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I am having trouble with another Wiki user who is harassing me. Whom do I speak with? How are these issues handled? Thanks. (JosephASpadaro 01:15, 30 April 2007 (UTC))

Why won't this following sentence format correctly?

Moreover it won the "Oscar grand slam" by winning Best Picture, Best Actor, Best Actress, Best Director and Best Screenplay—a feat that has subsequently been repeated only twice, by One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest in 1976 and by The Silence of the Lambs in 1991.

I want the link to the page entitled List of films receiving the Academy Award "Big Five" to be included in the sentence. Can anyone see what I am missing? I suspect it might have to do with the quote marks being a part of the article's title? But, I am not sure. Any help is appreciated. Thanks. (JosephASpadaro 21:21, 29 April 2007 (UTC))

It works now, you just forgot to delete the space. And, PLEASE (for the nth time) don't remove old help me notices. Real96 21:28, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Some Questions

Hi, there. You just posted a reply on my Talk Page. Thanks for the help.

(1) Exactly where was the space that I included? or failed to include? Once you made the correction, I could not spot -- in my original text -- where the original mistake was. Thanks.

Usually, helpme request generally remain on the page, in order for the helpee to track down which type of problems in you having with wikipedia. Although it is frowned upon, users shouldn't delete notices, but rather archive them.

(2) Re: deletion of old "Help Me" notices. (a) I am not supposed to delete them, once my question is answered? Is that the case? If so, I did not know. (b) When did you tell me (for the "nth time") that I should not be deleting them? I received some cryptic posts from you on my Talk Page ... and I had no idea what they meant. (What did they mean?) What I thought was ... I had posted a question ... and your post alerted other Wikipedians that the question was already answered, and there was no more need for them to address the issue. That's what I got out of your cryptic posts. Again, what were they, in fact, intended to communicate to me?

a.) See above answer b.)You removed this, this, and this. The reason that I bring this issue up is because we have had several users in the past abuse the help me function, and were blocked indef. (i.e. see this). I am only taking precautions.

(3) You also posted a cryptic message about "adoption" -- something to the effect "Are you interested in adoption?". This post, too, I had no idea what it meant. I thought it might be some type of "spam" or a user on Wiki playing a joke or a person who wanted editorial assistance on the adoption article. Nonetheless, I had no idea what you were asking, if the question was legitimate or not, and therefore I discounted and deleted it.

Adoption is not cryptic. It is a program for new users such as yourself to get acquainted with the policies of Misplaced Pages by pairing them up with an established users. Did you click the link? We are trying to help improve your experience on Misplaced Pages, not hurt it. Again, please see your welcome message for Misplaced Pages's functions.

When you have a moment, please address my three (above) questions. Thanks. I am new to Misplaced Pages, and any language / jargon / communication needs to take that fact into consideration. Thanks. Please let me know. (JosephASpadaro 23:14, 29 April 2007 (UTC))

My advice to you as a new user is to read the above welcome template, because it contains crucial information on how Misplaced Pages works. Real96 23:54, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Why won't this following sentence format correctly?

Moreover it won the "Oscar grand slam" by winning Best Picture, Best Actor, Best Actress, Best Director and Best Screenplay—a feat that has subsequently been repeated only twice, by One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest in 1976 and by The Silence of the Lambs in 1991.

I want the link to the page entitled List of films receiving the Academy Award "Big Five" to be included in the sentence. Can anyone see what I am missing? I suspect it might have to do with the quote marks being a part of the article's title? But, I am not sure. Any help is appreciated. Thanks. (JosephASpadaro 21:21, 29 April 2007 (UTC))

It works now, you just forgot to delete the space. And, PLEASE (for the nth time) don't remove old help me notices. Real96 21:28, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Some Questions

Hi, there. You just posted a reply on my Talk Page. Thanks for the help.

(1) Exactly where was the space that I included? or failed to include? Once you made the correction, I could not spot -- in my original text -- where the original mistake was. Thanks.

Usually, helpme request generally remain on the page, in order for the helpee to track down which type of problems in you having with wikipedia. Although it is frowned upon, users shouldn't delete notices, but rather archive them.

(2) Re: deletion of old "Help Me" notices. (a) I am not supposed to delete them, once my question is answered? Is that the case? If so, I did not know. (b) When did you tell me (for the "nth time") that I should not be deleting them? I received some cryptic posts from you on my Talk Page ... and I had no idea what they meant. (What did they mean?) What I thought was ... I had posted a question ... and your post alerted other Wikipedians that the question was already answered, and there was no more need for them to address the issue. That's what I got out of your cryptic posts. Again, what were they, in fact, intended to communicate to me?

a.) See above answer b.)You removed this, this, and this. The reason that I bring this issue up is because we have had several users in the past abuse the help me function, and were blocked indef. (i.e. see this). I am only taking precautions.

(3) You also posted a cryptic message about "adoption" -- something to the effect "Are you interested in adoption?". This post, too, I had no idea what it meant. I thought it might be some type of "spam" or a user on Wiki playing a joke or a person who wanted editorial assistance on the adoption article. Nonetheless, I had no idea what you were asking, if the question was legitimate or not, and therefore I discounted and deleted it.

Adoption is not cryptic. It is a program for new users such as yourself to get acquainted with the policies of Misplaced Pages by pairing them up with an established users. Did you click the link? We are trying to help improve your experience on Misplaced Pages, not hurt it. Again, please see your welcome message for Misplaced Pages's functions.

When you have a moment, please address my three (above) questions. Thanks. I am new to Misplaced Pages, and any language / jargon / communication needs to take that fact into consideration. Thanks. Please let me know. (JosephASpadaro 23:14, 29 April 2007 (UTC))

My advice to you as a new user is to read the above welcome template, because it contains crucial information on how Misplaced Pages works. Real96 23:54, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

Are We On The Same Page?

Hi. I received your post on my Talk Page. It seems that we are not at all on the same page. I attribute that to the fact that communicating via email text is very different than speaking face-to-face.

Please refer to your post on my Talk Page, as I will address the points here (below).

(1) You did not answer Question #1 at all. Or, more likely, you misinterpreted the question and answered a completely different question. The original question was: where exactly on my original text about Academy Award movies was the error I made in spacing? After you fixed the error, I could not spot the error that you fixed. And my goal was two-fold: one, to have the error fixed; and two, to understand what the error was so as not to repeat it. Your answer to my Question #1 was about whether or not to delete help me messages, which in no way addressed what I was asking. My point being ... bad communication. Not on your part, or mine -- but simply because we are trying to have a "conversation" over the computer.

(2) You said that Help Me requests remain on one's Talk Page in order for the helpee to track down which type of problems I am having with Misplaced Pages. I am not sure if you meant "helper" (with a typo) or "helpee." Again, bad communication. If you meant "helpee" --- then, I am the helpee ... that is, the one being helped. Once the issue is resolved, I do not need to know further what type of problems I WAS (past tense) having with Misplaced Pages. Hence, that is why I delete the messages and type "resolved" in the Edit Summary box. If you typed a typo and meant "helper" ... still, once the issue is resolved, why would the helper need to know what type of issues I (in the past) needed help with? It makse no sense to me. And I am asking for informational purposes, rather than accusatory purposes. Furthermore, I have looked at many Talk Pages ... I never see people holding onto OLD help me messages. Furthermore, I thought that all of this stuff is automatically archived in the HISTORY tab, anyway? That is, whether or not I delete it, it is still "there" somewhere in the HISTORY tab. No?

(2a) I am not disputing the fact that I deleted "this, this, and this." In fact, I admitted such and explained why. My point is that your messages to me were cryptic. I already explained how I interpreted your messages in my first post: (1) that some one was playing a joke; (2) that is was some kind of spam; and (3) that you were alerting others on Misplaced Pages that my issue was resolved and, in effect, help was no longer needed here. Those are all reasonable interpretations on my part. Your messages -- I found cryptic -- and I certainly did not understand them (otherwise, we would not be engaging in this very discussion presently). Your messages said something to the effect of "Help Me notice has been taken down." It did not use normal, plain English like: "please refrain from doing such and such on Misplaced Pages because of the following reasons."

As a further note: Why should I keep these Help Me messages on my Talk Page, once the issue is resolved? My page would be cluttered in 5 minutes. And, once the issue is resolved, why would I want to keep an archive of old, resolved issues that I now understand? I don't understand the policy or the procedure here. So, let me know, please.

(3) "Adoption" is very cryptic. I got a message that says, "Are you interested in Adoption?" My interpretations were quite reasonable: (1) someone was playing a joke; (2) it was some kind of spam; (3) some one needed help and contributions to the article on Adoption. Because I just gave you three reasonable interpretations of your post, your post -- by definition -- is cryptic. You may be an experienced Misplaced Pages user and, as such, the jargon term "adoption" means something different to you ... as does the ability to click that link and other Wiki procedures. What I am saying to you -- as a new Wiki user -- is that your message was cryptic and a normal, reasonable person unfamiliar with Wiki jargon would have had similar reasonable interpretations of your message about adoption.

So, bottom line: your communications to me have been ineffective -- by definition, because they did not achieve the desired effect. As I said, I am new to Misplaced Pages and your Wiki jargon, terms, and procedures are (obviously) new and foreign to me, as they are with any new user. Let's shoot for better communication. And you need to understand that the message you deliver is not necessarily the message that is received.

Thanks for your time. Please reply. Especially to Question #1, which you did not answer in the first go-round.

And, as a P.S. -- Misplaced Pages is very hard to navigate and no, I sincerely do not have the time to sit and read every Wiki policy, practice, help page, link, etc.

Thanks! (JosephASpadaro 00:49, 30 April 2007 (UTC))

First, adoption is a Misplaced Pages supported program. Second, your link was invalid because you did this ] instead of ]. Third, please read the notice on my page which says that I will respond on your userpage if I have responded on your userpage. Also, please don't disrupt Misplaced Pages with this edit. I am only trying to help. Real96 01:18, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

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