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== Inclusion of this page in the alt-right categories == |
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Just like ] (its news counterpart), ED is riddled with tons of neofascism, holocaust denialism, antisemitism, racism, and many more that they share in common. Plus, TDS even sponsored ED<ref>{{cite web |title=Encyclopedia Dramatica |url=https://twitter.com/EDdotSE/status/875552997631299586 |website=Twitter |accessdate=31 July 2018}}</ref>. |
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Right now, the article only talks about it being a meme or satire page, but they are one of those platforms that disguise honest hatred as "parody", and, it is one of the alt-right platforms besides TDS that motivated ]. |
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I could not cite anything besides the Twitter post, because ED is on the spam blacklist. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">— Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) </small> |
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::While after long-term and considered research I believe some of ED's attacks on Misplaced Pages to be based on wrong-think, and personal vendetta that may not be correct. It seems wrong to characterise parody as if it were genuinely hate speech. This only so far as my research has got at the moment, so am open to criticism. ] (]) 22:26, 10 January 2019 (UTC) |
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ED doesn't target specific groups but rather tries to offend as many people as possible in general. There's no discrimination involved and therefore I don't think it's fair to equate them to people who are actually prejudiced. ] (]) 20:44, 7 January 2020 (UTC) |
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== August 2019 outage == |
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The site has been down for several days, but it is hard to say why without reliable sourcing. is a screenshot of the current state of play on the site. This suggests looking at the , and this tweeted on "As you might have noticed. We're down again. Hold on until we sort our shit with our frontend providers..." This looks like some hosting problem again, but it may be too early to say that the site is gone forever.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 05:27, 30 August 2019 (UTC) |
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:Given what happened with 8Chan earlier this month this can’t be a coincidence. ] (]) 11:44, 30 August 2019 (UTC) |
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== June 2024 == |
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::We know from reliable news coverage that ] pulled the plug on ]. It may be that a similar plug has been pulled on ED, but there is no confirmation of this. The reason why I reverted is because the official ED Twitter account does not explain why the site is offline, it just says that the site is offline.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 12:02, 30 August 2019 (UTC) |
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Yes, the .top version is now offline so it didn't last very long. It is unclear why this has happened and the site faces another period of uncertainty. '''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 07:29, 9 June 2024 (UTC) |
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===And back up again=== |
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Re : it is correct that the site is back up again with the .se domain. However, this is not yet mentioned on the official Twitter feed. There is some info which may explain what the problem was.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 15:00, 7 October 2019 (UTC) |
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:It's back, and according to the Dramatica forum, "] suspended the domain." So off we go with a new domain, with .top holding the record for the shortest tenure at less than a month.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 18:02, 9 June 2024 (UTC) |
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== Call it what it is? == |
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::Re . ED currently has two domains, edramatica.com which was registered on 9 June 2024, and dramatica.wtf which was registered on 13 May 2024 and is also being used for the forums. Since edramatica.com seems to be the main address and dramatica.wtf is a mirror, the article should give edramatica.com as the address per ].--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 10:00, 10 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::Re : edramatica.com is down at the moment, but it is unclear whether this is a temporary blip or something more serious.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 15:28, 17 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:Encyclopedia Dramatica (often abbreviated ED and æ) is a parody-themed wiki website launched on December 10, 2004, that uses MediaWiki software to lampoon encyclopedia topics and current events, especially those related or relevant to contemporary Internet culture. |
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::::I'm an ED regular, and I saw it go down live. When it went down, edramatica.com was replaced with a page that said, "So Don't Do That Then... (This domain has been terminated for abuse)", so I think it's safe to believe that edramatica.com has been suspended by EasyDNS. ] (]) 17:23, 17 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::Thanks, there have been persistent claims in the past few weeks that domain registrars are unhappy with some of the content on ED. Freedom of speech is one thing, deliberate harassment and defamation of living people is another. Since this is all part of the fun (cough, cough) at ED, it leaves them with the difficult task of finding a new domain and web host.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 18:07, 17 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*And thanks to the wonders of the ], we can see the termination message . It does indeed say "So Don't Do That Then... (This domain has been terminated for abuse)" as a message from ], complete with a dead skeleton pirate. At this rate ED will end up as a ] only, because no domain will have them.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 18:18, 17 June 2024 (UTC) |
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*:The forums at also seem to be down, as all I get is an error message saying "Page could not be loaded". (On other devices I tried, the website won't even load at all and just says "DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN") ] (]) 22:37, 17 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:They are now on encyclopediadramatica.gay, which was registered with ] on 17 June 2024. So let's see how long this lasts, they have had three new domains in little over a month.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 07:01, 18 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::That might not be the wisest choice, per the ] section of the ] article. I don't know, we'll just have to wait and see how long this one will last for. ] (]) 11:57, 18 June 2024 (UTC) |
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:::OT, but i'm surprised to see ED able to registed the .gay domain at all. ] (]) 11:20, 26 June 2024 (UTC) |
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::The .gay website now redirects to edramatica.com, which is working again. ] (]) 22:34, 25 August 2024 (UTC) |
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===.win domain=== |
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No it's not, it's an alt-right, neofascist, incel driven, misogynistic hate farm. As per ] why is not labelled as such? |
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Re : It's true that the site is up and running at .win, but it is also up and running at .gay at the time of writing. This leads to a problem with ] as usually only one URL is given.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 07:01, 16 July 2024 (UTC) |
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:.gay is the current official domain and hosts both the Encyclopedia Dramatica Forums and the wiki. .win is an unauthorized copy of the site that was made by a disgruntled former wiki sysop. The .win site doesn't even have a forum because the guy who runs it never even had a copy of the forum database (although he tried to beg the owner of .gay for the database). |
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:No one of any importance from .online or any of the previous domains is using .win, they are all on .gay. ] (]) 00:40, 19 July 2024 (UTC) |
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What on earth does "parody-themed" even mean? Where is the parody in both justifying and then mocking the ]? |
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::The main pages of .gay and .win are different, so they are not a complete mirror. Also, .win does not have the forums which are only on .gay. So it does look like .win is an unofficial mirror and not endorsed by the people at .gay.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 07:12, 21 July 2024 (UTC) |
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This site is a platform for right-wing polemic and hate speech. |
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: Those are 'very interesting' one sided comments by both editors, hmmm, but above statement makes no sense if some ver is accepted or not... .win has more articles, also .win has more quality videos... ] (]) 16:33, 21 July 2024 (UTC) |
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Ten years ago, its focus might have been "parody-themed", however, open any article on this site today and it's patently obvious the authors of these pages are neo Nazis. |
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::I'm not going to get drawn into an argument over which is the better or more official version, but they are not serving exactly the same content and .win does not have the forum pages.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 16:39, 21 July 2024 (UTC) |
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Is the logic of this page to take the POV that any website which possibly hosts a few "funny" pages gets a pass from being labelled "alt-right" because, with a few neutral pages, it can be argued there are "very fine people on both sides" writing this site? |
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:It would seem that .win is down for the count, leaving edramatica.com as the sole host of the property. The circle of life continues... ''']'''<sub> (]•])</sub> 16:02, 27 September 2024 (UTC) |
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Almost all content on this site is pro-authoritarian, anti-free speech (ironic considering it needs free speech to spout hate), anti-intellectual, anti-abortion, and pro climate change denial. |
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::It's hard to keep up with this, but at the time of writing, .gay is completely offline, while .win has a page saying "It's over - for now... Due to reasons that shall not be disclosed I will not be able to run encyclopediadramatica.win anymore - at least all on my own." This means that edramatica.com is the only working version at the moment, and thankfully we no longer have to listen to arguments about whether .win or .gay is the better version, because both of them are unavailable now.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 16:15, 27 September 2024 (UTC) |
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:::{{Reply|ianmacm}} I'm beginning to get concerned about the quality of the article, as the list of domains & owners is becoming too unwieldy for the infobox. We should probably find a way to truncate it. ''']'''<sub> (]•])</sub> 17:22, 27 September 2024 (UTC) |
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::::Agreed, I'm not sure that the infobox needs to list all of the domains that are now defunct.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 17:41, 27 September 2024 (UTC) |
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== no link? == |
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This is not ] this is ]. The POV on this page is like saying Hitler was an {{large|artist}} and not a {{small|Nazi}} because he once painted pictures. This website might have been "parody-themed" once but it is certainly not now, and continuing to claim that it is, just smacks of someone pushing their agenda as it's an unjustifiable ]. ] (]) 18:49, 27 September 2019 (UTC) |
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why is there no link? ] (]) 17:47, 19 November 2024 (UTC) |
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:The ] already makes clear that the site contains material likely to be found sexist, racist and offensive. This comes from what ] have said about the site.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 06:35, 28 September 2019 (UTC) |
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:There have been so many ups and downs in 2024 that it is hard to keep track of them all. However, the article is correct that edramatica.com is currently the only one that is online. There is also a problem with ] due to unsuitable material on the main page (harassment, ] etc).--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 17:58, 19 November 2024 (UTC) |
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== Should I link the website? == |
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::I'm not sure why the user keeps deleting this as it answered the question and it's useful for other editors who might ask the same question. ] (]) 23:01, 19 November 2024 (UTC) |
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:::as of 12/20/24, edramatica.com is down with the "timed out" error, awaiting further information. ] (]) 06:51, 20 December 2024 (UTC) |
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::::IsItDownRightNow says that it has been down for over a week. This means that at the time of writing, the site is not online at all. This isn't a major panic, as ED has been offline for weeks in the past and returned. Watch this space.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 08:23, 20 December 2024 (UTC) |
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:::::Are you checking some other ED mirror? I'm taking about edramatica.com, which was back on the same day it got down, which was 12/20/24. ] (]) 18:43, 21 December 2024 (UTC) |
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::::::I couldn't access edramatica.com yesterday (20 December), but it is back online today. IsItDownRightNow agrees and says "Last down: 1 day 10 hours ago.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 20:42, 21 December 2024 (UTC) |
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== ED Downtime == |
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Is it okay to link the website in the side bar? ] (]) 23:29, 11 January 2020 (UTC) |
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edramatica.com is down again. |
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:The edit will not save if you do this. ED is on the at <code>\bencyclopediadramatica\.+?\b</code>. In plain language, this prevents encyclopediadramatica dot anything from saving.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 08:28, 12 January 2020 (UTC) |
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(12/23/24) ] (]) 06:49, 23 December 2024 (UTC) |
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:edramatica.com is back up. (12/23/24) ] (]) 09:56, 23 December 2024 (UTC) |
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:{{rto|New3400}} The general approach here on en.wikipedia is to whitelist and link to a neutral landing page like an about page. That works for most website, but ED found it necessary to also extend their abuse through their about-page. --] <sup>] ]</sup> 08:40, 12 January 2020 (UTC) |
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::Indeed, who knows what naughtiness and ] problems might occur if a direct link was allowed.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 08:42, 12 January 2020 (UTC) |
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::I'm relaxed about this, as ED's hosting is famously unreliable. It has been offline for days or weeks in the past.--'''''] <sup>]</sup>''''' 12:16, 23 December 2024 (UTC) |
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:::Sorry for the long delay, edramatica.com was back up the next day. ] (]) 09:06, 28 December 2024 (UTC) |
Yes, the .top version is now offline so it didn't last very long. It is unclear why this has happened and the site faces another period of uncertainty. ♦IanMacM♦ 07:29, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
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