of Jesus in the New Testament, his miracles, and parables will take place. And each month the "Bookshelf" will mention a book that fits the theme of the month.
Lakoff himself needs a completely separate article due to his involvement in the political sciences, "terrorism debate", etc., etc...


We hope you will enjoy this journey as we present a new aspect of Jesus each month. And given that as the number of project pages increases, the ratio of those watching the pages declines, we hope that more of you will watch some of these central pages that help define this project.
And Nunez ought not to be simply lumped in as a clone of Lakoff, a "follower" - his work is interesting in itself.


I believe your objections to this work are political and we should settle it politically by deciding how to chunk this, rather than with mindless redirects.


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You simply don't want to see what I will do to "falsifiability" and references to "Karl Popper" if the debate goes off in this direction.
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Ed, if by 'truce' you mean that you will cease and desist in your singling out any one user (e.g. me) from personal attacks, direct, indirect or implied, I accept your offer. Since I have never called you names, impugned your morality, or in fact made any accusation against you except that you seem to have a penchant for creating articles in a way that encourages discussion in which you can push your own agenda (my own opinion, but one occasionally supported by others), and since it has been weeks since I have even taken the time to edit any of your contributions, however, I hardly think truce (which implies mutual hostility between parties) is the proper word. Perhaps you just mean "I'm sorry, I was out of line and it won't happen again"? ], Monday, April 15, 2002


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There is an orphan article ] with nothing more than a reference back to you. Since orphaned origins seem to question your paternity, you should clearly have the first opportunity to deal with the article. ], Thursday, April 25, 2002
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To Danny, RK, SR, etc. re: homosexuality...


'''Good articles and DYKs'''<br>
In response to all of you, I have redoubled my efforts to distinguish between:
The article ] received the ] mark last month, as did ]. A number of churches were featured on the main page in the ] section in May, namely ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ], ] and], as well as the hymn ].
#my own strong opinions about morality, and
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I'm still not sure why this should be so difficult for me.
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The formula, A said B about C, which I so frequently recommend to others, comes to mind in this context. Hmm.
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Did Jesus exist? Did he walk the streets of Jerusalem? The ''']''' article answers these questions with a firm affirmative. Historicity does not discuss if Jesus walked on water, but if he walked at all. The issue was the subject of scholarly debate before the end of last century, but the academic debate is almost over now. As the article discusses, virtually all academic opposition to the existence of Jesus has evaporated away now and scholars see it as a concluded issue. The discussion is now just among mostly self-published non-academics.


In 2011 ] tweeted that if anyone finds a professor of history who denies that Jesus lived, of his Bible (Matthew 1 he said). Dickson's Bible is still safe.
Anyway, even if we disagree sharply amongst each other, we all seem to be dedicated to NPOV "writing", when it comes to 'pedia articles. I've adopted a new rhythm of pondering a thorny subject for a week or more, and then writing several paragraphs in one short session. Then, I await comments from my co-contributors. Upon reading them, I either immediately adopt their suggestions or gaze in rapt silence at their edits to my (brilliant?) prose and go away to ponder for another lengthy period.


The article discusses the ancient sources that relate to Jesus and how they fit together to establish that he existed. The evidence for Jesus is not just based on the Christian gospels, but by inter-relating them with non-Christian sources, and the fact that they all "fit together". Moreover, the existence of Jesus is not supported just by Christian scholars and in recent years the detailed knowledge of Jewish scholars and their discoveries (e.g. ]' discovery of the ]) has proven highly beneficial. We encourage you to read and follow the article, for the existence of Jesus is central to the existence of Christianity.
I think this works better, after all the goal is not to win a debate but to contribute articles of lasting value. ]
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Ed: This is an encyclopedia, not an anthology of religious poetry. I don't know whether we're legally in the clear on the Sun Myung Moon poem, or the poem cited as found on a wall at Mother Teresa's, but even if we are, they don't belong here, any more than a sermon written by a noted poety when she was a teen would. (I'm putting this note in your talk and mine, and will wait a little while before deleting these items.) ]


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Ed,
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Just a few years after its publication, ]'s book has become the standard comprehensive text for the discussion of ancient sources that relate to Jesus and his historicity. This detailed yet really readable book has received wide ranging endorsements - ] and ] separately referring to it as the most comprehensive treatment of the subject.


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I just got the impression you might know who I am :) and am wondering how anonymous my pseudonym is. Any thoughts?
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*... that ] wrote the initials "S. D. G.", for ], at the beginning and end of all his church compositions to give God credit for the work, and that ] at times did the same?


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Ed, the term &#8220;Global Warming Hypothesis&#8221; is incorrect. You&#8217;ve stated yourself that global temperature changes are a natural part of life here on Earth &#8211; global warming is part of that. There is absolutely no credible opposition to the finding that surface temperatures have increased significantly over the past 100 years and continue to do so today. The preponderance of evidence (many would say beyond a reasonable doubt evidence) also indicates that most of this warming is caused by human activity. You keep citing NASA satellite data and seem to present this is proof that the above is incorrect (at least that is my impression). Those data attack the validity of the computer models incorrect prediction of upper atmospheric temperature and not the fact that surface temperatures continue to rise (the computer models have been good at predicting surface temperatures BTW). I just read a story about a small town in Alaska that has experienced a 7 degree F temperature increase since the 1970s, I&#8217;ve also read that alpine glaciers around the world are melting at dramatic rates &#8211; there is no controversy over the temperature increase (global warming hits the polar areas disproportionately severely). The only real question is what will happen in the future. If current trends in the increase of average surface temperatures increase (no matter what the cause) then we are in trouble. Please stop playing up the satellite data as if it disproves everything the IPCC has done &#8211; it just questions the accuracy of the how current climate models predict upper-atmospheric temperatures and this is all that should be placed in the article (these models will advance as computer technology does &#8211; ocean-related and cloud-cover effects have only recently been added in the last couple of years). --]
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Ed, thanks for the bug report, but it didn't contain the information I needed to diagnose it, such as what you were searching for and what the actual error was. If you can reproduce the problem (once I get the site back online soon), I would greatly appreciate it. --LDC
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:Thanks, Lee. That should speed up the moving process. :-) --Ed
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Thanks for the welcome, Ed. I've been here awhile, watching you walking that tightrope. I'm walking on it from the left end and I know how hard it is to do. It's interesting, but I don't think we'll ever really collide if we keep doing this. I did leave a question for you in ] that I don't think you saw.
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:Chomsky focuses his most intense criticism on official friends of the United States government while criticizing official enemies like the former Soviet Union and the North Vietnamese Army? only in passing. He explains this by the following principle: it is more important to evaluate actions which you have more possibility of affecting. It explains something I always found bewildering. ]


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:Well JHK, Space Cadet, Roadrunner, Michael Tinkler me and others have been trying to "teach" her the correct way to do things for some time now. Before she just vastly annoyed us by creating banal articles about the third cousins and door maids of famous historical people, now she she seems to be on a POV tirade. I have to credit you with trying to moderate your posts but she doesn't try to even make her posts sound neutral. Maybe it is the language barrier so I will not be as rude to her for now at least. --]
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September 2012

Membership report
The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 344 active members. We would like to welcome our newest members, User:Floating Boat, User:Dewey420, and User:Jpacobb. Thank you all for your interest in this effort. If any members, new or not, wish any assistance, they should feel free to leave a message at the Christianity noticeboard or with me or other individual editors to request it.


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Church of the month


by User:Diliff
The Chapel of Keble College, Oxford


Contest of the month
We currently have a remarkable lack of Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages-Books. Right now, Category:Misplaced Pages books on Christianity contains only 12 books. We certainly could have at least one book on each major grouping within Christianity. One of the challenges for this month, then, is working to put together books on relevant topics. For this month, one contest is for editors to assemble the basic Misplaced Pages books for each of the main topics of the extant related projects. When finished, they should their creation of the books at the main Christianity noticeboard, and at the end of the month the project will award barnstars to those who have made a significant efforts in developing this underdeveloped content.

Also this month, we are going to have have a challenge to create and improve some of our more important missing or low-quality articles. Last month's challenge articles were Karl Beth and Nerses IV the Gracious. Both articles are currently candidates for the DYK section of the main page. This month's challenge articles are the Stub-class article James Hastings and the not yet started Rudolf Sohm, A barnstar will be awarded to any editor who can get these articles up to DYK quality level and ultimately selected for the DYK section of the main page.


Calendar
Thie coming month (mid-September through mid-October) includes feasts dedicated to the honor of the Martyrs of Korea, Saint Matthew, Vincent de Paul, Michaelmas, Saint Jerome, Theresa of Lisieux, the Feast of the Guardian Angels, Francis of Assisi, Our Lady of the Rosary, and Teresa of Avila.

Featured content and GA report
Since the last report, Albertus Soegijapranata, and Reginald Heber were promoted to FA. Grade I listed churches in Greater Manchester was promoted to Featured List, and Jackie Hudson, Joyce Kilmer, Divine command theory, Bosa of York and Argument from morality were promoted to GA level. DYKs featured this past month include Church of Saint Benoit, Istanbul, All Saints Church, Hollingbourne, Neustädter Kirche, Hannover, St Mary's Church, Kirkby Lonsdale, Albert Ndongmo, If We Are the Body, List of places of worship in Tonbridge and Malling, Kulubnarti church, All Saints Church, Ulcombe, Val-Saint-Lambert Abbey, Igny Abbey, Church of the Holy Archangels Michael and Gabriel, Brăila, Places of Worship Registration Act 1855, Collegiate Church of San Gimignano, and St Matthew's Church, Burnley. Our profoundest thanks and congratulations to all those involved!

Wikimedia Foundation report

As some of you may have seen, the Simple English Misplaced Pages has been experiencing some difficulties lately. This particular entity could be of great value to several individuals who are trying to learn English. As some of you who do speak foreign languages know, one of the most easily available, and, in general, useful learning aids for people is a text they know already, which allows them to focus on the specific words of the new language. Various recorded readings and translations of the Bible are among the best examples of this. Any efforts to try to enhance this vital means of informing a large segment of our readership is more than welcome. People interested in helping develop it are encouraged to leave a note regarding their specific articles of interest at the Christianity noticeboard. It would be wonderful if we could report some significant contributions to this sister site next month. And, of course, if we do have something to report, those involved would receive our greatest thanks.

Christian art

The Guardian Angel by Pietro da Cortona.


Spotlight

WikiProject Calvinism is one of our more important subprojects. It is specifically devoted to developing content relating to the Calvinist tradition, and the primary point for development of content relating to the Pilgrims, Presbyterians, Reformed churches, Congregational church, Reformed Baptists, and Low church. We definitely encourage everyone to do what they can to help this project develop the content relating to this extremely important Christian tradition.


I believe
... that human nature is insufficient for salvation, and the grace of God is required to do so. I believe that God has preordained who will and will not achieve salvation. I believe that Jesus's atonement was sufficient for the purposes for which it was done. I believe that God's grace is of such power that it can overcome any person's resistance. I believe that those whom God has chosen for salvation will, by the undeniable power of God, persevere in God's grace. I am a Calvinist.


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WikiProject Christianity October 2012 newsletter


ICHTHUS

September 2012

Membership report
The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 347 active members. We would like to welcome our newest members, User:Dplcrnj, User:Danmuz, User:Zigzig20s, and User:Jasonasosa. Thank you all for your interest in this effort. If any members, new or not, wish any assistance, they should feel free to leave a message at the Christianity noticeboard or with me or other individual editors to request it.


From the Editor
Ichthus is one of the ways that the WikiProject Christianity’s Outreach department helps update our members. This newsletter is one of the ways we do try to help people keep up with the project. We would always welcome any input for things to be included in it or additional editors to keep it going. Please let us know if there are changes you would like to see in the format, or if there are any particular things you would like to see included. And if you have anything you would personally like to add, by all means let us know. The talk page of the current issue is probably the best place to post such comments.

With that, I wish you all happy reading!

P.S. Please click here to add the new Christianity noticeboard to your watchlist to follow the latest discussions relevant to WikiProject Christianity and subprojects.

By John Carter


Church of the month


by User:Taxiarchos228, recently promoted to Featured Image
St. Paul's Church, Basel


Contest of the month
For the upcoming month, the contest will be to develop content related to the Christmas season, including Advent and other related topics. Please feel free to see and take part in the discussion at Misplaced Pages talk:Christianity noticeboard#Contest of the month - Advent/Christmas content.

One of last month's challenge articles, Rudolf Sohm, has been substantially developed by User:Jack1956 and User:StAnselm. Our deepest thanks to both of them!!

Calendar
Thie coming month (mid-October through mid-November) includes All Saints' Day and All Souls' Day and major commemorations dedicated to the honor of the Ignatius of Antioch, Luke the Evangelist, Simon the Canaanite, Saint Jude, the dedication of the Lateran Basilica, the beginning of the Nativity Fast, James of Jerusalem, Reformation Day, and others.


Featured content and GA report
Since the last report, Augustinian theodicy by User:ItsZippy was promoted to FA. Grade I listed churches in Merseyside by User:Peter I. Vardy was promoted to Featured List. The images in the Church of the Month and Christian art sections of this newsletter were promoted to Featured Picture status. John Wheelwright by User:Sarnold17, Christmas Party (The Office) by User:Gen. Quon and If We Are the Body by User:Toa Nidhiki05, were promoted to GA level. DYKs featured this past month include Cathedral of Saint Demetrius, Craiova, by User:Biruitorul, Nerses IV the Gracious by User:John Carter, Church of St Candida and Holy Cross by User:BarretB, St Laurence's Church, Morland by User:Peter I. Vardy, St Mary's Church, Longfleet by User:Bermicourt, Chor von St. Bonifatius by User:Gerda Arendt, St Andrew's Church, Penrith by User:Peter I. Vardy, Holy Rosary Cathedral (Vancouver) by User:Bloom6132, Sacred Heart Cathedral (Kamloops) by User:Bloom6132, St Columba's Church, Warcop by User:Peter I. Vardy, St Oswald's Church, Ravenstonedale by User:Peter I. Vardy, and W. E. Biederwolf by User:John Foxe. Our profoundest thanks and congratulations to all those involved!

Christian art

Portrait of John Henry Newman by Sir John Everett Millais.
This image was promoted this past month to FM by the work of User:Spongie555. Thank you, Spongie!

Spotlight

WikiProject Holidays/Christmas task force is the group whose purpose is to help develop the content related to the Christmas season, including Advent, New Year's, and related holidays. As many of us know, in several parts of the world, including the United States, the Christmas season is not only the time of one of the greatest holidays of the Christian liturgical year, but it is also the "make or break" time for many retailers, whose profitability for the year often depends on their success in this time of the giving of sometimes significantly expensive gifts. In other parts of the world, the winter solstice period and sometimes specifically Christmas itself means something that might surprise many Christians, like the Christmas in Japan, where Christmas is one of the times hotels receive the greatest number of, often unmarried, couples staying there for the night. The solstice season is also significant to several other religions. Many of these days are also legal holidays in several places. In Belarus, for instance, both the Western and Eastern Christmas commemorations are legal holidays. We would certainly welcome the members of this project to donate some of their time and talents in the upcoming months to improving this significant content.


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WikiProject Christianity October 2012 newsletter


ICHTHUS

November 2012

Membership report
The parent Christianity WikiProject currently has 349 active members. We would like to welcome our newest members, User:Hayayika and User:Pikachu Bros.. Thank you all for your interest in this effort. If any members, new or not, wish any assistance, they should feel free to leave a message at the Christianity noticeboard or with me or other individual editors to request it.


From the Editor
Ichthus is one of the ways that the WikiProject Christianity’s Outreach department helps update our members. This newsletter is one of the ways we do try to help people keep up with the project. We would always welcome any input for things to be included in it or additional editors to keep it going. Please let us know if there are changes you would like to see in the format, or if there are any particular things you would like to see included. And if you have anything you would personally like to add, by all means let us know. The talk page of the current issue is probably the best place to post such comments.

With that, I wish you all happy reading!

P.S. Please click here to add the new Christianity noticeboard to your watchlist to follow the latest discussions relevant to WikiProject Christianity and subprojects.

By John Carter


Church of the month


Saint-Augustin, Paris by User:Saffron Blaze

Recently promoted to Featured Image. Great work!


Contest of the month
For the upcoming month, the contest will continue with the Christmas theme, including Advent and other related topics. Please feel free to see and take part in discussion at the Christianity noticeboard.


Calendar
This coming month (mid-November through mid-December) includes the Advent season. Other major feasts are those of Margaret of Scotland, Matthew the Evangelist, Hilda of Whitby, Elizabeth of Hungary, Edmund the Martyr, the Presentation of Mary, Saint Cecilia, Clement of Rome, Catherine of Alexandria, Andrew the Apostle, Francis Xavier, Saint Barbara, John Damascene, Nicholas of Myra, Saint Ambrose of Milan, Feast of the Immaculate Conception, Our Lady of Guadalupe, Lucy of Syracuse, and others.


Featured content and GA report
Since the last report, Crucifixion and Last Judgement diptych by, among others, User:Truthkeeper88, User:Ceoil, and User:Kafka Liz and Mitt Romney by User:Wasted Time R were promoted to FA. List of 2000s Christian Songs number ones by User:Toa Nidhiki05 was promoted to Featured List. The two images in the Church of the Month and Christian art sections of this newsletter were promoted to Featured Picture status, as were these two images of Michelangelo's Pieta and of Giovanni Bellini's Saint Francis in the Desert . Derek Webb by User: Pepsi2786 and others, and Scipione Piattoli by User:Piotrus were promoted to GA level. DYKs featured this past month include Archdiocese of Râmnic, by User:Biruitorul, Diocese of Caransebeş by User:Biruitorul, Wythburn Church by User:Peter I. Vardy, St. Gumbertus, Ansbach by User:Gerda Arendt, User:Dr. Blofeld, and User:Nvvchar collectively, St. Johannis, Ansbach by User:Gerda Arendt, User:Dr. Blofeld, and User:Nvvchar collectively, Nikollë Bojaxhiu by User:ZjarriRrethues, All Saints Church, Lydd by User:Dr. Blofeld, User:Rosiestep, User:Gilderien, and User:Ipigott collectively, St Mary's Church, Acton Burnell by User:Peter I. Vardy, St Eata's Church, Atcham by User:Peter I. Vardy, Nativity of St. John the Baptist Church, Piatra Neamț by User:Biruitorul, Anna Schäffer by User:Shii, List of Archbishops of Vancouver by User: Bloom6132, James Francis Carney by User:Bloom6132, St Luke's Church, Chelsea by User:PKM and User:Johnbod, Gregory Orologas by User:Alexikoua, Ambrosios Pleianthidis by User:Alexikoua, and St Giles' Church, Barrow, by User:Peter I. Vardy. Our profoundest thanks and congratulations to all those involved!

Christian art

Three scenes of the legend of the Miraculous Sacrament, in which communion wafers were reported to bleed after being stabbed, in the St. Michael and St. Gudula Cathedral, Brussels by Jean-Baptiste Capronnier.
This image was promoted this past month to FM by the work of User:Alvesgaspar. Thank you, Alvesgaspar!

Spotlight

The core topics work group is the group whose specific purpose is to help identify and develop those articles which are of greatest importance to an overall understanding of the broad subject of Christianity, based on what is included in the core topics list. These articles include some of specific churches and individuals, history, philosophical and theological matters, and more. We have had some recent discussion regarding which articles should be included in this list, and it probably makes sense to revisit the selections, and try to figure out how best to work to make them high quality articles. Discussion is beginning at WT:X regarding these matters, and all input is welcome.


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WikiProject Christianity Newsletter (June 2013)


ICHTHUS

June 2013

From the Editor

Since its formation in 2006, WikiProject Christianity has come a long way. A significant number of new articles have appeared on a wide range of topics, and the quality of some key articles has seen dramatic improvement. Yet, by the very nature of the open, crowd-sourced development environment in which we operate, as the number of pages in the project has increased at times our attention has been naturally diluted. We should of course strive for quality everywhere, but we should remember that this newsletter is called Ichthus.

Starting this month we will start a "Focus on" series, where we will try to "bring Jesus back" and focus on him. For five consecutive issues we will focus on one aspect of the study of Jesus. The goal of this series is to inform our members of what the project contains and highlight those articles which have reached quality and stability.

From this month until November we will focus on the historical Jesus, a topic which has been the subject of much discussion on article talk pages, as well as the general media. This is an important topic, and we have a good set of well referenced articles on that now. Then, starting in December we will focus on Christ, and the spiritual and theological elements that the title entails. Following that the review of the life and ministry of Jesus in the New Testament, his miracles, and parables will take place. And each month the "Bookshelf" will mention a book that fits the theme of the month.

We hope you will enjoy this journey as we present a new aspect of Jesus each month. And given that as the number of project pages increases, the ratio of those watching the pages declines, we hope that more of you will watch some of these central pages that help define this project.


Church of the month

The current building of All Saints' Church, Winthorpe in Nottinghamshire, England which was completed in 1888, is at least the third version of the church, which dates back to at least the early 13th century.


Good articles and DYKs
The article Jesus received the good article mark last month, as did Cleeve Abbey. A number of churches were featured on the main page in the DYK section in May, namely St. Lamberti, Hildesheim, Karja church, Braaby Church, St Patrick's Liverpool, Vlah Church, Freerslev Church, Cathedral of Our Lady of the Assumption, Mata-Utu, St. Michael's Cathedral (Sitka, Alaska), St. Lamberti, Hildesheim, Karja church, Braaby Church, St. Pierre Cathedral, Saint-Pierre, Mont Saint Michel Abbey, St Patrick's Church, Liverpool, Vlah Church, St Catherine of Siena Church, Cocking, Catedral Nuestra Señora de La Asunción, Roholte Church, Notre Dame Cathedral, Taiohae, Leicester Abbey, Caracas Cathedral, Caldey Abbey, King's Mead Priory, Cathedral of the Immaculate Conception (Hong Kong) andAll Saints' Church, Winthorpe, as well as the hymn What Wondrous Love Is This.

Focus on...

THE
HISTORICAL JESUS

Did Jesus exist? Did he walk the streets of Jerusalem? The Historicity of Jesus article answers these questions with a firm affirmative. Historicity does not discuss if Jesus walked on water, but if he walked at all. The issue was the subject of scholarly debate before the end of last century, but the academic debate is almost over now. As the article discusses, virtually all academic opposition to the existence of Jesus has evaporated away now and scholars see it as a concluded issue. The discussion is now just among mostly self-published non-academics.

In 2011 John Dickson tweeted that if anyone finds a professor of history who denies that Jesus lived,he would eat a page of his Bible (Matthew 1 he said). Dickson's Bible is still safe.

The article discusses the ancient sources that relate to Jesus and how they fit together to establish that he existed. The evidence for Jesus is not just based on the Christian gospels, but by inter-relating them with non-Christian sources, and the fact that they all "fit together". Moreover, the existence of Jesus is not supported just by Christian scholars and in recent years the detailed knowledge of Jewish scholars and their discoveries (e.g. Shlomo Pines' discovery of the Syriac Josephus) has proven highly beneficial. We encourage you to read and follow the article, for the existence of Jesus is central to the existence of Christianity.

From the bookshelf

Jesus Outside the New Testament: An Introduction to the Ancient Evidence by Robert Van Voorst, 2000 ISBN 0-8028-4368-9

Just a few years after its publication, Van Voorst's book has become the standard comprehensive text for the discussion of ancient sources that relate to Jesus and his historicity. This detailed yet really readable book has received wide ranging endorsements - Blomberg and Harris separately referring to it as the most comprehensive treatment of the subject.

Did you know...

A Handel manuscript
  • ... that Johann Sebastian Bach wrote the initials "S. D. G.", for Soli Deo Gloria, at the beginning and end of all his church compositions to give God credit for the work, and that Handel at times did the same?

Calendar
The coming month includes days dedicated to the honor of Beheading of John the Baptist, Saints Peter and Paul, the Nativity of John the Baptist, and Saint Barnabas.

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NYC Wiki-Picnic: Saturday June 22

Great American Wiknic NYC at Prospect Park
You are invited to the Great American Wiknic NYC in Brooklyn's green and lovely Prospect Park, on this Saturday June 22! We would love to see you there, so sign up and bring something fun for the potluck :) -- User:Pharos (talk)

Misplaced Pages Takes Brooklyn! Saturday September 7

Brookln Public Library
 Please join Misplaced Pages Takes Brooklyn scavenger hunt on September 7, 2013!
Everyone gather at the Brooklyn Public Library to further Misplaced Pages's coverage of—
photos and articles related to Brooklyn, its neighborhoods and the local landmarks.
--EdwardsBot (talk)

Wikimedia NYC Meetup- "Queens Open History Edit-a-Thon" at Queens Library! Friday December 6

Queens Library
 Please join Queens Open History Edit-a-Thon on December 6, 2013!
Everyone gather at Queens Library to further Misplaced Pages's local outreach
for borough articles on the history and the communities.
Drop-ins welcome 10am-7pm!--Pharos (talk) ~~~~~

New England Misplaced Pages Day @ MIT: Saturday Jan 18

NE Meetup #4: January 18 at MIT Building 5

Dear Fellow Wikimedian,

You have been invited to the New England Wikimedians 2014 kick-off party and Misplaced Pages Day Celebration at Building Five on the Massachusetts Institute of Technology campus on Saturday, January 18th, from 3-5 PM. Afterwards, we will be holding an informal dinner at a local restaurant. If you are curious to join us, please do so, as we are always looking for people to come and give their opinion! Finally, be sure to RSVP here if you're interested.

I hope to see you there! Kevin Rutherford (talk)

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Saturday: NYC Art And Feminism Misplaced Pages Editathon

Jefferson Market Public Library
 Please join Misplaced Pages "Art and Feminism Editathon" @ Eyebeam on Saturday February 1, 2014,
an event aimed at collaboratively expanding Misplaced Pages articles covering Art and Feminism, and the biographies of women artists!

There are also regional events that day in Brooklyn, Westchester County, and the Hudson Valley.
--Pharos (talk)

Upcoming Saturday events - March 1: Harlem History Editathon and March 8: NYU Law Editathon

Upcoming Saturday events - March 1: Harlem History Editathon and March 8: NYU Law Editathon

You are invited to join upcoming Misplaced Pages "Editathons", where both experienced and new Misplaced Pages editors will collaboratively improve articles on a selected theme, on the following two Saturdays in March:

I hope to see you there! Pharos (talk)

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You're invited: Women's History Edit-a-thons in Massachusetts this March

Women's History Edit-a-thons in Massachusetts this March - You are invited!
New England Wikimedians is excited to announce a series of Misplaced Pages edit-a-thons that will be taking place at colleges and universities throughout Massachusetts as part of Wikiwomen's History Month from March 1 - March 31. We encourage you to join in an edit-a-thon near you, or to participate remotely if you are unable to attend in person (for the full list of articles, click here). Events are currently planned for the cities/towns of Boston, Northampton, South Hadley, and Cambridge. Further information on dates and locations can be found on our user group page.
Questions? Contact Girona7 (talk)

You're invited!

NE Meetup #5: April 19th at Clover Food Lab in Kendall Square

Dear Fellow Wikimedian,

New England Wikimedians would like to invite you to the April 2014 meeting, which will be a small-scale meetup of all interested Wikimedians from the New England area. We will socialize, review regional events from the beginning of the year, look ahead to regional events of 2014, and discuss other things of interest to the group. Be sure to RSVP here if you're interested.

Also, if you haven't done so already, please consider signing up for our mailing list and connect with us on Facebook and Twitter.

We hope to see you there!

Kevin Rutherford (talk) and Maia Weinstock (talk)

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Edit-a-thon invite

You're invited to the Peabody Essex Museum Edit-a-thon Spring 2014

On May 3rd, the Peabody Essex Museum in Salem, Massachusetts will be hosting a Native American and Chinese Art edit-a-thon from 9:00-5:00 pm. You are more than welcome to attend, as there will be free food and drink, and an outing afterwards. If you are interested, please sign up here, as we would love to see you there!

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Adrianne Wadewitz Memorial edit-a-thons

Adrianne Wadewitz edit-a-thons in Southern New England

As you may have already heard, the Misplaced Pages community lost an invaluable member of the community last month. Adrianne Wadewitz was a feminist scholar of 18th-Century British literature, and a prolific editor of the site. As part of a worldwide series of tributes, New England Wikimedians, in conjunction with local institutions of higher learning, have created three edit-a-thons that will be occurring in May and June. The events are as follows:

We hope that you will be able to join us, whether you are an experienced editor or are using Misplaced Pages for the first time.

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New England Wikimedians summer events!

Upcoming events hosted by New England Wikimedians!

After many months of doubt, nature has finally warmed up and summer is almost here! The New England Wikimedians user group have planned some upcoming events. This includes some unique and interesting events to those who are interested:

Although we also aren't hosting this year's Wikimania, we would like to let you know that Wikimania this year will be occurring in London in August:

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New England Wikimedians summer events!

Upcoming events hosted by New England Wikimedians!

After many months of doubt, nature has finally warmed up and summer is almost here! The New England Wikimedians user group have planned some upcoming events. This includes some unique and interesting events to those who are interested:

Although we also aren't hosting this year's Wikimania, we would like to let you know that Wikimania this year will be occurring in London in August:

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Saturday June 21: Wiki Loves Pride

Upcoming Saturday event - June 21: Wiki Loves Pride NYC

You are invited to join us at Jefferson Market Library for "Wiki Loves Pride", hosted by New York Public Library, Metropolitan New York Library Council, Wikimedia LGBT and Wikimedia New York City, where both experienced and new Misplaced Pages editors will collaboratively improve articles on this theme:

11am–4pm at Jefferson Market Library.

We hope to see you there! Pharos (talk)

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Wiki Loves Pride!

You are invited to participate in Wiki Loves Pride!

  • What? Wiki Loves Pride, a campaign to document and photograph LGBT culture and history, including pride events
  • When? June 2015
  • How can you help?
    1.) Create or improve LGBT-related articles and showcase the results of your work here
    2.) Upload photographs or other media related to LGBT culture and history, including pride events, and add images to relevant Misplaced Pages articles; feel free to create a subpage with a gallery of your images (see examples from last year)
    3.) Contribute to an LGBT-related task force at another Wikimedia project (Wikidata, Wikimedia Commons, Wikivoyage, etc.)

Or, view or update the current list of Tasks. This campaign is supported by the Wikimedia LGBT+ User Group, an officially recognized affiliate of the Wikimedia Foundation. Visit the group's page at Meta-Wiki for more information, or follow Wikimedia LGBT+ on Facebook. Remember, Wiki Loves Pride is about creating and improving LGBT-related content at Wikimedia projects, and content should have a neutral point of view. One does not need to identify as LGBT or any other gender or sexual minority to participate. This campaign is about adding accurate, reliable information to Misplaced Pages, plain and simple, and all are welcome!

If you have any questions, please leave a message on the campaign's main talk page.


Thanks, and happy editing!

User:Another Believer and User:OR drohowa

Saturday April 30: Contemporary Art of the Middle East and North Africa @ Guggenheim

Saturday April 30, 1-6pm: Contemporary Art of the Middle East and North Africa @ Guggenheim
File:Monir Portrait-exh ph021.jpg

On Saturday April 30, 2016, in conjunction with a global campaign, the Guggenheim will host its fourth Misplaced Pages edit-a-thon — or, #guggathon — to enhance Misplaced Pages's coverage of modern and contemporary artists from the Middle East and North Africa (MENA) region, and to counter geocultural systemic bias on Misplaced Pages.

The Guggenheim aims to further the goals of the Guggenheim UBS MAP Global Art Initiative, and build on the model of campaigns like the Misplaced Pages Edit-a-thon at the Guggenheim: Women in Architecture, Misplaced Pages Asian Month, and Art+Feminism.

New and experienced editors are welcome. The event will include a training session for participants who are new to Misplaced Pages and Misplaced Pages specialists will be on hand to provide basic instruction and editing support.

Can’t join us in New York? Visit our global MENA Artists Month partnership page to coordinate international and online events as well.

Time: Presentation: 1:00 pm - 2:30 pm, Edit-a-thon: 2:30pm - 6:00pm
Location: Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum, 1071 Fifth Avenue (88th Street), New York City, New York 10128
Guests should enter using the 88th Street entrance via the ramp at 88th Street and Fifth Avenue

Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) ~~~~~

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ArbCom Elections 2016: Voting now open!

Hello, Ed Poor. Voting in the 2016 Arbitration Committee elections is open from Monday, 00:00, 21 November through Sunday, 23:59, 4 December to all unblocked users who have registered an account before Wednesday, 00:00, 28 October 2016 and have made at least 150 mainspace edits before Sunday, 00:00, 1 November 2016.

The Arbitration Committee is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the Misplaced Pages arbitration process. It has the authority to impose binding solutions to disputes between editors, primarily for serious conduct disputes the community has been unable to resolve. This includes the authority to impose site bans, topic bans, editing restrictions, and other measures needed to maintain our editing environment. The arbitration policy describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

If you wish to participate in the 2016 election, please review the candidates' statements and submit your choices on the voting page.

November 15: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC @ NYU ITP

Wednesday November 15, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC @ NYU ITP

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at NYU ITP Tisch School of the Arts (4th floor) at 721 Broadway in Manhattan.

We will include a look at the organization and planning for our chapter, and expanding volunteer roles for both regular Misplaced Pages editors and new participants.

We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming edit-a-thons, museum and library projects, education initiatives, and other outreach activities.

We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from all educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at NYU ITP Tisch School of the Arts (4th floor), 721 Broadway
(note that we are not at Babycastles this month)

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) ~~~~~

P.S. You are also invited to Misplaced Pages Asian Month Edit-a-thon @ Metropolitan Museum of Art on Sunday November 19!

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March 21: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

Wednesday March 21, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Babycastles gallery by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan.

We will include a look at the organization and planning for our chapter, and expanding volunteer roles for both regular Misplaced Pages editors and new participants.

We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming edit-a-thons, museum and library projects, education initiatives, and other outreach activities.

We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from all educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

After the main meeting, pizza/chicken/vegetables and refreshments and video games in the gallery!

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles gallery, 145 West 14th Street
(note the new address, a couple of doors down from the former Babycastles location)

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Megs (talk)

P.S. You are also invited to Art + Feminism Events in the New York Metropolitan Area continuing this month!

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CANCELLED: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

CANCELLED: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

Due to the winter storm warning, the WikiWednesday Salon & Skillshare scheduled for March 21st has been cancelled. Please consider attending one of the many edit-a-thons scheduled for this week. We look forward to editing with you soon!

--Megs (talk)

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WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

Wednesday April 25th, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly WikiWednesday evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Babycastles gallery. We welcome the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from all educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects.

Is there a project you'd like to share? A question you'd like answered? A Wiki* skill you'd like to learn? Let us know by adding it to the agenda! After the main meeting, pizza and video games in the gallery.

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles gallery, 145 West 14th Street
(note the new address, a couple of doors down from the former Babycastles location)

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our agenda, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Megs (talk)

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Sept 25: WikiWednesday Salon NYC

September 25, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon NYC

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our monthly "WikiWednesday" evening salon (7-9pm) and knowledge-sharing workshop at Metropolitan New York Library Council in Midtown Manhattan. Is there a project you'd like to share? A question you'd like answered? A Wiki* skill you'd like to learn? Let us know by adding it to the agenda.

7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Metropolitan New York Library Council (8th floor) at 599 11th Avenue, Manhattan
(note this month we will be meeting in Midtown Manhattan, not at Babycastles)

We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Wikimedia New York City Team ~~~~~

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