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== Wendy Carlos Reversion ==
Why the revert on Freemasonry? Canon law isn't civil law, there aren't interpretations differing from what Rome says.


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Gah, forgot to sign it. --] 03:15, 16 Jan 2005 (UTC)
You reverted my research on Wendy Carlos based on ancestry.com and archives.com, however these websites are based on information from official US documents, so what's the issue? ] (]) 21:44, 20 October 2024 (UTC)


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Canon law doesn't mention Freemasonry. I have seen letters from dioceses post-dating the canon change explicitly allowing Catholics to join lodges. (In case it's not obvious from context, I'm both Catholic and a Freemason, and see no conflict between the two.) --] 21:16, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC)


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However, as I linked, Cardinal Ratzinger explains that the lack of mentioning of Freemasonry is irrelevant, it is still forbidden to join. As head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (formerly known as the Office of the Holy Inquisition), what he says goes. That some dioceses are ignorant or have refused to listen to Rome isn't particularly unusual. Much of the American Church is in a de facto schism with Rome. --] 03:09, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)


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Hi, I was wondering if you go into a little more detail on why you reverted my edits on changing to outgoing rather than incumbent. The reason why I put those in is because a new president and vice president has just been elected so since they are leaving office soon, putting them as a lame duck seems to make the most sense. I'd be willing to hear your arguments on keeping the incumbent on both the president and VP pages. I'm not sure if there was a time that we used the term outgoing for politicians leaving office, but it just doesn't make sense to keep incumbent there. ] (]) 16:10, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
By and large this works anyway, and at many topics, the ''inside view editors'' are careful to abstract from their personal feelings. Of course there are also spectacular failures, especially where articles have become a battleground between apostats and apologetics, seee ] and other "Guru"-articles.


:But they are the incumbents. We don't need any further editorializing. Leave that to the headline writers. --] 16:12, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
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You may well be right, and I may have been too hasty in raising the allegation (although I tried to avoid the term 'sockpuppet' in reference to Victrix, since using multiple accounts is perfectly permissable, but would need clarification here, imo). On the other hand, I did consider the issue for over 3 days before deciding on how to raise it. BTW, did you mean to leave your comment on the \Workshop page unsigned? Also, I'd like to point out that of the main earlier contributions, 2 (] and <nowiki>]</nowiki> were previously edited by our friend ], and many of the others cluster around ], an article hotly contested by ]. Perhaps a coincidence, I know. However, consider also how neatly the times and dates of Victrix's edits dovetail with MSJapan's, particularly in light of a couple of edits during 15-17 Oct, which are ''very'' convenient from MSJapan's POV... Well, I have boldly stated my opinion, we'll see what happens. :)
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I live in Saguache County, Colorado, which, if you are thoroughly familiar with, is Mason ridden. The newspaper in Saguache is the "Saguache Crescent". There is a long history of rather mediocre Anglo men thinking that as they have participated in rituals, ought to run things. The situation is not uniformly dismal, but pathetic accurately describes the spectacle of a person without moral compass imagining that he is wise. ] 22:45, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
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Hi SarekOfVulcan You reverted my research on Wendy Carlos based on ancestry.com and archives.com, however these websites are based on information from official US documents, so what's the issue? Egrabczewski (talk) 21:44, 20 October 2024 (UTC)

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Hi, I was wondering if you go into a little more detail on why you reverted my edits on changing to outgoing rather than incumbent. The reason why I put those in is because a new president and vice president has just been elected so since they are leaving office soon, putting them as a lame duck seems to make the most sense. I'd be willing to hear your arguments on keeping the incumbent on both the president and VP pages. I'm not sure if there was a time that we used the term outgoing for politicians leaving office, but it just doesn't make sense to keep incumbent there. Interstellarity (talk) 16:10, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

But they are the incumbents. We don't need any further editorializing. Leave that to the headline writers. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 16:12, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

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