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Revision as of 22:48, 26 July 2007

I periodically go through and clean out the old comments... This is because they refer to old situations or that the discussions are otherwise no longer current. Those looking for archives are invited to refer to the history.

Note: If you are here to leave personal attacks, false accusations of vandalism, a long tirade about why your cat photo or article about yourself should be left alone as you and only you wanted, nonsensical rationalizations of why vampires, ancient astronauts, werewolves, "creation science" and so on should be treated as completely real and so forth, do not bother, as I'll either just remove them right away or simply point you to the appropriate Misplaced Pages policy which you should have read in the first place.

Otherwise please add new comments below (you can use the handy dandy + tab next to "edit this page" at the top of the screen).

Misplaced Pages:Avoid trivia sections

The ideal, like many, is not unreachable. Lists are poor. So what is your objection here? / edg ☺ ★ 21:08, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

I agree that lists are poor, but the wording as included there includes "ideal" as if it were something we would like to do and not be bothered if we can;t because it's just an ideal. I think we want the same thing, but the wording you are defending makes it less likely to happen, in my opinion. Trying something else if you like. DreamGuy

Reverting given name template

DreamGuy, I was going to revert the removal of the external links to the given name template just for the purposes of adding the debated template to the external links page so that the discussion would be illuminated by the current example. If you know of another way to do this without reverting the removal of the external links, feel free to do that instead. Remember 21:54, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Alright, that's fine. I can always remove it again later after the discussion says those links are inappropriate, though the "Given Name" part up top doesn't work and isn't part of this discussion. DreamGuy 23:57, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

I have replied to your message on the Sudoku talk page

Here. I hope you will not ignore me because of my apparent lack of an account. --59.61.95.18 08:07, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

I've not ignored it, but policy here says you're wrong, so I will go with what that says instead of what you say. DreamGuy 22:15, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Apology from the "IP vandal"

Hey, I'm sorry for all the harrassment and vandalism that's been going on here from a bunch of IPs I use (66.82.9.77, 66.82.9.54, 69.19.14.18, and probably others, all from HughesNet/DirecWay ISP). Apparently, my brother decided it'd be funny to get on my computer and vandalize things. He claimed he was on a vendetta against you, but I really have no clue why. Anyways, I'm really sorry for all of it. I've made sure it won't happen again. --69.19.14.44 08:11, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Hatnotes re: Adobe Photoshop

Please to be reading Misplaced Pages:Hatnotes#Placement. Thank you, come again. Chris Cunningham 20:17, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Your user page shows that you are an adult and apparently speak English, stop talking like a child. And that page is just wrong, lots of pages are wrong like that, probably because the people making pages like that spend their time trying to think up rules and not enough time actually editing articles, seeing how things are actually done, or reading up on layout standards. Thanks for your concern (even though you were a WP:DICK about it, but go away now. DreamGuy 20:34, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

FYI

Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:DreamGuy. --Iamunknown 04:33, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

I already notified him, but he deleted that. Dicklyon 04:38, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Oops! Sorry about that, you two. DreamGuy, feel free to remove. --Iamunknown 05:13, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Actually, no, he hadn't notified me that there was something actually on ANI, he just made more false threats to report me for "vandalism" and etc. So he's lying yet again... AND he was told that posting on this talk page was forbidden for him thanks to his constant harassment and false threats, so he shouldn't be posting here at all. DreamGuy 18:28, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Given name template

I see that you have taken away the external links to the given name template. I am happy to defer to the consensus of the community on this matter (which I had been trying to gather), but as of yet I do not believe we have any consensus (since it is just you and I talking about this matter).

I understand that you think that the onus is on me to gather consensus before adding these links to the template, but I would appreciate it if you could somehow create an example of the previous template before removing it from the discussion page. Otherwise, I feel that no one will understand exactly what we are talking about.

Also, I was wondering whether you knew of any other way to get the community to take a look at this issue and discuss it because we have not received any comments on this matter as of yet. Remember 20:28, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Mermaids in popular culture

Mermaids in popular culture, an article you created, has been nominated for deletion. We appreciate your contributions. However, an editor does not feel that Mermaids in popular culture satisfies Misplaced Pages's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in the nomination space (see also "What Misplaced Pages is not" and the Misplaced Pages deletion policy). Your opinions on the matter are welcome; please participate in the discussion by adding your comments at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/Mermaids in popular culture and please be sure to sign your comments with four tildes (~~~~). You are free to edit the content of Mermaids in popular culture during the discussion but should not remove the articles for deletion template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion discussion. Thank you. Eyrian 21:19, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Comma in Adobe Photoshop

Er, I was wondering why you insist on a comma being after the date in this bit of the article:

The current (10th) iteration of the program was released on April 16, 2007, and is marketed as Photoshop CS3.

Is there some grammatical rule about dates and commas I don't know about? As far as I know, there shouldn't be a comma there because it improperly divides the sentence. There should only be a comma before a conjunction if both clauses can be separated into complete sentences. With a comma there, the second half of the sentence doesn't have a subject, even if it is implied in the first half (there should at least be a pronoun). But you seem insistent on that comma being there, so I thought I'd ask your reasoning, since I'm thoroughly confused. --clpo13_(talk) 22:17, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Commas separate sentences into parts that go together and parts that don't. When you put a comma after the day in the date you have interrupted the flow and meaning of the sentence. When you specify the year, you put a comma after it to go back to what you were previously talking about, otherwise you split the sentence into separate parts for no good reason. When putting a comma between a day and year the year always has commas on both sides.

But if you were confused you could have always looked it up. Seems to me that, you know, with the Internet being as big as it is, there might be some site that has pages that might be, I don't know, articles explaining concepts to people. Like, say, an encyclopedia? Oh yeah, right, like here: Comma (punctuation). Go there, do a search for the word "date" on that page and read it. The first appearance of the word "date" says it's American usage, but didn't specify which part was American, but the second occurrence of the word "date" shows that the American AND British styles both separate the year off with commas on either side. DreamGuy 22:48, 26 July 2007 (UTC)