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| This may come-off cold-hearted, but I don't intend it to: You say you "stand by my statement in the RfA". Well, of course you are entitled to dig your heels in and say that the arbitrators were just plain wrong, but that doesn't really help you here. Instead, why don't you accept the arbitrators' decision for what it is: A decision by our enforcement body, and a pretty fair indication of community consensus. </font><small><span style="border: 1px solid #F06A0F">]]</span></small><font color="#ffffff"> · </font> 02:01, 1 May 2007 (UTC) | This may come-off cold-hearted, but I don't intend it to: You say you "stand by my statement in the RfA". Well, of course you are entitled to dig your heels in and say that the arbitrators were just plain wrong, but that doesn't really help you here. Instead, why don't you accept the arbitrators' decision for what it is: A decision by our enforcement body, and a pretty fair indication of community consensus. </font><small><span style="border: 1px solid #F06A0F">]]</span></small><font color="#ffffff"> · </font> 02:01, 1 May 2007 (UTC) | ||
| :As I understand it, ArbCom declined to take the case. It did not arbitrate the case. I think I understand why at least one arbitrator thought it was frivilous, and those who declined to hear the case thought it not worth their time. It's a bit like the Supreme Court saying "We're not going to decide whether you parking ticket was fair." I had simply misunderstood the role of ArbCom in a dispute like the one I stated. So, in my view, ArbCom has refused to settle the issue. The arbitrators were no doubt right to do so and I am not saying they were wrong about anything. My statement was right but delivered to the wrong place, that's all.--] 18:02, 1 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
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Sorry to see you go. In any case, thanks for what was obviously a tremendous effort on your part. DriveBy27 03:48, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
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(The following discussion is about this draft of an RfC )
Dear Thomas, I'm sure there are many users who will endorse the summary. Please have a look at this recent discussion.
In my endorsement I would stress on the "evil mechanism" which is in work when users are faced with Mongo's kind of response. Instead of resolving the issue, checking one's own facts, sources, one starts to fight, or abandons the case (this is what Mongo is always hoping for). This is not productive mostly because, as you've pointed out in the summary, one's motives are at stake, not the edit in question. Well, policies WP:FAITH, WP:DBN say it all in essence.
Anyway, it's a sorrow decision from you not to edit anymore. Please come from time to time to make an edit, even if in terrorem of unnecessary comments by, and discussions with, some. SalvNaut 19:57, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
Hopefully you are working on not accusing others of making attacks when you yourself have done some too. No one wants the articles here taken over by conspiracy theory silliness. That is simply the way it goes and I applaud anyone who does what they can to stop it. That type of silliness simply wrecks whatever little reliability this website has.--Beguiled 21:24, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
- I guess we disagree about the degree to which the means justifies the ends. Silliness should be avoided, yes, but not by sacrificing civility. As for whether people who have been incivil in the past should be able to point out that behaviour in others, note that the desired outcome of my RfC is precisely for Mongo to help fight the sort of incivility he consistently practices. If occasionally crossing the line to incivility disqualifies one from criticizing it, then we may as well just give up the norm altogether. That said, what attack of mine are you talking about?--Thomas Basboll 06:17, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
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- Thank you for your nice message. I think it would be better to make a new article. I heard that the 9/11 article is guarded by people like wolves. It is so true. Do you know this article? There are too many incosistants with what President Bush and others said about their actions on 9/11 that it can't be believed, Good night Mr Baseball. I'm logging off now. I am try to come back tomorrow if I have the hours. Babalooo 07:39, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
Dear Thomas Basboll
Dear Thomas Basboll,
I've just sent you an email to reply your concern at my Talk Page. There are a few things I'd like to express to you regarding your dispute with MONGO that I prefer to remain private, as this whole matter has already caused too much stress for everyone involved, mostly MONGO and you; but definitely not limited to you both. I hope it helps to at least give you my input and try and help to put this issue behind us all. Best regards, Phaedriel - 17:59, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
- I personally wish to thank you for both replying my email, which I will re-reply as soon as possible, and subsequently reconsidering the RfAr against MONGO. I hope this serves to put all this behind us and go on with other more pleasant business. Have a relaxing wikibreak, and I sincerely hope our interactions in the future are more pleasant and fruitful. Best regards, Phaedriel - 22:48, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
- I look forward to your mail. Your optimism is puzzling, however. But perhaps you know something I don't. There is nothing to indicate to me that anything is behind us. I stand by my statement in the RfA, which I withdrew when an arbitrator called it frivilous. Point taken.--Thomas Basboll 23:24, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
This may come-off cold-hearted, but I don't intend it to: You say you "stand by my statement in the RfA". Well, of course you are entitled to dig your heels in and say that the arbitrators were just plain wrong, but that doesn't really help you here. Instead, why don't you accept the arbitrators' decision for what it is: A decision by our enforcement body, and a pretty fair indication of community consensus. MortonDevonshire Yo · 02:01, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
- As I understand it, ArbCom declined to take the case. It did not arbitrate the case. I think I understand why at least one arbitrator thought it was frivilous, and those who declined to hear the case thought it not worth their time. It's a bit like the Supreme Court saying "We're not going to decide whether you parking ticket was fair." I had simply misunderstood the role of ArbCom in a dispute like the one I stated. So, in my view, ArbCom has refused to settle the issue. The arbitrators were no doubt right to do so and I am not saying they were wrong about anything. My statement was right but delivered to the wrong place, that's all.--Thomas Basboll 18:02, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
Request for arbitration
As an Arbitration Committee clerk, I will de-list your request, since you have withdrawn it. As an individual, however, I want to say that the fact that this request was declined does not mean that you should stop contributing to the project. Regards, Newyorkbrad 22:12, 30 April 2007 (UTC)