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Talk page intro

Aaah! A clean slate - the sequel! Old archives are here (inception to 12.20.05) and here (12.20.05 to 2.2.06). Wipe your feet, make yourself at home, but don't take the Morning Musume CD's off of the stereo or I'll go GG Allin on your ass. ;) --CJ Marsicano 02:13, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

Image:TLCinterview72605.ogg listed for deletion

Matt 18:25, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

IfD is the place where members of the community discuss whether a particular media file should be kept or deleted. I encourage you to explain there why you think that this file is fair use, but unlisting the file without letting everyone have their say is not a way of achieving concensus. It's important for the notice to remain on the file so that other people know that the file is listed for deletion and can have their say as well. Also, striking out someone elses comments is frowned upon here. Thank you for your cooperation. Matt 02:50, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Quick Draw McGraw

Your additions regarding the wrestling move El Kabong on the Quick Draw McGraw page should probably be moved to Professional wrestling attacks#El Kabong. The paragraph about the wrestling move is longer on the page about the cartoon character then on the wrestling moves page! Qutezuce 02:05, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Copying from wiki.theppn.org

The licenses between wiki.theppn.org and Misplaced Pages are incompatible. You can't copy from one and paste it into the other. In the future please reword and cite it as a source. --Sanchny 17:00, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

Seeking opinion

Hey dude, did a bit of work on the Osaka Koi no Uta single page, and I think I've finally come up with the standard (tracklisting, charts, members ect.) for Momusu/H!P singles to use. I did the mentioned single as an example, and if you think it is ok or have any other suggestions on what to include, I'm gonna start doing the rest of the singles and use the same example from now on for H!P related stuffs. For the charts, I don't think we need to be as extreme as wiki.theppn with the charts, just the peak position will do. Let me know what you think. --Sploggers 06:19, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for signing my manifesto. Direct and comments, questions or concerns to my talk page or the manifesto's talk page. Thanks again. The Ungovernable Force 08:22, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

Userboxes

Improv has just done a mass deletion of userboxes. ArbCom much? --Shell <e> 05:35, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

I gave him 12 hours to restore the userboxes. --Shell <e> 05:42, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

User:Cjmarsicano/UDUIW

Please see my comment on the talk of the CSD page for my explanation. I think CSD T1 is being interpreted far too loosely, but in cases like this, I feel it is absolutely justified. Johnleemk | Talk 17:49, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

What punishment? I haven't stopped beating my wife yet, if that's what you mean. I'm not out to punish anyone. I'm out to avoid m:factionalism, which harms both the community and the encyclopedia. Nothing done on Misplaced Pages is supposed to punish; it's supposed to aid the construction of an encyclopedia. Johnleemk | Talk 18:04, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

It's not the anti-Jimboism. I don't care whether you like, hate, trust or distrust Jimbo. It's the existence of a UDUIW userbox that is factionalism, because it serves to identify members of a particular faction in a uniform (and thus easily abused for factionalist purposes) manner. I would speedy any ADW or AIW or AMW or whatever factionalist userbox I see on sight. Johnleemk | Talk 18:18, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Raid

It appears as though all UDUIW activities are being "raided." That is, our logo was suggested for deletion as was our category. Do you have google talk or aim? I need to strategize. Also, the arbcom case was refused by 3 arbitrators. --Shell <e> 23:28, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I don't have either of those. Damn. Cjmarsicano 01:09, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

I actually saw your aim sn and gmail address on your livejournal. --Shell <e> 01:51, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Userboxen

I have responded at Misplaced Pages talk:Userboxes, please continue all discussions there. --Cyde Weys 04:23, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Leaving

I am leaving wikipedia (at least temporarily) because of this userbox dispute. I urge many people to do the same as I state in my userpage. --Shell <e> 06:01, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Image:Mazich01.jpg

I have removed your delete tag from the image and posted the following notice clarifying my position on Misplaced Pages's use of the image:

Notice from the photographer/copyright owner, 02:04, 23 February 2006 (UTC): I am the photographer and copyright owner of this photographic work, and I myself have uploaded the photograph to Misplaced Pages for the item in question. Obviously I am more than willing to allow the photograph to be used for any non-profit purpose by Misplaced Pages. I only ask for the following.

• Proper copyright credit given. I already took care of that when I uploaded the photo.
• A simple notification if this image is used for any other purpose (i.e., other than on this site) by Misplaced Pages, or by anyone else. If Misplaced Pages does their infamous DVD-ROM set or whatever, all they have to do is e-mail me at minimoniotaku@gmail.com -- there is a 99.99% possibility I will say yes anyway.

End of story. If anyone has any questions, they can e-mail me. My e-mail address obviously isn't hard to find. --CJ Marsicano 02:04, 23 February 2006 (UTC) (This message duplicated on the item's talk page and on the talk page of the person that tagged it for deletion.)

That's not good enough. Misplaced Pages requires user-created images to be uploaded under a free license such as the GFDL or a Creative Commons license, which basically means allowing three additional things in addition to the permissions you are granting:

1. The ability for entities other than Misplaced Pages to use the images.
2. The ability to use the images commercially. This permits Misplaced Pages to do things like sell CD-ROM versions of the encyclopedia to offset server costs, and it permits re-users like Answers.com to exist.
3. The ability to create derivative works.

See Misplaced Pages:Image use policy for more information on this. --Carnildo 02:20, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

A not nice edit summary

It was quite rude of you to characterize my edit as vandalism. Be warned: The THOUGHT POLICE are watching you. :) In all seriousness, could you please consider making your user page look a bit more professional? Every time you edit an article you attach a link to your userpage to its history... What is a reader to think if they checkout the editors of an article only to find someone with a userpage laden with POV and bias? --Gmaxwell 06:31, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

replied--Gmaxwell 07:21, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Sakura & Otome gumi: Singles or EPs?

(as discussed here)
To quote the article on singles:
"In music, a single is a short record, usually featuring one or two tracks as A-side, often accompanied by several B-sides, usually remixes or other songs."
and the article on EPs: "An extended play or EP, is the name given to vinyl records or CDs which are too long to be called singles but too short to qualify as albums. Typically an album has eight or more tracks (anywhere between 30-60 minutes), a single has one to three (5-15 minutes), and an EP four to eight (or around 15-30 minutes)."
Also, in Japan EPs often haven titles of their own. — Chsf 18:50, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

Orphaned fair use image (Image:TLCinterview72605.ogg)

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Image copyright problem with Image:Dos02a.jpg

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Image copyright problem with Image:Dos 1996.jpg

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I'm back

I'm back =D. The religion userboxes were restored and I am HAPPY. Made a bunch of edits today too --Shell <e> 01:28, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Minutemen page

I noticed that there seems to be an incomplete edit on the Minutemen page -- there is an incomplete phrase in the "Covers and Tributes" section, third paragraph -- "specifically the". I'm assuming you're still working on editing, but if I don't notice a change by the end of the day, I'll probably go ahead and delete the phrase.--Larrybob 21:11, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey

Possibly unfree Image:Wattforwikipedia.jpg

Please consider releasing this image under a free license or it will most likely have to be deleted. -SCEhardT 03:38, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

Image Tagging Image:2nd W.jpg

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Re: 2nd W album cover.

Hello! I was wondering if you could find the URL from where you picked the image. I tagged it as lacking a source, not a license. That is, if you have downloaded it from another site, it is necessary to add the source (I suggest two links, one to the page holding the image, and a direct link to the image) to acknowledge the fourth guideline of Fair Use (The material must have previously been published.). If you can't, it should be necessary to find another image that can be sourced instead. -- ReyBrujo 01:55, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

May userbox policy poll

Hi. You're a supporter of userboxes, and there's currently a policy poll going on about userboxes that might solve the speedy deletion issue. I encourage you to vote if you haven't already. Thank you. Dtm142 21:18, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

Hello Project

I'm well aware that there were wholesale changes to category:Singles, because I initiated them. My changes today were for two reasons: One, that category:Japanese singles is going away, and I wanted all songs categorized by artist when they moved into category:Japanese songs. Now they are, rather than cluttering up category:Japanese singles. The second is that many of the articles have the shouting all-caps form, which is expressly against Misplaced Pages style; see the discussion at Talk:J-pop#use of all-caps. By all means, if you have reasons to move articles from one category to another, do so. But please be aware that category:Japanese singles shouldn't be filled with songs that will be in subcategories of category:Japanese songs. Please consider this as you approach whether to revert any of my edits.--Mike Selinker 00:47, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

You are putting songs back in album categories. Why?--Mike Selinker 01:07, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

I've put a notice onto Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Songs#J-pop songs about the capitalization of J-pop singles. Please register an opinion there so that this can be evaluated. Thanks!--Mike Selinker 15:27, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Jandek album covers

Hey, thanks for putting the album covers back up. I had a talk with Taw about it, and he wrote:

First thing, it's now easy to undelete deleted images. I haven't done any mass deletions before we got this feature. So if any image is actually contributing significantly to the articles, it can be undeleted by any admin in just a few clicks.

Second, Misplaced Pages fair use policy which has been a compromise between pro-fair-use and everything-has-to-be-free factions puts very high standards of when fair use images are appropriate:

The material must contribute significantly to the article (e.g. identify the subject of an article, or specifically illustrate relevant points or sections within the text) and must not serve a purely decorative purpose.

Because in the past fair use CD/DVD covers have been uploaded just for decoration, in spite of Misplaced Pages policies, I'm all for deleting all of them en masse right now, and selectively undeleting only those that actually significantly contribute to articles. One cover actually contains a photo of Jandek (as used in article Jandek), and I have nothing against using that one. But most of them seem to be simply a decoration

Now I find your claim that Jandek's album covers are somehow significant rather dubious, as there isn't a single word about significance of the covers in Jandek article. If the covers are actually significant, something would be written about that in the article.

Enjoy :-) Taw 13:56, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

Just so you know. Thanks. --Leo44 (talk) 11:58, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

Tsuji the record holder.

I've made a minor adjustment - removed "Both" from the start of the sentence 'Kago and Tsuji are also known as "Two Top"'.

My main query is about the Hula Hoop paragraph. I'm pretty sure that the Bakajo test achievement has been stuck in the middle of the Hula Hoop talk making it appear, due to the sentence that follows it, that Tsuji and Kago regained the record of being Bakajo. I've moved that Bakajo bit to the end of the paragraph, after the Futsal information as it's a humourous, slightly perjorative note that adds a bit of levity to her achievements.

Hope that's all groovy.

Free beer

I've been long for a long time and didn't want to return either, but some people are nice - like you. Anyway, I've won a huge fight, because it was the thing which needed to be done. So I hope you'll enjoy your free beer and not just any beer: Have of bottle of Chimay Bleue Grande Réserve Millésime 1999 Vintage Magnum :D KittenKlub 13:59, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

Monty Python TfD compromise

There is a compromise now posted on the TfD if you are still interested in this debate. One question, even though you are against this TfD, have you even taken the master template out for a test drive?
&#151;Lady Aleena talk/contribs 08:53, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

Current mac project collaboration

The current WP:MAC collaboration is Apple II family. Please devote some time to improve this article to featured status. — Wackymacs 13:49, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Sorry about that, my mistake. Wi-king 04:34, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Infobox album modification

Hi! I noticed you added some greatest hits combinations to {{Infobox Album/color}}. I appreciate them, however the idea is to eliminate keys from that template until there is only one available type per every type of album, not to add them. The current discussion can be held either at the talk page of that template, or at the WikiProject Album page. -- ReyBrujo 04:39, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

CfD UDUIW

You should be interested in the discussion at Misplaced Pages:User_categories_for_discussion#Category:Users_in_Defense_of_Userboxes_and_Individuality_on_Wikipedia_.28UDUIW.29. --NThurston 20:46, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

cOULD yOU hELP mE!

Could you possibly help my with my article on Ed Crawford. It is still in the works right now and I'm not sure if there is much else I can do. I figure you could help since you're now Mike Watt's errand boy (You lucky son of a gun). this isn't an order just a suggestion. --Adamv88 22:50, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

Panic at the disco

I have semi-protected the page according to your request on WP:RFPP. I have also left a note to other administrators that un-protection is not recommended. Thatnk you for taking the time to make your request. Best regards, RyanGerbil10(Kick 'em in the dishpan!) 14:33, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

User_talk:Halo2nutter

Hi. I just thought I'd let you know that it's generally not a good idea make ban threats at new users. Halo2nutter only made that one edit, and expecting him to know the vandalism policy is ridiculous. -- Selmo 02:07, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

No problem. Vandalism happans everywhere. Lucky for us, we have the Counter-Vandalisn Unit, who usually revert vandalism in a matter of seconds. -- Selmo 02:50, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: From Infobox Idol to Infobox Musical Artist

Hello there. It was not my intention to fix those infoboxes, nor I have time to do that. I replaced them for two reasons: first, it is better to show a minimun infobox (one or two line, as my "fix" did) than to show a red link, and second, because showing the red link may make any editor go there and delete the template with all the information. I should have added in my edit summary a sentence like "Please someone fix this template", true, for which I apologize. However, as I just stated, I do not have time to do that now, so if you can, it will be appreciated, and if not, someone else will have to do it. -- ReyBrujo 16:26, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

I should be free for around 30 minutes in a couple of hours. That should be enough to fix most of the infoboxes. Also, regarding the photos, they already qualify as fair use replaceable images, and could be tagged anytime with {{replaceable fair use}} or {{fair use replace}} tags, so the fact that they stay orphan is not an immediate issue. I would also suggest you to cool down, your second post was much more welcomed than your first one. Regards. -- ReyBrujo 16:40, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Image:Watt-in-the-studio-040216.jpg

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More replaceable fair use images

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—Chowbok ☠ 16:33, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Image permission

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Replaceable fair use tag

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Thanks for your note

Thanks for your note. I do understand your concerns, but I believe the long-term goal of having a freely-redistributable encyclopedia outweighs the short-term problem of having less images. I do appreciate that your comments are meant in good faith, and a helpful manner, but I could just as easily turn them around and post them to you: "The more fair-use images you upload, the more harm you do to Misplaced Pages by taking us that much farther away from having a 💕. I suggest you step back until you understand this better."

Actually, I only really believe the first sentence in that "quote". When there's a good-faith disagreement about Misplaced Pages policies and goals, I think engagement and discussion is the best course. Asking somebody else to go away until they see it my way is counterproductive, IMO.

Wishing you all the best. —Chowbok ☠ 05:38, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

I'm confused that you keep mentioning attribution issues, because I don't think I've ever said anything about that (have I? Correct me if I'm wrong). I do feel those images are replaceable; I'm sorry this angers you, and that's not my intent. I would be happy to discuss my reasoning with you anytime. —Chowbok ☠ 06:09, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

You're quoted in the Washington Post

This article . Near the bottom of the first page. Vizjim 15:13, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

• I dunno - what if Kim Eternity had seen your name? :0 Vizjim 20:55, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Song articles

Please see Talk:W (Double You). --WikiSlasher 02:41, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

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WikiProject Hello! Project Userbox

I just made a userbox for WP:H!P so if you want to put it on your user page, it's {{User WikiProject Hello! Project}}. If not, you should still add

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to your user page so your name can be added to Category:WikiProject Hello! Project participants.

A funny thing is that I just uploaded the other picture of Aika Mitsui from KAKKO-II and right when I put it on her page, it was in conflict with your edit. I guess you're just a lot faster than me. I'll just have to delete mine now. --Chuckleberry 06:52, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Hello Project photo template

I've been updating Chisato Moritaka's profile here on Wiki and think it'd be great if you could perhaps enlarge the scope of said template so that it could also be used by other artists affiliated with Up-Front Works but not Hello! Project per se. Thanks for your cooperation --Ishikawa Minoru 00:05, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

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List of premature obituaries

Do you have a source for the Harley Race entry you added to this article? I couldn't easily find one from a bit of Google searching, but you will know better than me where the information came from. The article is currently being considered for becoming a Featured List so I am trying to add a reference for every entry; hence your help on this point would be much appreciated. Thanks! Ben Finn 01:20, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your help. Ben Finn 14:26, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

Toberman House

Hey, I noticed this redlink at the bottom of Dos (band) and thought I'd see if I could encourage you to write something about it. Cheers, Pete.Hurd 06:21, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

Created a stub. Rock on, Pete.Hurd 15:33, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

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No content in Category:WWE Records albums

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SST chronology

I can't believe the powers that be are trying to undo all your hard work on the SST catalog chronology. Such bullshit. Adamv88 22:45, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

Unknown Instructors quoting Double Nickels on the Dime

My issue with this statement is the "interpolating" bit. If it's not a direct quote, which you could cite using written copies of the lyrics, then conjecturing the quote would constitute original research. Also, Misplaced Pages pages aren't valid citations. Hope that makes sense; still waking up. Feel free to discuss this more on my talk page. --Gimme danger 15:35, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Right. Cool, I only knew the mathematical definition of interpolate before. But anyway, if you could find a lyric sheet somewhere that would be a citation. After a bit of digging at Misplaced Pages:Reliable sources, it seems like the songs themselves could be cited for this. I can do this, but you seem to be the expert in this case. --Gimme danger 15:55, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Kago_Ai_2006.jpg

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Orphaned non-free image (Image:Kago Ai 2006.jpg)

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Images on articles helmed by WP:H!P

This is really getting annoying, but I have to butt in and put a kibosh or at least a serious slowdown on what you're doing somehow.

Your actions are damaging the integrity of articles that Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Hello! Project have been supervising/editing/writing/trying to improve. I am very dismayed that you are just flat out removing images without making an effort to help actually improve the articles. This is not the first time we had to dispute your "endeavors", especially in the case of the photo in question. This is one of the reasons why, yes, I detaggified your handiwork.

At WP:H!P we fully endeavor to fully attribute and rationalize the images we use for the articles we monitor, edit, and create, and whenever we can we try to make them low resolution enough so that they don't look like shit and thus do justice to both the article and to Misplaced Pages protocol. Hello! Project artists are unfortunately the most unaccessible to the public as far as obtaining "free" images of the personalities involved. There have been no successful efforts to obtain so-called "free" images.

WP:H!P is run and maintained by non-Japanese fans in the United States and other places in the Western world. Hello! Project and their agency, Up-Front Works, have not made any inroads (yet) to bringing their artists to the US to perform, with the sole exception of Hawaii (as far as I know, none of the American residents who are part of WP:H!P where Up-Front Works often flies members of H!P's Japanese fan club to perform in private concerts there, and the same restrictions on cameras coming into the shows in Japan are used at these shows too.

I am not going to tolerate this any further, especially since you acting in bad faith by removing images without contacting some of the contributors who uploaded them (it seems like you've missed a few - bad boy!) and/or locating or offering solid proof that so-called "free" images for the articles in question exist. I have had a look at your user contribution history. I have had a look at your user contribution history and excuse the way I put this, but from my point of view, all it seems like you are contributing is loosely sanctioned vandalism. In other words, you mght have good intentions, but unfortunately they aren't that good at all. It clearly states in all photographs that we have uploaded (or had to defend) in recent instances that no free alternatives are available to us (or anyone else). If you can prove that so-called "free" images exist for the artists in question, do a little Googling for yourself and try to prove it! Believe me, we've looked ourselves and come up with nothing.

if the problem is with the size of the pictures and/or the presence of Up-Front Works' copyright on the photos - photos that Up-Front Works gives away to fans. for Christ's sake - then that could be easily solved by asking the uploader or one of the folks at WP:H!P to take a couple of minutes with Photoshop and rectify the problem without bringing in the copyright nazis and the Misplaced Pages firing squad - or to put it mildly, ASK US NICELY WITHOUT GOING TAG CRAZY. All of us in WP:H!P are devoted fans but we are also human beings with the usual responsibilities.

Again, we at WP:H!P do our damndest to bend over backwards to meet Misplaced Pages standards for pictures, especially with attribution and rationalization. I feel that in part, we who do bend over backwards to stay within boundaries are being punished along with those that don't know what the hell they're doing.

Please try to pull back the reins on removing so-called "non-free" images from articles maintained by WP:H!P - all you are doing is making our efforts harder than they already are and making what is essentially a hobby for us less and less enjoyable, which would then have an even bigger negative impact on Misplaced Pages as a whole. --CJ Marsicano 03:41, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Going directly to the points:

1. Never say an editor is acting in bad faith.
2. Although most of contributors are currently from USA, there are Wikipedians in Japan.
   1. There are also Flickers in Japan.
   2. Specially, there are a huge number of members of general audience with photo-cameras in Japan.
3. When did I didn't warned the uploader when tagging an image for deletion? I believe I haven't fail to do that in months.
4. Never call fellow Wikipedians "copyright nazis" ( ...). This doesn't help your argument.

Please cool down, keep calm, and engage in civil conversation. I'll be happy to explain any doubts or misunderstandings you may have regarding our policies. Best regards, --Abu badali 20:01, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

I wish there was a way to get "free images" for all the H!P members. Without images, some people would not know what the person looks like. People want to know who they look like. I'm sure you all know wiki.theppn, I think that is a great resource too, and it's got pictures. But in this case here, i'd be willing to help out with this problem. Momusufan 01:13, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

The following is what I posted at the talk page of WP:H!P

It is expressly forbidden by the policy of the English Misplaced Pages and the Wikimedia foundation to use non-free (fair use) images solely to illustrate what a living person looks like. Per Misplaced Pages:Non-free content#Examples of unacceptable use, "An image of a living person that merely shows what s/he looks like . The rationale is that this is potentially replaceable with a freshly produced free photograph." There are no if's, and's, or but's to this policy. The statement that was on this WikiProject's page that stated "Free images sadly do not exist for H!P artists so anyone involved with this WikiProject should endeavor to both properly attribute and rationalize these items and defend them from those that are (intentionally or not) destroying much of the hard work we are doing here" is completely false and against all Wikimedia policies. If you can't find a free image of someone, then you cannot have an image of that person on the article at all. This covers all living persons, so we are not just cracking down on your WikiProject.—Řÿūłóñģ (竜龍) 22:28, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Free photos don't seem like a possible solution because the photos taken by the idols of themselves seem to be automatically placed under the copyright of their agency as seen on one of their blogs here. I have one question. Would free artwork, such as drawings of them be allowed? ☆CharlesNguyễn 23:22, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

Drawings of individuals are generally something one should not use. If it's like fanart, then it's still a derivative work of something that is very llikely copyrighted.—Řÿūłóñģ (竜龍) 00:09, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Also, the fair use policies have been in place since 2004, and have been enforced since then. If you cannot find a free picture of a living individual, fair use images of that individual are not to be used just to depict the individual. Fair use law requires critical commentary on the image and not solely the individual in the image.—Řÿūłóñģ (竜龍) 00:14, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

And, Cjmarsicano, you seem to have major ownership issues with WP:H!P. There are no "moderators" of WikiProjects. They are not message boards, nor is Misplaced Pages. Please calm down and try and find free images, or request them from their talent agencies, or request them from the articles' subjects themselves. Fair use images of living people will not work.—Řÿūłóñģ (竜龍) 00:21, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Momusu group photo

I'm not sure if this MM group photo could be used: ---> or this one ---> What do you think? Could they be classified as free images? Momusufan 01:32, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

No, those would be fair use images - which used to be OK in English Misplaced Pages and legal under the US Copyright Law's fair use clause. I don't know what the fuck happened lately but I don't fucking like it. --CJ Marsicano 01:42, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

What suddenly happened was that Misplaced Pages:Fair use criteria was moved to Misplaced Pages:Non-free content criteria to make it more clear that Misplaced Pages uses copyrighted content much more strictly than regular fair use. In October 2006, the {{replaceable fair use}} came into play (October 2006 Signpost article), with an attempt three months later to eliminate all such promo images (January 2007 Signpost article). hbdragon88 04:26, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Well, tell Jimbo Wales and his misguided legal team that they have made what was once a hobby much less enjoyable for all involved, and have lessened, rather than improved, the integrity of Misplaced Pages. One way or another, this lame-ass policy has to be shitcanned. Sooner rather than later would be nice. --CJ Marsicano 15:43, 25 June 2007 (UTC)