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I think the first mention of his name should be in full? As in "Muhammad ibn Abdullah". ] 02:25, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
I think the first mention of his name should be in full? As in "Muhammad ibn Abdullah". ] 02:25, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
==Images of Prophet Mohammad PBUH.==
==Images of Prophet Mohammad PBUH.==
the images should be removed from the article as those fake images taking the article no where and even all the muslims cant bear the endurance as you know what happened when in french newspaper we have seen the images of Mohammad Peace be upon him.we are demanding to remove the images only & for the article we have no comments try to face realism the pictures posted here not true. Kashif Sagheer Ahmed 7:40 13/06/007
the images should be removed from the article as those fake images taking the article no where and even all the muslims cant bear the endurance as you know what happened when in french newspaper we have seen the images of Mohammad Peace be upon him.we are demanding to remove the images only & for the article we have no comments try to face realism the pictures posted here not true. Kashif Sagheer Ahmed 7:40 13/06/007
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: '''Please sign in at ]'''. We will work together in case we have many people (upto 15) thinking on the same lines. Wassalam --- ] 07:19, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
::Oh for crying out loud, Kashif Ahmed, what's wrong with you? What racism? In what way was TharkunColl being racist? Do you even know what ] is? All he said is that the pictures stay. How is that racism? Look, I understand that Muhammad is a holy guy to you and that you seem to worship him, but, as it is right now, this is a Misplaced Pages entry about Muhammad. This is not meant to be some kind of religious article about Muhammad; the purpose with this article is to be a well informed, encyclopaedic article about a historic figure, with whatever information available—pictures included. You might find the pictures depicting Muhammad objectionable, but Misplaced Pages isn't about censorship. Whatever the case, the pictures stay, and that's not racism. Knock it off with this ridiculous victim-mentality. ]|] 12:12, 14 Jun, 2007 (UTC)
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The rationale behind the request is: "An important Article about an important person".
Muhammad was one of the good articles, but it has been removed from the list. There are suggestions below for improving the article to meet the good article criteria. Once these issues have been addressed, the article can be renominated. Editors may also seek a reassessment of the decision if they believe there was a mistake.
the images should be removed from the article as those fake images taking the article no where and even all the muslims cant bear the endurance as you know what happened when in french newspaper we have seen the images of Mohammad Peace be upon him.we are demanding to remove the images only & for the article we have no comments try to face realism the pictures posted here not true. Kashif Sagheer Ahmed 7:40 13/06/007
Please feel free to issue demands, and threats of violence, as much as you like; you merely condemn yourself. The images will not be removed, because they improve the article. All important historical figures in Misplaced Pages have pictures, even though in most cases the pictures are not contemporary. But even more importantly, Misplaced Pages is not censored, and does not submit to the dictates of any religion. TharkunColl07:51, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
Actually, he has a point. Kashif may not have expressed himself well, but he has a point. Even if we disregard religious sensitivity, the two picture with Muhammad's face revealed come from 1315 and the 15th century. I do not think any artist who saw Muhammad lived that long. I politely request that these two images in particular be removed, or at least the face be blurred.Unflavoured03:43, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
my freind we are not threatening its your way to see things i am tilting your mind towards the things that are not good & you are the one who is leading the fire for muslims by saying bad things towards us & every body can see i am requesting only & you better check your attitude that so many times you've crossed the limit of decency. & kindly avoid the factors of Racism and we are not dictating it is our right you know very well how anyone can dictate you this is only an agression towards muslims from your side like you've abused our prophet by using very bad words. what it reflects, is that you got some problem with us any how i will keep on working by demanding to remove the (FAKE) images as he is our prophet & we dont want his images to be published in this way & dont create a big issue of such a small thing as if you'll remove the images from the page nothing will hurt the importance of an article if it is in this way the bible should have the images then to prove its importance & truthfulness.
& yes if you got the real images feel free to post it here.
Kashif Ahmed.7:22 14/06/007
The Muslims do not own Muhammad; he is an important figure in history for the entire human race, for good or ill - like Julius Caesar, Attila the Hun, Genghis Khan, Adolf Hitler, or indeed any other military and religious leader. Muslims therefore have no right whatsoever to dictate what goes into this article. And is it abusing Muhammad to speak the truth? Did he, or did he not, marry a 6 year old girl? Does that, or does it not, make him a paedophile? TharkunColl08:55, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Kashif Ahmed, why dont u register your name ?! Wikipedians in general are highly biased AGAINST those who register. Then we can have a fair discussion with whoever wants to discuss these images.Unflavoured04:55, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
The article does not claim that these images are an exact likeness, rather they are perceptions of his likeness made after his life was long over. This is obvious to anyone viewing the article. The images are not attacks on Mohammad either in the way they were rendered or in the way they are displayed in the article. Note that the article on Jesus also includes images of him that were created several centuries after his death. The "controversial" images displayed in the Dutch newspaper, Jyllands-Posten, are not included in this article. Further, please note that Misplaced Pages intends to be an encyclopedia, not a holy text that as to "prove its importance and truthfulness." These images are important to this article because the article discusses the important topic of the representation of Mohammad over time. The images are not distasteful, rather they included as part of an encyclopedic discussion of history and art history. --Strothra04:50, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
i am already registered here but it seems that you are right. but my my freind we got to do something as it is hurting & disturbing.Kashif Ahmed.--Noshikashi.06:48, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Oh for crying out loud, Kashif Ahmed, what's wrong with you? What racism? In what way was TharkunColl being racist? Do you even know what racism is? All he said is that the pictures stay. How is that racism? Look, I understand that Muhammad is a holy guy to you and that you seem to worship him, but, as it is right now, this is a Misplaced Pages entry about Muhammad. This is not meant to be some kind of religious article about Muhammad; the purpose with this article is to be a well informed, encyclopaedic article about a historic figure, with whatever information available—pictures included. You might find the pictures depicting Muhammad objectionable, but Misplaced Pages isn't about censorship. Whatever the case, the pictures stay, and that's not racism. Knock it off with this ridiculous victim-mentality. EliasAlucard|Talk 12:12, 14 Jun, 2007 (UTC)
I'm of the opinion that this article should mention his Assyrian monk teacher, and it would be great if any of you Islam experts could help out improving that article. Thanks. EliasAlucard|Talk 22:19, 13 Jun, 2007 (UTC)
