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List of image copyright tags

Hey I saw the Latif Pedram picture you uploaded but it is not GFDL license and the Admins check it and they deleted it. Here are a list of different types of licesenses you can use. Click on one type then it will show you all the different lisences for that type. Then copy and paste the tag { { ________ } } and paste it onto the image's page. Here they are http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Image_copyright_tags#List_of_image_copyright_tags--Behnam 06:25, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

But I don't think there is any way we can use that picture. It is copyrighted with the BBC. But its ok, we already got a picture. --Behnam 06:27, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Khorasan TV

Hello. Please see if you can add anything to this new article I opened about Khorasan TV. --Behnam 17:40, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Also please see the Hamid Qaderi article and see if you can add anything there. Thanks. --Behnam 06:22, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

re: Hamed Qaderi

Yeah sure, honestly I was actually just about to do that . --Behnam 07:37, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

re: Articles

Sure. Simply click on the history tab, then find the version that you would like to undo to and then click on undo. And that is all. --Behnam 03:06, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

come on msn --Anoshirawan 03:07, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Greater Iran Template

Salam. I removed the Greater Iran Template from Afghanistan article. Several reasons: The template is designed for the history related articles, while the Afghanistan page is a general article about Afghanistan, only one of its sections is about the History. Secondly, the template should be added to those articles which are mentioned in the Template i.e. Ghaznavids, Timurids, and all other dynasties. So the template is strictly reserved to articles corresponding to the history of dynasties, rulers and governments in Greater Iran. It is far away to add it in the Afghanistan article. Thanks for not adding it again. Khuda Hafez -Ariana 12:14, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Hotaki dynasty

You wrote: "Persian Cromwell was a Book written in Hotaki's court, their is no reason for you to remove this info."

The Persian Cromwell is a work of fiction. It is not a reliable source. See talk page. --Bejnar 23:45, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

• You asked for evidence that Hotaki was a Ghilzai. Read: Malleson, George Bruce (1879) "Chapter 7: The Ghilzai Rule" History of Afghanistan, from the Earliest Period to the Outbreak of the War of 1878 W.H. Allen & Co., London, OCLC 4219393, limited view at Google Books. --Bejnar 23:51, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

THis book was written in 1879 lol. Persian Cromwell is Historical Fiction and is the only english book writeen about him during his rule. I named couple of Persian also and you have no right to remove my info, I know for a fact you dont understand farsi so It would be better if you let ppl write articles who do know.

--Anoshirawan 00:02, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

I am not fluent in Farsi (Persian language); however, I am a trained researcher. You may not understand that fiction, even historical fiction, is not a reliable source. Where did you list the Persian sources? I did not find them on the Hotaki dynasty talk page. --Bejnar 15:38, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Request for Comment: Hotaki dynasty origin and ethnicity

The RFC on the origin and ethnicity of the founder of the Hotaki dynasty are being conducted on the Hotaki dynasty talk page, as that is where a lot of the discussion of this issue has appeared. --Bejnar 16:45, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

University of Balkh

Sallam. I think the correct name for University of Balkh is actually Balkh University. What do you think? --Behnam 20:59, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Its the same. But Balkh University is more common --Anoshirawan 21:58, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

Ok, but would be the official name? --Behnam —The preceding signed but undated comment was added at 19:39, August 23, 2007 (UTC).

For the university in Herat, in English it seems to be Herat University according to the official website http://heratuniversity.org/index.php/home.1242.html. --Behnam 03:20, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Just to let you know, I opened an article for Herat University. -- Behnam 14:47, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Afghanistani singers category merge

There is a discussion to move the Afghanistani singers category to Afghan singers. Please go there and vote oppose and join the discusion there. Here is the link click here. --Behnam 20:33, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Template:History of Afghanistan

Please read the talk page for Template:History of Afghanistan, and undo your edit deleting Hotaki Dynasty. Otherwise, let me know why you are reverting without talk. --Bejnar 21:52, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Category:Politicians of Afghanistan

You have recently recreated or reposted material at Category:Politicians of Afghanistan which previously was deleted in accordance with Misplaced Pages's deletion policies. Please do not recreate this article without prior approval from an administrator or you may be blocked from editing. We ask that you respect what Misplaced Pages is not. If you disagree with the article's deletion, you may seek an independent deletion review. --After Midnight 02:13, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

During the discussion as to whether this category should be deleted I sided with preservation. But User:After Midnight is correct. Those of us who disagree with the decision have other options than recreation as if the deletion discussion had not concluded with delete.

IIRC many of the participants objected to the name being inconsiten with the names of most other categories. So, they would not have objected to Category:Afghanistani politicians, because it was consistent with the hundreds of other categories that were focussed around someone's nationality. Conforming with that convention would erode a lot of the criticisms against Category:Politicians of Afghanistan. Maybe I am overlooking something obvious? The other guy was saying that "Afghan" implied Pashtun. So, could politicians who were from the Pashtun ethnic group also be included in Category:Afghanistani politicians?

There is a forum for discussing categories, prior to creating them. Maybe User:After Midnight can give you advice about where that forum is? Maybe they can give you advice about how to phrase your proposal? I think you will find that if you can get the regular participants in that forum on your side your category will survive a nomination for deletion.

I based my support for Afghanistani over Afghan or Afghani because I trusted a guy who had personal knowledge of the naming conventions of the region. I don't have personal knowledge of the region. But if you or the other fellow initiate the discussion in the forum I would be happy to voice my support.

I am going to leave User:After Midnight a link to my comment.

Cheers! Geo Swan 02:49, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I dont know Why this category is getting deleted. Its a fact that Afghan is synonymous with Pashtun. There were alot of arguments over the term "Afghanistani" but Politicians of Afghanistan is much better than both of them. Politicians of Afghanistan not only includes ethnic Afghans but other ethnicities also so I hope you can change it back to Politicians of Afghanistan. --Anoshirawan 03:25, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

I can't change it back. I am not an administrator. And I would get the same admonishment you got if I tried. And I can't make the initial argument on the forum where people discuss the names of categories, prior to creating them, because, unlike you, I don't have personal knowledge that Afghan==Pashtun.

I think there are two main objections to Category:Politicians of Afghanistan -- IMO they are not really meaningful objections -- but we have to get along with the majority:

1. Systemic bias -- English speakers who can't image that conventional usages in English could be wrong, or deceptive.
2. A misplaced aesthetic sense. Almost all the other categories that focus on people from a particular nationality, or ethnic group, have the nationality first. In general, if the category is for people from nation Foo, who are all of occupation Bar are named, Category:'''Foo'''-istani '''Bar'''. You and the other guy wanted Category:'''Bar''' of '''Foo'''-istan. This offends their esthetic sense. This should be easy to address. If the Foo part should be Afghanistani not Afghan, just use Category:Afghanistani politicians -- and half the objections evaporate.

Cheers! Geo Swan 21:42, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Honestly, if you feel that my decision was incorrect, please do start a deletion review. All of the instructions that you need should be located at this link: WP:DRV. I really do not mind my decision being questioned and encourage you to do so if you truly feel that you are right. --After Midnight 02:35, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

please explain more fully...

Could you please consider using edit summaries when you make edits? You made dozens of edits to articles on my watchlist. If you use edit summaries then other wikipedians can trust they know what is going on with your edits, without checking them out, one at a time. Thanks in advance!

Cheers! Geo Swan 02:24, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

thanks for telling me. --Anoshirawan 03:21, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

82.83.137.200

Sallam. Please do not revert edits by that IP address. Thanks. -- Behnam 17:23, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Template:History of Iran

Do you believe that pre-Aryan history is appropriate for the History of Iran template and for the History of Greater Iran template? Should they include the Median Empire and the Achaemenid Empire? --Bejnar 19:10, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Greater Iran is a Region and it was known as Iran even before the achaemanids but Afghanistan is a new concept which never existed efore the 19th century. the Hotakis had more impact on modern iran than modern day Afghanistan.--Anoshirawan 01:00, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

So, is this statement incorrect: "Notwithstanding this inscriptional use of ērān to refer to the Iranian peoples, the use of ērān to refer to the empire is also attested by the early Sassanid period." ? --Bejnar 16:07, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

3RR warning

You violated the three-revert rule on August 31/September 1 when you reverted Amir Khusrau 5 times within 24 hours, making the same change each time.

I assume you are aware that Misplaced Pages administrators take a pretty dim view of such behavior. --Sarabseth 22:56, 8 September 2007 (UTC)