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| *'''Keep''' It's clearly a term that's used in Estonian literature and so the nominator's rationale for deletion - that it was a neologism invented by the article's creator - is false. ] 04:18, 10 June 2007 (UTC) | *'''Keep''' It's clearly a term that's used in Estonian literature and so the nominator's rationale for deletion - that it was a neologism invented by the article's creator - is false. ] 04:18, 10 June 2007 (UTC) | ||
| *'''Keep''' - needs huge improvement, but if this is indeed a translation of Ärkamisaeg, then the subject itself is notable, valid, backed up by references, etc. ] 06:06, 10 June 2007 (UTC) | *'''Keep''' - needs huge improvement, but if this is indeed a translation of Ärkamisaeg, then the subject itself is notable, valid, backed up by references, etc. ] 06:06, 10 June 2007 (UTC) | ||
| :*I speak both Estonian and English, and I can vouch for 'Age of Awakening' being the translation of 'Ärkamisaeg'. 'Estonian' is a qualifier to distinguish this phenomenon from other Ages of Awakening. The main translation field is ''<nowiki>(Age|Era|Time|Period) of Awakening|</nowiki>''. (Standard ] rules apply.) ] 09:03, 10 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Keep''' as a term with what appears to be considerable currency in Estonian-language sources regarding a verifiable time period. ] - ] 06:26, 10 June 2007 (UTC) | *'''Keep''' as a term with what appears to be considerable currency in Estonian-language sources regarding a verifiable time period. ] - ] 06:26, 10 June 2007 (UTC) | ||
| : This is an English language encyclopaedia. If a wikipedian likes to introduce a new term into English historiography, this constitutes a breach of ]. No evidence has been presented that the term is notable in English-language publications. --]<sup>]</sup> 08:11, 10 June 2007 (UTC) | : This is an English language encyclopaedia. If a wikipedian likes to introduce a new term into English historiography, this constitutes a breach of ]. No evidence has been presented that the term is notable in English-language publications. --]<sup>]</sup> 08:11, 10 June 2007 (UTC) | ||
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| *'''Keep''' Oy, forget exactly what it's called - that's why we have redirects. By now it's clear that this period exists as a historical construct, and it's possible to write intelligent prose about it. But this is most definitely NOT a bad-faith nom; given those web search results, I would have listed it myself. :) ]] 08:16, 10 June 2007 (UTC) | *'''Keep''' Oy, forget exactly what it's called - that's why we have redirects. By now it's clear that this period exists as a historical construct, and it's possible to write intelligent prose about it. But this is most definitely NOT a bad-faith nom; given those web search results, I would have listed it myself. :) ]] 08:16, 10 June 2007 (UTC) | ||
| :*You're speaking from a position of contextlessness. If it was true that ] was in a similar position, ] would be in order. However, he is not; he has shown consistent interest in Estonia-related topics and thus, can be reasonably expected to know about one of the major periods of ]. (For a brief overview, see ].) Thus, he has knowingly made a false nomination for deletion. ] 09:03, 10 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
| *'''Keep''', as per ]. ]'s bad faith is, for example, displayed in wanton quotation marks in the Google query provided. ] 09:03, 10 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
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Estonian Age of Awakening
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- Archetypal original research. The term has no currency in English-language historical literature. Seems to have been coined by the author of this article. Misplaced Pages is not a proper place for introducing neologisms. --Ghirla 20:31, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
- Delete. --Ghirla 20:32, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
- BTW, note the tiny difference in search term and difference in results. --Alexia Death 22:53, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
- Search for disparate terms does not prove anything. This is beyond discussion. --Ghirla 22:57, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
- Look at the first book it points to. It talks about this very period.--Alexia Death 23:00, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
- Also gives to references to "Age of awakening" in the context of Estonians. I hpe this makes you see that I have not made this term up.--Alexia Death 23:04, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
- Look at the first book it points to. It talks about this very period.--Alexia Death 23:00, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
- Search for disparate terms does not prove anything. This is beyond discussion. --Ghirla 22:57, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
- Strong Keep The term is a direct translation from Estonian "Ärkamisaeg". It is used pessistently in estonian literature and history books. google search shows it a lot. I do not understand the desire to remove this stub. IT needs expanding but has nothing that warrants deletion.--Alexia Death 22:49, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
- If anything is wrong with the title and the current one is not considered to be proper English term then a move is in order, not an AFD. The period on question is in now way "coined by the author of this article". I learned about it from my history books in school.--Alexia Death 23:00, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
- Keep this search produces some results so the stub has chances to develop into something useful Alex Bakharev 01:29, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
- Note: This debate has been included in the list of Language-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 02:16, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
- Keep It's clearly a term that's used in Estonian literature and so the nominator's rationale for deletion - that it was a neologism invented by the article's creator - is false. Nick mallory 04:18, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
- Keep - needs huge improvement, but if this is indeed a translation of Ärkamisaeg, then the subject itself is notable, valid, backed up by references, etc. Biruitorul 06:06, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
- I speak both Estonian and English, and I can vouch for 'Age of Awakening' being the translation of 'Ärkamisaeg'. 'Estonian' is a qualifier to distinguish this phenomenon from other Ages of Awakening. The main translation field is (Age|Era|Time|Period) of Awakening|. (Standard BNF rules apply.) Digwuren 09:03, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
- Keep as a term with what appears to be considerable currency in Estonian-language sources regarding a verifiable time period. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 06:26, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
- This is an English language encyclopaedia. If a wikipedian likes to introduce a new term into English historiography, this constitutes a breach of WP:NOR. No evidence has been presented that the term is notable in English-language publications. --Ghirla 08:11, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
- Keep. Clearly bad-faith AfD nomination. DLX 07:40, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
- Keep Oy, forget exactly what it's called - that's why we have redirects. By now it's clear that this period exists as a historical construct, and it's possible to write intelligent prose about it. But this is most definitely NOT a bad-faith nom; given those web search results, I would have listed it myself. :) YechielMan 08:16, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
- You're speaking from a position of contextlessness. If it was true that Ghirlandajo was in a similar position, WP:AGF would be in order. However, he is not; he has shown consistent interest in Estonia-related topics and thus, can be reasonably expected to know about one of the major periods of history of Estonia. (For a brief overview, see History of Estonia#Part of Imperial Russia.) Thus, he has knowingly made a false nomination for deletion. Digwuren 09:03, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
- Keep, as per DLX. Ghirlandajo's bad faith is, for example, displayed in wanton quotation marks in the Google query provided. Digwuren 09:03, 10 June 2007 (UTC)