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	Im interested in the history of Armenia, why Ill pass to edit articles about anything else. Is the user Grandmaster or Baku87 have more rights to edit them even if they broke the Wiki rules. If they think their sources are relevant why to not ask for arbitration? ] 10:38, 11 September 2007 (UTC)		Im interested in the history of Armenia, why Ill pass to edit articles about anything else. Is the user Grandmaster or Baku87 have more rights to edit them even if they broke the Wiki rules. If they think their sources are relevant why to not ask for arbitration? ] 10:38, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
	:No-one has anymore rights than anyone else - everyone is equal. The arbitration committee have been asked previously and this is the resolution - either everyone gots on with it constructively or they get blocked. ] 10:41, 11 September 2007 (UTC)		:No-one has anymore rights than anyone else - everyone is equal. The arbitration committee have been asked previously and this is the resolution - either everyone gots on with it constructively or they get blocked. ] 10:41, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

			== Notice of editing restrictions ==
			] '''Notice:''' Under the terms of ], any editor who edits articles which relate to the region of Turkey, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Iran and the ethnic and historical issues related to that area in an aggressive point of view manner marked by incivility may be placed under several editing restrictions, by notice on that editor's talk page. This notice is to inform you that based on your edits, you are hereby placed under the following restrictions:
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Welcome!

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ASALA

Hi, welcome to Misplaced Pages. Please consider joining WikiProject Armenia. I reverted your edit on ASALA article, because ASALA stoped operating in 1986. Any attacks claimed after that are unverifiable and can not be included in the article. --VartanM 18:15, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

-OK. but why you deleted all other changes too?

Barev; Du inch gidas Urartu mesen?. --Vonones 00:00, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Lol Vonones, Դու ինչ գիտես Ուրարտուի մասին? VartanM 02:42, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

A lot of:) Shat aghbyurner unem haykakan Urartui yev hay patmakan urish khntirneri veraberyal. Urartui masin karogh em ruseren medz nyut ugharkel (author is me), kam el karogh em portsel angleren targmanel. Yete konkret hartsum dzez aghbyurner en petk (sources), indz grek, kportsem ognel. Best wishes, User:Andranikpasha 11:22, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Lav ah aper, email unes? --Vonones 08:15, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Unem ahper! Seghmir "E-mail this user".--User:Andranikpasha 14:25, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Chi agnmem asumeh. "This user has not specified a valid e-mail address, or has chosen not to receive e-mail from other users." --Vonones 10:40, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Pls try again. "E-mail this user"-n arten ashkhatum e..--User:Andranikpasha 23:02, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Not yet, you have to put your email, than check " Enable e-mail from other users" on the bottom. --Vonones 12:39, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

kneres ahper arden ughghetsi. Yete eli chi srtacvi, imats tur, e-mails estegh kgrem!Andranikpasha 15:04, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Agev :) --Vonones 15:47, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

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No problem!

Anytime. Btw I think we should move Medzn Mourad to Hampartsoum Boyadjian since that is his real name and it is quite commonly used. - Fedayee 23:56, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Youre right! I also think about it. In Armenian Medzn Mourad form is very popular but in English "Hampartsum Poyajian" is commonly used. So Ill change it! Thanks again!: Andranikpasha 12:46, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

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Welcome 2

Great job so far, Andranikpasha, but please be careful with quotations, it might be better to rephrase them in many situations. Also, I personally dislike seeing blockquotes, possibly b/c of abusive usage of them here on Misplaced Pages, especially on the 'shaky ground' articles. I would appreciate it very much, if you could avoid them, when possible, and when it does not add much beauty. Misplaced Pages does not take a stance, and it is hard to not impose anything on the reader with blockquoting. Thanks. Deniz_C 21:49, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! I saw it:) But anyways somtimes its better to represent what the sources are asking and this practics is commonly used in Wiki. For example "The Time" is one of the most famous and respected journals in the world and it is interesting what they are writing about the topic (especially if it happens very rarely as in the case of ASALA). Andranikpasha 22:22, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Khojaly Massacre

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content which gains a consensus among editors. . Grandmaster 10:54, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Am I the iniciator? I have no any other purposes except that Im just tring to make that article more neutral- as I represented in the talk page that some of the text links are not reliable sources... so why you dont answer to my questions at the talk page? I hope its the better way to solve whats the better variant. Andranikpasha 11:29, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

Pardon? - Francis Tyers · 17:10, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Parishan

I don't need to provide sources that Azeris and Azerbaijani/Transcaucasian Tatars refer to the same ethnic group. This issue is very well covered in the Azerbaijani people article.

Also, the word Turkish, which exists in the English language, does not mean Azeri. Parishan 08:39, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

As I asked I dont see a big problem to change it but better if with source asking Azeris lived in Shushi (about the name of Shushi see the references, for example- Kalli Raptis) in 1920 as in that time Azerbaijanis was a new official name and we had to be more careful. By the way, we can discuss it in the article's talk page to be available for other users too.Andranikpasha 08:58, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

The usage of a new ethnonym does not mean the creation of a new ethnic group. Inuits are not a newly-born ethnic group just because until the 1970s they were referred to as Eskimo.

I was talking about official terminology used in documents, maps, etc. published at the time. In that term, you won't find a single reference to the city as Shushi. Parishan 09:11, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

see the article's talk page! Andranikpasha 09:17, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Please stop removing the tags from the article. I know you have references, but read the tag: the references don't mean that it must be removed. Parishan 10:29, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

see the articles talk page! provide more that 6 references (as I represented+ other quotations) asking Shusha Massacres or anything else and then add the tags, ok? Andranikpasha 10:35, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

I alone provided 3 sources, where the Shusha events were classified as an Armenian rebellion put down by Azerbaijani forces. That is substantial enough for the neutrality tags to be there. Parishan 10:48, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

2 of them are not reliable- de Vaal (not neutral) and Hrono (whats this, a personal web-page, I can show you other such "sources"???). Pls lets discuss it in the articles talk page!!!!!Andranikpasha 10:56, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Reverts

Hi! Id like to note the last reverts of user Francis Tyers here and here. It seems to be an edit war without any serious explanations. Please could you have a look at that reverts? Thanks in advance! Andranikpasha 21:35, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi, how're you going?

I've had a look- I think all that can be done under the circumstances has been done. At the moment, the article is protected, which is what I would have done- so that all arguments can be discussed on the talk page.

Cheers- CattleGirl 09:41, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank you! The only thing I suggest is to protect it in more neutral (I mean - no-partisan!) variant not in the variant which was criticized more than others! Just one example- they write in description "large number". How we can describe it? Is 300 a large number, is 600 or 6.000000. Its seems to be a very tragic pseudo-mathematics... Andranikpasha 09:49, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

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so lovely

Ah Andranikpasha, ah. When you are on the verge of violating 3RR, when you are making an edit war (assuming I am edit warring, I wouldn't be doing it alone), when you are possibly the only one who openly is of your opinion on the subject, instead of stooping to think why this is the case, you just warn me with that message. Thanks, very selfless deed, indeed. By the way, you reverted three times, assuming that the anon is not you. If that anon is you, you will have broken WP:3RR, and that anon can be considered a sockpuppet of yours. Not a good thing to do. You are already asked to be checked for being a sockpuppet of a (former) featured editor somewhere. Deniz_C 13:13, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

By the way, it is not unlikely that our reverter anon, User talk:69.77.169.2, is similar to User Talk:209.172.44.212, in several ways, one of them being an anonymous proxy. Deniz_C 13:17, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan 2

Please remember the remedies in the above arbitration case - if you continue to edit war on any pages, you will be blocked from editing. Ryan Postlethwaite 10:19, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the info but I cant understand have I rights to revert the unrelated information from the arrticle or no? For example my reverts for today. A user added previously discussed source related to Albania and Arcakh to prove something related to ...Arran and Karabakh. What must I do for a better way? PS - I didnt remember if even I deleted any relevant reliable information from an article. Is there such a fact??...Andranikpasha 10:26, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

What you need to do is not revert war, however much you believe something is wrong, just walk away from it. The articles you are involved in editing cause massive conflicts, hence the two arbitration cases. The latest one gives any administrator the right to block a user causing disruption in these articles post a warning, that's what the above warning is serving as. Please, just move onto something else. Ryan Postlethwaite 10:30, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Im interested in the history of Armenia, why Ill pass to edit articles about anything else. Is the user Grandmaster or Baku87 have more rights to edit them even if they broke the Wiki rules. If they think their sources are relevant why to not ask for arbitration? Andranikpasha 10:38, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

No-one has anymore rights than anyone else - everyone is equal. The arbitration committee have been asked previously and this is the resolution - either everyone gots on with it constructively or they get blocked. Ryan Postlethwaite 10:41, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

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Notice: Under the terms of Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Armenia-Azerbaijan 2, any editor who edits articles which relate to the region of Turkey, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Iran and the ethnic and historical issues related to that area in an aggressive point of view manner marked by incivility may be placed under several editing restrictions, by notice on that editor's talk page. This notice is to inform you that based on your edits, you are hereby placed under the following restrictions:

Revert limitation (formerly known as revert parole). You are limited to one revert per page per week, excepting obvious vandalism, and are required to discuss any content reversions on the page's talk page.
Supervised editing (formerly known as probation). You may be banned by any administrator from editing any or all articles which relate to the region of Turkey, Armenia, Azerbaijan and Iran and the ethnic and historical issues related to that area should you fail to maintain a reasonable degree of civility in your interactions with one another concerning disputes which may arise.
Civility supervision (formerly known as civility parole). If you make any edits which are judged by an administrator to be uncivil, personal attacks, or assumptions of bad faith, then you may be blocked for a short time of up to one week for repeat offenses.

Enforcement: Violations of limitations, supervision, or bans imposed by the remedies in this case may be enforced by brief blocks of up to a week in the event of repeat violations. After 5 blocks the maximum block period shall increase to one year.

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