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Goujon (automobile)

It's very strange communicating with a robot, but here it goes.

Yes, I confirm that I have made an error in creating the page, so much so that I blanketed it immediately after creation. I did not entirely delete the page because I am not an administrator. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joe Gatt (talk • contribs) — Preceding undated comment added 2007-08-13T10:09:17 (UTC)

CSB

Hi, could you have the CSB add new copyvios to the bottom of the list at WP:SCV? That's how Wherebot does it. Thanks lots!! -- But|seriously|folks  18:39, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Ah, just noticed it's transcluded in. I assume that's temporary until it has a bit of a track record. It's easier to work with WP:SCV if the entries are chronological and all written to the same page. But that can wait until the bot is fully tested. -- But|seriously|folks  18:41, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Coren, it did a really great job! Wherebot flags PD articles from .mil as well, so that's no problem. The tagging feature is great, because it gives the author an opportunity to rectify the situation before someone from WP:SCV even gets to it. I'm very impressed so far. Great job!! -- But|seriously|folks  21:04, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Oh ok you scared me for a sec ;). I was not around during the tests, I'm impressed by the tagging feature! Keep up the good work, I'm gonna strike that part of my comment. -- lucasbfr 23:23, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Excellent! Well done. -- But|seriously|folks  01:22, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

The hard way

Yes, I just do it manually... not clever enough to do anything else! But I think your bot is doing great. I was a bit confused about what to do when the Corenbot has tagged something, so I'm glad you have been in touch. It didn't seem to put them into the CSD category and so I just decided put my own tag on too to do the deed. Maybe it is not necessary though??? --Slp1 02:14, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Merci, Coren. Je vois que tu es Québécois! Moi aussi!--Slp1 02:24, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Xena, Saskatchewan

Just added the under construction template to the article. Using a substitution template. All will be well shortly. Thank you for the note. SriMesh | talk 03:22, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

List of Country performers by era

Interesting that your bot "perfomed a web search with the contents of List of Country performers by era, and it appears to be a substantial copy of http://www.bandforum.info/links.php." That web page is actually a rip off of the Country music page on Misplaced Pages!! Tiles 04:19, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Sometimes happen with circular copies; wikipedia and its (known) mirrors are excluded, but sometimes it misses some. — Coren  04:20, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Just as a side note, circular copies can help finding cut and paste moves, so perhaps you'd want not tagging the article but listing them with a comment when you find one. -- lucasbfr 13:09, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Here I Come Again

Whenever you get the chance, could you please change the title back the way it was? Thanks.

Deletion

Could you explain why you need this page deleted? (e.g. A history merge, etc) —« ANIMUM » 19:15, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Y Done —« ANIMUM » 19:20, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Kato Asea

Remove the tag, the article is not a duplicate form of Kato Asea, with its population and other info makes it a separate article from Marmaria, Arcadia, thank you. Pumpie 23:55, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Black Knight 2000

I know that this is a cut-and-paste from a PinWiki page (that I created a while back using my pen name), but because I'm short on time, I'm going to rewrite the article later. Duo02 *dilly-dally shilly-shally** 00:02, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Successful bot test

Nice bot.

I know you can't see the undelete, but it's spot on. Keegan 03:49, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Making a bot is terrible

Making a bot is terrible, in my view, as it has the potential to be misused. I think that it should done away with. - (Numismaticman 08:07, 8 August 2007 (UTC))

A bot is just tool. If some deletionist is chasing up the bot's actions and speedily and thoughlessly deleting articles, this is terrible. Could the bot finding copyright violations just inform the founding editor of the article, suggesting

• use various sources.
• acknowledge quotations (Use Blockquote).
• paraphrase rather than copy, using "encyclopaedic tone of voice".
• anything else that reduces the risk of accusations of plagiarism or legal claims.

if no improvement after, say 48 hours, then place a warning tag. It would be terrible if WP gained a reputation for loosing copyright legal challenges!

===Vernon White - T A L K . . . to me. 12:28, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Citizendium is actually very similar to Misplaced Pages in many respects. In fact, it was originally a fork from here, as it has been importing articles from here, & then changing them, including updating information as well. - (Numismaticman 23:46, 8 August 2007 (UTC))

Prime Prime Numbers artical

With many many respects sirs, you are not a mathematician with a Phd in Modern Numerology from Oxford(London, England) University. Where as I am here writing the article for many many others to read and comment on. As part of a paper I have written many many many theories on Prime Prime numbers and their significance within many many modern television and radio patternations.

Dear Sirs do not follow in the many many misguided guidances of such people as Sir Arther Conan Doyle and W.G. Wells. Who follow the interpreted beliefs of Issac Newtons third theory of prime number machination's.

I thank you with many many thanks

Susan Peter Steely (Dr)

"Modern Numerolgy"? Heh. Regardless, "Doctor", original research is not appropriate for Misplaced Pages either. — Coren  16:19, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Content's copyright

When I've uploaded some information, I received a note from the administrator saying that that same text was found in an external website. The thing is that I was the one who provided that information to this external website too. Please advise on how to get this text approved. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Emcinc (talk • contribs) 19:21, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

List of Airports in Baja California Sur

About the "similarities" between this newly created page and the "List of airports in Puerto Rico", i have to inform that Baja California Sur is a mexican state, not puertorican, thus the cities and the airports are different. As an example of this statement, the airports of Los Cabos, La Paz and Loreto are south californian airports, while San Juan is a city in Puerto Rico, far far away from this North Western mexican state. --Omar1976 19:33, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Fatty acid-binding protein

CorenSearchBot identified fatty acid-binding protein as a potential copy of . Both contain a list of the family members, but the content of both differ substantially (the wiki article emphasizes genes where SCOP emphasis is on structure). Therefore I have deleted the warning from the article. Cheers. Boghog2 11:44, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Sound Shore Parkway

I think you should know that despite the fact that you tagged my article before I could even add a talk page for discussion, I wrote my own version on the same subject. I suggest that it examine the NYC Roads.com link more carefully for the differences. Besides that, I've actually had contact with the webmaster of that site on numerous road-related issues, including this one. ---- DanTD 12:44, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Grant Llewellyn

I rewrote the article, changing it significantly from the web site that caused it to be tagged. Mugregg 14:49, 9 August 2007 (UTC) User:Mugregg 10:48, 9 August 2007

One Nine Nine Four

Your bot flagged one of my articles as a duplicate. I removed the tag and left a note here, since the duplicate was the same version of the article that I was working on in my sandbox. --Huper Phuff 22:11, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

19th Division (German Empire)

Your bot flagged this article as similar to the page 10th Division (German Empire). They are different pages, but I am using similar templates to build each of the division pages, so they will often be similar to each other in structure, differing only in specific campaigns, subordinate units, and the like. I have removed the tag. Regards, Airbornelawyer 22:48, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

Again. Your bot flagged 20th Division (German Empire) as also being similar to 10th Division (German Empire). If anything, since they were both part of the same corps and recruited from the same part of Germany, the 20th Division article is far more similar to the 19th Division article than either are to the 10th Division article. I don't know why your bot is flagging these, but not the other 30-40 articles I've written using essentially the same division template. Airbornelawyer 02:44, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

This is getting ridiculous. Now I get the same message for 21st Division (German Empire). This is the 46th article I have created or revised based on the same template for German divisions. Why all of the sudden is your bot bothering me? There will be approximately 251 Imperial German divisions following the template, with minor variations. I do not want to go through this annoyance 200 more times. Airbornelawyer 03:51, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Responded on your talk page. — Coren  04:10, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Airbornelawyer 04:12, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Shakespeare's Sonnets

Hello. I was notified that two of the articles I was adding were infringing on the copyright regulations. The notice also mentioned that this may be due to coincidence, of which, this is the case. The two articles are Sonnet 118 and Sonnet 120. How can I remove these tags from the articles? Thank you- --Buey36 06:39, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Broadcast to the nation

This was not copied from the stated website but from an article about Prime Minister Neville Chamberlain

Many thanks

Danny

Black Easter and The Day After Judgment are distinct pages

Just for the record, I am working on building a page for The Day After Judgment. This page currently shares a lot of the text from Black Easter because it is the sequel novel to that book. Right now, Black Easter has the synopsis for both books, and I thought it was useful to have essentially the same information on the other page because the two books are extremely closely related, and sometimes even published together.

However, there is an IMPORTANT difference. Each book cites a different set of Grimoires, and as Blish makes a big deal about the authenticity of these books, I wanted to create complete, accurate, and DISTINCT lists of these books. If there are other important ways to distinguish these pages, I hope you can help me to find them. For my purposes, preserving the lists seperately is very important. Trimalchio 12:08, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Citizendium

Coren, the Citizendium actually uses the same software as Misplaced Pages. In fact, Larry Sanger, who was a co-founder of Misplaced Pages is also the founder of the Citizendium. I assumed that both Misplaced Pages and the Citizendium both use the same type of licence allowing the free exchange of information between both projects. Someone should remove the Copyright Infringement notice from the Banknotes of South West Africa article. - (Numismaticman 13:13, 10 August 2007 (UTC))

CorenSearchBot problem

The bot has just notified User:Huperphuff of a possible copyvio because an article created matches content in: one of Huperphuff's sandboxes! Thought you'd want to know. --Orange Mike 14:40, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Yup. That's a problem. Will fix! — Coren  14:46, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

The Aldridge Foundation

I have just created an entry for The Aldridge Foundation and it appears that it has been flagged up for being very similar to that on the Foundation's website. i work for the Foundation and therefore this is not a problem. I am contactable via the Foundation website through the enquiry form.

Huttdaniel 15:55, 10 August 2007 (UTC) huttdaniel

Valea Mare

Valea Mare River (Bârzava) and Valea Mare River (Reteag) are different rivers. They are both in Romania, but in diffent counties and in different river basins. The tag has been removed.Afil 16:19, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Wow

It's amazing how much content is just copy-pasted off the web. The bot is picking up a lot of stuff. Voice-of-All 16:35, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Hi Coren. May I not use text from other sources even if I have the permission of the source?

Read Misplaced Pages:Requesting copyright permission for instructions on how to do so. --Orange Mike 17:39, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Coren Search Bot Problem

The bot tagged the Yitzhak Gitterman entry. This entry, however, has been uploaded by the USHMM and was given permission to do so by wikipedia. Please see ticket OTRS ticket ticket #2007071910012533 or contact Phil Sandifer with questions Thanks--USHMMwestheim 17:48, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

The Holocaust museum has given permission for these to be uploaded as is by USHMMwestheim. Is it possible to tweak your bot so that it doesn't tag them? Just a thought. --Slp1 17:54, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

They are all from www.ushmm.org --Slp1 18:54, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Merci beaucoup!--Slp1 19:04, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Râul Târgului

Different rivers. Tag removed.Afil 19:27, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Bot behavior when splitting off material

Hi. I was doing disambiguation cleanup work on the disambiguation page Locality and had to split off material to a new wiki article (Locality (statistics)) because it had gotten too long and detailed for a dab page. It then took a few more moments to clean up the rest of the dab page when your bot had already alerted me that Locality (statistics) is almost identical to the current (not yet saved) Locality. Could your program your bot to wait a few minutes before it notifies users of similiar wikipedia articles (in the case that there is splitting off going on)? Thanks (or at least you know of the problem now). :-) – sgeureka 20:57, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

I've responded with a few hints on your talk page. — Coren  22:25, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

9th Legislative Assembly of Ontario

Bad bot! --Big_iron 22:27, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

The comment was a bit tongue-in-cheek ... it is very similar to the other page. I like the idea of spotting content that appear to be cut-and-paste from somewhere else, especially from pages outside of Misplaced Pages. --Big_iron 10:26, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Ronson Lighters Page

--Ronson expert 23:20, 10 August 2007 (UTC) I have been trying to correct and improve the Ronson's Lighters page which incorrectly documents the Ronson lighter Company name. Discussion of the page has suggested a new page be dedicated to Ronson USA and I am attempting to create same. I am new to your website and am doing my best to navigate your system. I am the author of a good portion of the history as seen on the Ronson's page and I thought it would be best to create a new page utilizing the information I provided previously.

PK's age today

I am now ten years old, I will turn 11 years old next year.

Huh, what? — Coren  23:27, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Muncelu River

They are separate rivers. There is something wrong with the Robot. It would be advisable to redesign the robot.Afil 23:49, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

Portsmouth Council elections

Your bot flagged the 2006 election as being the same as the 2004 election so have removed the tag. Davewild 09:43, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

greenwich admirals basketball club

Never used wikipedia to edit before, but i tried to make a page today for my basketball club, greenwich admirals and copy and pasted the text from the site i own and design. It now says that i have breached copyright, which is right.. but it's my material and i wrote it and own it anyway!

Help!? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jubigala (talk • contribs)

Misplaced Pages:Requesting copyright permission contains all you need to know about making sure that the copyrights are cleared to include contents in Misplaced Pages; but you might want to make sure you also read the guidelines on notability and conflict of interest before you create the article again. — Coren  20:51, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Margaret Gowing

I have removed your bot's copyvio re Lorna Arnold. The Lorna Arnold article already exists and Lorna Arnold was an acknowledged assistant of Margaret Arnold in the early 1970s. It was easier to start by doing a copy and paste onto an empty page, from Lorna Arnold, and other pages, and then to copy edit.Pyrotec 18:10, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Putna River

Wrong again.Afil 00:16, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

CorenSearchBot and Smirnov (surname)

A similar situation to Sgeureka's split of Locality (statistics). No problem, I understand. I am doing a huge amount of these, moving lists of people off disambig pages to their own surname or given name articles. You may want to consider informing the bot that Sgeureka and I are experienced disambig-page-splitters, and have it disregard changes made by us, at least if the apparent duplicate is within Misplaced Pages. As for your suggestion to save the split-from page first, I prefer to save the split-to page first, as I would rather have to remove a tag than have a reader find a red link where the new article's blue link should be. Cheers! Chris the speller 01:43, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

 Fixed Excellent idea; that feature has now been implemented. — Coren  01:56, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Lewis J. Martin

The above-named article was tagged by your bot as a copyright violation, but was created from the non-copyrightable Biographical Directory of the United States Congress. Alansohn 02:32, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

William Westgarth

The bot picked up a match with http://www.electricscotland.com/history/australia/westgarth_william.htm but both of these have used the Dictionary of Australian Biography which is in the public domain. — Diverman 07:06, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

reading shared quotes as copyright infringement of other quoter

I created a mini-stub on activist Lilla Watson, much of which consisted of a famous quote attributed to her. I immediately received a bot message warning me that my stub might be deleted fro violating the copyright of this forum post asking for a citation for the same quote.

It's not the end of the world as long as the bot doesn't do anything without human review, but it seems like a waste of energy for a human to have to review such an obvious mistake.

Thanks!

Dybryd 07:17, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Şipotu River

Bad bot! Wrong againAfil 18:58, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Anas Attia

The article being created for 'Anas Attia' has the biography on other websites that were originally lent to them by us (Anas Attia & Associates), Please do not mistakenly erase the page thinking the information was copy/pasted without acknowledgment as we are the original authors of the work. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by MasihF (talk • contribs)

Please read the guide to requesting and formalizing permission to use copyrighted works on Misplaced Pages. Note that, in addition to copyright requirements, the article must still comply with notability guidelines, advertising prohibition and avoid conflicts of interest. — Coren  22:08, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

Reuben Davis (representative)

I just added an article on a former Congressman named Reuben Davis (representative). It is based entirely on public domain text from http://bioguide.congress.gov/scripts/biodisplay.pl?index=D000127. I did not need permission to copy a public domain source and it is not a copyright infringment. Why was this article flagged by the bot? LarryQ 00:34, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Oswald Watt Gold Medal

The bot recorded a match on this article and one I used as a reference. The main match would have been the list of names that have recieved the award (which I don't believe can be copyrighted anyway). Regardless, I have now expanded the list of names from other resources, keeping http://www.gfa.org.au/awards/Oswald.php as one of the references. — Diverman 01:21, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Irish exile banknotes

I don't even know how to copy and paste articles from one source to another. It was annoying trying to link the other website as an external link. I hate it when you get messages saying that there's a fault for one reason or another. It is a major headache, especially for someone who has limited technical experience. - (Numismaticman 03:07, 13 August 2007 (UTC))

I was hoping that someone would have one of these banknotes to illustrate the article. As for citing where the catalogue numbers come from.I did mention that they are from the Standard Catalog of World Paper Money, Specialised Issues. That is not mentioned on the Banknote Wiki website. - (Numismaticman 03:36, 13 August 2007 (UTC))

Junior Balkan Olympiad in Informatics

http://en.wikipedia.org/Junior_Balkan_Olympiad_in_Informatics

This page was deleted because of copyright issues. I have to inform you that I am an author of http://www.jboi2007.org and i wrote all the text on that page. There is no copyright for that text, it can be used freely. It's a competition for children organized by my company and many state institutions and sponsors, and i'm authorized to create page on Misplaced Pages about it, and use any text or images that are approriate.

Can you undelete that page? I don't have time to write it again and again. Thanks in advance

Operation Phantom Strike

The article I added uses info from a military website where the copyright law doesnot apply.--Kumioko 11:21, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Actually the website you are looking at copied the article from the Multi National Force website. Here is the link. Multi National Force Iraq. --Kumioko 12:43, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Mosaic Outdoor Clubs of America

I just posted a new page on Mosaic Outdoor Clubs of America. My name is Rick Dronsky, and I am the Founder of that non-profit organization.

I posted the history of the organization to Misplaced Pages, which I personally drafted, and posted to the Mosaic website. The wikipedia version was updated as of today. The Coren bot tagged my entry as similar to the version on the Mosaic website, and disallowed it as copyrighted material. I am the author of both the version on the website and the Misplaced Pages version.

This is my first attempt at posting to Misplaced Pages, and I am not familiar with how to remove the tag. Can you please assist? Thanks.

Rick Dronsky MosaicRick 12:00, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Serial (radio and television)

CorenSearchBot placed a message on my talk page about the page Serial (radio and television) and possible copyright infringement.

As requested by the bot, I'm leaving this note to inform you that I'm removing the tag. This new article is split from an older one on wikipedia, Serial. The linked webpage, http://www.biodatabase.de/serial, appears to be a copy of that original wikipedia article.

GDFL-compatible material

Hi. What a great bot! I hadn't encountered it before. However, I have one suggestion. When I brought the content for Joseph A. Dandurand over from http://www.nativewiki.org/Joseph_Dandurand, I mentioned in my edit summary that it was under the GDFL, thus obviating the need for the bot's notice. It might be an idea to hve the bot look for "GDFL" in edit summaries, and ignore copied pages where this applies? Vizjim 14:14, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

• Of course, it might help if I called it by its real name, GFDL. D'oh! Vizjim 20:24, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Copyvio bot (false positive)

Hi Coren.

This report made on the talk page of User:Inge is a false positive. If you check the page, the "source" page is a mirror of Misplaced Pages, so I don't see any problems here. Regards. Valentinian 14:38, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Your bot

List of state visits made by King Olav V of Norway is not a copyright enfringement. List of state visits made by King Olav V of Norway, List of state visits made by King Harald V of Norway and List of state visits made by King Haakon VII of Norway are all original articles written by me based on information found on www.kongehuset.no . Mirrors of wikipedia should not be included on the copyvio search. Please correct your bot to this effect.Inge 15:02, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Copyvio false positive

Just to let you know your bot registered a false positive with me, telling me Alexei Markov was the same as User:Severo/sandbox/biographies/Alexei Markov, my sandbox page. I've removed the tag (and requested speedily deletion of my sandbox page), so it's no deal, just to let you know. Severo 16:04, 13 August 2007

PPARG deletion incorrect

PPARG was incorrectly deleted due to suspected copyright violation. Both the content added to the WP page and the "conflicting page" your bot found got their data from a public domain source. (Despite removing the tag and adding a "hangon" template, the page was still deleted. Still trying to follow up with the administrator on that one...) AndrewGNF 16:05, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

State Security Council

You have incorrectly tagged this article as an alleged copyvio. The BBC report is itself based upon the Truth and Reconciliation Commission report which the SSC article quotes extensively. I have removed the tag.Phase4 16:29, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for CorenSearchBot

Hi! I'd just like to thank you for the excellent work you have done on your bot! It immediately noticed a copyvio I had missed on an WP:AFC article. It's great! henrik•talk 20:36, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Daniel E. Somes

Hello: Thanks for the note regarding the above mentioned bio and possible copyright issues. The article was captured from the Congressional Biographies from the US House of Representatives which are not copyright restricted. It seems Infoplease is doing something similar Pmeleski 01:08, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Tiradito

I am sourcing from a page that I wrote, I am linking to the recipe, the content is going to be same as the recipe can't change. 00:55, 14 August 2007 (hist) (diff) Tiradito (←Created page with 'Tiradito, is a relative of ceviche (also known as Cebiche). Its origins can be found in Peru where Japanese and Italian immigration converged, relating this dish to...' Spashley7 01:10, 14 August 2007 (UTC)Spashley7

Barnstar

		The da Vinci Barnstar
		For creating and constantly tweaking CorenSearchBot, and especially for the clever "manual search" function, I hereby bestow upon Coren this da Vinci Barnstar. Don't spend all the prize money in one place!  But|seriously|folks  02:57, 14 August 2007 (UTC)