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:Misplaced Pages isn't about impressing people, Gordon. FuelWagon isn't adding links to his site.--] 23:19, 16 May 2005 (UTC) :Misplaced Pages isn't about impressing people, Gordon. FuelWagon isn't adding links to his site.--] 23:19, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

== The infamous non-win supreme court case ==

One can't help but notice the number of references to GW and his 4-3 trouncing in the Florida Supreme Court. He throws it up at us in nearly every other paragraph:
:"''...like what I did in court'',"
:"''I was the most successful litigant on the "losing" side...'',"
:"''ompare how well I did in court with the lame governor...'',"
:"''I did better than Jeb...'',"
:"''...and let me remind you that I got further than both Conigliaro and Bush combined, in my near win in court...'',"
:"''and let's not forget that I played a central role in the Schiavo case, and, in some instances did better than the Florida Governor in court...'',"
:"''... if my success in court was so great...'',"
:"''...how does everybody think I got to where I am today with my near win in court?'',"
:"''et's not forget that I came closer than the Florida Governor to having saved Terri in court...'',"
:"''ace it: I came very close to winning in court in the most celebrated case of the century...'',"
:"''... the fellow who almost won in court...'',"
:"''...who exactly did better than me in court in trying to save Terri...'',"
:"''...my achievement in court was ''better'' than that of the big players...'',"
:"''...he who was not equaled in court in efforts to save Terri...'',"

Those are just the ones I could find in a hurry. Almost every editor who has a talk page will have one or more of the same sort of self aggrandizing hooey.

I finally (I wish I had done it sooner) took a look at this ''celebrated'' and ''unprecedented'' court case and here is what I found (you can see for yourself by going to the page and search under SC03-2420):

Gordo filed a motion of habeus corpus and at the same time filed an affidavit of indigency (translation: too cheap to pay the fee). Unfortunately, Gordo didn't bother to find out the proper way to file and the court struck his motion, although they gave him ten days to refile properly. The next day Gordo filed a Notice of Supplemental Authority and an Appendix. The first was stricken because it didn't comply with court rules (a theme that will be repeated).

Almost a month later (and fifteen days late) Gordo filed his amended motion for habeus corpus, an amended appendix, a cover letter, and a motion for time extension.

On 23 Feb, 2005, the court denied the motion for habeus corpus due to failure to comply with the court's directed timetable and struck all related motions as moot.

Then Gordo filed a motion for reinstatement (one day late—what a surprise), which was also a concurrent motion for clarification, both of which were denied.

Gordo filed a motion for a stay pending review, a motion to expedite, and a motion to file electronically (these motions). The court granted the motion to file electronically but denied the other two motions because they had been rendered moot by the denial of the motion for reinstatement.

Gordo then filed a motion for clarification which was stricken as unauthorized.

Now if you had trouble following that, let me help. The court never considered the facts of the motion. They dismissed it as untimely. The only motion they actually considered (other than the lowly motion to file electronically) was the motion to reinstate the motion for habeus corpus. That motion (to reinstate) was the one the court turned down 4-3.

So comparing this case to Bush's appeal to overturn a decision of the Court of Appeals, is laughable. It's pure fantasy to draw any comparison at all. Hearings were held and facts were argued in the Bush case. The Florida Supreme Court upheld the appeals court. It was Bush's appeal for reinstatement that was overturned 7-0.

For Gordo to trumpet that he got farther or closer than Bush is pure nonsense. For icing on the cake, Gordo uttered this classic, "''...but probably they would not have even considered my case...''" Hello! They '''didn't''' consider your case. It got thrown out as untimely and improperly filed.

I just thought you'd like to know that it is a matter public record that Gordo is a legend in his own mind. ] 20:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)

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I answered your post on my page at:

http://en.wikipedia.org/User_talk:GordonWattsDotCom#Your_beefs_and_your_errors

Gordon Watts in Lakeland, Florida --GordonWattsDotCom_In_Florida 19:35, 11 May 2005 (UTC)

Linking to His Own Site(s)

I picked up on a little bit of that from the Talk page.

Some people here are unbelievable.

Take a look at the Marla Ruzicka Talk: page for some more wingnuttery on parade.

--AStanhope 04:47, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

Automatic GW reverts

he's become quite the verbose and pesky varmint... FuelWagon 02:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

While there may be sympathizers to your POV, you are not in the majority; sit tight and chill.

Duck, I answer your concerns at this diff, which would link to: if the page is not modified by the time you click on it. --GordonWattsDotCom_In_Florida 10:45, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Wagon, if you want to impress us with your accomplishments or research in the Schiavo case, post them on the talk page, but unjustified criticism of another's accomplishments makes not your own. --GordonWattsDotCom_In_Florida 10:45, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages isn't about impressing people, Gordon. FuelWagon isn't adding links to his site.--Fangz 23:19, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

The infamous non-win supreme court case

One can't help but notice the number of references to GW and his 4-3 trouncing in the Florida Supreme Court. He throws it up at us in nearly every other paragraph:

"...like what I did in court,"
"I was the most successful litigant on the "losing" side...,"
"ompare how well I did in court with the lame governor...,"
"I did better than Jeb...,"
"...and let me remind you that I got further than both Conigliaro and Bush combined, in my near win in court...,"
"and let's not forget that I played a central role in the Schiavo case, and, in some instances did better than the Florida Governor in court...,"
"... if my success in court was so great...,"
"...how does everybody think I got to where I am today with my near win in court?,"
"et's not forget that I came closer than the Florida Governor to having saved Terri in court...,"
"ace it: I came very close to winning in court in the most celebrated case of the century...,"
"... the fellow who almost won in court...,"
"...who exactly did better than me in court in trying to save Terri...,"
"...my achievement in court was better than that of the big players...,"
"...he who was not equaled in court in efforts to save Terri...,"

Those are just the ones I could find in a hurry. Almost every editor who has a talk page will have one or more of the same sort of self aggrandizing hooey.

I finally (I wish I had done it sooner) took a look at this celebrated and unprecedented court case and here is what I found (you can see for yourself by going to the Supreme Court Docket Search page and search under SC03-2420):

Gordo filed a motion of habeus corpus and at the same time filed an affidavit of indigency (translation: too cheap to pay the fee). Unfortunately, Gordo didn't bother to find out the proper way to file and the court struck his motion, although they gave him ten days to refile properly. The next day Gordo filed a Notice of Supplemental Authority and an Appendix. The first was stricken because it didn't comply with court rules (a theme that will be repeated).

Almost a month later (and fifteen days late) Gordo filed his amended motion for habeus corpus, an amended appendix, a cover letter, and a motion for time extension.

On 23 Feb, 2005, the court denied the motion for habeus corpus due to failure to comply with the court's directed timetable and struck all related motions as moot.

Then Gordo filed a motion for reinstatement (one day late—what a surprise), which was also a concurrent motion for clarification, both of which were denied.

Gordo filed a motion for a stay pending review, a motion to expedite, and a motion to file electronically (these motions). The court granted the motion to file electronically but denied the other two motions because they had been rendered moot by the denial of the motion for reinstatement.

Gordo then filed a motion for clarification which was stricken as unauthorized.

Now if you had trouble following that, let me help. The court never considered the facts of the motion. They dismissed it as untimely. The only motion they actually considered (other than the lowly motion to file electronically) was the motion to reinstate the motion for habeus corpus. That motion (to reinstate) was the one the court turned down 4-3.

So comparing this case to Bush's appeal to overturn a decision of the Court of Appeals, is laughable. It's pure fantasy to draw any comparison at all. Hearings were held and facts were argued in the Bush case. The Florida Supreme Court upheld the appeals court. It was Bush's appeal for reinstatement that was overturned 7-0.

For Gordo to trumpet that he got farther or closer than Bush is pure nonsense. For icing on the cake, Gordo uttered this classic, "...but probably they would not have even considered my case..." Hello! They didn't consider your case. It got thrown out as untimely and improperly filed.

I just thought you'd like to know that it is a matter public record that Gordo is a legend in his own mind. Duckecho 20:20, 17 May 2005 (UTC)