Misplaced Pages

User talk:PamD: Difference between revisions

Article snapshot taken from Wikipedia with creative commons attribution-sharealike license. Give it a read and then ask your questions in the chat. We can research this topic together.
Browse history interactively← Previous editContent deleted Content addedVisualWikitext
Revision as of 06:40, 28 October 2024 editPamD (talk | contribs)Autopatrolled, Extended confirmed users, New page reviewers, Pending changes reviewers, Rollbackers205,999 edits Foyles Book of the Year: ReplyTags: Mobile edit Mobile app edit Android app edit App talk reply← Previous edit Latest revision as of 17:51, 28 December 2024 edit undoMediaWiki message delivery (talk | contribs)Bots3,134,948 edits Women in Red January 2025: new sectionTag: MassMessage delivery 
(50 intermediate revisions by 14 users not shown)
Line 46: Line 46:
{{center|{{Clickable button 2|Special:RandomInCategory/All articles lacking sources|Fix a random page lacking sources|class=mw-ui-progressive}}|style=margin:1em}}] (])15:39, 2 February 2024 ] <span class="plainlinks" style="font-size:85%;">]</span>{{small|via JWB and ] (])}} {{center|{{Clickable button 2|Special:RandomInCategory/All articles lacking sources|Fix a random page lacking sources|class=mw-ui-progressive}}|style=margin:1em}}] (])15:39, 2 February 2024 ] <span class="plainlinks" style="font-size:85%;">]</span>{{small|via JWB and ] (])}}


== Short Decent Stubs == == Nominating for deletion ==


== ] of ] ==
Hello @]how are you? I remembered you helped me with my first published page :-) Thank you.
]


The article ] has been ]&#32;because of the following concern:
You also said you made short decent stubs of topics and I wondered if there was a video tutorial on how to do this? I get come across lots of useful topics during my writing work but I don't have the time to do full pages.
<blockquote>'''Unreferenced and unimproved almost 15 years. No reliable sources online Google news, newspapers, books, or scholar. Run of the mill, very small village. Not enough information to merge.'''</blockquote>


While all constructive contributions to Misplaced Pages are appreciated, pages may be ].
It is really frustrating! ] (]) 09:31, 22 September 2024 (UTC)


You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{Tlc|proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your ] or on ].
:Hallo again @]. I can't think of any particular tutorial (there may be good stuff out there but I'm not familiar with it all), but a few key points, apart from the stuff I said before, would be:
:* Check thoroughly that there isn't already an article on the topic. Check variant names you find in any sources. Even if you're going to start the article in draft, act as if you're going to start it in mainspace and look to see whether any message pops up about it being deleted in the past - sometimes it'll be because AfD decided it wasn't notable, but other times because the person who started it was then blocked as a sockpuppet, or because it was entirely Copyright theft, leaving it free to be re-created. It can be useful to follow the "What links here" link too, to see if it's been discussed anywhere, or linked from other articles.
:*If there is already an article at the title you want to use, work out how to disambiguate the new one, by adding "(writer)" or whatever.
:*Be sure that the topic satisfies ]. Some categories of topics are more-or-less automatically notable, like members of a national parliament etc (SEE ]) or legally-recognised populated places; there are special rules for academics at ]; and so on.
:*Be sure you have at least 2, preferably 3, ]. These don't have to be online, eg if you have a book in front of you or a newspaper clipping which shows the newspaper, date and page as well as the article title, but online sources are popular as they can be more easily verified.
:*If you meet the criteria, use for access to all sorts of wonderful online sources.
:*Even just for a stub, remember to make clear in the first sentence why we should be interested in the topic: "X (dates) is a Y-ish Z" and their main claim to notability.
:*Actually, something you might find helpful is the template I use, at ] - I use it to remind myself of the basic infrastructure. "In use" stays for the duration of the editing session, and "Under construction" for up to a week if still working on it. Just copy and paste that outline, and it'll be a start.
:*And write. Use surname only, after the lead; source everything; tell us why she/he or it is notable. Remember it's an international encyclopedia, so main placenames need initially to specify "England", and terms like "BBC" aren't necessarily obvious to the reader.
:*If the article would benefit from an infobox, find a good article on the same sort of topic and see which of the umpteen "Infobox" templates has been used there, then follow.
:*Edit carefully, check that all the links go where you expect them to (and not to a disambiguation page, or a footballer where you're expecting a physicist, or whatever), read through for typos, check that punctuation is in front of references, that you haven't used "curly" quotes/apostrophes, etc
:*And create a basic talk page with a couple of relevant WikiProject banners, including the appropriate Women in Red one (if nothing specific, then WIR|293 for "#1day1woman".
:*Make incoming redirects from all plausible versions of the name (married / middle / versions found in sources), to help readers and to help prevent someone else from creating a duplicate. If at this point you find a duplicate, and it's definitely the same person, then stop. Add your new content, if any, to that article. If you're convinced it's at the wrong title, then suggest a move using ]. Don't copy and paste anyone else's work to a new title. The first-created article takes precedence, even if it's poorly-written and at the wrong title.
:*If your title has a disambiguation, like "(writer)", then be sure that it is listed at the basic title, whether this is by adding or expanding a hatnote, adding an entry on a talk page, or if need be creating a new disambiguation page. By whatever means, you need to make sure that the reader looking for the topic will be able to find it!
:Well, I hope some of that lot helps - rather random jottings while listening to the Sunday omnibus of '']''! Happy Editing! ]] 11:06, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
::Looking at your user page : I see you're a professional "content creator", so you need to be familiar with Misplaced Pages's rules about ] and ], if you're considering editing for pay.
::I see also that you've marked a lot of contributions as "minor", although sometimes they include adding new text as . Some editors get very upset about that: minor is supposed to be only very, very, minor: slight formatting changes, very obvious typo fix, etc. See ] for more info. I don't bother marking anything as "minor", myself. ]] 11:16, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
:::Hello again @] yes I know about the paid for content ethics and agree whole-heartedly with them. I've been a sporadic Wikipedian! I love the project so much :-) It makes me really happy being an editor on here too. A real delight to see some little fact appear and help in my own small way to the knowledge bank. I hope to be able to do more when I'm old and stuck in front of the fire! Hope The Archers was good! I'm more of a desert island discs person at the moment. Thanks for the note on minor contributions. Will never mark anything as a minor edit from now... ] (]) 11:27, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
::Hi @] thanks for all this. Hopefully I will be able to contribute a bit more in smaller chunks :-) ] (]) 11:22, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
::PS Just having a good look at this and the bio stub starter is really useful, thanks @] ] (]) 18:12, 24 September 2024 (UTC)


Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{Tlc|proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the ], but other ]es exist. In particular, the ] process can result in deletion without discussion, and ] allows discussion to reach ] for deletion.<!-- Template:Proposed deletion notify --> ] (]) 02:50, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
== Improving user page ==


:{{ping|Bearian}} I only stub-sorted it, 15 years ago, but have risen to the challenge and found coords and a couple of sources; the presence of another Veliki Rit in Serbia helps justify the existence of this little stub, to avoid confusion. ]] 09:17, 27 November 2024 (UTC)
Thank you for showing me how to add revision links to my user page! That was fun. Do I need to secure my user page from vandalism? ] (]) 23:01, 23 September 2024 (UTC)


== Women in Red December 2024 ==
:{{ping|Allthemilescombined1}} No, unless you find it becomes a target for vandalism in which case you could ask for protection. Personally I don't see why unregistered or unconfirmed users are allowed to edit anyone's user page, but it rarely happens. ]] 20:45, 26 September 2024 (UTC)

== ''The Signpost'': 26 September 2024 ==

<div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"><div style="column-count:2;"> {{Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2024-09-26}} </div><!--Volume 20, Issue 13--> <div class="hlist" style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"> * ''']''' * ] * ] * ] (]) 20:10, 26 September 2024 (UTC) <!-- Sent via script (]) --></div></div>
<!-- Message sent by User:JPxG@enwiki using the list at https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:Wikipedia_Signpost/Subscribe&oldid=1247736176 -->

== Women in Red October 2024 ==


{| style="border: 5px solid #ABCDEF ; background-color: #FFFFFF;" {| style="border: 5px solid #ABCDEF ; background-color: #FFFFFF;"
|rowspan="2" style="vertical-align:middle;" | |rowspan="2" style="vertical-align:middle;" |
|rowspan="2" | |rowspan="2" |
|style="padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;" | ]'''<big>]</big>''' <big>|</big> <small>October 2024, Volume 10, Issue 10, Numbers 293, 294, 318, 319, 320</small> |style="padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;" | ]'''<big>]</big>''' <big>|</big> <small>December 2024, Vol 10, Issue 12, Nos 293, 294, 324, 325 </small>
<br /> <br />


'''Online events:''' '''Online events:'''
* ''New'': ] <big>|</big> ] <big>|</big> ] * ''New'': ] <big>|</big> ]


* ''Continuing'': ] <big>|</big> ] <small>(year-long initiative)</small> * ''Continuing'': ] <big>|</big> ] <small>(year-long initiative)</small>
'''Announcements from other communities''' '''Announcements from other communities'''
* ] have a monthly virtual edit-a-thon and the next session is<br> December 2nd 4:00 - 5:00 p.m. CST. For Zoom meeting details, contact ] or<br> ]. ] members are welcome to join the Zoom Meeting
* October is Women in Green's "]" Good Article Edit-a-thon

'''Tip of the month:''' '''Tip of the month:'''
* ''Think of rewarding contributors, especially newcomers, with a ].''
* ''Unsure how to expand a stub article? Take a look at ]''


'''Other ways to participate:''' '''Other ways to participate:'''
Line 114: Line 90:
] ]
|} |}
--] (] 08:07, 29 September 2024 (UTC) via MassMessaging --] (] 18:46, 29 November 2024 (UTC) via MassMessaging
<!-- Message sent by User:Lajmmoore@enwiki using the list at https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Outreach/O-Z&oldid=1247733137 --> <!-- Message sent by User:Lajmmoore@enwiki using the list at https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Outreach/O-Z&oldid=1260022450 -->
== "]" listed at ] ==
]
The redirect <span class="plainlinks"></span> has been listed at ] to determine whether its use and function meets the ]. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at '''{{slink|Misplaced Pages:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 September 30#The center for teaching and learning}}''' until a consensus is reached. <!-- Template:RFDNote --> ] (]) 17:23, 30 September 2024 (UTC)


== ] == == In appreciation ==


{| style="border: 2px solid {{{border|#8000FF}}}; background-color: {{{color|#FFFAF0}}};" |
Hello PamD. Would you be happy to give me some assistance here please: ] Thanks, ] (]) 07:53, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
|rowspan="2" style="vertical-align:middle;" | ]
:... and see here ] for context. ] (]) 07:55, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
|rowspan="2" |
::I've tried! There seems to be a history of getting things not quite right around Zonca. ]] 11:12, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;" | '''The Good Article Rescue Barnstar'''
:::Many thanks. ] (]) 12:06, 6 October 2024 (UTC)
|-
|style="vertical-align: middle; border-top: 2px solid gray;" | This is presented to you by ] in recognition of your sterling work in helping ] retain its Good Article status. Please feel free to display the GA icon on your userpage. Keep up the good work! ] (]) 23:30, 5 December 2024 (UTC)
|}
==] nomination of ]==
]


A tag has been placed on ] indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a ], a ], under discussion at ], or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under ].
== Elder Wikipedians ==


If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may '''contest the nomination''' by ] and removing the speedy deletion tag. <!-- Template:Db-catempty-notice --> <!-- Template:Db-csd-notice-custom --> <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 20:34, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
]]]
==] nomination of ]==
My proposal to make extensive changes to ] was a bust, primarily because many users felt that the term "Senior Wikipedian" implied a higher ranking Misplaced Pages membership. Therefore, I am making two less ambitious proposals:
]


A tag has been placed on ] indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a ], a ], under discussion at ], or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under ].
:Proposal #1. Change the name of "WikiProject Wikipedians aged 70 and older" to "]".
:Proposal #2. Drop the minimum age requirement to 60&nbsp;years.


If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may '''contest the nomination''' by ] and removing the speedy deletion tag. <!-- Template:Db-catempty-notice --> <!-- Template:Db-csd-notice-custom --> <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 20:34, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
Please respond to ] and let us know what you think of each of these proposals.<br/>Thank you, ]<span style="font-size:75%;vertical-align:middle;"> ] ]</span>
==] nomination of ]==
]


A tag has been placed on ] indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a ], a ], under discussion at ], or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under ].
<span style="font-size:75%;line-height:0em;";>If you don't wish to receive any further information about Elder Wikipedians, please remove your username from our '''{{nobreak|]}}'''. Thanks.</span>
{{clear}}
] (]) 00:32, 12 October 2024 (UTC)
<!-- Message sent by User:DreamRimmer@enwiki using the list at https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:WikiProject_Wikipedians_aged_70_and_older/Notice_list&oldid=1250694559 -->


If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may '''contest the nomination''' by ] and removing the speedy deletion tag. <!-- Template:Db-catempty-notice --> <!-- Template:Db-csd-notice-custom --> <span style="font-family:Papyrus; color:#800080;">]</span> <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">] ]</sup> 20:34, 6 December 2024 (UTC)
== Asking for help ==


== Adminship? ==
I'm a beginner on Misplaced Pages and my article was nominated for deletion. Could you please help me? I put some effort into it. I tried my best to meet the Misplaced Pages's Guidelines.
Here's the discussion:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Jamila_Musayeva ] (]) 09:47, 16 October 2024 (UTC)


Hi PamD, I recognize that you have been asked many times before, but I'm hoping your answer may have changed in the last few years: would you consider running for adminship? With a record as long and as spotless as yours I expect you would have a very smooth RFA. I would gladly write a nomination - though it may be superfluous in your case - and I imagine a good many others would, too. Even if you only used the tools to deal with things you would otherwise have left to an admin, it would be of considerable benefit, given your activity levels. Best, ] (]) 01:17, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
== ''The Signpost'': 19 October 2024 ==


:@] Thank you for your expression of confidence. Yes, I've been asked a few times over the years, but I really very rarely find there are things I can't do as a non-admin (the occasional move over an existing redirect with a history, etc), and I'd rather not take on the responsibility of feeling that I ought to be doing proper admin stuff, rather than gnoming around the encyclopedia improving or creating random articles as the spirit takes me. So I'll continue without a mop, just helping out as and when I see a need or find an interest, like ] (inspired by ]).
<div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"><div style="column-count:2;"> {{Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2024-10-19}} </div><!--Volume 20, Issue 14--> <div class="hlist" style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"> * ''']''' * ] * ] * ] (]) 11:15, 19 October 2024 (UTC) <!-- Sent via script (]) --></div></div>
:I think I would also find it a worry to have to think "Am I using an admin power incorrectly here" when implementing my own choices, and am happier to leave it well alone. And yes, I sometimes feel guilty when I read about the shrinking corps of Admins, but we're all here as volunteers and I choose to contribute in my own way, selfishly. Maybe, if ever we get the house sorted out after a move 15 months ago, and if I catch up on my piles of un-managed domestic paperwork, I might reconsider. But thanks, anyway. ]] 10:05, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
<!-- Message sent by User:JPxG@enwiki using the list at https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:Wikipedia_Signpost/Subscribe&oldid=1252022219 -->
::I appreciate the detailed explanation. I would be very pleased if you reconsidered at some point, and my offer remains open. Best regards, ] (]) 16:43, 12 December 2024 (UTC)


== ''The Signpost'': 12 December 2024 ==
== Louise Glover ==


<div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"><div style="-moz-column-count:2; -webkit-column-count:2; column-count:2;"> {{Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2024-12-12}} </div><!--Volume 20, Issue 17, manually published--> <div class="hlist" style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"> * ''']''' * ] * ] * ] (]) 21:58, 12 December 2024 (UTC) </div></div>
I don't think you understand ]. I realized almost all of the "multiple references" used were, in fact, the same article posted without credit throughout the internet (so, functionally, the same reference). I found an article that at least appears to give credit, and used that in a way that made it transparent that it was the same article/reference. ] ] ] 13:46, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
<!-- Message sent by User:Bri@enwiki using the list at https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:Wikipedia_Signpost/Subscribe&oldid=1262352523 -->


== Seasons Greetings!==
:@] But if you reduce it all to one local paper, "Former nude Playboy model and Loughton resident ...", it gives a very different impression. And not all the detail is present in each version: the first ref (though its date looks dubious, I admit) is the one which gives detail of the two previous incidents. Given that someone wants to delete the article altogether, making this section appear as if "only the local paper covered it, no wider interest" seems a step to the section being deleted completely. The very fact of coverage in several sources (Mirror, Sky, and two separate articles in the Brighton paper), seems significant. ]] 13:56, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
::@] The AfD is over now. The article isn't getting deleted. if the section were deleted, it might actually be more compliant with the BLP policy, anyways. The first article having dubious is actually a reason to not use it. ] ] ] 14:04, 23 October 2024 (UTC)
:: @] In regard to that section though, is the subject of the article really still a high-profile individual? I agree that notability has been established. But, if the subject is low-profile, then only information directly relevant to their notability should be included per the BLP guidelines. The criminal convictions aren't relevant to their original reason for notability. They may have been a high-profile individual at the time, but that can change. "Many Misplaced Pages articles contain material on people who are not well known, regardless of whether they are notable enough for their own article. In such cases, exercise restraint and include only material relevant to the person's notability, focusing on high-quality secondary sources." and "Material that may adversely affect a person's reputation should be treated with special care". ] (]) 15:35, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
:::@] I guess I take a more moderate approach, in that a few, well-sourced sentences about a criminal conviction at the end of an article isn't going to tarnish Glovers' reputation enough to justify a potentially prolonged argument. We could, potentially, even go down to one sentence: "Glover was convicted of assaulting a DJ. " After all, the assault and resulting criminal issues did happen, and it's not defamation to point that out.
:::The problem is the apparent determination that ''any'' shortening of the article could very well result in the deletion of it. On a website where stubbification is not a form of deletion but rather an alternative to deletion*, that doesn't make sense.
:::(*As an aside, I'm surprised stubbification isn't listed on ]. I've used it as an alternative to deletion several times; basically, a milder form of ]). ] ] ] 17:26, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
::::@] {{ping|Svenska356}}, this discussion should be visible to all on the article's talk page not scattered around many User talk pages. But I'm surprised that editors trying to minimise the negative aspects of her story haven't done much to include the positive ( a chunk of which was recently removed). I had a go this morning. ]] 17:52, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
:::::Good point. Maybe we should continue on Talk:Louise Glover and link to the other discussions. ] ] ] 17:55, 24 October 2024 (UTC)
:::::@] I agree that it should be added to the talk page. Sorry, that was my bad in terms of my attempted addition. I am not too experienced when it comes to doing that. <!-- Template:Unsigned --><small class="autosigned">—&nbsp;Preceding ] comment added by ] (] • ]) 12:24, 25 October 2024 (UTC)</small>
::::::''Context to above post: this entire section had been copied and pasted to ] with no explanation to show that it was not native to that page: I reverted. ]] 14:32, 25 October 2024 (UTC)''


<div style="border-style:solid; border-color:#FF4646; background-color:#00A86B; border-width:2px; text-align:left; padding:7px; border-radius:1em; box-shadow: 0.1em 0.1em 0.5em rgba(0,0,0,0.75);;" class="plainlinks">]]{{-}}
== Nominating for deletion ==
{{white|{{big|'''''Hello there, 'tis the season again, believe it or not, the years pass so quickly now! A big thank you for all of your contributions to Misplaced Pages in 2024! Wishing you a Very Merry Christmas and here's to a happy and productive 2025! ♦ ] 08:53, 15 December 2024 (UTC)'''''}}}}
</div>


== New pages patrol January 2025 Backlog drive ==
== Nomination of ] for deletion ==
<div class="afd-notice">
<div class="floatleft" style="margin-bottom:0;">]</div>A discussion is taking place as to whether the article ] is suitable for inclusion in Misplaced Pages according to ] or whether it should be ].


{| style="border: 2px solid #36c; border-radius: 4px; background: linear-gradient(to right, #ffffff, #eaf3ff); padding: 10px; color: #000;"
The article will be discussed at ''']''' until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
| style="vertical-align: middle; font-size: 130%" | ] | <span style="font-size: 85%">''']''' </span>
| rowspan=3 | ]
|-
|
* On 1 January 2025, a one-month backlog drive for new pages patrol will begin in hopes of addressing the growing backlog.
* Barnstars will be awarded based on the number of articles and redirects patrolled.
* Each article review will earn 1 point, while each redirect review will earn 0.2 points.
* ] will be given out based on consistently hitting point thresholds for each week of the drive.
* Barnstars will also be granted for ] previously reviewed by other patrollers during the drive.
* Interested in taking part? ''']'''.
|-
|colspan=2 style="font-size:85%; padding-top:15px;"|You're receiving this message because you are a new page patroller. To opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself ]
|}
] (]) 01:53, 18 December 2024 (UTC)
<!-- Message sent by User:DreamRimmer@enwiki using the list at https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:New_pages_patrol/Reviewers/Newsletter_list&oldid=1263150419 -->
==Orphaned non-free image File:Lancashire Police &#38; Crime Commissioner, Clive Grunshaw.png==
] Thanks for uploading ''']'''. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Misplaced Pages under a ]. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Misplaced Pages. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Misplaced Pages (see ]).


Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished.<!-- Template:Afd notice --></div> ] (]) 19:15, 24 October 2024 (UTC) Note that any non-free images not used in any '''articles''' will be deleted after seven days, as described in ]. Thank you.<!-- Template:Di-orphaned non-free use-notice --> --] (]) 04:00, 24 December 2024 (UTC)


:Police commissioner logo changes per commissioner, so this has been superseded. ]] 08:12, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
== Centenary Action page ==


== Happy holidays! ==
Hi Pam.


{| style="background-color: #fdffe7; border: 1px solid #fceb92;"
Any help you could give with the ] page would be really appreciated. Someone in California seems to have taken exception to it, but it is a genuine campaigning organisation to increase female representation in parliament. I have tried to update the references according to guidelines, and it would be great if those notices could be removed.
|rowspan="2" style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 5px;" | ]
|style="font-size: x-large; padding: 3px 3px 0 3px; height: 1.5em;" | '''Happy holidays!'''
|-
|style="vertical-align: middle; padding: 3px;" | Wishing you a Merry Christmas filled with love and joy, a Happy Holiday season surrounded by warmth and laughter, and a New Year brimming with hope, happiness, and success! 🎄🎉✨ ] (]) 10:34, 24 December 2024 (UTC)
|}


== ''The Signpost'': 24 December 2024 ==
If you are not able to help but could point me towards someone who could, that would be great.


<div lang="en" dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr"><div style="column-count:2;"> {{Misplaced Pages:Misplaced Pages Signpost/2024-12-24}} </div><!--Volume 20, Issue 18--> <div class="hlist" style="margin-top:10px; font-size:90%; padding-left:5px; font-family:Georgia, Palatino, Palatino Linotype, Times, Times New Roman, serif;"> * ''']''' * ] * ] * ] (]) 00:02, 25 December 2024 (UTC) <!-- Sent via script (]) --></div></div>
@] ] (]) 11:03, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
<!-- Message sent by User:JPxG@enwiki using the list at https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:Wikipedia_Signpost/Subscribe&oldid=1263792399 -->


== Women in Red January 2025 ==
:@] In the interest of full transparency, I'm watching this talk page and am the "person from California" you're talking about. ] ] ] 15:14, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
:@] I'm not clear, looking at the article, whether "Centenary Action" and "Centenary Action Group" are the same thing. Is it an organisation of individuals, or an joining-together of many organisations?
:The sections on "Campaign successes" and "Media coverage" are, to be honest, a mess. Take the first one: you've linked a chunk of text as an external link, that isn't how it's done. You've duplicated the same link as a reference. That ref supports the fact that IPSA makes provision for parental leave, certainly. But it doesn't mention Centenary Action. There is nothing to support the fact that CA had anything to do with this. You need to find references in ] (ie not CA's own website or publications) which explicitly state that it was campaigning by CA which led, at least in part, to the change. And the same for all your other points in those two sections.
:Yes, I'm sure CA is a good and worthy group fighting a necessary battle, but this article hasn't yet got much evidence of the coverage in ] which is needed for it to be a worthy encyclopedia article. That's why I suggested "Draftifying" it: putting it into the "Draft" space so that you and other editors could polish it up, add sources etc, without it being vulnerable to deletion as being inadequately sourced to show notability. Whether by editors from across the pond or not.
:Here's one article, for a start:
::{{cite news|url=https://www.stylist.co.uk/visible-women/womens-representation-politics-uk-mps-sexism-culture/184336 | work=] | title=Toxic culture is “actively putting women off” entering politics, say campaigners | first=Moya | last=Crockett | date=2017 | access-date=25 October 2024}}
:]] 15:57, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
::@] There's also the issue of ]. Somewhere along the way you said that some text you had added to the article which was removed as copyright was OK because it had been added by the person who'd written it on their site (or words to that effect: I'm not going to chase up to find just where). That suggests that you are a volunteer or employee of CA, if you are writing their website. Please clarify your relationship to the organisation, after reading ] and ]. Thanks. ]] 16:02, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
:::Pam,
:::I think Kps2015 said the thing about the copyright at the AfD. And thanks, I've been trying to point to notability policies (which, more or less, boil down to reliable sourcing). I'm okay with draftification, but ] technically disallows unilaterally moving an article to draftspace more than once (''maaaybe'' even if the person doing is has a COI? It's hard to tell). My intuition tells me this would be unilaterally moved back if I did that, anyways, so it's not worth my time. ] ] ] 17:13, 25 October 2024 (UTC)


{| style="border: 5px solid #ABCDEF ; background-color: #FFFFFF;"
== Foyles Book of the Year ==
|rowspan="2" style="vertical-align:middle;" |
|rowspan="2" |
|style="padding: 0; vertical-align: middle; height: 1.1em;" | ] ]'''<big>]</big>''' <big>|</big> <small>January 2025, Vol 11, Issue 1, Nos 324, 326, 327, 328, 329 </small>
<br />
'''Online events:'''
* ''New'': ] <small>(year-long initiative)</small> <big>|</big> ] <big>|</big> ]
* ''Continuing'': ] <small>(year-long initiative)</small> <big>|</big> ]
'''Announcements from other communities'''
* Celebrate ] on Jan 15, 2025
* Participate in ] Jan 15 – Feb 5, 2025


'''Tip of the month:'''
please add db-author deletion template to this redirect page ].
* Celebrate WiR's 20% achievement by adding <nowiki>{{User:ForsythiaJo/20%Userbox}}</nowiki> to your user page.


'''Other ways to participate:'''
I intend to move Foyles Books of the Year there. The award has been renamed.
* ]. You can always ].

* ].
This might be faster than me doing a formal move request by admins ] (]) 01:26, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
* ] and add any general ideas on developing the project.

* Follow us on social media:
:I meant this redirect page ] (]) 01:27, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
] '''|'''
::@] Any reason why you can't do it yourself? ] ] ] 03:13, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
] '''|'''
:@] Redirects are different and the dba CSD isn't an option. But I've CSD'd it under "required for a noncontroversial move". The page will take some careful editing, to preserve its previous description with 3 awards (archived page needed) while describing current award which seems to be just one novel. ]] 06:40, 28 October 2024 (UTC)
]
|}
--] (] 17:51, 28 December 2024 (UTC) via MassMessaging
<!-- Message sent by User:Lajmmoore@enwiki using the list at https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Misplaced Pages:WikiProject_Women_in_Red/Outreach/O-Z&oldid=1261468023 -->

Latest revision as of 17:51, 28 December 2024

This is PamD's talk page, where you can send her messages and comments.
Archives: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16Auto-archiving period: 31 days 
  • If I have left you a message: please answer on your talk page, as I am watching it.
  • If you leave me a message: I will answer on my talk page, so please add it to your watchlist.
  • Please click here to leave me a new message.
If you leave a new message on this page, I will reply on this page. If you want me to reply elsewhere, tell me why. 12:15 Sunday 29 December 2024 - - - - WELCOME TO MY TALK PAGE

Please click "New section" or "Add" above to leave any new message, and please sign your message (just type ~~~~).

If you leave a message here, I will reply here, to make discussions easier to read. If you really want me to reply elsewhere, tell me a very good reason why I should do so.
If you reply to a message here, please indent (start the line with ":") and sign your message.
If you are discussing any particular page, please provide a link to it - it makes life easier for me and anyone else seeing this page.

Thanks. PamD


Archives


This page has archives. Sections older than 31 days may be automatically archived by Lowercase sigmabot III.

Welcome to the drive!

Welcome, welcome, welcome PamD! I'm glad that you are joining the drive! Please, have a cup of WikiTea, and go cite some articles.

Fix a random page lacking sourcesCactiStaccingCrane (talk)15:39, 2 February 2024 UTC via JWB and Geardona (talk to me?)

Nominating for deletion

Proposed deletion of Veliki Rit, Banat

Notice

The article Veliki Rit, Banat has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Unreferenced and unimproved almost 15 years. No reliable sources online Google news, newspapers, books, or scholar. Run of the mill, very small village. Not enough information to merge.

While all constructive contributions to Misplaced Pages are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the {{proposed deletion/dated}} notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing {{proposed deletion/dated}} will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Bearian (talk) 02:50, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

@Bearian: I only stub-sorted it, 15 years ago, but have risen to the challenge and found coords and a couple of sources; the presence of another Veliki Rit in Serbia helps justify the existence of this little stub, to avoid confusion. PamD 09:17, 27 November 2024 (UTC)

Women in Red December 2024

Women in Red | December 2024, Vol 10, Issue 12, Nos 293, 294, 324, 325


Online events:

Announcements from other communities

Tip of the month:

  • Think of rewarding contributors, especially newcomers, with a barnstar.

Other ways to participate:

Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter/X

--Lajmmoore (talk 18:46, 29 November 2024 (UTC) via MassMessaging

In appreciation

The Good Article Rescue Barnstar
This is presented to you by the GAR process in recognition of your sterling work in helping Ben Nevis retain its Good Article status. Please feel free to display the GA icon on your userpage. Keep up the good work! ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:30, 5 December 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Ambassadors of Luxembourg to Spain

A tag has been placed on Category:Ambassadors of Luxembourg to Spain indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz 20:34, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Ambassadors of Luxembourg to Estonia

A tag has been placed on Category:Ambassadors of Luxembourg to Estonia indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz 20:34, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Ambassadors of Luxembourg to Ukraine

A tag has been placed on Category:Ambassadors of Luxembourg to Ukraine indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz 20:34, 6 December 2024 (UTC)

Adminship?

Hi PamD, I recognize that you have been asked many times before, but I'm hoping your answer may have changed in the last few years: would you consider running for adminship? With a record as long and as spotless as yours I expect you would have a very smooth RFA. I would gladly write a nomination - though it may be superfluous in your case - and I imagine a good many others would, too. Even if you only used the tools to deal with things you would otherwise have left to an admin, it would be of considerable benefit, given your activity levels. Best, Vanamonde93 (talk) 01:17, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

@Vanamonde93 Thank you for your expression of confidence. Yes, I've been asked a few times over the years, but I really very rarely find there are things I can't do as a non-admin (the occasional move over an existing redirect with a history, etc), and I'd rather not take on the responsibility of feeling that I ought to be doing proper admin stuff, rather than gnoming around the encyclopedia improving or creating random articles as the spirit takes me. So I'll continue without a mop, just helping out as and when I see a need or find an interest, like Prestolee (inspired by this).
I think I would also find it a worry to have to think "Am I using an admin power incorrectly here" when implementing my own choices, and am happier to leave it well alone. And yes, I sometimes feel guilty when I read about the shrinking corps of Admins, but we're all here as volunteers and I choose to contribute in my own way, selfishly. Maybe, if ever we get the house sorted out after a move 15 months ago, and if I catch up on my piles of un-managed domestic paperwork, I might reconsider. But thanks, anyway. PamD 10:05, 12 December 2024 (UTC)
I appreciate the detailed explanation. I would be very pleased if you reconsidered at some point, and my offer remains open. Best regards, Vanamonde93 (talk) 16:43, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

The Signpost: 12 December 2024

* Read this Signpost in full * Single-page * Unsubscribe * MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 21:58, 12 December 2024 (UTC)

Seasons Greetings!

Hello there, 'tis the season again, believe it or not, the years pass so quickly now! A big thank you for all of your contributions to Misplaced Pages in 2024! Wishing you a Very Merry Christmas and here's to a happy and productive 2025! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 08:53, 15 December 2024 (UTC)

New pages patrol January 2025 Backlog drive

January 2025 Backlog Drive | New pages patrol
  • On 1 January 2025, a one-month backlog drive for new pages patrol will begin in hopes of addressing the growing backlog.
  • Barnstars will be awarded based on the number of articles and redirects patrolled.
  • Each article review will earn 1 point, while each redirect review will earn 0.2 points.
  • Streak awards will be given out based on consistently hitting point thresholds for each week of the drive.
  • Barnstars will also be granted for re-reviewing articles previously reviewed by other patrollers during the drive.
  • Interested in taking part? Sign up here.
You're receiving this message because you are a new page patroller. To opt-out of future mailings, please remove yourself here.

MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 01:53, 18 December 2024 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Lancashire Police & Crime Commissioner, Clive Grunshaw.png

⚠
Thanks for uploading File:Lancashire Police & Crime Commissioner, Clive Grunshaw.png. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Misplaced Pages under a claim of non-free use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Misplaced Pages. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Misplaced Pages (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in section F5 of the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. --B-bot (talk) 04:00, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Police commissioner logo changes per commissioner, so this has been superseded. PamD 08:12, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

Happy holidays!

Happy holidays!
Wishing you a Merry Christmas filled with love and joy, a Happy Holiday season surrounded by warmth and laughter, and a New Year brimming with hope, happiness, and success! 🎄🎉✨ Baqi:) (talk) 10:34, 24 December 2024 (UTC)

The Signpost: 24 December 2024

* Read this Signpost in full * Single-page * Unsubscribe * MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:02, 25 December 2024 (UTC)

Women in Red January 2025

Women in Red | January 2025, Vol 11, Issue 1, Nos 324, 326, 327, 328, 329


Online events:

Announcements from other communities

Tip of the month:

  • Celebrate WiR's 20% achievement by adding {{User:ForsythiaJo/20%Userbox}} to your user page.

Other ways to participate:

Instagram | Pinterest | Twitter/X

--Lajmmoore (talk 17:51, 28 December 2024 (UTC) via MassMessaging