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:You're welcome. I specifically noted the requests for a better note and for someone besides El_C to do it, so I took a shot. Maybe it will hold. ] 04:37, 25 August 2007 (UTC) | :You're welcome. I specifically noted the requests for a better note and for someone besides El_C to do it, so I took a shot. Maybe it will hold. ] 04:37, 25 August 2007 (UTC) | ||
::I too support your closure. Let the powers-that-be investigate it now. --] 04:41, 25 August 2007 (UTC) | ::I too support your closure. Let the powers-that-be investigate it now. --] 04:41, 25 August 2007 (UTC) | ||
:::I think civil (which this seems to have been) public discussion about such things is helpful. Trying to stifle discussion usually seems like a bad idea to me and often makes things worse. My inclination would be to re-open the discussion and let it die a natural death. ] ] 04:57, 25 August 2007 (UTC) |
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Excessive deletion?
Hey. This looks like an excessive deletion. There does seem to be an OR problem with the article but I assume more of it than "Dunin's descendants were eventually able to escape Poland to France and finally to the United States in the 1940s." is sourced to "Engagement of Countess Revealed", Detroit Times, April 23, 1957, which seems a valid ref. As I can't review that source, I don't know but I suggest the content be restored so the notability of the topic can be thoroughly evaluated during the AfD. WjBscribe 19:11, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
- Sure. But if you look, everything except the engagement and his name in a list of medal winners is sourced to Elonka's family history web site. Thatcher131 19:14, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
- Without being able to read the Detroit Times article, I don't know how much is sourced to that. Our policy does not require every sentence to have an inline citation, just the content as a whole to be sourced. Inline citations just make it easier to check. WjBscribe 19:20, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
- I appreciate that. I suspect it is a generic society engagement article until proven otherwise. Significant informationt that might improve this article would be, exactly what did he do to get the decoration--how was he valorous? All we have is his name on a list and he is either one of 200 4th class winners or one of 5000 5th class winners. Nothing comes up in the Proquest database of historical newspapers (8 major newspapers like the NYT, LA Times, Chicago Tribune, etc, but unfortunately nothing from Detroit.) Thatcher131 19:28, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
- Without being able to read the Detroit Times article, I don't know how much is sourced to that. Our policy does not require every sentence to have an inline citation, just the content as a whole to be sourced. Inline citations just make it easier to check. WjBscribe 19:20, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
- WJ, you are wrong, as I have explained on your talk. Thats not what the reference says. There are no non-trivial reliable sources for this article. --Matt57 19:30, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
- Thatcher131, would you be willing to take a look at Stanley Dunin, as well?Proabivouac 23:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
User talk:Ebonyskye
Just to let you know this user contested his block. I declined it on your and Durova's comments, but if you want to drop him a note that'd be nice :) -- lucasbfr 10:57, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
Midnight Syndicate Arbitration
Hello, Thatcher131. I never know if I should reply on my own talk page or on the page of the editor who left me the message, so I'll do both! I just wanted to thank you for the reminder regarding the arbitration decision. I made two quick edits to remove inappropriate, unreliably sourced content from the Darklore Manor article, then remembered that I wasn't supposed to be doing that, so I stopped. Sorry about that - it won't happen again. - Skinny McGee 14:46, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
Way out of line!
Thatcher! What has gotten into you lately? This edit is absolutely not the kind of "calming" comment that I am used to seeing from you. Seriously...the last part of the comment where you attribute characteristics to Mr. Moore are really surprising...come on man. The discussion is closed now, but seriously...you're only adding meat to the potatoes with that stuff.--MONGO 22:56, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
IRC
I'm trying to figure out how to do this…I downloaded ircle, but it told me my shareware registration had expired (I tried IRC once awhile back.) My e-mail is enabled, though.Proabivouac 00:02, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
- Hi Thatcher131, thanks for your mail; I've responded.Proabivouac 01:08, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
AN/I Discussion
Thank you for closing the discussion with a reasonable closing note. I agree, that discussion got far to heated for AN/I. I hope such matters can be handled better in the future.--Jersey Devil 04:34, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
- You're welcome. I specifically noted the requests for a better note and for someone besides El_C to do it, so I took a shot. Maybe it will hold. Thatcher131 04:37, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
- I too support your closure. Let the powers-that-be investigate it now. --John 04:41, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
- I think civil (which this seems to have been) public discussion about such things is helpful. Trying to stifle discussion usually seems like a bad idea to me and often makes things worse. My inclination would be to re-open the discussion and let it die a natural death. Paul August ☎ 04:57, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
- I too support your closure. Let the powers-that-be investigate it now. --John 04:41, 25 August 2007 (UTC)