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(I have relocated these very precious kindnesses from others to the top of my talkpage, so they will never be lost or forgotten. I am very grateful for each one.)
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] I am totally lost and overwhelmed right now. I understand what you have said about that single comment. This article contains several unsupported statements and most of it is one sided so I was attempting to add balance and blundering about. I think instead of editing this one I will write one instead. It will be good experience. My educational background is in this area, I spent the last six months researching this very topic, and I have information on every category you list that is not included in this article. I don't know what I am doing on Misplaced Pages yet, but I know this subject, and I know how to write! I hope! We'll see! Thank you for your help! ] (]) 22:11, 15 May 2017 (UTC)Jenhawk777
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Thank you so much for your help, I am definitely still figuring this out. I rented an article for two days and put a bunch of it directly into the draft because I didn't feel like I had time to go through and decide what I would use and what I wouldn't, so I copied it with the intent of editing it afterwards. Is it okay if I restore what you took out with that end in mind? I will be careful. There is another article here already on this subject that has been marked for bias. I attempted to edit it first, but all my edits got reverted. He wrote me to explain why he reverted one paragraph--inadequate referencing--and I agreed on that one paragraph, but he reverted all of them without comment on the rest. I figure he has a point of view he is pushing and is not going to accept anything else so I am trying to write something more neutral and will then leave it to you guys to decide what to do with them both. I didn't know anyone was monitoring my draft! It is nowhere approaching done! ] (]) 16:01, 24 May 2017 (UTC)Jenhawk777] (]) 16:01, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
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Was thinking of you and your work earlier, Jen. Thanks for everything and I hope you have a good day! {{Smiley}} I certainly will be... today is a dim light at the end of this year-long tunnel. Warmly, ] (]) 13:38, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
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Hi - I'm sorry to say but this is not at all likely to be accepted. We of course already have an article on the subject - read ]. The larger problem is that it doesn't meet our policies and guidelines. It might do as an essay but not as an article. It fails ] and ] for a start. You might want to read this essay also.]
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You might want to get some feedback on this by asking at the ] or ], don't just take my word for it. ] ] 13:24, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
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:Apologies, I forgot to respond. I still don't think it will be acceptable as it's a duplicate article, but I urge you again to ask at the Teahouse. ] ] 09:32, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
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:This has touched me so deeply I almost cried. Thank you so, so very much. ] (]) 21:29, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
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Not the first you receive, but the first I ever hand out. ] (]) 12:10, 24 June 2022 (UTC)
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== Referencing of Conversion to Christianity ==
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: ''']''' Bless you! Thank you! I so deeply appreciate you and all your work. You are still the one I will reach out to when I have a problem, but you have taught me a lot, and this article was just too much to ask someone else to do for me. I would have enjoyed banging my head against a wall more, but hey, I followed your example and got it done. I put it up for peer review and others suggested adding back a theology section which I am beginning work on today. Thank you again. You are a great blessing. ] (]) 15:22, 19 September 2023 (UTC)


Hi Jenhawk777 - ] is something it looks like you have put a lot of work into. It appears to be a collection of thoughts about various things that you would like to incorporate into ]; it is not actually a draft article. If this is true, it really should be in your userspace; drafts are for actually drafts. Do you know how to move a page? If not, I can move it for you.


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::Thank you for responding! I appreciate any and all help! I don't understand the comment that this appears to be a collection of my thoughts though. None of this is original material. It is all referenced. I take it you are the original author of Christianity and Violence? You don't seem to like any of my edits, but if you could help me understand why or what it is you don't like, perhaps we could fix this together. The article does not seem balanced or neutral to me, and clearly to others who tagged it that way long before I came along, so my goal is not to erase anything you have said but to balance it a little bit more. You are welcome to make changes to what I have added, but please explain them if you would. Thank you again! I will keep trying to honor what you have written while accomplishing the goal--if you will not give up on me! Thank you! ] (]) 21:01, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
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For a surprise, a ] is on the Main page today, where it was last year for the 300th anniversary, and they were too lazy to find something new ;) - Look at my story, and listen to the 3 whole-tone steps and the dialogues of Fear and Hope. - An ] open to be signed (more info just below and on the talk), - I haven't checked if you did, please ignore then. --] (]) 20:32, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
:::You didn't reply to the main point of my comment above - namely your "draft" really belongs in Userspace. (There are different "spaces" in Misplaced Pages. Articles and their talk pages are in "mainspace"; policies and guidelines and other community governance documents are in "Misplaced Pages space" - things there start with "Misplaced Pages" or "WP" like this: ] - that is a different page from ] which is an article in mainspace. There is also draft space, where actually draft articles go while they are being worked on, and there is "User space" which is each user's userpage, their talk page (like this one) and sandboxes and noodling - these all start with "User:"). Your notes should be at ] not ]. It is not a draft article - it cannot be, as there is an existing article on the topic. ] (]) 21:20, 21 June 2017 (UTC)


:I did sign it. I think maybe I've read some of Beutler tho not Riffaud. We are losing that whole generation aren't we? They are leaving behind a valuable legacy. Who is coming up to take their place? ] (]) 18:53, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
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I uploaded more pics, on a mountain in the sun above the fog. - ] - ]. - ] died, - please check the English. No idea what Fundamentaltheology is, for example. --] (]) 15:23, 11 November 2024 (UTC)
{{ping|Jenhawk777}} I just wanted to let you know that I noticed all of the hard work you put into drafting revisions of ]. You picked a controversial topic to start off with, but an important one. Controversial topics tend to attract low quality contributions, so other editors tend to be quicker to revert on these articles than typical ones. Don't be discouraged! There's still a long way to go to improve this article, though, so your efforts to improve it are more than welcome. Feel free to use {{tl|ping}} or edit my talk page if you get frustrated or need help. ] (]) 20:10, 21 June 2017 (UTC)


I uploaded pics of a trip that was a 10-day celebration of a 16 November event, but the day was also when a dear friend died. We sang ] at his funeral yesterday, and it was good. --] (]) 20:30, 30 November 2024 (UTC)
::::] (]) 21:25, 21 June 2017 (UTC)Jenhawk777 Thank you for your patience and the instruction! :-) It is genuinely helpful. I thought I read the stuff on talk--but I don't remember any of this! There is so much--when you are unfamiliar with software language in the first place--that all the information is a little overwhelming. I don't know if I'm doing this right yet! But I am grateful you are persevering with me! <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>

:Thank you! ] (]) 20:51, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

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Wanna sign a petition? ] (]) 18:35, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

:For what? If it's for recognizing how great you are, yes. {{Smiley}} ] (]) 19:15, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
::That WMF shouldn't give your name and address to an Indian court, basically. More at ]. Me and Gerda signed. ] (]) 19:21, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
:::How and where do I sign? ] (]) 19:47, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
::::See ]. ] (]) 20:10, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
::Btw, I don't know if you remember, but I think one of your earliest "clashes" on WP (check your 2017 archive) was with the Great Wikipedian Doug Weller. Sadly, ]. ] (]) 19:31, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
:::Sure, I can get behind that.
:::My interaction with Doug doesn't really qualify as a clash. He was trying to help me by directing me to the Teahouse for additional learning back when I was in a panic over Jytdog. Inexperience on WP on my part, and bias on Jytdog's, produced a perfect storm for me, but Doug was nice about it. I'm very sorry to hear he is ill. ] (]) 19:46, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
::::He's one of the very few I've contacted off-wiki when I saw the need. Admin, former arbcom member, sound mind. And we were both disliked by a Wikipedian who thought she was a descendant of Jesus and Mary Magdalene (true story). She did some socking and one of her accounts was named Doug Dumbass (subtle). For some reason he don't think is funny, but Great Wikipedians are allowed to be eccentric. ] (]) 20:09, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::Good night nurse!! I don't think I was ever rude to Doug! I hope not. Perhaps if I was it was a case of fork handles... {{Smiley}}. ] (]) 20:23, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
::::::That petition took of a bit. I actually started this thread ] in October (originally at the the Village pump, but it's been moved), and I'm pretty sure it's the longest WP-thread I've ever started. It's ] x5. ] (]) 19:31, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::::Indeed. A long and seemingly pointless argument imo. Primary sources have limited value and not just in religion. Most commentaries are akin to a modern blog, and should not be quoted as authoritative.
:::::::I went to a State school. My religion professors were not all believers, and of those that were, they weren't all Christian. They flunked any paper, any person, who did not practice accepted mainstream scholarship. They defined mainstream scholarship by its use of modern critical method - by "methodological naturalism" - and what is verifiable historically - which in religion, isn't much when it comes down to it. I graduated #1 in my class and won a full ride to Vanderbilt grad school, and I did not do so by quoting dubious commentaries that reflected personal belief. On WP, I have never used a commentary in any religion article I have ever worked on and never will. (I am clearly infinitely superior in every way... {{Smiley}} and humble of course...)
:::::::We just have to follow the same standards no matter the topic. Problem solved. Religion discussions are not quite as bad as politics, but they tend to be filled with passionate personal opinion that is usually blind to its very nature as personal - and that happens on both sides of the divide. Sigh. You and me bud. And Gerda of course. Everyone else is a bit nuts... {{Smiley}} ] (]) 20:12, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
::::::::Thanks for the laugh! Yep, noone would think there's something nuts in dedicating hours to this place. But as I told my brother recently, I can do this, ''or'' something like watch a tv-series, play a video-game, read a novel, solve a crossword (and I do most of those). But WP has elements of all those things, so I like to do that too. ] (]) 20:25, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::It is hard to explain the appeal to non-wikipedias isn't it? Long hours of research and reading, recording minutiae into an outdated format to occasionally obtain over-the-top criticisms from people you'll never meet for work they don't even recognize. Whhoohoo! What fun! At least one of my children thinks I am simply wasting time, and that is no doubt absolutely true from time to time. Yet we all go to WP first when looking something up! But you know, personal tastes are impossible to explain or justify to others. My dad loved golf and that is completely inexplicable to me... :-) ] (]) 20:41, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::Yes, there are annoying people you encounter, but there is also the complete opposite, like yourself, and that makes it worth it. And the successes, though perhaps minor, can be so effing rewarding. Cooperating with unknown people you perhaps just share a narrow interest with can be so fun.
::::::::::A while back, the wife of ] asked me if there was any way we could get a pic she had of her husband and a somewhat known boxer onto WP, she had the only copy. I managed to find the photographer who took it in 80:s online (unusual name, now an astronomer and used to be married to Richard Pryor). Mrs Reece called her, and she agreed to do the Commons-thing, which is not that easy for a beginner. So now the world can look at ], I put it in every article I could think of. Call me nuts, but I like that. ] (]) 21:02, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::Awesome. ] (]) 20:44, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
::::::::::::Going back to the start of the thread, there's now over a thousand signatures. I don't know if you've been following the India-story at all. is a little long, but interesting. And the guy reminds me a bit of Jar Jar Binks. ] (]) 10:47, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
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On the Main page today ] on his birthday. Listening to Beethoven's ] from the ]. We ] today. -- ] (]) 21:37, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

:We had beautiful music today as well including Handel's Messiah. Amazing. Love and happy holidays to you and yours. ] (]) 04:24, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
:: Sounds great! - Listen today to the (new) ]. --] (]) 10:56, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
:::I was glad for the reopening of Notre Dame. I was there in the 60s and was very distressed at its damage. ] (]) 19:58, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
:::: So am I, - ] played a (scheduled) festival concert shortly after the fire, and invited donations. - Listen today to ]'s 3rd cello sonata, on his birthday - it was a hook in the ] when his 250th birthday was remembered. I picked a recording with ], because he was on my ] this year, and I was in Brazil (see places), and I love his playing. --] (]) 16:42, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::We are gleichgesinnt, (is that the right word?) aren't we? ] (]) 20:27, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::: Yes, good word for same attitudes, views, beliefs. For taste, it's rather "wir haben den gleichen Geschmack" or "wir mögen dieselben Dinge". - I came to fix the cellist's name, with ] and new pics - look for red birds! - Good luck with the FAC! --] (]) 19:32, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::It is unlikely it will pass. Its length and the inadequacy of some topics that simply can't be fully covered because of length are already raising exclusively negative comments. How is it possible to cover 2000 years of history - that they demanded last time must include the entire world - and its impact on politics, economics, art, and culture without it being long? ] (]) 19:54, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::: It has to be long. - See, I don't make Bach's ] a GA, but individual cantatas, - some even became FA. I think I said this before ;) - Today is ]. And then I'll look into a recent death, and then work on the Advent cantata which I should have tackled in November ... (but there was travel, celebration and death). Last few pics from trip uploaded. --] (]) 16:19, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::Yes everyone tells me to take a smaller article to FA, but it isn't the FA I care about so much as the article itself. But I think I am giving up. There is just no way to satisfy everyone. Cé la vie! ] (]) 22:39, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::: I don't know if you are interested in anything besides the history of Christianity right now, but just for later: ] is about the ] where I had to go and sing, and brought flowers. - I think I never told you not to make the history a FA, but to make something smaller your ''first'' FA, as a preparation, to better understand how it works, to be known and respected in that (a bit difficult) elite community. I hope you can see the difference ;) - I tried to put the history of Christianity in one DYK hook, for ], on the second day of Christmas, and have to be happy that it was accepted at all although late - imagine: someone sacrificed a hook in the full set to later to make room. However, of the 1500 years my hook covered, only 500 are in prep. I hope that readers will find out in the article. - Finally: crying a bit is ok! I will be back for Christmas. --] (]) 16:20, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::Bless you Gerda. Merry Christmas. ] (]) 16:34, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
:::::::::::: Thank you! We rehearsed for ]. - ] it's another great woman, soprano ], and I found a 1963 Christmas Oratorio detail. 10 years earlier than that cycle, Bach wrote ] for the 1724 season, based on seven songs, - my focus this year. Expect three stories for the three days they celebrated in Leipzig ;) - Enjoy the season! --] (]) 21:43, 23 December 2024 (UTC)
{{od}} Thank you for your note! ]: about ], 300 years today, and its song, 500 years old. Enjoy the season! --] (]) 18:12, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

Similarly, my ] is about ], 300 years today, and its song, 500 years old. An aria is inspired by a baby leaping in his mother's womb. Enjoy! --] (]) 22:36, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
: Such a different perspective! Everything in America must be new! We have no reverence! ] (]) 23:02, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
:: My ] is different, - mo modern base so to speak, the individaul believer's joy. --] (]) 19:04, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
:::Love it! ] (]) 03:43, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

== Question from ] (07:06, 13 December 2024) ==

Hi mentor, do you know how to change a photo used on a wikipage? I would like to edit the page of a favorite celebrity to have a nicer more flattering photo, thanks for your kind help on it. --] (]) 07:06, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

:@] More details are needed. Basic rule of thumb is that any random pic you find online is under copyright and can't be used. Apart from old stuff in the public domain, and some stuff by governments, WP is generally restricted to pics uploaded by the copyright holder, almost always the photographer. We can't use a pic because "nice", we go by "per rulez". So, we have a lot of pics from comic cons etc.
:So, with that in mind, what pic did you want to use? If you are in contact with this celebrity, you can point them to ]. ] (]) 08:00, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
::Oh okay, thanks for your response, to be more specific, just wanted to remove a more unflattering pic on the page, the other pics are great and that one is just not representative of the beauty at all, thank you for the helpful details you provided, appreciate it. ] (]) 08:23, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

== Question from ] (05:35, 16 December 2024) ==

Hi! I wanted some help in creating an article- I do have a conflict of interest so I may need help with getting someone else to write it (I can provide sources) or review it.

Thanks! --] (]) 05:35, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

:If you look at the list on the left of your screen, you will see "Help". Click it, then click on some of the blue-highlighted pages and start reading up. To see what to do about a conflict of interest, go here: ] To start an article, click this one: ]. And welcome! ] (]) 20:33, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

== Byzantine Empire ==

Hi @]

I've completed my review of your work in ''Religion''. I wish to thank you for your contribution. You introduced some great new sources and thematically covered things appropriately. I had to make some changes, but it's all based on the work you did with some great sources I enjoyed reading. Thank you. ] (]) 06:30, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

:I'm glad I was able to help. If you have time on your hands right now, ] is at FAC and needs a review. ] (]) 06:42, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
::I unfortunately don't, but I'll take a look and see if I can add any value. ] (]) 06:49, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
:::Thanx! ] (]) 06:58, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

== History of C FAC ==

I saw your comment on Gog's page "I was hoping that someone would read it all the way through and comment on content, but so far the comments have all been about little things that have been easily fixed". I think this shows a fundamental misunderstanding of how FAC works. A reviewer mentions a general problem with the article and gives a couple of specific examples. You fix those examples, add a little "Done" with tick on the review, and move on. But it isn't done at all. This is a common problem with some nominators at FAC, and their noms usually struggle. The reviews you had, even in a few days, raised (often contradicting each other, sure) a long list of basic issues that will not be "easily fixed" at all. ] (]) 02:12, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

:I'm sure you're right, and the fault is in my ignorance of the process and the requirements. What is fixable? ] (]) 03:18, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

== Question from ] (08:28, 22 December 2024) ==

How do i create a wikipedia page? --] (]) 08:28, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

:: @], hello! Making an acceptable WP-article (I assume that's what you mean, like for example ]) without knowing how to edit WP is ''hard''. A common advice is to "just" edit for a while first, to try to get a hang of this place.
:: That said, your first hurdle is "'''Can a WP-article about your chosen subject be written at all?'''" Start with reading ]. If you conclude "Yeah, I have those sources, no problem!", move on to ]. If your choice of topic fails ], the article will not be accepted. If you decide to go ahead, you need to learn how to add references correctly, ] can help with that. This is '''crucial''', and I can't stress that enough. Really. If you intend to write about a living person, read ]. If you intend to write about yourself (]), the short advice is "don't."
:: Hope this helps some, and Merry Christmas! ] (]) 17:16, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

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:Thank you so very much, and the same to you and yours. Bless you. ] (]) 18:26, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

== Merry Christmas ==

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I've not had a chance to read through History of Christianity yet, and I see the FAC has been closed. I'll read through it in the new year, I can still give feedback from an amatuer perspective if it would be helpful. Hope you enjoy the holidays. -- <small>LCU</small> ''']''' <small>''«]» °]°''</small> 00:28, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

:Hello! I am so glad to hear from you! I had to pull the nomination because all it was getting was negative feedback. My inexperience with the FAC requirements ... An editor more familiar with those is working on it now. He's amazing. I am surprised the process is making it less detailed, so less precise and more general, which for my academic mind is completely backwards - but a narrative is apparently necessary. A narrative with simple words. I am just watching from the cheap seats right now, but you know I always appreciate your input. You are pretty amazing yourself. Hope you and yours are well and having a happy holiday season. Two days till presents!! :-) Merry Christmas! ] (]) 04:06, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

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:Thank you so much! Merry Christmas to you and tours as well. ] (]) 23:09, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

== New leadimage at ]? ==

] if you feel like having an opinion. ] (]) 16:59, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

:Not really, and hey, I apologize for the revert. I was given wrong info. I think I've fixed it now. Again. Without you that might not have been found. Thank you. ] (]) 21:53, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
::The hyphen-thing? I just noticed that per article-text, they were rare (when I noticed it). Quite possibly, they are one of those MOS-things that can be either way (but should be consistent within an article) and some people feel strongly about. I considered "4th century" style, but that didn't seem to be in use. No biggie. ] (]) 08:55, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

== Your work on "History of Christianity" ==

Hi Jenhawk777, as you know, I've been reading "History of Christianity". I see that you've contributed almost three-quarters of the content, and I wanted to congratulate you for your fine work on the article—most impressive. The "Who Wrote That?". tool shows which parts you wrote. A huge task, and I think you're doing a splendid job. ] (]) 03:40, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

:OMG! Thank you. I haven't received many compliments, since most comments have come from reviews looking for ways to improve it, so I am doubly grateful. Hardly anyone realizes what a huge task this has been - maybe ] who is helping to make it more concise is beginning to feel the weight of it a little. It's a humongous topic, and I am not an expert in all these ages, so it has taken two years for me to do the reading and research needed. I am committed to getting this article where it needs to be, and as the wonderful and amazing AirshipJungleman29 will tell you, I have a tendancy to be verbose and include minute detail, so when this is done, he will be as deserving of praise as anyone. And thank you for your input. I am grateful to everyone who has shown up to help on this article. It really needs to be one of WP's best. ] (]) 04:03, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

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A year ago ...
"What do you mean,
I can´t rewrite
the entire article!?"
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no. 1915 of Precious,
a prize of QAI!

miss you --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:58, 30 April 2019 (UTC)


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You deserve this for your herculean efforts to improve Biblical criticism and respond to the comments at its recent FAC. As Gog mentioned in the closing note, with some additional work it will have a good chance at passing next time around. {{u|Sdkb}}  05:04, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

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Thank you Jenhawk777 for the message that you left on Gerda's page for me. Truly, the volunteers of these huge projects like WP, LibriVox, DP cannot go the extra mile without people like Gerda and you, who inject fresh energy into the volunteers. The kind words are our only salary, and fortunately we all can pay each other a lot. :) Qapisce (talk) 10:57, 21 September 2021 (UTC)

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For all the time and effort you have put in — across thousands of edits — to markedly improve numerous articles related to Christianity all these years. The magnitude of the positive impact you have had with regard to Misplaced Pages's coverage of academic topics related to Christianity is unprecedented; I cannot think of any other editor who has worked so rigorously and improved those topics to the extent that you have. You are a phenomenal editor and your work is awe-inspiring. Thank you for all that you do! — The Most Comfortable Chair 21:12, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
This has touched me so deeply I almost cried. Thank you so, so very much. Jenhawk777 (talk) 21:29, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

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For tireless and invaluable efforts on creating and improving Christianity-related pages. Avilich (talk) 12:10, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Not the first you receive, but the first I ever hand out. Avilich (talk) 12:10, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Avilich Bless your heart! Thank you so much! This is very kind of you and I appreciate it. Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:10, 24 June 2022 (UTC)

Referencing of Conversion to Christianity

A cookie for your work, not sure how much more I can help you with referencing now :).

The content now reads as a proper Misplaced Pages article as well. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested ∆transmissions∆ °co-ords° 10:50, 19 September 2023 (UTC)

ActivelyDisinterested Bless you! Thank you! I so deeply appreciate you and all your work. You are still the one I will reach out to when I have a problem, but you have taught me a lot, and this article was just too much to ask someone else to do for me. I would have enjoyed banging my head against a wall more, but hey, I followed your example and got it done. I put it up for peer review and others suggested adding back a theology section which I am beginning work on today. Thank you again. You are a great blessing. Jenhawk777 (talk) 15:22, 19 September 2023 (UTC)


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story · music · places

memories -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:39, 4 November 2024 (UTC)

For a surprise, a Bach cantata is on the Main page today, where it was last year for the 300th anniversary, and they were too lazy to find something new ;) - Look at my story, and listen to the 3 whole-tone steps and the dialogues of Fear and Hope. - An open letter open to be signed (more info just below and on the talk), - I haven't checked if you did, please ignore then. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:32, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

I did sign it. I think maybe I've read some of Beutler tho not Riffaud. We are losing that whole generation aren't we? They are leaving behind a valuable legacy. Who is coming up to take their place? Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:53, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

I uploaded more pics, on a mountain in the sun above the fog. - Madeleine Riffaud - remember. - Another theologian died, - please check the English. No idea what Fundamentaltheology is, for example. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 15:23, 11 November 2024 (UTC)

I uploaded pics of a trip that was a 10-day celebration of a 16 November event, but the day was also when a dear friend died. We sang Hevenu shalom aleichem at his funeral yesterday, and it was good. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:30, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

Thank you! Jenhawk777 (talk) 20:51, 30 November 2024 (UTC)

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Wanna sign a petition? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:35, 7 November 2024 (UTC)

For what? If it's for recognizing how great you are, yes. Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:15, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
That WMF shouldn't give your name and address to an Indian court, basically. More at Wikipedia_talk:2024_open_letter_to_the_Wikimedia_Foundation#Context?. Me and Gerda signed. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:21, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
How and where do I sign? Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:47, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
See Misplaced Pages:2024 open letter to the Wikimedia Foundation. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:10, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
Btw, I don't know if you remember, but I think one of your earliest "clashes" on WP (check your 2017 archive) was with the Great Wikipedian Doug Weller. Sadly, User_talk:Doug_Weller#Update_on_cancer. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:31, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
Sure, I can get behind that.
My interaction with Doug doesn't really qualify as a clash. He was trying to help me by directing me to the Teahouse for additional learning back when I was in a panic over Jytdog. Inexperience on WP on my part, and bias on Jytdog's, produced a perfect storm for me, but Doug was nice about it. I'm very sorry to hear he is ill. Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:46, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
He's one of the very few I've contacted off-wiki when I saw the need. Admin, former arbcom member, sound mind. And we were both disliked by a Wikipedian who thought she was a descendant of Jesus and Mary Magdalene (true story). She did some socking and one of her accounts was named Doug Dumbass (subtle). For some reason he don't think is funny, but Great Wikipedians are allowed to be eccentric. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:09, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
Good night nurse!! I don't think I was ever rude to Doug! I hope not. Perhaps if I was it was a case of fork handles... . Jenhawk777 (talk) 20:23, 7 November 2024 (UTC)
That petition took of a bit. I actually started this thread Misplaced Pages:Community_response_to_Asian_News_International_vs._Wikimedia_Foundation#The_Asian_News_International_vs._Wikimedia_Foundation_situation in October (originally at the the Village pump, but it's been moved), and I'm pretty sure it's the longest WP-thread I've ever started. It's Misplaced Pages:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_327#Scriptural_texts_(WP:RSPSCRIPTURE) x5. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:31, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
Indeed. A long and seemingly pointless argument imo. Primary sources have limited value and not just in religion. Most commentaries are akin to a modern blog, and should not be quoted as authoritative.
I went to a State school. My religion professors were not all believers, and of those that were, they weren't all Christian. They flunked any paper, any person, who did not practice accepted mainstream scholarship. They defined mainstream scholarship by its use of modern critical method - by "methodological naturalism" - and what is verifiable historically - which in religion, isn't much when it comes down to it. I graduated #1 in my class and won a full ride to Vanderbilt grad school, and I did not do so by quoting dubious commentaries that reflected personal belief. On WP, I have never used a commentary in any religion article I have ever worked on and never will. (I am clearly infinitely superior in every way... and humble of course...)
We just have to follow the same standards no matter the topic. Problem solved. Religion discussions are not quite as bad as politics, but they tend to be filled with passionate personal opinion that is usually blind to its very nature as personal - and that happens on both sides of the divide. Sigh. You and me bud. And Gerda of course. Everyone else is a bit nuts... Jenhawk777 (talk) 20:12, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for the laugh! Yep, noone would think there's something nuts in dedicating hours to this place. But as I told my brother recently, I can do this, or something like watch a tv-series, play a video-game, read a novel, solve a crossword (and I do most of those). But WP has elements of all those things, so I like to do that too. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:25, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
It is hard to explain the appeal to non-wikipedias isn't it? Long hours of research and reading, recording minutiae into an outdated format to occasionally obtain over-the-top criticisms from people you'll never meet for work they don't even recognize. Whhoohoo! What fun! At least one of my children thinks I am simply wasting time, and that is no doubt absolutely true from time to time. Yet we all go to WP first when looking something up! But you know, personal tastes are impossible to explain or justify to others. My dad loved golf and that is completely inexplicable to me... :-) Jenhawk777 (talk) 20:41, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
Yes, there are annoying people you encounter, but there is also the complete opposite, like yourself, and that makes it worth it. And the successes, though perhaps minor, can be so effing rewarding. Cooperating with unknown people you perhaps just share a narrow interest with can be so fun.
A while back, the wife of Skeeter Reece asked me if there was any way we could get a pic she had of her husband and a somewhat known boxer onto WP, she had the only copy. I managed to find the photographer who took it in 80:s online (unusual name, now an astronomer and used to be married to Richard Pryor). Mrs Reece called her, and she agreed to do the Commons-thing, which is not that easy for a beginner. So now the world can look at File:The Champ and The Clown.jpg, I put it in every article I could think of. Call me nuts, but I like that. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 21:02, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
Awesome. Jenhawk777 (talk) 20:44, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
Going back to the start of the thread, there's now over a thousand signatures. I don't know if you've been following the India-story at all. This video is a little long, but interesting. And the guy reminds me a bit of Jar Jar Binks. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 10:47, 2 December 2024 (UTC)
LOL!! Jenhawk777 (talk) 04:31, 3 December 2024 (UTC)

Women in Red December 2024

Women in Red | December 2024, Vol 10, Issue 12, Nos 293, 294, 324, 325


Online events:

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--Lajmmoore (talk 18:45, 29 November 2024 (UTC) via MassMessaging

December music

story · music · places

On the Main page today Jean Sibelius on his birthday. Listening to Beethoven's Fifth from the opening of Notre-Dame de Paris. We sang in choirs today. -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:37, 8 December 2024 (UTC)

We had beautiful music today as well including Handel's Messiah. Amazing. Love and happy holidays to you and yours. Jenhawk777 (talk) 04:24, 9 December 2024 (UTC)
Sounds great! - Listen today to the (new) Perplexities after Escher. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:56, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
I was glad for the reopening of Notre Dame. I was there in the 60s and was very distressed at its damage. Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:58, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
So am I, - one of its organists played a (scheduled) festival concert shortly after the fire, and invited donations. - Listen today to Beethoven's 3rd cello sonata, on his birthday - it was a hook in the 2020 DYK set when his 250th birthday was remembered. I picked a recording with Antônio Meneses, because he was on my sad list this year, and I was in Brazil (see places), and I love his playing. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:42, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
We are gleichgesinnt, (is that the right word?) aren't we? Jenhawk777 (talk) 20:27, 16 December 2024 (UTC)
Yes, good word for same attitudes, views, beliefs. For taste, it's rather "wir haben den gleichen Geschmack" or "wir mögen dieselben Dinge". - I came to fix the cellist's name, with a 10-years-old DYK and new pics - look for red birds! - Good luck with the FAC! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:32, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
It is unlikely it will pass. Its length and the inadequacy of some topics that simply can't be fully covered because of length are already raising exclusively negative comments. How is it possible to cover 2000 years of history - that they demanded last time must include the entire world - and its impact on politics, economics, art, and culture without it being long? Jenhawk777 (talk) 19:54, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
It has to be long. - See, I don't make Bach's chorale cantata cycle a GA, but individual cantatas, - some even became FA. I think I said this before ;) - Today is a woman poet's centenary. And then I'll look into a recent death, and then work on the Advent cantata which I should have tackled in November ... (but there was travel, celebration and death). Last few pics from trip uploaded. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:19, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
Yes everyone tells me to take a smaller article to FA, but it isn't the FA I care about so much as the article itself. But I think I am giving up. There is just no way to satisfy everyone. Cé la vie! Jenhawk777 (talk) 22:39, 20 December 2024 (UTC)
I don't know if you are interested in anything besides the history of Christianity right now, but just for later: today's story is about the Hauptfriedhof Mainz where I had to go and sing, and brought flowers. - I think I never told you not to make the history a FA, but to make something smaller your first FA, as a preparation, to better understand how it works, to be known and respected in that (a bit difficult) elite community. I hope you can see the difference ;) - I tried to put the history of Christianity in one DYK hook, for Christum wir sollen loben schon, BWV 121, on the second day of Christmas, and have to be happy that it was accepted at all although late - imagine: someone sacrificed a hook in the full set to later to make room. However, of the 1500 years my hook covered, only 500 are in prep. I hope that readers will find out in the article. - Finally: crying a bit is ok! I will be back for Christmas. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 16:20, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
Bless you Gerda. Merry Christmas. Jenhawk777 (talk) 16:34, 21 December 2024 (UTC)
Thank you! We rehearsed for tomorrow. - Today it's another great woman, soprano Sigrid Kehl, and I found a 1963 Christmas Oratorio detail. 10 years earlier than that cycle, Bach wrote seven cantatas for the 1724 season, based on seven songs, - my focus this year. Expect three stories for the three days they celebrated in Leipzig ;) - Enjoy the season! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:43, 23 December 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your note! #1 Christmas story: about Gelobet seist du, Jesu Christ, BWV 91, 300 years today, and its song, 500 years old. Enjoy the season! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 18:12, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

Similarly, my second Christmas story is about Christum wir sollen loben schon, BWV 121, 300 years today, and its song, 500 years old. An aria is inspired by a baby leaping in his mother's womb. Enjoy! --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:36, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

Such a different perspective! Everything in America must be new! We have no reverence! Jenhawk777 (talk) 23:02, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
My third Christmas story is different, - mo modern base so to speak, the individaul believer's joy. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:04, 27 December 2024 (UTC)
Love it! Jenhawk777 (talk) 03:43, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

Question from WikiAccumen (07:06, 13 December 2024)

Hi mentor, do you know how to change a photo used on a wikipage? I would like to edit the page of a favorite celebrity to have a nicer more flattering photo, thanks for your kind help on it. --WikiAccumen (talk) 07:06, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

@WikiAccumen More details are needed. Basic rule of thumb is that any random pic you find online is under copyright and can't be used. Apart from old stuff in the public domain, and some stuff by governments, WP is generally restricted to pics uploaded here by the copyright holder, almost always the photographer. We can't use a pic because "nice", we go by "per rulez". So, we have a lot of pics from comic cons etc.
So, with that in mind, what pic did you want to use? If you are in contact with this celebrity, you can point them to Misplaced Pages:A picture of you. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:00, 13 December 2024 (UTC)
Oh okay, thanks for your response, to be more specific, just wanted to remove a more unflattering pic on the page, the other pics are great and that one is just not representative of the beauty at all, thank you for the helpful details you provided, appreciate it. WikiAccumen (talk) 08:23, 13 December 2024 (UTC)

Question from Writer.ch2 (05:35, 16 December 2024)

Hi! I wanted some help in creating an article- I do have a conflict of interest so I may need help with getting someone else to write it (I can provide sources) or review it.

Thanks! --Writer.ch2 (talk) 05:35, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

If you look at the list on the left of your screen, you will see "Help". Click it, then click on some of the blue-highlighted pages and start reading up. To see what to do about a conflict of interest, go here: Misplaced Pages:Conflict of interest To start an article, click this one: Your first article . And welcome! Jenhawk777 (talk) 20:33, 16 December 2024 (UTC)

Byzantine Empire

Hi @Jenhawk777

I've completed my review of your work in Religion. I wish to thank you for your contribution. You introduced some great new sources and thematically covered things appropriately. I had to make some changes, but it's all based on the work you did with some great sources I enjoyed reading. Thank you. Biz (talk) 06:30, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

I'm glad I was able to help. If you have time on your hands right now, History of Christianity is at FAC and needs a review. Jenhawk777 (talk) 06:42, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
I unfortunately don't, but I'll take a look and see if I can add any value. Biz (talk) 06:49, 19 December 2024 (UTC)
Thanx! Jenhawk777 (talk) 06:58, 19 December 2024 (UTC)

History of C FAC

I saw your comment on Gog's page "I was hoping that someone would read it all the way through and comment on content, but so far the comments have all been about little things that have been easily fixed". I think this shows a fundamental misunderstanding of how FAC works. A reviewer mentions a general problem with the article and gives a couple of specific examples. You fix those examples, add a little "Done" with tick on the review, and move on. But it isn't done at all. This is a common problem with some nominators at FAC, and their noms usually struggle. The reviews you had, even in a few days, raised (often contradicting each other, sure) a long list of basic issues that will not be "easily fixed" at all. Johnbod (talk) 02:12, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

I'm sure you're right, and the fault is in my ignorance of the process and the requirements. What is fixable? Jenhawk777 (talk) 03:18, 21 December 2024 (UTC)

Question from ChloeBella185 (08:28, 22 December 2024)

How do i create a wikipedia page? --ChloeBella185 (talk) 08:28, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

@ChloeBella185, hello! Making an acceptable WP-article (I assume that's what you mean, like for example Wheelbarrow race) without knowing how to edit WP is hard. A common advice is to "just" edit for a while first, to try to get a hang of this place.
That said, your first hurdle is "Can a WP-article about your chosen subject be written at all?" Start with reading WP:BACKWARD. If you conclude "Yeah, I have those sources, no problem!", move on to WP:YFA. If your choice of topic fails WP:N, the article will not be accepted. If you decide to go ahead, you need to learn how to add references correctly, WP:TUTORIAL can help with that. This is crucial, and I can't stress that enough. Really. If you intend to write about a living person, read WP:BLP. If you intend to write about yourself (WP:COI), the short advice is "don't."
Hope this helps some, and Merry Christmas! Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:16, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Joyous Season

I wish that you may have a very Happy Holiday! Whether you celebrate Christmas, Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, Hogmanay, Festivus or your hemisphere's Solstice, this is a special time of year for almost everyone! May the New Year provide you joy and fulfillment! Thanks for everything you do here. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:28, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Spread the holiday cheer by adding {{subst:User:Coffee/Holidays}} to your fellow editors' talk pages.

Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:28, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Thank you so very much, and the same to you and yours. Bless you. Jenhawk777 (talk) 18:26, 22 December 2024 (UTC)

Merry Christmas

I've not had a chance to read through History of Christianity yet, and I see the FAC has been closed. I'll read through it in the new year, I can still give feedback from an amatuer perspective if it would be helpful. Hope you enjoy the holidays. -- LCU ActivelyDisinterested «@» °∆t° 00:28, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Hello! I am so glad to hear from you! I had to pull the nomination because all it was getting was negative feedback. My inexperience with the FAC requirements ... An editor more familiar with those is working on it now. He's amazing. I am surprised the process is making it less detailed, so less precise and more general, which for my academic mind is completely backwards - but a narrative is apparently necessary. A narrative with simple words. I am just watching from the cheap seats right now, but you know I always appreciate your input. You are pretty amazing yourself. Hope you and yours are well and having a happy holiday season. Two days till presents!! :-) Merry Christmas! Jenhawk777 (talk) 04:06, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Happy Holidays

Merry Christmas and a Prosperous 2025!

Hello Jenhawk777, may you be surrounded by peace, success and happiness on this seasonal occasion. Spread the WikiLove by wishing another user a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past, a good friend, or just some random person. Sending you heartfelt and warm greetings for Christmas and New Year 2025.
Happy editing,
Abishe (talk) 22:19, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Spread the love by adding {{subst:Seasonal Greetings}} to other user talk pages.

Abishe (talk) 22:19, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Thank you so much! Merry Christmas to you and tours as well. Jenhawk777 (talk) 23:09, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

New leadimage at Jesus?

Talk:Jesus#RFC:_Changing_picture_in_infobox if you feel like having an opinion. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 16:59, 26 December 2024 (UTC)

Not really, and hey, I apologize for the revert. I was given wrong info. I think I've fixed it now. Again. Without you that might not have been found. Thank you. Jenhawk777 (talk) 21:53, 26 December 2024 (UTC)
The hyphen-thing? I just noticed that per article-text, they were rare (when I noticed it). Quite possibly, they are one of those MOS-things that can be either way (but should be consistent within an article) and some people feel strongly about. I considered "4th century" style, but that didn't seem to be in use. No biggie. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 08:55, 27 December 2024 (UTC)

Your work on "History of Christianity"

Hi Jenhawk777, as you know, I've been reading "History of Christianity". I see that you've contributed almost three-quarters of the content, and I wanted to congratulate you for your fine work on the article—most impressive. The "Who Wrote That?". tool shows which parts you wrote. A huge task, and I think you're doing a splendid job. Carlstak (talk) 03:40, 28 December 2024 (UTC)

OMG! Thank you. I haven't received many compliments, since most comments have come from reviews looking for ways to improve it, so I am doubly grateful. Hardly anyone realizes what a huge task this has been - maybe ~~ AirshipJungleman29 who is helping to make it more concise is beginning to feel the weight of it a little. It's a humongous topic, and I am not an expert in all these ages, so it has taken two years for me to do the reading and research needed. I am committed to getting this article where it needs to be, and as the wonderful and amazing AirshipJungleman29 will tell you, I have a tendancy to be verbose and include minute detail, so when this is done, he will be as deserving of praise as anyone. And thank you for your input. I am grateful to everyone who has shown up to help on this article. It really needs to be one of WP's best. Jenhawk777 (talk) 04:03, 28 December 2024 (UTC)