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Happy editing! HiLo48 (talk) 01:39, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

James Brudenell, 7th Earl of Cardigan

I deleted your addition about Propylene, but changed my mind about John Williams Reynolds—the redlink may be useful in the future. ATB.--AntientNestor (talk) 15:54, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

And so it was. Thanks for the prompt!--AntientNestor (talk) 14:27, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for a great article! Have you considered pitching it to Template talk:Did you know? 5.178.188.143 (talk) 20:22, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

Yes, I did. One was along the along the lines of: DYK … JWR got a letter of admonition from the CinC , but later was made deputy Adjutant General? ALT1 was: discovered Propylene, but later made deputy…etc. I didn't take them forward because I didn't think they were "hooky" enough.--AntientNestor (talk) 21:22, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

What about something along the lines of "a conflict with superior led a British cavalry officer to take a break in his military career and discover propylene"? The combination of notability of the scandal and notability of the discovery is what makes his biography very unusual, and I personally was very surprized to find out that the discoverer was actually a cavalry officer (almost all chemists at that time, as opposed to 18th c., didn't have any other occupations but science and education) 5.178.188.143 (talk) 22:07, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

I like that one a lot. If I do submit mine (full texts in my sandbox), and you add yours as ALT2, I'd support it!--AntientNestor (talk) 22:19, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

I added two variants, a shorter and a longer, to your sandbox. I release them and my comments here under CC-0, so feel free to remix and reuse 5.178.188.143 (talk) 11:30, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks. I will give this a shot, now that I have better hooks (i.e., yours). At the moment I'm struggling with my required quid pro quo reviews of other people's DYK, but I'll get ours (yours) in within the time limit.--AntientNestor (talk) 11:44, 10 February 2024 (UTC)

@5.178.188.143: Thanks. I cut these back to just two, with the better one (yours) first, and submitted them. Thanks again.--AntientNestor (talk) 12:04, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Why did you remove the wikilink to Lord Cardigan? 5.178.188.143 (talk) 12:41, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

WP:DYK200 cautions against WP:SEAOFBLUE, but on second thoughts the hook has more weight with the link. You're right, and I'll put it back.--AntientNestor (talk) 12:51, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Third thoughts: I think (but I'm not sure) the restriction on hook length counts the characters so ] would take us over the limit. Why not try an ALT2 and see if it works?--AntientNestor (talk) 13:03, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

If you read the rules carefully, they count prose characters, and prose characters don't include wikilinks 5.178.188.143 (talk) 22:37, 12 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification. AntientNestor (talk) 06:54, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

BTW, it would have to be "Lord Cardigan", not "a superior", because of WP:EASTER.--AntientNestor (talk) 07:07, 13 February 2024 (UTC)

User:HouseOfChange has approved our nomination of John Williams Reynolds for DYK. It's "good to go".--AntientNestor (talk) 11:10, 19 February 2024 (UTC)

December 2023

Welcome to Misplaced Pages. We appreciate your contributions, but in one of your recent edits to History of perfume, it appears that you have added original research, which is against Misplaced Pages's policies. Original research refers to material—such as facts, allegations, ideas, and personal experiences—for which no reliable, published sources exist; it also encompasses combining published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. You can have a look at the tutorial on citing sources. Thank you. Materialscientist (talk) 10:52, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

May this source suffice? 5.178.188.143 (talk) 11:27, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

DYK for John Williams Reynolds

On 2 March 2024, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article John Williams Reynolds, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that a well-publicized conflict with a superior officer led British cavalry officer John Williams Reynolds to take a break from his military career, study chemistry and discover propylene? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/ John Williams Reynolds. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, John Williams Reynolds), and the hook may be added to the statistics page after its run on the Main Page has completed. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

♠PMC♠ (talk) 00:03, 2 March 2024 (UTC)

September 2024

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October 2024

Please do not add or change content, as you did at Search for extraterrestrial intelligence, without citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Misplaced Pages:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. In any case, this information is already in the text. Thank you. David J Johnson (talk) 20:40, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

• After you reversion there is no information about Aresibo collapse in the text, and it is important. Will you accept https://www.seti.org/goodbye-arecibo as a source? 5.178.188.143 (talk) 09:21, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

@David J Johnson: ?

OK on Vitamin C. David notMD (talk) 17:38, 30 October 2024 (UTC)

Theses are not good sources

Its a Misplaced Pages thing. We avoid citing theses. I guess because they are not rigorously reviewed. Anyway, if you want to support a claim, cite a review or a textbook. WP:SECONDARY--Smokefoot (talk) 16:01, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

The thesis is from a good university (University College London) and the rule you linked says nothing against PhD theses. The existence of Template:Cite thesis itself disproves that theses are bad sources per se. Moreover, I cited a historical overview section which is itself a secondary source. 5.178.188.143 (talk) 16:11, 5 November 2024 (UTC)

Changing citation styles without discussion

Please have a look at WP:CITEVAR. Citation styles should not be changed without discussion - that includes moving citations to Wikidata, which is itself controversial. MrOllie (talk) 13:18, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

Thank you, I didn't know it. I can assure you that I manually checked every Wikidata page that it contains correct data and working URLs before adding them (in fact, I fixed two of the entries). Why is it controversial? 5.178.188.143 (talk) 13:23, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

Because items at Wikidata can get altered or vandalized and that will not show up on Misplaced Pages history logs or watchlists. MrOllie (talk) 14:29, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

That's actually a weak argument, because those edits will show up in the Wikidata history logs. Once someone notices that the citations was vandalized, it's very easy to go to Wikidata and revert it there.

Also, it's a very bad idea to go to articles I write and revert my constructive edits for the only reason that you don't like the style of the citations I added or that I link some of them to Wikidata.

Moreover, I would also note that while reverting my edits in the statistics articles you also put back the typos I fixed, removed the links I added (both external and wikilinks) and rolled back some minor clarifications in the wording. Sure you may consider the latter not necessary, but could you at least check the former two and carry them over. 5.178.188.143 (talk) 14:36, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

Kindly respect Misplaced Pages's policies in this matter, including WP:OWN. MrOllie (talk) 15:25, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

December 2024

5.178.188.143 (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

I have read the rules on edit warring before making my last edit today, I did not break the 3RR rule and I attempted to communicate with MrOllie who kept vandalizing the page I have been expanding, both here and on his talk page. He preferred to ignore any reasonable arguments and just keep reverting. Why are you blocking me and not him, and for two whole weeks despite the lack of any prior "edit wars" not few days how the rules advise? 5.178.188.143 (talk) 15:53, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

Decline reason:

You are blocked for edit warring, not specifically for violating 3RR. One can edit war without violating 3RR You edit warred and threatened to continue doing so, so the block is necessary to stop your disruption. As for others, see WP:NOTTHEM. Only you can control your actions. 331dot (talk) 16:10, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

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• I have never threatened to "continue edit warring". The "I will continue updating the page" in the edit summary referred to the edit process of the article I was expanding despite his disruptive actions (check my latest edit, I replaced one of the sources with two other ones). I was planning to add more sources and more information, that's what I wrote (thought that was obvious from the context). 5.178.188.143 (talk) 18:35, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

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• Support unblock @MrOllie:, this is unimpressive editing, BITEing of someone who's clearly a GF editor working to expand what's a gap in the article and a two week first block for something so trivial is way out of line.

They were not even changing the cite format of any existing citations. Of which there was only one to start with, not the seven that the IP was adding. If the new format for any new citations offends you so much, then it would have been much better editing on your part (and as a long-term editor, you're expected to be better than this) to have just changed that one offending citation, or whatever. Simple bulk reversion is not a good response, especially not to an article that was so weak beforehand and improved so much by the addition.

Then the IP was foolish enough to use the phrase I will keep updating the article. Which immediately turns it into a matter of lèse-majesté instead. To be followed by long blocks, no doubt to be followed by IP-space blocking and an overall lack of improvement to the article. Editors involved in this should think what their part in the project is really supposed to be here for. Andy Dingley (talk) 20:04, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

Thank you. BTW, if MrOllie was blocked for the same term as me, I wouldn't have protested: that at least would be more or less fair. Do you think you could raise this topic on admin's noticeboard? 5.178.188.143 (talk) 20:15, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

I am not an admin. To raise this further would merely get both of us blocked. Andy Dingley (talk) 20:47, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

That sounds very unfortunate if accurate. Do you think there's any reason for attempting another unblock request? I'm considering just leaving this project for good 5.178.188.143 (talk) 20:59, 27 December 2024 (UTC)