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| == Requested move of ] == | |||
| * There are many thousands of disambiguation pages. They're all in various states of conformance to the Manual of Style, and they all see different amounts of traffic. Thus, we need a way to: | |||
| ** Systematize, so that we know which disambigs need work and which are done. | |||
| ** Prioritize, so that we can work on the most oft-used pages first, and leave out-of-the-way ones until later. | |||
| --] (]) 03:18, 20 July 2005 (UTC) | |||
| There is a requested move discussion at ] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ] (]) 21:03, 22 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
| :''Post comments here'' | |||
| <small>[doing this manually since RMCloser doesn't give me the option of notifying this project for some reason</small> | |||
| == Requested move at ] == | |||
| * Fixing links to disambigs is mind-numbing. In my experience, after half an hour of fixing links, my head starts to swim and I have to sit and vegetate for a while. If I interrupt my progress periodically to fix pages that obviously have other problems, I can fix about forty pages in that time. To me, that's not satisfactory. It would be nice to have a bot, similar to the one used for the ]. This bot would do three things: | |||
| ] There is a requested move discussion at ] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ] 16:04, 23 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
| *# Identify every page that links to a disambig page (using ] and ]) | |||
| *# Search through each of these pages for every link to a disambig | |||
| *# Generate a link to an edit window in which every one of these links has been suitably marked, maybe like this: <nowiki>]</nowiki>. | |||
| --] (]) 03:18, 20 July 2005 (UTC) | |||
| ==Discussion at ]== | |||
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| ] You are invited to join the discussion at ]. <span class="nowrap">—''']'''</span> <sup class="nowrap">(] • {]•]})</sup> 13:52, 10 December 2024 (UTC)<!-- ] --> | |||
| == Requested move at ] == | |||
| == Scope addition suggested == | |||
| ] There is a requested move discussion at ] that may be of interest to members of this WikiProject. ] 09:41, 30 December 2024 (UTC) | |||
| <u>3. addition of usage notes to disambiguation discussion pages</u> | |||
| Several of the dab templates for use in the main article space do not have clear usage guidelines/suggestions associated with them. This could be rectified. | |||
| <u>4. monitoring of dab-template repertoire</u> | |||
| The template I listed on the main page which does not appear in the Template Messages: General listing is {{tl|TLAdisambig}}, which I ran across accidentally about a month ago. This WikiProject could take stewardship of the representation of disambiguation-related templates in the Template Messages page set and actively contribute to discussions regarding deletion and creation of templates in this space. | |||
| Thoughts? | |||
| ] 04:36, July 20, 2005 (UTC) | |||
| :3. That's a worthy task, but from what I know about wiki convention, it's something that should just get straightened out on a talk page somewhere. That said, we can create a dedicated talk page for it here, but the title would probably be a little frightening (something like ]). | |||
| :4. Also a worthy task, since disambig-related templates are among the most important, but I'm not sure that it belongs here. The two tasks that this project has at present are thrown together a bit haphazardly, but they're similar at least because they're both clear-cut and require a lot of work. This one is nebulous and requires comparatively less work. IMHO, I think that could be a separate project, but I really don't know. --] (]) 01:58, 21 July 2005 (UTC) | |||
| ::Agreed .. it's a fuzzy activity, more a matter of being a good wikicitizen than anything else (the creator of the template should place it on the index page in general, I think). ] 03:07, July 21, 2005 (UTC) | |||
| == Page titling == | |||
| Another possible expansion of scope: correcting page titling. Some dab pages are named ] but have ] as a redirect, or vice versa. This might be too big a can of worms, though. | |||
| And then there's the fact that ], ], ], and ] are primary topic pages but ], ], and ] are dab pages. (Mercury is a special case because of the element.) I put ] on Requested Moves to move it to "Venus (planet)" (and turn Venus into a dab) and that idea got soundly trounced, so probably Saturn, Neptune, and Pluto should become planet pages. | |||
| Also, some pages titled ] have a dablink to ] even though it's not necessary. | |||
| I'm thrilled that somebody started this project, however, and am eager to dig in! —] (]) 07:33, 20 July 2005 (UTC) | |||
| :I'm mildly in favor of adding this to our list of tasks. | |||
| :Why is that form of titling a big can of worms? ] promoted it ], and I've been using it semi-regularly. | |||
| :Second, I'm confused by the Venus thing. ] has around 1000 links, and ] has around 175. Some of the reasons cited on ] are against policy. --] (]) 01:58, 21 July 2005 (UTC) | |||
| What I was referring to regarding the planets is the inconsistency; some planets have a dab page at the primary title while others go directly to the planet. The decision on ] is already made. —] (]) 03:46, 21 July 2005 (UTC) | |||
| : _ _ It is a mistake to assume such inconsistency is a problem, just bcz they are all planets. Saturn and Mercury are both cars; should we ensure that the subject matters of ] and ] are consistent with other cars or with other planets? The attempt to discover all the types of things that should "own" the corresponding un-qualified titles will inevitably result in contradictions because there is no logic to which types (planets, mythological figures, cars, & many more) can "overlap" by sharing a name; i am convinced the only feasible approach to these cases is title by title, disregarding all supposed precedents in the form of things of the same kind. | |||
| : _ _ In fact, our whole concept of dabs rests on the fact looking a topic up with an unqualified name works whether or not that title is a dab, an article with at Top-of-Page dab leading directly or via a dab to the sense you want, or an article on the sense you want. How would inconsistency among planets disrupt that? | |||
| : _ _ Don't get hung up wanting order for its own sake, where the information we are representing is just not that orderly.<br>--]·] 08:25, 2005 July 21 (UTC) | |||
| ::''indicating agreement with ] on points made'' ] 12:35, July 22, 2005 (UTC) | |||
| == Suggested way for individuals to start == | |||
| A good start to work out personal processes for page updates related to this WikiProject might be for each participant to go through their own disambiguation page-related contributions and work on those first. However, looking through one's contributions list is tedious; is there a way the database can be interrogated directly to identify the set of pages I'm referring to here? ] 03:15, July 21, 2005 (UTC) | |||
| == Maintenance == | |||
| I was glad to see this project get going, because I've been quietly been working on fixing up dab pages for a while. One of the things that's been really frustrating to me is to put in a lot of time fixing up a real mess of a page, only to have somebody come along the next day and start undoing all the work you did. I think we need some standardized edit tag to point people to an explanation of what this project is all about; hopefully that will both disuade un-fixer-uppers, and help enlist new people into the project. ] 12:50, 21 July 2005 (UTC) | |||
| :How about | |||
| ::Disambiguation cleanup -- ]! | |||
| :—] (]) 22:56, 21 July 2005 (UTC) | |||
| :Works for me. ] 23:39, 21 July 2005 (UTC) | |||
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