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comment on social change page
ADDITIONAL COMMENTS
First, I posted some comments on the social change talk page, http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Social_change, and have not seen any response to my posted note, except your note to me on my talk page. Are you the only one who looks at the talk page?
Second, you had written "the quote itself is not from a respected peer reviewed journal or book on the subject". How is 'respected book' defined? On the talk page, I listed a number of sites that link to our reports, including several web pages of the UK government, the Development Gateway, the University of Chicago's model UN, Eldis and Intute. I also had written that we have published articles describing or discussing most of the data we use. For example, I have described most of the data in various International Statistical Institute Newsletters, see this for a list http://gsociology.icaap.org/report/whoare.html and have also discussed the data and their usage in a Social Research Update issue, see http://sru.soc.surrey.ac.uk/SRU47.html. Finally, our reciprocal links page http://gsociology.icaap.org/these.html lists a large number of other organizations or people who list our reports. These organizations and people believe our reports are respected. What additional information would be needed?
Just to mention, our social change project is also listed by five sections of the American Sociological Association, two research committees of the International Sociological Association, by a number of other sociological associations, and by a large number of other organizations and people. All of these people believe our project is respected, at least enough to link to.
Third, you had also written that our use of our reports as references "did not actually provide good verification of the facts being cited." The wikipedia page on verifiability says ""Verifiable" in this context means that any reader should be able to check that material added to Misplaced Pages has already been published by a reliable source." As I may have mentioned, all of our reports provide links to the data sources and to reports from other organizations which have similar conclusions. These other organizations often include the UN, world bank, or other well known organizations. In addition, as mentioned above, a large number of organizations link to our reports and so presumably consider our reports reliable. Is this verification sufficient? If not, what other verification would be needed?
As I mentioned, there have been no responses on the social change talk page. Can I consider that I make my case sufficiently well? Can I go ahead and add content?
thanks
gsociology 03:41, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
PREVIOUS COMMENTS
Hi
I noticed you or someone removed the global social change project as a reference on the social change page http://en.wikipedia.org/Social_change. Just to mention, I had added most of the EXAMPLES section and all of the MEASURING SOCIAL CHANGE sections a long time ago, using my social change project as the reference. If the reference to my site is to be removed, then these sections should be removed as well. Alternatively, if these sections seem useful, then the reference to my site should be posted to the page. I'll be happy to add the reference to my project, or to remove those sections, whichever you prefer.
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Hello. I don't understand why my link is being removed when it is not advertising. It is a link to a free PDF workbook related to the category I put the link in-funerals. Please review the PDF http://www.monumentsinstone.com/Articles.asp?ID=129#download and let me know the reasoning here. 24.178.116.29 16:21, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
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Social Work Podcast
Thanks for your email. I checked out the policies before adding the links and believe they fit neither the definition of spam nor conflict of interest. Although the podcast website is registered by me, it is in no way a personal website. I believe the links do not constitute spam because they do not constitute personal promotion. Because the podcasts are audio articles that are based on research, include references and are professionally recorded, they are consistent with the links to websites containing similar text-based scholarly information. They just happen to be audio recordings. For example, on the Gestalt site, there is a link to the Manchester Gestalt Center. This site contains more personal promotion than the social work podcast (there are links to personal bios, for-profit-training, etc). In contrast, socialworkpodcast.com, has no commercial value, nor does it promote me personally any more than an authored article promotes the author.
The second concern, that the links could be construed as a conflict of interest, is curious because the specific links dealt only with the subjects under which they were listed (e.g. gestalt, stigma, etc). They constitute no more of an endorsement by Misplaced Pages than any other link.
When you listened to the podcasts, did they appear to inconsistent with the spirit of Misplaced Pages external links? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jonathan B Singer (talk • contribs) 15:26, 29 March 2007 (UTC).
Hi Siobhan,
The section of the external links guideline you quoted makes sense. As per your suggestion I added the recommendation to the Talk section of one of the entries and will add to the other entries as I have time.
I personally think the site lacks authority and notability
I'm interested in knowing why you think the site lacks authority. Is it because you don't know who I am?
these podcasts are effectively audio blogs
The information in the podcasts is scholarly in that I cite where I got the information I'm talking about. Not only do I cite it in the podcast, but I also cite it on the website in the form of a reference page. I'm wondering if the site included a notice that the podcasts had been peer-reviewed in a way that was similar to scholarly journals if that would change how you categorize the podcast. These podcasts are not "my opinion" about the topics any more than a summary of the theory on some of the linked pages is an opinion (for example, http://www.mythosandlogos.com/Rogers.html on the Carl Rogers page).
What would be in the spirit of Misplaced Pages would be for you to add content to our articles!
If you check my history, you'll see that I do add information to the articles. I did not add content to the articles I linked to because the my purpose was to augment the information available, not replicate it.
external links don't bring content within that general mission
I believe that audio versions of information generally found on the Misplaced Pages pages (for example a scholarly audio program on existential thearpy) is congruent with the mission of wikipedia. Would it be better to embed the file in the wikipedia page? --Jonathan B Singer 02:53, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Siobhan
Thanks for your response. I will look into posting audio on the sister site.
I can appreciate that it is a big world out there and I do not expect that you would know me. I'm a small fish in a big ocean. Here are a couple of links to recent scholarly articles of mine that relate to clinical intervention. (No expectation that you read them).
- Adolescent Latino Males with Schizophrenia: Mobile Crisis Response
- Making stone soup: Evidence-based practice for a suicidal youth with comorbid ADHD and MDD
--Jonathan B Singer 16:19, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Message I received warning about spamming???
Good afternoon, My name is Anton Kisiel. I have been a active and important contributor to the Pose/ Daz Studio/ 3D communities for 10 years. I was refered to this discussion page by a wiki representative via email.
Today i received this rather rude and presumptuous message. I seek to resolve this matter permaently.
This is your last warning. The next time you insert a spam link, you will be blocked from editing Misplaced Pages. Persistent spammers may have their websites blacklisted as well, preventing anyone from linking to them from any site that uses the MediaWiki spam blacklist, which includes all of Wikimedia and Misplaced Pages. -- Siobhan Hansa 00:29, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
Recently I have created a free resource to the users of the following software packages: Poser /Daz Studio/Byce,Vue all of whom can use Poser content. The figure resource I have created for free use, called Apollo Maximus, is not spam or a commercial Item,. My site is not a store. I do not sell anything 3d related. I do create resources for 3d artists in these titles. I am the originator, creator, and sole owner of Apollo Maximus. My addition of this external link on pages that do allow community links, specifically the Daz Studio page.
Forgive me if I have formated this wrong or in the wrong spot. I have been trying to add this link *Free 3D Human DazStudio/Poser Figure:Apollo Maximus <http://www.antonkisieldesigns.com/~akfiles/htmlpages/ApolloMaximusFree3dhumanfigure.htm> .The link is directly relevant, valuable, and of interest to the Software topics it is posted to. The links on mutiple pages above are all simultaneously being removed whether posted by others or myself.
Why are links on the Daz STudio page allowed but when someone posts a link to my resource, their entry is removed without discussion?
I started posting myself when this was brought to my attention. My attempt to re add it, and not being entirely familiar with this site's very complicated commication process has lead me here. It seems because the link keeps getting removed daily, and thus I re-add it I have received a spamming message.
as that regardless of whether the link is posted by others or myself, and that similar additions are allowed to remain, and as that multiple references to the software entry above are being simultaneously removed without discussion or proper explaination, I would appreciate resolution to this matter for concern of bias.
I would also appreciate my link to this free community software resource not being deleted, where others, within the same scope and topic, are permitted to remain. I would also appreciate any spamming references or actions being removed.
I have received a misguided message that I am somehow spamming the entries above. I have not been Spamming these entries think close examination of the link and the wiki subject would show it's value as a community related resource permitted under external links. I have simply been re-adding them as they have been deleted, assumingly by someone not wanting them seen.
If this is an issue then I seek arbitration. 71.241.209.123 08:24, 30 March 2007 (UTC)Anton Kisiel (snipped email address for your inbox's well-being --Geniac 13:58, 30 March 2007 (UTC))
- Hi Anotn, I'm responding here and on the IP addresses where previous messages have been left about this link in the hope that you will see this response.
- The links were removed because they violated our guidelines in several ways:
- They were systematically added to multiple articles by single or related IP addresses without community consensus. Mass addition of links in this manner is spamming by our definition, regardless of the website that is being added.
- None of Misplaced Pages's articles allow "community links", we encourage the addition of a few external links that add encyclopedic value to an article. And occasionally editors of an article will agree that a link that doesn't add encyclopedic value is nevertheless a good link to have and should stay. A link to free software does not add encyclopedic value, though it may be considered useful by editors.
- We also ask that people connected to a website do not add links to that site directly to the article but instead put a request on the article talk page asking regular editors of the article to consider adding it.
- If you still believe the link should be added you need to post to the talk page of each article you believe the link is appropriate for (for each article there is a "discussion" tag at the top of the page, click on this to get to the talk page) and ask other editors to consider the appropriateness of the link. -- Siobhan Hansa 12:08, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
- I'm glad this user finally identified himself, because I'm sick of reverting his links and now unsubtle product inserts. I'd like to address his claims. First off, his website is a commercial web site, he sells his services off of the site. The "free" product he claims to offer is copyrighted and the usage restrictions that come with it hardly qualify it as free (even in his letter to you he claims to be "owner" of the product). This link is simply self promotion for his design services. Second, the type of "free" 3d model that he offers is commonly available by the thousands all over the net; entire web sites are dedicated to cataloging and offering them...hardly a subject of importance or interest. Third, his claim that "The link is directly relevant, valuable, and of interest to the Software topics it is posted to" is complete nonsense. If you look at the spoof IPs he's been using, he's posted his SPAM everywhere from articles on a popular 3D terrain editing software package to an article on one of the original chatterbots. Hardly relevant or valuable to those articles. Even after his warnings and his letter to you he's tried to change tactics by inserting non-linked information about his products onto Misplaced Pages. Isn't there some three strikes you are out rule? He's wasting a lot of people's time. -- anonymous 30 March 2007 (UTC)
- "Mr. Kisiel" is operating under at least nine different addresses/names posting his links now. In some cases he has posted Spam and been reverted by separate editors three times in the same article in one day. If you'll note the changelogs for the past week for a lot of the attacked articles they simply amount to editors having to remove his Spam again and again. I see that you and others have warned him about this repeatedly under multiple names and addressees and since that time he has ignored you and posted exactly the same link again and again on a daily and sometimes hourly basis. To put it politely, I doubt very seriously there would ever be any reason or consensus reached to post his links in any Misplaced Pages article. For that matter, I can't see him ever making a legitimate contribution to Misplaced Pages, though he does seem to be an expert on stalling, wasting peoples time, and self promotion. Is there any way to elevate this and stop this guy? As far as I can tell, the only contributions he has ever made to Misplaced Pages are posting the same Spam link in articles close to 100 times now. Thanks in advance for any help you can give here. -- anonymous 1 April 2007 (UTC)
Woops, made a new post: see below - dan
71.205.121.151 18:34, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
MilitaryAvenue - thanks for responding to my question. Please read.
Good Afternoon: Thanks for replying to my question about Militaryavenue.com being considered spam. I am new to wikipedia and now understand the reason. I will not include any further links to MilitaryAvenue. I will go about it as you have suggested. I am concerned that having militaryavenue.com listed in the spam section of wikipedia is going to cause problems for us. Can you help me remove it with the understanding I will heed your advice. I think it is apparent that I am trying to resolve this and not simply out to spam. I do appreciate your help in this matter. Thanks - new wiki username is grandrapidsdan. 71.205.121.151 18:34, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
- Hi Grandrapidsdan, Thanks for responding and taking the time to check out our policies. The pages you are listed on are not a list of Spam sites, sites like google, myspace and buy.com are listed. It's simply a set of working pages to document our history. Removing information from them means that we no longer have documentation of what has been done and makes it much harder for us to understand how often we get things right or wrong, what has been looked at in the past and (eventually we hope) what the best approaches are to building the encyclopedia.
- Misplaced Pages's list of identified spam sites is kept at: m:Spam_blacklist with discussions at m:Talk:Spam_blacklist (and archives). Your site is not on any of those pages. I hope this reassures you. If you find there are negative affects of our document pages we would appreciate hearing about how it impacts you. While we want to stop inappropriate links on Misplaced Pages we are not trying to upset the reputations of sites that happen to be listed on our working pages. -- Siobhan Hansa 02:27, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
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I am trying, with the support of the majority of the subculture I represent, to present unbiased, documented information. I have made many changes using other biographys as examples, but I have only a few newspaper articles to reference. I believe that the chopper bicycle article I authored is not different from articles on other cycle types that are not in dispute. I also feel that the emergence of the modern chopper bicycle movement and custom chopper bicycle designers such as myself, is newsworthy and should be documented. As for my biographical information, I have been getting many calls since my TV appearences and I believe people would like to know something about myself as well as my bikes. PLEASE HELP. I am trying to learn the ways of wikipedia and I don't want to abuse the system.DocChopper 02:54, 9 April 2007 (UTC)DocChopper
THANK YOU ! DocChopper 03:35, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
There was an article about Doc's Choppers in the first issue of:
Strutter Magazine ZMAG Publishing Inc. 15110 Danby Road Georgetown, Ontario L7G0B1
Vol.1 No.1 January/February 2007
How can I reference it ?? DocChopper 04:07, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
Can I change my user name to Doc Chopper, (with the space?)DocChopper 04:11, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
Tried to follow instructions, but the names are too similar. Requested help. Will canceling my original account get rid of my previous work or should I wait to transfer the information?
Or did I already take care of it?
DocChopper 05:54, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
redirected everything, including the Doc Chopper article to the user page, but now I can not find the Doc Chopper article. Can I add the external links, like press release info, and the rest to my user site ? I still want to work on the Doc Chopper article too.
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COMMENT: I'm confused as to why you removed the link on the eGovernment page that links to govitwiki.com. According to WikiPedia's own criteria for "what should be linked" the site very much conforms to those guidelines. Please closely read #3 and #4. The government IT wiki site meets those criteria exactly. GovStuff 15:19, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
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added comments
You wrote to leave comments at the bottom of your page, but there isn't anyplace to leave comments, so I added this section.
I just added some things to the social change page, and you removed everything I added. Your comment about adding a link was "Removing the website I added back in in last revert. Link does not provide information about the subject of this article)" What does that mean? I added a link to my site which is all about social change, and when I added the link, I wrote next to it that it was about social change. Is there something else that is needed? Does about mean something specific?
gsociology 14:24, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
- "Please suggest your site on the talk pages of other articles you believe it is useful for. Other editors can add the site if they agree with your assessment."
I believe my project is very useful to the social change wikipedia page, as it discusses and reveiws global social change. How do I suggest it to the editors of this page, so the editors can consider adding it in?
The global social change research project
This project is not a peer reviewed journal or major published book. However, our reports are listed on the web sites of the Development Gateway, Eldis, UK's Government Social Research unit, newsletters of the International Institute for Sustainable Development and the American Sociological Association, the UK government's Policy Hub. Our web site is listed on the web sites of 5 sections of the American Sociological Assocation, as well as many other sociological associations and on the sites of many other organizations and people. See
I believe all of these links are a good indicator of how well respected our project and reports are. thanks
gene
gsociology 17:39, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
I've added comments to the wikipedia social change discussion page to explain why I should be able to edit the wikipedia social change page. Are you the only editor, or will others also discuss this? thanks
gsociology 13:31, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
List of Queercore Bands
Can we please discuss the removal of external links from the List of queercore bands before committing to the change? Thanks. --Larrybob 00:40, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
HELP ! ! where can I post this ? ? it may end my deletion issue Doc Chopper 04:23, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
ISTIA
Siobhan, please, leave this page alone. It is a serious source of reference for globalization statistics and capcity building work, which is supportive of UN and WTO ventures to help poor countries and provide information for users in rich countries. It is not correct of you to erase those links. Thanks in advance for your help. If you want to have a serious discussion about globalization data, statistical capacity buildling work or UN work for economic development, please write to me on my talk board, thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jenniferpowell (talk • contribs).
That isnt fair to remove the notability links to the discussion. They are part of the article. Put them back! Not everyone has all day to fish around and look for links. If you want to have an intelligent discussion about whether this page should live or die then let it live in its REAL STATE. Not some emasculated version! JUST LEAVE IT BE UNTIL THE DISCUSSION IS FINISHED PLEASE. I acknowlege that you may have points, but for now please let the full information stand. THANKS IN ADVANCE. istia 20:30, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
Formatting
Thanks for letting me know. By the way, are you the same user as User:Siobhan Hansa (with a space)? --Geniac 15:37, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
- I have left a note at User_talk:Raul654#Impostor_account. Fred Bauder 16:12, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
thanks for help with photo and with Zendik farm article
I appreciate your efforts on the article and with getting a photo up. Thanks... Jyre 17:39, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
Please put this back in the ISTIA page
Training and capacity building work provided to developing country and LDC governments by ISTIA has two principle objectives. Firstly, it includes trade negotiator and policymaker training on the fundamentals of globalization statistics, specifically GATS statistics as per the GATS Four Modes of Supply, FDIstatistics and statistics detailing the operations of FDI-based enterprises, being multinational corporations or transnational corporations. FDI-operations statistics, which comprise statistics on employment, value-added, capital expenditures, inter- and intra- firm trade, are called foreign affiliate trade statistics (FATS). Secondly, and more importantly, ISTIA helps national governments to improve trade in services statistics and FDI statistics by providing training on data collection methodologies which are conformant to International Monetary Fund (IMF) statistical standards, and recommendations of the United Nations Manual on Statistics on International Trade in Services (MSITS), created as a joint intergovernmental effort chaired by the OECD-Eurostat Inter-Agency Task Force on Statistics on International trade in Services. ISTIA technical assistance will help the over 120 developing countries which require this form of assistance, to meet IMF and other criteria, while providing governments with information which is more useful for negotiations and policymaking, and which private sector enterprises in developing countries and LDCs can use to make evidence-based decisions.
Why put it back
It explains what ISTIA does, has inline citations (which is what everyone is asking for. Writing about whether istia is an international agency or international association acting in a non-governmental capacity is a legal defintion which is helpful to no one. Most people don't understand those distinctions, and though I spent 3 days new links to describe all the above sections (or improve the messy ones that existed) I have no desire to write a legal definition of association, NGOs, etc here.
Please take my name off the page for the AfD
You seem fine with the fact that I'm being personally insulted on the board (or all admins don't seem to care) so I'm taking my name off of the board, where it has been written, and then leaving the community. But I'm not being allowed to do that - the same harassors are putting it back. I've reported them for vandalism and no one has done anything.
If you, or other administrators don't act on this, I'll find another way to act. This is my job, an agency funded by governments, and these kids don't understand that this is serious. They are young. But if they don't take this seriously, and since no one is helping me, I'm going to have to take serious step.
Thanks62.203.8.64 12:58, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
Reply
No, it won't educate anyone, which is a damned shame. If you'd have asked me some questions, I could have helped you earlier, instead of just editing and cutting it up. The edits here explain a lot, and you just cut them out. Would you do me the favor of explaining why this needed to be cut out? I think I deserve an explanation. I spent hours writing material on trade in services and FDI on Misplaced Pages, and this is the thanks I get.
I can appreciate your wikification, but you cannot just cut out the substance of an article about which you don't know anything. That isn't editing.
- The two principal objectives of ISTIAs capacity building efforts for developing countries' LDCs' governments are as follows. Firstly, ISTIA seeks to provide training to trade negotiators and policymakers on the fundamentals of globalization statistics, that could provide them with a deeper understanding of their work. These comprise trade in services statistics, which could provide insight into the services trade under the GATS Four Modes of Supply. As well, FDI statistics and Foreign Affiliate Trade Statistics, or FATS are important economic indicators in this realm. FATS are corporate financial statistics, aggregated at the national level, describing the operations of FDI-based enterprises, being multinational corporations; some examples of FATS include statistics on levels of employment, value-added, capital expenditures, inter- and intra- firm trade, as they relate to the economies where FDI-enterprises are based.
Without that paragraph, the page is a load of crap. It deserves to be deleted. You know I wrote most of those links, by the way. GATS wasn't even readable before I wrote about it. And I made sure that GATS protestors didn't take it over. I kept the information clean. You really got your motives mixed up here.
There really are about 100 people in the world working in this area. Most of them don't write on the internet (many of them don't know how to type, yes, many economists still dont, esp here in Europe). So this was a real loss for wikipedia.
Look at how Frederick whathisname has stalked me to the page where I'm changing my name. This thing is pathological. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.62.20.189 (talk • contribs).
Thank you
Thank you for the workshop. I didn't know about that before. Much appreciated.
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Sorry, I am newer to wiki. I admit I am a ONE Campaign supporter, and I just thought the timing was suspect since Bono was on American Idol tonight to plug the ONE Campaign. I added to the discussion like you requested. Ilxaau 02:11, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
Ditto! Thanks for keeping us ONE supporters honest - I also made some changes to make the entry more informative than promotional, and I think it's pretty balanced and objective now. Mpm78 15:42, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
Revert to Industrial Revolution
Oops! I missed the absence of that section, so I apologize for not replacing it. I shouldn't make that sort of mistake in the future. :)
Affirmations link addition
Hi there,
I don't know if this is the correct place to leave a reply, please remove if it is not.
I added the link http://www.bmindful.com/ to the affirmations page and you removed it. This is an affirmation resource, and abides by all external linking guidlines. The confusion may have arisen because it looks like you need registration, however this is not the case. Perhaps the page http://www.bmindful.com/affirmations.php would be a better link?
Am I able to re-add this link? Thanks :) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 121.44.252.31 (talk) 11:43, 29 April 2007 (UTC).
- I responded on the talk page of the IP address you posted this from. Try creating an account to ease communicating on Misplaced Pages. -- Siobhan Hansa 19:45, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Power of attorney link
Hi Siobhan,
I note that you removed the link to how Power of Attorney Works. How do you think this information can be presented in Misplaced Pages. Please email me at the_rests@yahoo.co.uk —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.153.192.10 (talk • contribs).
- Try adding verifiable content using reliable sources to the article. (Sorry, I don't send email for wikipedia communication. Try creating an account to ensure you receive responses.) -- Siobhan Hansa 19:45, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
The information I provided was a link to a UK government website. Do you consider this verifiable? I will look into setting up my own account.
- Maybe I'm confused about which of my edits you are referring to. Can you point me to the diff where I removed the link? -- Siobhan Hansa 20:17, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
I do not know how to show you the diff. Here is a link to the version where it was removed http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Power_of_attorney&direction=prev&oldid=124075641.
I now see that between our edits someone else lost the formatting of the "UK Law" heading which made it unreadable. Thanks for doing the clean up. I've put the entry back in. Maybe you could review it.
- I found what you meant by looking back a bit from the link you provided. The problem with the link as you've put it in is that it simply points people to another page. You need to rewrite and summarize the information in the UK section on Misplaced Pages itself. Then use the link as a reference for that information. The page is copyrighted, so the content can't simply be cut and pasted onto Misplaced Pages (plus it's probably a bit long). -- Siobhan Hansa 21:50, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
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Message from Igor.grigorov
Hi Siobhan,
Thank you for your hard work, you deleted almost all of links that I added. It only tells me that you understand nothing in electronics. Yes, at our time it is very hard to find a competent editor... Yes, I 've just forget, you leave one my link at vacuum tube page. Delete the link and sleep well.
Regards, Igor Grigorov Igor.grigorov 17:10, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
WP:External links guideline and DMOZ linking
I just wanted to say how much I appreciate your participation in the debate over at WP:EL concerning DMOZ linking. Although we disagree, as you know, you have been quite civil and willing to acknowledge the concerns of others. Other participants in that discussion, including some administrators, have not been as easy to deal with.
As far as our own disagreement goes, I know that you have the best interests of the Project at heart, and I certainly will acknowledge that the formerly included DMOZ language was not a perfect solution to the serious problem of linkspam. I think it just boils down to you feeling it did more harm than good, whereas I believe the converse, albeit marginally.
I have not been able to participate in that debate as much as I would like due to other commitments (both on- and off-Wiki), but at least I am not longer completely discouraged and frustrated by the manner and tone of the conversation. Thanks again for your level-headedness and positive example. Happy editing, Satori Son 18:11, 1 May 2007 (UTC)