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== New Management == |
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I came to this page to make clear that I am the current owner of <i>Encyclopedia Dramatica LLC</i> which is now registered in Nevada. I appreciate the efforts to keep this page updated and if anyone here needs to reach out or contact me I can be emailed via <b>aediot@encyclopediadramatica.wiki</b> with questions, updates or otherwise needed. |
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Thank you again to everyone involved with this page. - <b>æ admin</b> 08:01, 3 March 2020 (UTC) <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </small> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:According to the , encyclopediadamatica.wiki is due to make its debut in 24 hours time, but as of today it is still showing a placeholder page. Watch this space.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 08:17, 3 March 2020 (UTC) |
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*And it's back online as promised at encyclopediadamatica.wiki. To coin a cliché, reports of ED's death were an exaggeration.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 07:05, 4 March 2020 (UTC) |
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===December 2020=== |
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Just came back to say that this page has been vandalized by an off-shoot group looking to change the domain listed here to .online when .wiki is still the active domain. |
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I'd request that this be changed back and the page be either locked or watched for future vandalization. |
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Thank you. - <b></b> 10:13, 2 December 2020 (UTC) <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:I've been a bit confused over this too. The current version of this article says <nowiki>https://encyclopediadramatica.online</nowiki> in the infobox and there is a site up and running at this address, while <nowiki>https://encyclopediadramatica.xyz</nowiki> redirects to .online. Meanwhile, <nowiki>https://encyclopediadramatica.wiki</nowiki> says "Seems we ran into another snag. We have a few very well trained professionals developers working to resolve whatever the wiki is throwing a tantrum about, for updates on specifics you can check our . Current ETA: Roughly a week maybe less." So we are faced with the possibility of two rival sites both claiming to be the original and genuine version of the site. I'm not quite sure what to do for the best if this happens.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 23:04, 2 December 2020 (UTC) |
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For what it's worth I still own the LLC, and the current lawsuit ED is facing is towards my end because I'm recognized as the established wiki. We also have ourselves listed for the .wiki at https://www.reddit.com/r/encyclopediadramatica/ which all the mods there confirm on my end in addition to KnowYourMeme here: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/sites/encyclopedia-dramatica |
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This second wiki came up because some of my moderators got hissy after I found one of them lying then tried to put up a version of the wiki without any of the user accounts (because they crawled it from wayback machine). |
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I plan to have the .wiki back up in some days but I have it down for maintenance, initially it was a database error but I'm having it rebuilt on the docker backend level because it's due for some fixing. |
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If you need any legal or otherwise ownership proof I can provide whatever you need, just lemme know. |
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Thanks in advance. - <b></b> 01:28, 3 December 2020 (UTC) <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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*Can we have reference for the domain change to .wiki in the "Succession of domains" section? Also, has someone reported in the news about the new corporate ownership? ] (]) 18:26, 5 December 2020 (UTC) |
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== June 2024 == |
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:I think it's simplest if we just list both. I don't think XYZ is actively pointing anywhere, and do we have any sources establishing notability of XYZ or ONLINE as we do for WIKI extension? ] (]) 05:53, 14 December 2020 (UTC) |
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::At the time of writing, the .wiki version says "Encyclopedia Dramatica is currently being restored by automated scripts. Content and images will return shortly", ''ie'' the .wiki version is still not back up yet. If it does return, there will be a problem with how to define the link if there are two rival versions.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 07:47, 14 December 2020 (UTC) |
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Yes, the .top version is now offline so it didn't last very long. It is unclear why this has happened and the site faces another period of uncertainty. '''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 07:29, 9 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:It's back, and according to the Dramatica forum, "] suspended the domain." So off we go with a new domain, with .top holding the record for the shortest tenure at less than a month.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 18:02, 9 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::Running into a small issue where the wiki backup I own is actually so massive (since it's the complete one) that mediawiki is overloading the server trying to import it. I'll get this fixed relatively soon. The .online listed meanwhile only has content from 2015 or so and none of the images natively in the server. Unsure on why it's being listed next to mine. If a third version were to come up owned by someone else entirely different would it be listed here as well? Confused on the logic. I'm happy to provide whatever documents or otherwise is needed here to get this sorted. Don't really see a point in handling all the lawsuits while some completely unrecognized version gets to ride off my hard work considering they aren't even LLC'd. - <b></b> 15:32, 18 December 2020 (UTC) <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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::Re . ED currently has two domains, edramatica.com which was registered on 9 June 2024, and dramatica.wtf which was registered on 13 May 2024 and is also being used for the forums. Since edramatica.com seems to be the main address and dramatica.wtf is a mirror, the article should give edramatica.com as the address per ].--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 10:00, 10 June 2024 (UTC) |
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Re : I have tried to avoid taking sides in this dispute, but the reality is that the .online version of the site is online and showing some content, while the .wiki version isn't. Even the .online version admits that a lot of the images and articles have gone missing due to the bumpy road with the site's hosting and management, but it is online (just about). It's hard to recommend the .wiki version if it isn't showing anything beyond a "we'll be back at some stage" message.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 08:05, 13 February 2021 (UTC) |
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:::Re : edramatica.com is down at the moment, but it is unclear whether this is a temporary blip or something more serious.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 15:28, 17 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::::I'm an ED regular, and I saw it go down live. When it went down, edramatica.com was replaced with a page that said, "So Don't Do That Then... (This domain has been terminated for abuse)", so I think it's safe to believe that edramatica.com has been suspended by EasyDNS. ] (]) 17:23, 17 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::Thanks, there have been persistent claims in the past few weeks that domain registrars are unhappy with some of the content on ED. Freedom of speech is one thing, deliberate harassment and defamation of living people is another. Since this is all part of the fun (cough, cough) at ED, it leaves them with the difficult task of finding a new domain and web host.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 18:07, 17 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*And thanks to the wonders of the ], we can see the termination message . It does indeed say "So Don't Do That Then... (This domain has been terminated for abuse)" as a message from ], complete with a dead skeleton pirate. At this rate ED will end up as a ] only, because no domain will have them.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 18:18, 17 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*:The forums at also seem to be down, as all I get is an error message saying "Page could not be loaded". (On other devices I tried, the website won't even load at all and just says "DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN") ] (]) 22:37, 17 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:They are now on encyclopediadramatica.gay, which was registered with ] on 17 June 2024. So let's see how long this lasts, they have had three new domains in little over a month.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 07:01, 18 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::That might not be the wisest choice, per the ] section of the ] article. I don't know, we'll just have to wait and see how long this one will last for. ] (]) 11:57, 18 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::OT, but i'm surprised to see ED able to registed the .gay domain at all. ] (]) 11:20, 26 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::The .gay website now redirects to edramatica.com, which is working again. ] (]) 22:34, 25 August 2024 (UTC) |
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===.win domain=== |
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The .wiki is online with all the original content + 3x the content the .online had at this point now with the statistics page being linked on the front page showing the numbers. In addition to which https://encyclopediadramaticaonline/ no longer resolves or works. Images are still being restored however mediawiki is importing them as fast as it's able. They seem to have set up at another domain now but it doesn't even have the full site title in its name. - <b></b> 19:29, 16 February 2021 (UTC) <!-- Template:Unsigned --><span class="autosigned" style="font-size:85%;">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </span> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Re : It's true that the site is up and running at .win, but it is also up and running at .gay at the time of writing. This leads to a problem with ] as usually only one URL is given.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 07:01, 16 July 2024 (UTC) |
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:.gay is the current official domain and hosts both the Encyclopedia Dramatica Forums and the wiki. .win is an unauthorized copy of the site that was made by a disgruntled former wiki sysop. The .win site doesn't even have a forum because the guy who runs it never even had a copy of the forum database (although he tried to beg the owner of .gay for the database). |
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:No one of any importance from .online or any of the previous domains is using .win, they are all on .gay. ] (]) 00:40, 19 July 2024 (UTC) |
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: is a screenshot of the current state of play at dot wiki. We're promised that "EDiting to re-open shortly" but there is no actual content at the moment. However, dot online seems to be completely down at the moment, so right now neither site is up and running. Watch this space.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 19:39, 16 February 2021 (UTC) |
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::The main pages of .gay and .win are different, so they are not a complete mirror. Also, .win does not have the forums which are only on .gay. So it does look like .win is an unofficial mirror and not endorsed by the people at .gay.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 07:12, 21 July 2024 (UTC) |
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: Those are 'very interesting' one sided comments by both editors, hmmm, but above statement makes no sense if some ver is accepted or not... .win has more articles, also .win has more quality videos... ] (]) 16:33, 21 July 2024 (UTC) |
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Could one of the admins keep Jacob Stelmach from editing the page? ] 13:03 16 Febuary 2021 |
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:] applies here, so anyone involved with the admin side of ED should avoid editing here, particularly if it involves going back and forth on the domain.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 19:43, 16 February 2021 (UTC) |
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::I'm not going to get drawn into an argument over which is the better or more official version, but they are not serving exactly the same content and .win does not have the forum pages.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 16:39, 21 July 2024 (UTC) |
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:It would seem that .win is down for the count, leaving edramatica.com as the sole host of the property. The circle of life continues... ''']'''<sub> (]•])</sub> 16:02, 27 September 2024 (UTC) |
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== Can the site URL be updated to a live link or removed entirely? == |
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::It's hard to keep up with this, but at the time of writing, .gay is completely offline, while .win has a page saying "It's over - for now... Due to reasons that shall not be disclosed I will not be able to run encyclopediadramatica.win anymore - at least all on my own." This means that edramatica.com is the only working version at the moment, and thankfully we no longer have to listen to arguments about whether .win or .gay is the better version, because both of them are unavailable now.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 16:15, 27 September 2024 (UTC) |
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I have partially overturned the Arbcom decision to totally ban links to ED. Now, I can safely start this discussion. If there is a URL to the main page in the infobox, it should either be a live link or removed entirely. A non-link URL only exists to incovenience the readers. The site contains a lot of horrible content, but Misplaced Pages is not censored. As it is quite easy to find the site URL, I recommend changing the URL to a live link. Please note I am not affiliated with ED in anyway. Thoughts? ] (]) 19:11, 7 March 2021 (UTC) |
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:::{{Reply|ianmacm}} I'm beginning to get concerned about the quality of the article, as the list of domains & owners is becoming too unwieldy for the infobox. We should probably find a way to truncate it. ''']'''<sub> (]•])</sub> 17:22, 27 September 2024 (UTC) |
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::::Agreed, I'm not sure that the infobox needs to list all of the domains that are now defunct.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 17:41, 27 September 2024 (UTC) |
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:It's difficult because there are now two rival versions. Also, the .wiki version is still showing a "we'll be back soon" message, while the .online version is unreliable and up and down like a yo-yo. It is down at the moment, so at the time of writing there is no version available. Things need time to settle down, but both sites need to up their game.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 07:58, 8 March 2021 (UTC) |
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why is there no link? ] (]) 17:47, 19 November 2024 (UTC) |
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::In my opinion, the two versions of ED being dysfunctional shouldn't come into play, as it's not our concern if they're in ship shape; we just shouldn't have dead links. {{Ping|Steve M}} I'd be fine with either including the links or deleting them both, so long as we're not having a repeat of the discussions above, where we're getting involved with the dispute between the sites' administrators, over who has the better website. ''']'''<sub> (]•])</sub> 00:44, 9 March 2021 (UTC) |
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:There have been so many ups and downs in 2024 that it is hard to keep track of them all. However, the article is correct that edramatica.com is currently the only one that is online. There is also a problem with ] due to unsuitable material on the main page (harassment, ] etc).--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 17:58, 19 November 2024 (UTC) |
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::I'm not sure why the user keeps deleting this as it answered the question and it's useful for other editors who might ask the same question. ] (]) 23:01, 19 November 2024 (UTC) |
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:::as of 12/20/24, edramatica.com is down with the "timed out" error, awaiting further information. ] (]) 06:51, 20 December 2024 (UTC) |
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::::IsItDownRightNow says that it has been down for over a week. This means that at the time of writing, the site is not online at all. This isn't a major panic, as ED has been offline for weeks in the past and returned. Watch this space.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 08:23, 20 December 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::Are you checking some other ED mirror? I'm taking about edramatica.com, which was back on the same day it got down, which was 12/20/24. ] (]) 18:43, 21 December 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::I couldn't access edramatica.com yesterday (20 December), but it is back online today. IsItDownRightNow agrees and says "Last down: 1 day 10 hours ago.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 20:42, 21 December 2024 (UTC) |
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== ED Downtime == |
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It has been moved to simply , we have managed to restore the pictures as it was simply an internal problem. The issue with the rivalry between each ED versions is that his ED is "Encyclopedia Dramatica LLC"'s ED. There is something to be known about Encyclopedia Dramatica is that Conrad Rockenhaus previously trademarked ED to prevent Zaiger from making money off of it. |
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Dramatica.online Admin, TabbyGarf. |
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] (]) 19:19, 10 March 2021 (UTC) |
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:edramatica.com is back up. (12/23/24) ] (]) 09:56, 23 December 2024 (UTC) |
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::I'm relaxed about this, as ED's hosting is famously unreliable. It has been offline for days or weeks in the past.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 12:16, 23 December 2024 (UTC) |
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:Thank you for your input. As is the case with the administrator of the .wiki version, the state of the competing sites isn't in the equation, other than if either is a dead link. For now, we should keep both accounted for, without censoring either over the on-site inner-workings. ''']'''<sub> (]•])</sub> 22:21, 10 March 2021 (UTC) |
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:::Sorry for the long delay, edramatica.com was back up the next day. ] (]) 09:06, 28 December 2024 (UTC) |
Yes, the .top version is now offline so it didn't last very long. It is unclear why this has happened and the site faces another period of uncertainty. ♦IanMacM♦ 07:29, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
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