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| ''France maintained colonial rule in the territory which has been described as "quasi-apartheid"'' this is stupid and totally false. there was no such things as US buses for black and white in algeria, besides algeria was truly part of france as made of département like today corsica. for example muslim children went in public schools with european french kids, i've seen worst apartheids. this view is a simplification by american editors, reads like all mslim in france are from algeria, but this totally false many comes from morroco and tunisia and black africa as well, all of which are former french colony or protectorates, there is not a single word about this. this article is totaly oriented and a mystification this can be seen in "Criticism"'s POV authors selection. this article doesn't exist in other language, don't ask why. ] 09:40, 16 July 2007 (UTC) | ''France maintained colonial rule in the territory which has been described as "quasi-apartheid"'' this is stupid and totally false. there was no such things as US buses for black and white in algeria, besides algeria was truly part of france as made of département like today corsica. for example muslim children went in public schools with european french kids, i've seen worst apartheids. this view is a simplification by american editors, reads like all mslim in france are from algeria, but this totally false many comes from morroco and tunisia and black africa as well, all of which are former french colony or protectorates, there is not a single word about this. this article is totaly oriented and a mystification this can be seen in "Criticism"'s POV authors selection. this article doesn't exist in other language, don't ask why. ] 09:40, 16 July 2007 (UTC) | ||
| :Paris By Night, you have to understand the background. This is a prank article. The people writing it have no interest in or knowledge about France or even racial discrimination. Weird as it sounds, this article is a ] extension of disputes within the Israel-Palestine sections of Misplaced Pages. As you probably know, there has long been a heated debate among scholars, journalists and public figures involving comparisons between the Israeli occupation and South African apartheid, from ethical and historical perspectives, but also from strategic perspectives (with regards to Israel's demographic concerns, for example, and the international community's search for a just and pragmatic solution). Ardent Israeli nationalist editors object to the very existence of the article ], but haven't found much support for their cause, so they've come up with the novel strategy you're now encountering. They've googled around to see if the word "apartheid" has ever been used, even only rhetorically or in passing, in connection with other societies and government policies. When they find two or more such citations, they create one of these prank articles to house them. If you try to get this article deleted, they'll try to recruit you to join them in their opposition to the Israel article, making clear that the article you care about is a hostage to the one they care about.--] 15:54, 16 July 2007 (UTC) | |||
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Revision as of 15:54, 16 July 2007
Merge proposal
It is extremely bad etiquette to remove a "merge" tag without discussion (in fact it is against the rules, but I don't feel like wikilawyering). Please do not remove the tag until a consensus develops either way.
If you oppose the proposal, you should discuss in the centralized thread in the {{mergeto}} article, in this case Allegations of apartheid. I will restore the tagging, and add a note in the correct thread. Thanks!--Cerejota 00:38, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
- You didn't state a reason for doing so, and the article is 14k long and almost 1900 words. It's far too big to merge. Please stop using tags as a weapon to deface articles you don't like. Jayjg 04:32, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
- Jayjg, it is false that I did not provide a rationale. I did so here in the correct talk page, which is the talk page of the {{mergeto}} page. I ask you please apologize for misrepresenting me.--Cerejota 05:19, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
Quote farm
Apparently to make the article appear more extensive than it actually is, extensive quotes have been added form single sources. This is a self-fulfilling prophecy, and attacks all quality principles of wikipedia. If we cleanup the quote farm, which is unnecesary, we are left with a good section for the parent article. Thanks!--Cerejota 04:28, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
- A dozen good sources, all talking about different aspects of the same thing. Please stop defacing articles you don't like with spurious tags. Thanks. Jayjg 04:33, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
- Jayjg, when did I say I didn't like this article, and why is placing a quote farm a spurious tag? The article doesn't meet quality standards, and that is what this tag is for. I suggest you calm down, man. Thanks!--Cerejota 05:15, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
- Jayjg, why you didn't like my version, which was arguably more encyclopedic and less of a quotefarm, but kept all the sources you provided?--Cerejota 12:18, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
allegation of lies
France maintained colonial rule in the territory which has been described as "quasi-apartheid" this is stupid and totally false. there was no such things as US buses for black and white in algeria, besides algeria was truly part of france as made of département like today corsica. for example muslim children went in public schools with european french kids, i've seen worst apartheids. this view is a simplification by american editors, reads like all mslim in france are from algeria, but this totally false many comes from morroco and tunisia and black africa as well, all of which are former french colony or protectorates, there is not a single word about this. this article is totaly oriented and a mystification this can be seen in "Criticism"'s POV authors selection. this article doesn't exist in other language, don't ask why. Paris By Night 09:40, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
- Paris By Night, you have to understand the background. This is a prank article. The people writing it have no interest in or knowledge about France or even racial discrimination. Weird as it sounds, this article is a WP:POINT extension of disputes within the Israel-Palestine sections of Misplaced Pages. As you probably know, there has long been a heated debate among scholars, journalists and public figures involving comparisons between the Israeli occupation and South African apartheid, from ethical and historical perspectives, but also from strategic perspectives (with regards to Israel's demographic concerns, for example, and the international community's search for a just and pragmatic solution). Ardent Israeli nationalist editors object to the very existence of the article Allegations of Israeli apartheid, but haven't found much support for their cause, so they've come up with the novel strategy you're now encountering. They've googled around to see if the word "apartheid" has ever been used, even only rhetorically or in passing, in connection with other societies and government policies. When they find two or more such citations, they create one of these prank articles to house them. If you try to get this article deleted, they'll try to recruit you to join them in their opposition to the Israel article, making clear that the article you care about is a hostage to the one they care about.--G-Dett 15:54, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
article is undergoing AFD proposal
Can we continue this debate after the AFD result comes in? Thanks, --Urthogie 14:26, 16 July 2007 (UTC)