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Maybe the matter of the article isn't your "territory", but the admin's reaction is needed on the talk page. Because... he's now removing the evidence of his behaviour. ] 12:20, 30 May 2007 (UTC) | Maybe the matter of the article isn't your "territory", but the admin's reaction is needed on the talk page. Because... he's now removing the evidence of his behaviour. ] 12:20, 30 May 2007 (UTC) | ||
:My opinion is that we are beyond any possible limit. Kubura has became a serious problem. He just spread his own ideas, doing vandalism on well supported articles. His target is to support his nationalistic ideas without proper refernceahould. He accuse me to "hate" Croatia and oter... There is a difference between him and me. I my edits are supported, Kubura's edit no. He open agin and again, dispuutes already discussed and closed. A small example.... to change "Repulic of Ragusa" into "Republic of Dubrovnik". The above comments are (of course) false. Kubura is well known to several admins, like a fanatic. I've no probelm if my edits will be put under control: I've nothing to hide. I sholuld not tell the same aout Kubura. I want to pint out that Kubura was NEVER able to show that my edits are wrong, all he can do is to accuse that "I want to hide the word'Croatia'". But he can't support this claim. Best regards--] 13:03, 30 May 2007 (UTC) |
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Geo Chester
Istotope - I found this page for Geo chester and felt that it needed speedy deletion. I thought this to be an obvious decision, but I didn't want to overstep my bounds on tagging or commenting this article. What's the best course of action here? Trigam41 15:07, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Looks like someone beat me to it... Trigam41 15:12, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Bot
I just saw SelketBot in action... nice work on that.--Isotope23 15:29, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks! ;) --Selket 15:31, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
User:Sdubois
This user continued to post attack articles after you posted a message that said he had been blocked. Realkyhick 17:32, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
Sir William Arbuthnot, 2nd Baronet
I have now done more work on this page as you requested and hope it is what you required. David Lauder 11:50, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
Walker
Notability is a guideline for the existence of an article, not the content of an article. I don't see a good reason to exclude this information (of course, with due weight... which would be very little... where is this info supposed to go?) — Demong talk 07:39, 28 April 2007 (UTC) comments actually by 67.163.7.227 (talk · contribs)... not Demong (talk · contribs). Demong is not associated with this IP.--Isotope23 13:41, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
Demong wrote the statement, yes?
It is beyond us why you want reviews. Popularity is not an issue for a bio about Matt.
Here is a link to iTunes If you scroll down to the bottom of the reviews on the first page you will see that Apple uses AMG for the review of Mr. Nysted's first album. We do not want to war with you, you seem like an ok guy. Second album will be up all over the world too ! Cheers!67.163.34.18 19:07, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
I will put this up for the rest of my gang to read at the school ! Lee's Orchard links have a thousand of these things around the world in a lot of languages. 287500 and counting.67.163.34.18 19:07, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
- I requested reviews because one of the primary criteria for notability is coverage in reliable third party sources. I think you said something along the lines of notability is not the same thing as popularity (at least I think it was you... might have been that other IP) and that is true. What I'd want to see is evidence that outside sources, like music journalists and/or websites, have taken notice of Walker's involvement on the album in question. I can't see the Itunes link you've mentioned because I don't use iTunes, but if it is based on the AMG review... the problem is that there is no review at AMG, just a picture of the album. As of yet, with all the links that have been provided, I've not seen one legitimate external review of the album. This has nothing at all to do with popularity and everything to do with notability. Regardless, it's not up to me at this point. I'm going to allow the RFC to run a bit longer and if that doesn't garner more than the anemic participation it has gotten so far then we can move on to other solutions.--Isotope23 19:40, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
Oh the humanity!
In other words, because you do not or cannot get the most widely used music service in the world, (iTunes) which happens to carry 16 reviews of Nysted's first album on it including the AMG review and disclaimor from AMG and iTunes, you cannot verify anything?
Let's look at this in a perspective that makes sense: if the administrators that are making up consensus on Misplaced Pages do not or cannot look at the very evidence requested, or required for accurate sourcing then how is anyone going to ever get to verification of anything save for what the administrators want to see? mmmmmhhh. Interesting, is it not?
How many other links are you unable to see? There are hundreds. The irony, however, is the fact that popularity is not to be used as a criteria for inclusion of content and the fact that you cannot look at the evidence anyway, sort of cancels you out as a decisive factor in all of this. Word. 67.163.7.227 20:07, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
- Having downloaded iTunes onto one of my junkboxes and viewing the link above, I am not surprisingly underwhelmed. There is a review cited to Allmusic Guide (which quite interestingly enough doesn't actually appear on AMG's own website) that makes no mention of Walker being on the album. The other 15 reviews you refer to are customer reviews... this in now way even comes close to reliable sources establishing that this album is in any way a notable addition to Walker's discography. Sorry, try again. Now if you excuse me I have to clean my junkbox of iTunes.--Isotope23 23:43, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
- Oh and really now... this is a discussion of album cites... I think a Hindenburg reference is a bit of hyperbole no?--Isotope23 23:46, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
It is quite appropriate for the crash and burn of your logic. Face it Mr. Powers, it has failed. You lost your argument back at popularity and not using content in an RFC. Notability is not about reviews, even though I am giving you plenty. You are grasping at straws so as to to not succumb to obeying the guidelines and policies that made you an administrator. Try the Orchard link Mr./Ms. Isotope. That gives you hundreds to choose from. Good luck. The RFC is not happening.
Walker shut his site down so you don't even have that now. The whole information section at the bottom of the article is all about the Pumpkins, and nothing about Walker. That will go. Get rid of Ashtar and Cupcakes, there is no foundation save for MP3 and a MySpace site. Yes it is about Matt and his discography that is dwindling fast. 67.163.7.227 01:19, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
- Ha ha ha... you crack me up. Notability is absolutely about reviews, press, etc. If nobody is paying any attention to the album and the fact that Walker played on it, how in the world can you claim it is notable? I've looked at the Orchard link and that also offers nothing compelling. Sorry, but I don't see any reason to deviate from the current RFC process regardless of your argument that it isn't valid in this case. If you've got a big problem with the RFC or you feel that I've somehow abused my admin status, the admin noticeboard is right here. As it stands, I'm making no edits to the article from this point on until the protection is lifted and the Nysted album mention is resolved.--Isotope23 12:32, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
all shellfish is saying is give peace a chance lol notable smotable it does not make a diff. man, cuz whateve mw did he did it makes no diff if the album sells or anyone knows about it like the artist example---matt played on an album it is part of his life you have verifiable proof how do you think unknowns become knowns? you guys are radless imo btw please do not do anything---that would be a great thing---i'll come back in the fall and see if you are still here--- signed not emo enough for you67.163.7.227 13:29, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
- Actually, from a Misplaced Pages sense it does make a difference. Unknowns can become knowns as you've put it... but Misplaced Pages should not be part of that progression; it is an encyclopedia, not a newspaper. Once something becomes notable, then it should be here. Otherwise it should not. Just because it is verifiable that Walker did something does not mean Misplaced Pages has to document it. I could give you countless examples of information that is absolutely verifiable, but doesn't need to be documented here. Like I said before though, I'm disengaging here for the time being because this conversation seems to be leading nowhere fast.--Isotope23 13:59, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
- Time to write during a coffee break: I just read your presentation(s) (this last week since I was blocked) in all of this (Walker+Nysted saga) and I must say, I find your actions not indicative of a bright editor, and you certainly seem bright enough, if not just a waste of time. You took an article about a drummer and his life and have joined forces with a cabal of administrators, a lawyer from Chicago with nothing better to do than slander Nysted (see his 2 month history) and you have removed or will force the removal of pieces from Matt's life that may important to his biography. Who cares if one of the artworks he participated in, isn't selling much, or never sells? He worked on the album in question. Did he not? That is all that matters to Matt's bio. Do you have verifiable proof from a reliable source? Collaborations are not new. It appears he took down his own web site. You went for a RFC when guidelines ask that content disputes be resolved by editors, not by your peers. By bringing up all the old Nysted news, you encouraged trigger happy administrators to come back from the Nysted grave to defend their "MySpace" positions and one fresh administrator even blocked our corporate IP address. For what? I am thankful that our court systems do not try and hang people based on what little you seem to be able to work with. I do not know if your RFC will bear fruit, I doubt it, but what I do know, is that smart minds watching this type of behavior, will simply walk away shaking their heads. In the time since your RFC and advertising the Nysted name, not Walker, you have how many likely takers? If Mr. Walker and Mr. Nysted indeed have an album together, and Mr. Nysted creates another work of art, I suspect you will be the one admitting that you spent wasted time defending nothing. One final thought: Think about discography like the places an artist lived and worked and the paintings that the artist painted. Does it matter that no one knows the towns or that some paintings were never seen by the world? The trees fell in the forest, Mr. Isoptope. You were not there to hear the sound. They did fall and there was sound.63.93.197.67 20:51, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
- I seem bright? Don't let me fool you... I'm nothing more than a jack-booted thug carrying out the will of Der Cabal.
- Joking aside, while I understand that you disagree with my actions, I am comfortable with them. If the RFC fails to resolve this then so be it, but I'm infinitely more comfortable having this decided by individuals who have no connection with Nysted or Walker either here or in person. If at some future date something that Walker and Nysted produce meets our guidelines I'd have no objection to it whatsoever. To me this isn't time wasted, but unlike some other individuals who have been involved in this conversation I don't see my time as money; it merely has sentimental value to me. Finally, in regards to your analogy, yes it does matter that some paintings were never seen by the world... at least from a Misplaced Pages sense. I don't know if you are familiar with Henry Darger, but he spent a large portion of his life writing a book that has never been published in its entirety along with numerous illustrations. Had he died and his things simply been boxed up the world would have taken no notice of him. As it were, his landlord found his work and ended up selling some of his illustrations at auction. If there were the end of the story, there would be some individuals out there who owned some fabulous pieces of outsider art, but there would be no reason to have a Misplaced Pages article about him. Given the fact though that Darger's work has been extensively written about and his life was the subject of a PBS documentary, he is notable in the Misplaced Pages article sense. Even if there were no Misplaced Pages article about him though, it wouldn't change his artistic legacy... he just wouldn't have an article here. Don't make that out to be more than it is.
- ...and if there was nobody around when that tree fell, I'd argue that it made no sound.--Isotope23 01:02, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Bright, but not very wise, I fear. Age is a factor for certain. Young people with very little life experience at anything, always seem to know the answers for everything. I had a suspicion you would end up opting for the ego maniac argument in the philosphy 101 class. Ego based and selfish people believe that without their presence in the universe, there is no sound.That is true for that person, if they turn to coal and have no soul. Nevertheless, Lee will end up just fine with or without the Misplaced Pages experiment. Matt will not play on Lee's second album which is being mastered tomorrow in Chicago at Colossal. Todd Sucherman from STYX plays all drums on the album. "Whispers of Wisdom" You could have read that in Citizendium if you had looked up user: Lee Nysted. I looked him up and I did read it there. It seems Mr. Nysted is welcome there. Maybe he will even write something. Probably not. I hear he has other people doing that most of the time. Best of luck to you. 12.35.96.66 03:51, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
- Don't be so quick to correlate age with wisdom... it's an assumption on your part how old I am and how much "life experience" I have. Somehow I think I exceed your assumptions on both counts, but that fact gives me no special claim to wisdom and I make none; nor have I ever claimed to have all, or even a considerable chunk of the "answers". Beyond that, your assumption of egotistical solipsism on my part is incorrect... but if you want to believe that is what my response meant, by all means interpret it that way. You are correct though, Lee will be just fine without any mention here; in the grand scheme of things it will not matter one way or another if he has a Misplaced Pages article.--Isotope23 13:09, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Comment: To age is to have experience, albeit, many people age without gaining any insight or "wisdom."
Experience is a required element in the paradigm of wisdom, to be sure. The way you breeze right by blatant and explicit facts, figures, guidelines, policies, and laws, underscores your desire to be "right" with or without thought to
what it ultimately means to this encyclopedia. It takes wisdom to know that what you are doing wastes time and accomplishes nothing. In the final analysis, you will look back at this RFC and all your rant about how Mr. Nysted is not notable, only to realize, the whole point was to improve on an article about Matt Walker. You see, there are also other players on the said album that Matt has been friends with since high school. Scott Bennett is playing with Brian Wilson and writing for Disney. Alan Berliant played with Matt and Scott in a band on and off for many years. When you take links out of peoples lives, you take away part of their bio. A full bio includes the person's life, discography and all things in between. It had very little to do with Mr. Nysted. As soon a Mr. Nysted's second album is released (within the next 2 months) to iTunes and the rest of the free world, he will have two albums out in circulation. (See Misplaced Pages guidelines for notability of musicians.) The rest is history. Matt will have Lee's album in his discography and all will be well with the universe. The kids from MySpace will go on to Psych. 201 and we pray will continue on their journey toward filling their 60 gig. ipods. I will edit on occasion, from here, or there. 63.93.197.67 13:26, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
- I have no desire to be "right"; that is why I opened an RFC... to allow this to be decided by editors who have no previous involvement here and who are ultimately neutral. Sorry, but I don't see that process as a waste of time, even if in the end it doesn't garner the intended result of generating some worthwhile independent feedback. Obviously we have a differing opinion as to what constitutes worthwhile biographical information. On a side note, the guideline you are referring to in regards to Nysted's albums is probably WP:MUSIC "Criteria for musicians and ensembles" #5... which requires 2 albums on a major label or important indie. I don't think he will meet that criteria even after his next release given the fact that his first album was released on his own label. Beyond that, the rest of your message is incomprehensible to me; I have no idea what MySpace, psychology courses, and iPods have to do with this.--Isotope23 13:51, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
Correction please: Nysted's music is released through The Orchard It is his label and it is also notable. They also happen to be the largest digital distributor in the world. (See Coldplay, etc.) http://www.TheOrchard.com (Go to "who we distribute.") You are confusing "publishing rights" with labels and distribution. Most successful musicians retain their own publishing rights, when and if they can. 63.93.197.67 14:08, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
- I understand the difference between a label, distributor, and publisher; my understanding was that NystedMusic was his label that his album was released under said label; if this is not the case then I am obviously mistaken. If the Orchard is his label or distributor, that might be a different scenario. The Orchard may or may not qualify as an important indie; I can't say I know enough about it at this point to have an opinion either way. Regardless that is a debate for another day and one I don't really see myself being involved in.--Isotope23 14:57, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
Here you go: Confusion is not an entirely unknown phenomenon when it comes to the "arts and sciences." http://www.billboard.com/bbcom/discography/index.jsp?pid=699660&aid=744269
The true source of confusion in the universe usually starts with a lack of willingness to admit that we are not at the center of same, or that there is a God, and we are not Him/Her. 63.93.197.67 15:23, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
- In this case the cause is considerably less metaphysical. Some of the sources I looked at list NytedMusic as the label his album was released on and make no mention of Orchard in relation to the album.--Isotope23 15:27, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
on nearly every site i have ever seen that is called WOW ! i see what is happening and it is amazing !67.163.7.227 03:58, 3 May 2007 (UTC) i guess the sites that shellfish listed would help if anyone looked-----ha ha http://www.theorchard.com/dist/artistPage.php?artist_id=57284 or you and oderdictum can use myspace and mp3 to leave non notable cupcakes and ishtar 67.163.7.227 01:15, 5 May 2007 (UTC) this one lists matt: http://www.theorchard.com/dist/releaseInfo.php?upc=669910450864 67.163.7.227 01:16, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
The RFC has "run it's course" and you did not get one objective person, inclusive of you, Mr. Isotope, to give reason why the Nysted album should be left out of Mr. Walker's discography. One editor states the necessary policy and you have ignored same. Further, you have left links and information that was mentioned as not at all referenced according to reliable sources, i.e., MP3.com and MySpace. This is hardly a finished issue, is it? 63.93.197.67 19:38, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
Claudette Colbert
Thanks for your comments and for reverting some edits. I have to admit that my patience is being stretched to breaking point and this editor seems completely unable to learn how to get along here. Mind you, he's stopped vandalising my talk page and insulting me in edit summaries, so that's a start ;-) Seriously, I've thought of doing a wholesale reversal of all recent edits but then I thought that there are some good ones hidden in there and to go through the whole thing would take more time than I can spare right now, but maybe in the next few days I'll have a closer look at it. There are just so many edits, more than 500 just in the last couple of months alone. I've tried wading through them but they breed faster than rabbits and it's too confusing. I would also support your idea for starting a discussion to ban. I think he's on his fourth user name in the last few months, so blocking the previous incarnations served no purpose at all. He's shown no interest in being part of a community - which is fine in itself - but he's resisted all attempts at discussion, and blatantly reverts anything he disagrees with. He still uses inaccurate edit summaries - I've challenged him on this before, but even in the last edits where he said he kept everything but the Mankiewicz comments, it just wasn't true. Normally I give people the benefit of the doubt, but I'm way past that point right now. I see you've semi-protected the article again after an anon IP suddenly read his mind, and made the same edits. The trick didn't work the last dozen times he tried it, and yet he tries it again. Very odd behaviour! Rossrs 13:23, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
- His being Japanese isn't the biggest problem but I suppose it is part of the issue. If he had a language problem and wanted someone to help him, there would have been plenty of editors willing to help, but there have been a number of instances where he has changed something from grammatically correct English into something very jarring and incorrect and has reverted attempts to correct the grammar, even though English is not his first language. That's arrogant in my view. There's no reason for him to be so confident in this regard that he is prepared to revert corrections to his use of English. I think he misses a lot of nuances in the English language, which may explain some of his edits, and some of his disagreements, as well as this edit summary which, I have to say, I found amusing. It must have sounded very unusual when he translated your comment into Japanese. Rossrs 14:34, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, the dingoes are a constant annoyance: when they're not busy stealing babies they're cutting off our cable, and usually when we're in the middle of a football game or a nice Claudette Colbert film. Rossrs 09:35, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
thank u
u seem rele nice 2 give me a second chance!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Oh yes it's me (talk • contribs) 15:32, 30 April 2007 (UTC).
hey??
r u a real person or r u a robot? my friend dat is right next 2 me says u r a robot
snowball's chance
I was directed to wp:snow by another user and don't quite understand it. What is this policy saying? Can you shed some light here? I know I've been leaning on you alot recently for information, and I appreciate your patience with me. Trigam41 20:09, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
- There's some confusion going in in the conversation that brought up WP:SNOW. See discussion here for more details. I put the db-nonsense on an earlier version of the article with a slightly different title, while Trigam41 I believe made his statement based on reading a later version. Hatch68 21:59, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Composers
Please take some time to review WP:OWN. Greetab (talk · contribs) is not a "guest"; he is an editor just like you or I.--Isotope23 17:32, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
- Yes, you are right, My use of the word 'guest' was inappropriate. Thanks for the reminder. Next time I'll consider your Voltaire quote before I get involved in this kind of situation! Regards. --Kleinzach 22:56, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
Shock site protection
- Link: Shock site
Hey Isotope23, there's been a request on RFPP to either downgrade the protection on this article or remove it completely, seeing as it's currently on AFD and should be freed up for users to improve the article during the course of the discussion. Would you object to unprotection? Cheers, – Riana ऋ 10:50, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for getting back to me! I've dropped it to semiprotection for now. Cheers :) – Riana ऋ 13:09, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
ExpertSatellite
How should I proceed in readding the page without getting it deleted again ? How can I have you look over it ? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bin asc (talk • contribs) 13:23, 1 May 2007 (UTC).
Bette Davis
Could I ask you a small favour? Could you please have a look at this edit which I think has been copied and pasted from Colbert to Davis only to make a point. Aside from the fact that it contains irrelevant info, it also duplicates some facts that are already in the very paragraph it was inserted into. I don't think the author took the time to actually read anything, that would be a little too sensible. This editor is getting under my skin tonight more than usual, and I think I need to step away, before I allow my irritation to draw me into a 3RR situation. Thanks. Rossrs 14:23, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
- Expunged... ugh.--Isotope23 14:34, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
- Expunged is a great word. Thank you! Rossrs 14:49, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
My (Selket's) RfA
Thank you, Isotope23, for your support on my recent RfA, which recently passed 54/1/1. I hope I can live up to everyone's expectations. I will certainly take the constructive criticism I recieved to heart. Please, if you have any comments or complaints about my actions as an administrator, leave a note on my talk page. Thank you again· --Selket 18:41, 1 May 2007 (UTC) |
MDX
You don't know who you are messing with. From User:Melbourne DX
Thanks...
...for clearing up the vandalism on my user page. I really appreciate it :-) P.B. Pilhet 03:08, 3 May 2007 (UTC) No problem.--Isotope23 13:10, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
Thanks.
Thank you for what you did with Prussian Blue (duo). That was such an easy problem to fix, and now I feel like an idiot because it was simple. I am sorry I reported it to the administrator's noticeboard. I'll know better next time. Acalamari 19:24, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
MySpace Events
I was going to rewrite it but you obviously didn't give me anytime to put hangon or anything. Can you put it back so i can fix it? Martini833 19:47, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
User:Ygr1
Do you intend to indefinitely block this user and all his socks? There seems to be ample consensus to do so. If not, I suggest removing the five-day-old discussion from the community sanction noticeboard. --Tony Sidaway 01:45, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
- He seems to be editing again under the names I posted to the Community Sanction Noticeboard. By the way, he has also taken an interest in editing Ingrid Bergman-related materials, in addition to Claudette Colbert film articles. --PhantomS 04:09, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
- He also seems to be editing with the username Soonpush (talk · contribs). --PhantomS 04:09, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
Expertsatellite
Ok, I did the page in my sandbox, please check it out, having in mind DirecTv`s page too, which, from my opinion has blatant advertising too. Anyhow, I only want my page to be up. :)
integrating
I integrated the trivia section into the body of the article but I was reverted. I do not understand. I was following your advise. Any suggestions. :) - Mr.Gurü (/contribs) 18:02, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
- I responded at the article talkpage.--Isotope23 18:43, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks. Still need your help though. :) - Mr.Gurü (/contribs) 18:47, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
- I responded at the article talkpage.--Isotope23 18:43, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
Re: Alansohn
Thanks for your help. Certainly my own degree of civility in discussions with Alansohn is nothing about which to write home, but the sensible thing to do in such circumstances is to walk away and cool off. That being said, he's certainly a dedicated editor and I wouldn't prefer to see him blocked, so here's hoping. RGTraynor 21:03, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
ANI
This might show which group of editors could be described as a "cabal". One Night In Hackney303 15:57, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not taking sides here. The old saying goes that it takes two to tango and it appears there are two groups of editors who have a real issue with each other and this is spilling out into all sorts of AFDs etc. It needs to stop.--Isotope23 16:00, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not asking anyone to take sides. The evidence is there for anyone that chooses to look at it. One Night In Hackney303 16:01, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
- Also, I've suggested a compromise to this on Nick's talk page, just waiting for him to look over that page first. One Night In Hackney303 16:02, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
- I'm not suggesting you were asking me too... my point is that from where I stand, I see general silliness that borders on disruption from editors on both sides of the divide. At this point formalized mediation or dispute resolution is probably the logical next step.--Isotope23 16:04, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
- I don't consider nominating John Alves Arbuthnot for deletion to be disruptive, and as can be seen by the ongoing AfD it's mostly the usual suspects who are documented in the page above arguing that the page should be kept, and claiming it's bad faith. If I'd nominated John Arbuthnot that would most definitely be bad faith. If other people want to push for DR that's fine by me, as people will really struggle to find many examples of me editing in a disruptive way, I'd rather spend my time more constructively. Had KB not created that template today I'd probably have carried on improving Real IRA, which looked like this before I started editing it. My time is spent more constructively like that, rather than getting dragged into disputes that are really nothing to do with me. Have a look at the deleted history of Seamus Clarke, and see how prodded it. Have a look at how I voted in these Irish republican AfDs:
- All those "merge" votes make the "cabal" accusations look a bit silly don't you think? One Night In Hackney303 16:15, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
No problem
No problem at all. Hope to see it up to GA someday soon. DoomsDay349 20:06, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
History of the State of Israel
I noticed that you deleted massive portions of History of the State of Israel. I understand your logic, but I am going to revert your edits. Be Bold, but in this case, I think it went perhaps a little too far. I would be a pity to loose so much information. You might want to discuss this on the talk page first. I might consider splitting the page - if you are interested, that may be a better solution. J Are you green? 00:36, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
- Didn't notice that! Sorry. J Are you green? 00:40, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
Wow! :)
When I saw RfA thanks at AN/I I thought, "whaaaaa...?" That was perhaps the funniest thing I've ever seen on our otherwise utterly boring Noticeboard, dear Iso ;) Have a wonderful day! Phaedriel - 14:15, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
Please check out my talk page
I have striked out my own uncivil behavior. I was not watching his page so I didn't know and I let my anger get the best of me. Sorry. --Crohnie 22:41, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
Quick Question
If an article is deleted and it is written again, but the second time it actually is noteworthy and follows the rules and guidelines of wiki standards does that article still get deleted? JoeyC5 00:36, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
Old offer still outstanding?
Many moons ago you offered to nominate me for adminship if I was interested. At the time I declined, for various reasons. Anyways, these days I sometimes find myself with free time for editing that might well be used to clearing backlogs and the like. If you're offer to nominate me still stands, I'd gratefully and humblely accept. WilyD 13:16, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks - no hurry, I'm supposed to be writing a thesis proposal anyhow. ;) WilyD 14:22, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
- Isotope23 - No, that actually seems like a pretty fair summary - anything I want said about myself I can say myself - that's probably a more honest way to do it. Thanks for the nom and the confidence in me. WilyD
- Thanks - I should be done before noon. WilyD 14:51, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks - I think it's good to go. I really appreciate all of this, FWIW. WilyD 15:09, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
- If it's not too much of an imposition, I'd just like to thank you one last time for the nomination and support. WilyD 15:28, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
- Isotope23 - No, that actually seems like a pretty fair summary - anything I want said about myself I can say myself - that's probably a more honest way to do it. Thanks for the nom and the confidence in me. WilyD
Thanks
Of course, I see that they've opened up a RfC instead (smacks forehead). I hate to be unkind.. but I'm beginning to think the two groups deserve each other, preferably, if I had my druthers, in a place where they can't pull others into their war. Should I immediately archive the material, or is that being too bold? SirFozzie 19:10, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Yup. I agree with you there. They're not going to stop warring unless one side or both are blocked from continuing it. SirFozzie 19:21, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
Response to a Question You Asked Me In February
You asked how a girl from Maryland specializes in Detroit Garage? Passion, research and the internet. www.motorcityrcks.com is a great resource, as is littleroom.whitestripes.net, a White Stripes messageboard. jigwashere
- I know quite a bit, but I'm not as knowledgable as some. My friend Corwin, who I go see a lot of shows with, is friends with Ben Blackwell and was interviewed for "It Came From Detroit" but I don't know if he actually made it into the documentary. That's so cool that you got served by Meg White!
Warhammer 40,0000 graphic novels
Dangnabit, I just know you're going to protect the the wrong version ! ; ) --GentlemanGhost 17:06, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
- User:SanchiTachi/Graphic_Novels
That is the correct version of the page.
user:Someguy0830 is currently Wikistalking. Furthermore, the name (Graphic Novels) is a proper title of a series of books by Warhammer 40,000 and needs to follow the naming convention of the Warhammer wikigroup. Other such works, like Sisters of Battle (Warhammer 40,000) and Emperor of Mankind (Warhammer 40,000) can show you the naming convention in its fullest effect. SanchiTachi 17:13, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
- Please provide where the title conflicts, as Graphic Novels is a proper noun, not graphic novels the genre, produced by the company (Warhammer 40,000) for that game. Thanks. SanchiTachi 17:32, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
- Misplaced Pages:Naming_conventions#Lowercase_second_and_subsequent_words_in_titles Graphic Novels is a name in this case: "Convention: Do not capitalize second and subsequent words unless the title is a proper noun (such as a name)"
You know, it is extremely rude for you to claim a page needs a rewrite when it was moved just 4 hours after it was created and had tons of people suddenly come in to complain before things were even filled in completely! Gesh. Try reading WP:EQ before posting again, because I think you need a refresher on how to treat new pages. SanchiTachi 19:09, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
- The person who suggested it was a list (user Someguy), and his friends, are wikistalkers who are not part of either project. Please note that, and realize that he and his friends are going out of their way to try and harass me any way they can. I would have been able to produce more information on the project, contributors to the project, miniatures in the project, etc, but I have been dealing with these issues. SanchiTachi 19:23, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
User:SanchiTachi/Graphic Novels Current about a quarter of the way done. Still have to add in White Dwarf articles, other reviews, more miniatures, and the rules for the rpg game/miniature "chapter approved". I put this here so you can see what the page was intended to be, and how its a slow process trying to create it all. I also lack some of the resources (I only have so many of the White Dwarf) which was why it was put up so the warhammer community could join in. I have since contacted the Warhammer wiki to take the page and will probably stop bothering to put forth it here. They want to create a list page discussing only the comics, but that already exists, so they are going to be SOL when someone realizes the redundancy. SanchiTachi 18:00, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
HMMM...
Did Apostrophe come and whine to you? How cute.--Roxas 00:41, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
AfD closing - question
On May 25 you closed this AfD on Gay Left. You wrote that the AfD was withdrawn by the nominator, which would presumably mean a "keep", but the article is now a red link, as are Gay Left and Gay Left Collective, alternative titles suggested by one "keep" voter. Did someone come along and speedy the article after an AfD in which everyone favored keeping it? Something seems amiss here. JamesMLane t c 07:37, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks for clarifying the copyvio deletion. I hope someone will eventually go back to those sources and use them for a noncopyvio article. JamesMLane t c 14:34, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Anubiz
I know Anubiz, You came to that conclusion becouse of what? Bluefire princess 15:10, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Well you guess wrong, I don't know him. Bluefire princess 15:25, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Who dosn't like bannas? Bluefire princess 16:00, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
- Personally, I can't stand them...--Isotope23 16:02, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
I do but, I did not like you replasing my page with it. Anubiz 16:12, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
Are you watching her? Just asking. Anubiz 12:35, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Rock & Roll Library
I added Rock & Roll Library today. I am new to wiki and would like to fix whatever needs fixin but I'm not totally sure what the problem is. I created a talk page there but I'm not totally clear on how things work here. I understand that you nominated it to be deleted (a bot told me so) so I'm here to find out what I need to do. I had a less than helpful exchange with someone earlier today and explicitly asked for help with none to be had. Someone else told me not to post external links to rocklibrary.com so I stopped (even though they're a good independent source for info). But I don't understand why now the entry is going to be deleted. If you read it you will see that they are an established nonprofit organization with a free website, do a lot of relevant work in music and work with well established artists and songs. Can you help me out here? What do I need to do? --Teamplayer007 04:40, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Vandalism on the talk page
Hi, Isotope23.
There's a problem with user:Giovanni Giove.
On the talk page of the article Republic of Dubrovnik, he removed the warning text about his behaviour on article page.
The warning is made in order to make him change his behaviour.
His behaviour is listed in the section "Shtokavian" .
In that very sections is a list of his POV's (he gave no background for his "original work"; I've covered my contributions with references - that makes his contribution a POV), which prooved his ignoring of the data and links to academical institutions given on the talk page (in the sections above).
The warning about his behaviour (on the talk page) should stay (multiple reverts).
He should have a reminder that he's working against the rules.
Maybe the matter of the article isn't your "territory", but the admin's reaction is needed on the talk page. Because... he's now removing the evidence of his behaviour. Kubura 12:20, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
- My opinion is that we are beyond any possible limit. Kubura has became a serious problem. He just spread his own ideas, doing vandalism on well supported articles. His target is to support his nationalistic ideas without proper refernceahould. He accuse me to "hate" Croatia and oter... There is a difference between him and me. I my edits are supported, Kubura's edit no. He open agin and again, dispuutes already discussed and closed. A small example.... to change "Repulic of Ragusa" into "Republic of Dubrovnik". The above comments are (of course) false. Kubura is well known to several admins, like a fanatic. I've no probelm if my edits will be put under control: I've nothing to hide. I sholuld not tell the same aout Kubura. I want to pint out that Kubura was NEVER able to show that my edits are wrong, all he can do is to accuse that "I want to hide the word'Croatia'". But he can't support this claim. Best regards--Giovanni Giove 13:03, 30 May 2007 (UTC)