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thanks again

appreciate ur help again on j-lo. i could cite a million more sources, but didn't want it taking up thw whole story. actually j lo can thank her body for her breakthru role: selena. selena's family wanted jennifer for the role not just because of her dancing and acting, but she had the same body type as selena. they wanted it close to reality as possible - and they couldn't believe they found someone with jlo's talent that had the same shape as their daughter. of course this is the role that jen a star

I'm not sure what you mean. I opposed it and still think it is a bad idea.--Chaser - T 22:13, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

thank you

thank you for all your help with my tonino article and j-lo edits. i have learned much during this; i too value wiki and want it 2 be the best it can be, so everyone can benefit from it.Jerryskid 15:01, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome. Do you need any other help with anything?--Chaser - T 15:02, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

thanks much; i couldn't figure the tag deal on the tonino story, but otherwise evrything ok hereJerryskid 15:19, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Did you read this yet? Please try it yourself, first.--Chaser - T 16:13, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

how

how could a picture to an article without one? i realize it can't be copyrighted. technically i don't know howJerryskid 05:43, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Which article?--Chaser - T 05:44, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

tonino baliardoJerryskid 05:56, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I thought so. The only way I'm aware is fair use (details at Misplaced Pages:Non-free content), but I'm not familiar enough with that to give you advice. Follow the instructions carefully if you do decide to use copyrighted work as fair use.--Chaser - T 05:59, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

no how do you add it? get it in the article?Jerryskid 06:04, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Ah. First you have to upload it, then link it into the article. If you upload it, I can help you link it in, though I may be going to bed soon.--Chaser - T 06:06, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

i did 'upload' and saw it - i have no idea where is or how 2 link it..?Jerryskid 06:13, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

OK. I've put it in the article. You also need to choose an appropriate image copyright tag. See Misplaced Pages:Uploading_images#Determine_image_copyright_status and leave a question here if you need help. I'm going to bed.--Chaser - T 06:26, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

thank you i will tomorrow if i can figure it out 74.136.13.7 06:38, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for the unblock. Elefuntboy 03:48, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

No sweat!--Chaser - T 03:48, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Jyotiṣa

I agree, which is why Ive already asked for the article to be semi protected. Please read the other users talk page, and the articles talk page as I did everything by the book. If I didn't, please reply what I did wrong so i won't do it again. Thanks Warrush 17:59, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes, it looks good to me but I doubt the IP Address will leave it alone. It seems he/she doesn't want to abide by the wikipedian standards. Warrush 18:08, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

If I may ask, what wikipedia standards did I not abide by? All I did was add a {{dubious}} tag, where the article was not properly cited. I don't think accusations of vandalism by people, without actually reading the edits is warranted for. 158.144.16.8 00:45, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Both of you were edit warring over tags. The specific guideline is Misplaced Pages:Edit war. In any case, the situation seems to have passed.--Chaser - T 00:56, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes, but the problem is that, new users seem to be routinely accused of vandalism, in spite of constructive edits. Also, I reverted the article only twice, so I don't see how that's "repeatedly" reverted. I still think loads of that article needs better sources and can be improved. Am I allowed to edit it, or will I be reverted and be accused of vandalism again?158.144.16.29 01:03, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes, you are both allowed to constructively edit the article. You are not allowed to edit war over the article. More on the article's talk page.--Chaser - T 01:39, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Wireless Bollinger

Could you please explain to me why the wireless bollinger site was deleted? Feel free to respond here or on my talk. regards, Ziophase 19:04, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

The article contained no assertion to notability. In brief, there was nothing there to indicate that the webzine was anything more special than something a couple of friends got together and decided to publish on the web with a few thousand dollars during their spare weekend time. Is there any indication of a high readership? That this zine has a substantial influence on the industry? Something solid that indicates it has significance? Show me that and I'll restore it for a full discussion.--Chaser - T 19:10, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Wireless Bollinger is a registered business trading under the name of UM Media (which was shown on the wiki page). UM Media's ABN is: 39 527 408 647. To verify this, please go to abr . business . gov . au and search for UM Media. It also has paid advertising on its site (as you can see) from the well respected record company Stomp. Howyoudoing 01:44, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Is this to indicate that it is a publicly traded company (owned by shareholders) or that it is publicly registered. If the latter, that's not very meaningful. I'm still not seeing anything that constitutes an assertion to notability. Has this webzine gotten any coverage in mainstream media sources? That would go a long way.--Chaser - T 02:03, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

It is a private partnership, three people who belong to the partnership are silent investors. Several well establised and known record labels are both quoting our reviews as well as sending a large supply of albums. We were the first internet publication to publish Bright Eyes album Cassadaga. Some of our exclusive interviews have given us information which no one else even knew about. For example, Skeletal_Lamping. With many other insight information like this Wireless Bollinger is getting some hits and influencing the indie music community. Why not let other people find out information like this? Howyoudoing 02:41, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages is an encyclopedia that covers topics that are already independently notable, as measured by other coverage. There is no coverage of this music webzine outside of its own website. The popularization of your webzine doesn't begin with a wikipedia article; it ends with that.--Chaser - T 02:48, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

To answer with some reference to more policy, WP:CSD#A7 permits the deletion of articles about websites that don't assert the importance or significance of the subject. A webzine would also be most appropriately covered by WP:WEB, the notability guideline for websites.--Chaser - T 02:50, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

As i stated above we are linked from various well known record labels. E.g. Morning Side and Boy In Static - just to name a few. A well known Radio Host, Zan Rowe also has listed WB on her personal blog. Howyoudoing 03:21, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

User:Boumetrienne

Could you please unblock and reblock indef? This is the sock puppet of blocked User:Jagjagjagjab. Corvus cornix 02:21, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Done.--Chaser - T 02:21, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank you. Corvus cornix 02:25, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

about Millwaukee WI

What I ment to do was only to revert back to the non-estimated population figure in the article. I guess I made a mistake and not realized I made a revert that wasn't even vandalism in the first place. Sometimes finding vandalism is not that easy but at least it's resolved. Momusufan 03:24, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Notice

As discussed in User talk:Digwuren#Blocked, I'm considering to request administrative review of your handling of the matter. I'm posting it here because my block timed off, and thus, you might not be watching my discussion page anymore. Feel free to remove the notice here and continue discussion there if that is not the case. Digwuren 16:58, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Either page is fine.--Chaser - T 17:01, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Actually, yours is preferable, since so much of the dialogue is already there.--Chaser - T 17:07, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Agreeable. Digwuren 17:43, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I am sorry for keeping you waiting for so long. Having seen , I am reasonably convinced of your good faith, even though I still disagree with your actions. Being involved in a time-consuming policy action regarding a much more important case, I have no choice than to just drop this issue. Digwuren 19:00, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Sorry

Thanks for the clarification concerning the editor of The Intelligence Summit, I deleted the warning from his talk page, didn't mean to bite him O_O! Sorry, I'm still kind of new at this, I'll assume good faith next time, and won't jump to conclusions Rackabello 19:21, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Don't worry about the mistake. Mistakes are a good way to learn, and I appreciate your patrolling efforts.--Chaser - T 19:44, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Peres on ITN

Is Shimon Peres really appropriate for ITN? Someone mentioned on Misplaced Pages:Main Page/Errors that it was a symbolic position, which prompted me to suggest removal. Discussion there.--Chaser - T 20:19, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I believe it is. I am (and was at the time of the addition) aware of the greater importance of the Israeli Prime Minister over the Israeli President. Nevertheless, the President still serves as the country's head of state and he does have a few important powers and roles. -- tariqabjotu 20:31, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Football

Thanks for the indefinite semi-protection. I'm sure every football editor is grateful.GordyB 22:04, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome.--Chaser - T 22:05, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Continued harassment by blocked user

You blocked User:Digwuren for 48 hours for edit warring. After his block was expired, his first edit was this attack and harassment on my talk page. He is blaming me for the administrative action that blocked him. I find this accusation utmostly uncivil, and in direct contempt at Misplaced Pages and its administrators. Can you look into this issue, or at least inform me if you are on-line.

This is not an isolated issue, but one tiny episode in a long line of diruptive editing and uncivil behavior. (Well, Digwuren has not been registered for wery long, but he seems to be a WP:SPA whose contibutons are limited to WP:TE, WP:DE, WP:3RR and other forms of edit warring.) Several editors have been collecting evidence on Digwuren, but so far have not taken up the issue, as most people are saving the evidence for the upcoming ArbCom. His latest outburst however demands immediate action. -- Petri Krohn 23:25, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm not getting involved in this other than to indicate that your comment on the 3rr noticeboard had nothing to do with my block.--Chaser - T 23:32, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Would it be inappropriate to take this up at WP:AN/I? -- Petri Krohn 23:43, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

The recent message on your talk page is too minor for anyone on ANI to bother with.--Chaser - T 00:16, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Chaser, I'm surprized that you stooped to spending so much time on Digwuren's talk page. The matter is rather trivial. Since I have been awarded an anti-troll medal and have a very sharp eye for them, I daresay that we are approaching a community ban, although I predict much screaming on the part of Digwuren's meatpuppets once it comes to that. --Ghirla 11:41, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Auroranorth

Thanks for the message. Hesperian 05:11, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Arthana and Coldmachine

Based on my experience with this whole thing, I'd say Arthana is definitely a sock of Emnx. Coldmachine is less certain, the previous sock SKRINE2 may have cut and pasted his words to confuse the issue. But the fact that these two users were working together on retaliatory RfC and sockpuppet report against IPSOS makes it more likely that they are indeed the same user. Tough one, though. GlassFET 16:49, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Unblock

Thanks for your effort. Sorry for replying so late but I was offline the whole day. Apparently it works now. Don't know what happened. Str1977 20:26, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

No sweat.--Chaser - T 20:28, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Macedonia

Actually I don't see this as a real edit war - there's this user Brest who as he says "likes to annoy people". He has been coming back from time to time and moving the Blagoevgrad province article to Pirin Macedonia (an irredentist name used for the same province in Republic of Macedonia alone). That's why he links Pirin Macedonia and I unlinked it. There was a dispute about this some time ago and he was doing edits against a majority of 5-6 other editors. This user is the closest thing to a vandal, look at his userpage for example. He is into another issue concerning Albanian language in articles about cities in Republic in Macedonia, in which I'm not involved, but as far as I see his only purpose is not to contribute with something, but to annoy people --Laveol 08:24, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Sexist Mother Jokes

The dozens and Mother insult have obvious and documented sexist bias. I am not calling for their deletion. WP:NPOV , however, says we must represent all views and requires balance. Thus these articles may remain but a point of balance is required to bring attention to their sexist point of view. Rlsheehan. June 15, 2007

Mediation

I saw this and having looked at this and this I have decided that I would like to mediate some kind of settlement, so if you can post a reply to say that you would be willing for me to help and I will get back to you. I will be posting this message at all three users names on the MedCab. Darrenhusted 02:28, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Yes, I'm willing to pursue mediation.--Chaser - T 03:06, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

I have posted at the Mediation page . Darrenhusted 13:43, 18 June 2007 (UTC) It wasn't a problem, Dgies is happy, I'm just waiting for RIsheehan to get back to me. Darrenhusted 16:13, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for that =)

Hi Chaser

Thanks for the unblock - fixing up the issue with the username now. SM&Co. 07:10, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Shared Ips

Hey its me again, if you come across an ip that is shared, and you do the reverese dns and find, say its a college. What is the script to put on their talk page that will tell other users where the ip is from and what school it belongs to. Thanks- Warrush 14:13, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

{{SharedIPEDU}} Follow the link for usage notes.--Chaser - T 01:53, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Mandrake of Oxford

Please stop and ask yourself if I was a sock puppet what was my motivation in asking for a totally independent AFD where ALL potential disputes/interests would be removed beyond the reach of ANY of the 'interested' parties. I felt it was in the best interest of Misplaced Pages that the process should be halted and dealt with elsewhere. What could I possibly hope to gain from that? apart from trying to protect the integrity of Misplaced Pages.

I was accused of being a sockpuppet of Emnx - I am not. Coldmachine was accused of the same. I am not Emnx and I am not Coldmachine.

My crime was to vote for delete and then subsequently ask for the AFD to be suspended and dealt with independently (check the record see bottoem of the page on Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Mandrake of Oxford (2nd nomination)). For that and a typing mistake in an edit summary I got banned.

In my haste I typed in error I am not Emnx I am Coldmachine which should have been I am not Emnx I am not Coldmachine.

How that typo happened - I added a speedy delete to the RFC/IPSOS because Coldmachine had already blanked the page and I had supported the request. Coldmachine had also put a statement on his user page to the effect he had finished with the whole affair. So, as signatory to the RFC in support of Coldmachine I thought it would be reasonable to put the speedy delete tag on the page . . . it was immediately removed as I was trying to add a note to explain what I was doing. There was then an edit clash and my note was lost. In the end I tried to add a m change with an note in the edit summary and in my haste I made the typing error.

If you look on Coldmachine's talk page you will see 'we' discussed (before we were banned) which ISPs we use. We are both in the UK, Coldmachine uses 'Orange'. I use BT. Now, the thing is Orange rents server space from BT (the largest ISP in the UK) so IP addresses of Orange users appear as BT IPs. That is a combined customer base of four to five million customers all accessing the same IP ranges. Furthermore, if you check our edit records you will find that we were editing completely different articles at the same times - so how do you figure we are the same with two ISPs, two accounts, editing different articles at the same time. There was no real evidence against us just circumstantial and a typo . . . the real question you must look at is our motivation. What did we stand to gain from trying to protect the integrity of Misplaced Pages against a disruptive, edit-warring, aggressive editor (IPSOS) who was working with a meatpuppet (GlassFET) to impose views motivated by a blatant COI.

If you want a clean decision on a new AFD then you must prohibit IPSOS and GlassFET (the alleged meatpuppets with a COI) from particiating too! If you allow them to contribute to a new AFD you bias the result.

IPSOS is continuing with his COI and promoting Mandrake of Oxford i.e. he proposed the review! Remember, IPSOS moved Mandrake of Oxford material into the Mandrake Press article during the AFD to circumvent the process.

During the whole dispute it has been the intent of IPSOS and GlassFET to remove the revival Mandrake Press from Mandrake Press which they have just done despite several failed attempts to split the article so they could attack the revival company on a stand alone basis whilst at the same time promoting a rival company Mandrake of Oxford.

During the 2nd Mandrake of Oxford AFD IPSOS and GlassFET were accused of acting as meatpuppets and also that both had a COI. See http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Hermetic_Order_of_the_Golden_Dawn for where they start working together and being disruptive. They both have a declared interest in Golden Dawn and IPSOS has an interest Sexual / Magic, and Tantra. Mandrake of Oxford runs the Oxford Golden Dawn Occult Society (http://www.compulink.co.uk/~mandrake/ogdos.htm) and publishes books on Sexual Magic. The very name IPSOS is connected to this subject (he created an article about his own name) - Kenneth Grant runs the Typhonian OTO which is a magical order which teaches sex magic.

To give you an insight into the character of IPSOS. Until very recently, despite numerous complaints from editors and Admins, this was on the IPSOS user page :-

Problem with Misplaced Pages

The main problem with Misplaced Pages is that complete fools cribbing from books consider themselves the equals of people who have studied a field and are intimately acquainted with it. Like people who don't even know how Maugham or Goethe or Jung are pronounced but edit their articles just the same, or who don't know how the word draught is pronounced but are editing beer. Can you believe I was asked for citations to prove that a well-known anthropologist with a double-barrelled name actually shouldn't be cited using only the second half of his last name when a simple phone call to any anthropology department or a simple search of the Library of Congress catalog would have cured one of one's ignorance? When those who don't really know insist they are right rather than admit that they don't really know, I suggest that they simply leave Misplaced Pages. Why invest your ego in proving yourself right about something which you don't know anything about?!!! Damn silly. IPSOS!

Arthana

Danke

Yeah, that probably shouldn't have gone right on the main page; thanks for moving it. I'm just getting really frustrated at Miranda's asinine questions and complaints.

Thanks for helping me not make an ass out of myself. ;) EVula // talk // ☯ // 05:28, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Sure, but read my comment on the RFA's talk page before you thank me twice.--Chaser - T 05:30, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Hey now, pointing out where I'm wrong is an equally valid reason to thank you. ;) EVula // talk // ☯ // 05:33, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Okay, thanks:) Have a nice week and God bless:)--†Sir James Paul† 07:04, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

†Sir James Paul† has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing!
Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message.

Thanks

Thanks for your edit to 172's talk page. I'm not sure if it's vandalism or not and I appreciate the more informed follow-up. WLU 18:36, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Sure.--Chaser - T 18:37, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Dispute at Dragon Ball Z

I noticed TheManWhoLaughs adding comments in the talk page of User:TJ Spyke that appeared to be only for the purpose of antagonizing the user for a previous dispute. Then he began adding unsourced info in the article on Dragon Ball Z. This user has previously had problems with discussing the removal and replacement of cited info with uncited info, most recently in WrestleMania 22. Usually after a dispute has begun the user engages in an edit war and adds personal attacks to the talk pages of the opposing parties. Just my two cents here.-- bulletproof 19:15, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

OK. Thanks. I'll look into the wrestlemania issue, but perhaps in the meantime you can join us at Talk:Dragon Ball Z.--Chaser - T 19:19, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

May I suggest moving this discussion to the WP:DBZ talk page so that members of the Wikiproject can also take part in the discussion?-- bulletproof 19:22, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

I left a note at that talk page directing them to the article talk page.--Chaser - T 19:25, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

Image Question

Hi Chaser, thanks again for unblocking me. I have a quick question about images. I took a picture, but that picture has the logo of another business in it. It is a fairly conspicuous part of the picture. Is it acceptable to upload this image to Misplaced Pages? Seeing as I have been blocked for this in the past, I thought it would be good measure to check.
Thanks,
Bfissa 14:31, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

hello

just figured id let you know that user Tenebrae is trying to use your name to get me banned.TheManWhoLaughs 00:23, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

This whole thing started because he kept reverting my Batman and Robin plot when there was nothing wrong with it. He then reported me to 2 different places trying to get me blocked. He then talked to me like a was being uncivil. All i wanted was a Batman and Robin plot. And i did archive most of it.TheManWhoLaughs 00:57, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

very much so. He just wont shut his mouth about me calling me childish and saying im doing something wrong.TheManWhoLaughs 03:49, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Posting

Done as asked. --Tenebrae 03:43, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

This time I accept

Couldn't wait for me to ask you, hmmm? :-) I'll be filling out the questionnaire soon. Hope this goes well. Daniel Case 04:26, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Thank You

Thank you for protecting my user page from a persistent vandal. Willie Peter 04:58, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Sigh. If this isn't some more "trying to game the system," by sucking up to an admin, I don't know what is. Chaser, you've no doubt seen the facts ad nauseam on the 3RR page. I'm convinced this less-than-one-day-old user who has appeared only to save Crockspot and Bellowed from 3RR violations is a meatpuppet, and I've got the diffs to back it up. Can you direct me toward the best way to have this investigated? Many thanks. Eleemosynary 05:03, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

This guy loves me, for reason only known to him, any rate, please tell this guy to spot harassing me and slandering me and other people with his deluded agenda.Willie Peter 05:07, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Tiny piece of information

Just as a trivial piece of information: WP:CIVIL#Examples mentions profanity in general, but not "Bullsh*t" in particular. I mention this in case the word has been removed from the page since you last read it. (I can't be the only one to find it irritating when policy pages keep changing like that.)

Anyway, as I've said on my talk page, I now consider the matter of the block closed. Thank your for your detailed response to my unblock request. Cheers, CWC 06:20, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Comment on William's page

I left the following comment for you on William M. Connolley's user talk page, let's see if he deletes this one too. He has deleted several of mine off his page.

::Ahem... He blocked me while he and I were in a dispute. He also likes to delete peoples comments and warnings off his user talk page.

--Britcom 11:39, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

I don't think your comments are helpful. It strikes me as "rubbing salt in his wounds." My opinion.--Chaser - T 14:44, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Please correct the record

On the Willie Peter sockpuppet report, you include me in an "edit war over the last few days". I think you should recheck the George Soros edit history. I haven't edited that article in several days. - Crockspot 12:17, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

• Just checked, June 16 was my last edit, and I don't think my previous edits constitute "warring". I stopped editing the article completely when I was directly warned. - Crockspot 12:29, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Done.--Chaser - T 14:39, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

guess

so but if he says anything to me from now on in a direspectful manner hes gonna get it.TheManWhoLaughs 14:44, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Our standards apply universally to every editor.--Chaser - T 16:30, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

thanks

for getting me unbanned. ill try to stay clean.TheManWhoLaughs 17:46, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Please do that. BTW, it was a block, not a ban. See Misplaced Pages:Banning policy.--Chaser - T 17:48, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Im trying to add in something a have a source for. they wont quit so im gonna have to report them.TheManWhoLaughs 18:05, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Blocked

I blocked User talk:TheManWhoLaughs for a week for the abusive use of a sockpuppet with User:Goblin420. The articles edited were too common plus the 420 in the name's link to his myspace link. I am 99% sure that is what kicked off his autoblock. If you have an issue with this block, please let me know. Thanks! -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 19:34, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

He is requesting an unblock. I have very little doubt that User:Goblin420 is the TMWL's sock. He edited only pages TMWL edited and had issues with. -- Chrislk02 (Chris Kreider) 19:38, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Cydonia Mensae

Please stop with the inappropriate warnings. Thanks. --Ronz 21:23, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Please stop with the inappropriate warnings. Treating everyone equally when they've done nothing wrong is inappropriate. Stop. --Ronz 21:28, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. My apologies in coming across so strongly to you efforts at helping. --Ronz 21:59, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

3RR Incidentsheader transclusion

Hi -- Regarding this edit: Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/IncidentsHeader can't be used for the 3RR noticeboard. Thanks -- AvB ÷ talk 23:32, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Fixed. Thanks for catching that.--Chaser - T 23:36, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

Movement to impeach George W. Bush

Now this is one that needs some mediation. I gave it a try a while back, but found it pretty much futile. While I'd still like to help, I wasn't even able to get editors to consider what they're doing in the light of WP:NPOV and WP:OR. I'll look for opportunities to step in and assist though. --Ronz 23:43, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

I'm equally not hopeful.--Chaser - T 23:44, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

TheManWhoLaughs

I was just following WP:SOCK procedures. Why is it unhelpful if it puts him in the sockpuppet category? Lord Sesshomaru

Because it was likely a one-time thing and the tag is more likely to cause trouble by setting him off than helping with identification.--Chaser - T 00:34, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, was at least this cat. ok? What I can do also is categorize him in Category:Misplaced Pages sockpuppeteers without resorting to the "annoying" tag. Your thoughts? Lord Sesshomaru

What's the purpose of placing the tag or putting the editor in the category?--Chaser - T 05:54, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, it was just a thought. Maybe it could help keep an extra eye out on the user by those whom casually browse sock-related categories. Ideas? Lord Sesshomaru

That's the thing. I think these tags are just so that editors can quickly assess if a blocked editor was using socks abusively and then block when new socks turn up (and a dozen more reasons). There just doesn't seem to be a good reason to place the tag on his userpage because the sock was so obvious the first time and he's blocked for two days rather than banned.--Chaser - T 06:03, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

No, no, I meant just categorize without resorting to the tag. It's easy, Category:Misplaced Pages sockpuppeteers; he might not even notice it and if he does, he wouldn't be inflamed by it. Its just a category. Lord Sesshomaru

Sorry. Sloppy wording. I understood. I feel the same way regarding the cat. I have his talk page watchlisted and should be able to handle problems in the near future.--Chaser - T 06:08, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Good luck. Lord Sesshomaru

Willy Peter

I moved your notice on Misplaced Pages:Suspected sock puppets/Willie Peter down after "conclusions", I hope that is proper, unless that is considered more evidence. I also linked in the diff to your message. Thanks again. - Crockspot 01:24, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I stuck it in evidence because I'm still suspicious about the account, but I don't have anything else to go on, so that report may as well be closed.--Chaser - T 01:26, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, you have the user name that I was told. We'll just have to see what kind of editing pattern develops. - Crockspot 01:51, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Well in the mean time, as you ponder Mr. Goethean's musingsthat every one from Illinois is a sock, how about you kindly remove, this slander and personal attack off Eleemosynary user's page. Thanks.Willie Peter 05:38, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

I've asked him to remove it. Please be patient.--Chaser - T 06:00, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

OK I will Willie Peter 06:16, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

I am still waiting, when will you enforce WP:HARASS , WP:NPA and WP:CIVIL ? I have been cleared, as well as others. Why don't you remove this personal attack, I want this to end too. ]Willie Peter 14:33, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

You dug your own hole . Now you get to sit in it. I have no sympathy.--Chaser - T 20:26, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

You forgot to remove the lie and personal attack from Eleemosynary user's page, who is an experienced and contentious editor and put all the blame on me, NICE it is like Orwell saids...some are more equal then others.? Willie Peter 21:03, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

TDC, parole status and 'good behavior'

Hi Chaser. We've not yet met, but I'd like to recommend that you take a look at this April 5, 2007 3RR report for consideration of TDC's compliance with the 'good behavior' terms of his parole status, should it be necessary. . As I say on that report, TDC should not look at the lifting of parole (when and if that happens) as mere license to return to 3RR. In short, a user's behavior can't be described as 'good' if it's fundamentally unchanged from that which got him the 1RR ban in the first place. Thank you. -- User:RyanFreisling @ 03:52, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

In the end it was this that did it, but thanks for bring that to my attention, as well. Cheers.--Chaser - T 21:12, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

Chaser - thanks for the response. Jayjg's final comment on that thread is helpful, insofar as users who re-offend with the same behavior that earned a prior ArbCom ban can have their behavior addressed more readily by ArbCom directly, without necessitating a whole RfAr 're-do'. I'm hopeful I won't have to deal with it at all, with the user in question choosing constructive resolution over revert warring and tendentious editing. We'll see. Thanks again for your response and your involvement. -- User:RyanFreisling @ 22:14, 22 June 2007 (UTC)