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] ] ] ~~ -]] 06:13, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

Notice: to all persons who visit any page within "hopiakuta": due to the fact that several of you have complained about my signature, & refused to negotiate,.... I now declare that anyone whose signature does not match their username, userpage, screenname, et al, is not welcome. All signatures must be identifiable as your screenname, or I shall consider it vandalism, spam. Honest people, w/ truthful screennames, are welcome.

I only want honest messages on this page, no fraudulent screennames, please.

If your signature has a contradictory screenname, other than your userpage, if you would explain that contradiction in the final paragraph of each message, then I can accept that.

Anything else is fraud, deception, vandalism, spam.

Thank You,

] ] ] ~~ -]] 22:46, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

corruption

Hello, many of your edits seem corrupted; if you're having problems or questions, please see Misplaced Pages:Questions or Misplaced Pages:Help desk. -- intgr  23:39, 26 August 2007 (UTC)

You have new messages (last change).

You may have a slight misconception. I am employing a ten year old machine. My edits are largely what I type; but, the thing freezes, crashes, on large pages, which is likely what your reference is. It, as well, would freeze &/or crash f/ whatever other use might annoy it.

As f/ corrupt edits, although mine seem to come-through fine; however, it converts foreign characters on the page to question marks, ?. Characters of France, Spain, seem to rarely get deleted.

Please, if I cannot go to that page, how might I convince this machine to only concentrate on what I typewrite?

Thank You,

] ] ] ~~ -]] 01:33, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

= example : =

];  
< http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=frank&diff=153766259&oldid=153719271 >.

Thank You,

] ] ] ~~ -]] 12:10, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

I do get far too much of this, even where no other person is involved:

Edit conflict

User talk:Hopiakuta

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edit conflict

] ] ] ~~ -]] 12:32, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Edit conflict: Talk:John Conyers

This is a talk page. Please respect the talk page guidelines, and remember to sign your posts by typing four tildes (] ] ] ~~ -]] 19:00, 28 August 2007 (UTC)).

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Edit conflict: Talk:John Conyers

This is a talk page. Please respect the talk page guidelines, and remember to sign your posts by typing four tildes (~~~~).

Someone else has changed this page since you started editing it, resulting in an edit conflict. The upper text area contains the page text as it currently exists (without your changes). Your version of the page (with your changes) is shown in the lower text area. You will have to merge your changes into the existing text in the upper text area to incorporate your edits. Only the text in the upper text area will be saved when you press "Save page"; all other changes in the lower text area will be lost.

] ] ] ~~ -]] 19:00, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

] 14:00, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

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] 14:00, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

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Server “en.wikipedia.org” is currently inaccessible.

(Network error #268435556)

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Servery nadace Wikimedia Foundation mají momentáln? technické problémy.

Ty jsou s nejv?t?í pravd?podobností jen do?asné a budou, doufejme, brzy vy?e?eny. Prosíme, zkuste stránku nahrát znovu za n?kolik minut.

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If reporting this error to the Wikimedia System Administrators, please include the following details: Request: POST http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Talk:Mary_Pipher&action=submit, from 66.230.200.138 via sq31.wikimedia.org (squid/2.6.STABLE12) to () Error: ERR_CANNOT_FORWARD, errno (11) Resource temporarily unavailable at Wed, 29 Aug 2007 16:13:30 GMT

Server “en.wikipedia.org” is currently inaccessible.

(Network error #268435556)

The servers are failing.

] ] ] ~~ -]] 17:00, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

network error Network error #-3159

Network error #-3159

Network error #-108

Your signature

Whatever you're trying to do with your signature, it's not working. KurdzenWeys 20:16, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

...But, however, it, actually is; here's why:

When other persons do not sign a signature, I can copy this   :
<nowiki> " ] ] ] " </nowiki>, & paste, to achieve something noticeable, similar to:

Please do sign your signature!!  ¡  ¿  ~~  !!

And that means absoloutely nothing. KurdzenWeys 13:34, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

If you can not conceive of this as an alert, that's one thing; but, does mean anything?

Absolutely? Wow, such pomposity.

We do need a better signature solution,....

Every time that a talkpage, discussionpage, is edited, a signature should automatically attach to the bottom, unless the message-author would otherwise set the parameters.

Five unsigned messages in one week, & their parameters would be overridden, for six months.

If you would all sign then I could shorten my signature, or employ one of those art illegible signatures, w/ the silly offensive colors, tiny characters,.... & several of the other qualities that make the pages unreadable.

Thank You,

] ] ] ~~ -]] 14:40, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Please do sign your signature!!  ¡  ¿  ~~  !!

The signature issue is extremely complex; we do need a true solution.

Thank You,

] ] ] ~~ -]] 20:52, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

preference

< http://en.wikipedia.org/special:preferences >;

< http://en.wikipedia.org/special:contributions/hopiakuta >.

Why is it that in preference | preferences my name does not appear f/ viewing, editing?

Thank You,

] ] ] ~~ -]] 23:28, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

talk : Larry Craig Larry Craig

This page is so large that it crashes my machine:

< http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=talk:Larry_Craig&action=history >;

< http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=talk:Larry_Craig&diff=154259630&oldid=154252976 >;

< http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=talk:Larry_Craig&diff=154275178&oldid=154274801 >.

Someone said that "This guy is the second longest serving member of the Congress from Idaho." So, how do they know that?

Was he in that restroom stall , toilet stall , in order to locate a place to store his career? A bowl, tank?

Is he from Boy-see, I'd-a-'ho?

How did that Republican singing senator concept go?

It seems that each of them could use the cliché , A funny thing happened on the way to the Forum,... :

Jim Jeffords ;

Trent Lott ;

John Ashcroft ;...

] ] ] ~~ -]] 01:19, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

"Larry Craig comes out swinging.":

< http://google.as/search?q=%22larry+craig+comes+out+swinging%22+%22%22+%22%22+%22%22 >.

acquired narcissism

acquired situational narcissism

] ] ] ~~ -]] 03:30, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Talk:John McArdle

Hi - the edits that you made to Talk:John McArdle and Talk:McArdle both appear to suffer from the same problems that you've had elsewhere. If the problem is with your computer, please don't use that computer to edit Misplaced Pages until you've found and resolved the problem. Thanks. Tim Pierce 05:43, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Why do you destroy w/ no explanation?

You do not explain your complaint; so, my problem is very much, you, specifically, absolutely, completely, definitively. Obnoxious, noxious, elitist, imperious, imperialist, plutocrat, oligarch, handicappist, manure.

] ] ] ~~ -]] 06:05, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

twp township town ship twerp rollcall rollcall.com

It's not usually considered necessary to give a detailed explanation for undoing a nonsense edit. I'm sorry if this was confusing. The edits you made to Talk:John McArdle and Talk:McArdle did not make any sense and included what looked like spam links to http://www.rollcall.com/ as well. From the earlier conversation on this talk page, I understood you to be saying that your computer is interfering somehow with your ability to edit Misplaced Pages coherently. If that's the case, please stop editing Misplaced Pages until you've resolved the problem. Thanks -- Tim Pierce 07:20, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

] 00:41, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

cent sent sense

Your earlier comments were completely generic; this is more specific, therefore, the contents can be disproven.

Except for your repetitively thanking me f/ being your slave, accepting your commandments, piglet.

I shall edit this further, later,...

If everything that I do is such nonsense, then I guess that you would want me to return this edit to where I'd found it. Your computer is completely full of whoppers. Actually, even this deletion is likely meaningful to someone in some British village; therefore, despite my having deleted it, it is not complete nonsense :

< http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=whopper_%28disambiguation%29&diff=153546244&oldid=153481981 >.

I'll add more later.

What about this?:

< http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=talk:ute&diff=70423252&oldid=33087665 >.

• John McArdle (rollcall.com)

• Dan_Popkey , Idaho_Statesman

< http://rollcall.com/contactus >;

< http://rollcall.com/cgi-bin/udt/fdc.collector?client_id=rollcall&form_id=maileditform&link_id=102 >;

< http://rollcall.com/issues/1_1/breakingnews/19681-1.html >

• John McArdle (rollcall.com)

• John McArdle

• mcardle
• mccardle

• Ex_parte_McCardle
• Eliza_McCardle_Johnson
• Peter_McCardle

McArdle could be

• McArdle's Disease - a metabolic disease more often known as glycogen storage disease type V
• Aidan McArdle - an Irish actor
• Andrea McArdle - an Irish-American singer and actress
• Megan McArdle - a Washington-based blogger and journalist
• Pete McArdle - an Irish-American long-distance runner
• Peter McArdle - an English artist
• Rory McArdle - a football player for Northern Ireland and Rochdale

• Kenndal_McArdle
• Joseph_A._McArdle
• Mark_McArdle
• Charlie_McArdle
• Fiachra_McArdle
• Nick_McArdle
• Cormac_McArdle
• Kevin_McArdle
• Teddy_McArdle_Free_School

] ] ] ~~ -]] 05:30, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Someone has actually coined

"Clenis" as "Clinton penis".

Larry Craig has coined "probably even a nasty, bad, naughty boy.", "probably even a nasty, bad, naughty boy. (dirty boy)".

fence offend

If I have offended you then I am sincerely sorry! I will not thank you any more. :-) I only wanted to let you know that the changes you are making to Misplaced Pages are considered nonsense by other editors and are being reverted, and if you continue in this vein then it is likely that an administrator will be asked to block you. Tim Pierce 13:15, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Incidentally, now that I see that some of the McArdle references you added were genuine, I have incorporated them into the McArdle page in a way that I think is more consistent with its structure. I hope that this is helpful! Tim Pierce 13:35, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

] 00:41, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

adoptme

This user seeks adoption by an experienced editor. (Users offering adoption)

____ ____
<nowiki> {{ adoptme }} </nowiki>

< http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Adopt-a-User >;
< http://en.wikipedia.org/wikipedia:adopt-a-user >;
< http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Adopt-a-User/Adoptee%27s_Area/Adopters >;
< http://en.wikipedia.org/wikipedia:adopt-a-user/adoptee%27s_area/adopters >;
< http://en.wikipedia.org/wikipedia:adopt-a-user/adoptee%27s_area/adopter >;
< http://en.wikipedia.org/wikipedia:adopt-a-user/adoptee%27s_area >;

< http://en.wikipedia.org/Image:Presa_de_decissions.png >;
< http://en.wikipedia.org/image:presa_de_decissions.png >.

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13, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

] ] ] ~~ -]] 06:45, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

gibberish

please stop adding unintelligible gibberish to talk pages. older ≠ wiser 21:56, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Here is a signature:

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] 11:15, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

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] 11:25, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

Little context in Oops

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September 2007

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Category:Redirects_to_Wiktionary

I have been informed that all redirects to wiktionary are violative; therefore, the category, & all content, are in violation.

] 07:50, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

category:redirects_to_Wiktionary

< http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=special:log&page=oops >;

user_talk:ojwang ;

< http://en.wikipedia.org/user_talk:ojwang >;

< http://en.wikipedia.org/user_talk:hopiakuta >.

] 05:19, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

These must now all be deleted:

category:redirects_to_Wiktionary

]

{{db-nocontent}}

{{subst:afd}}

< http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Category:Redirects_to_Wiktionary&from=Wuffo >;

< http://en.wikipedia.org/Category_talk:Redirects_to_Wiktionary >;

< http://en.wikipedia.org/Category:Redirects_to_Wiktionary >;

< http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Category:Redirects_to_Wiktionary&until=Wuffo >.

] 14:30, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

< http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Category:Redirects_to_Wiktionary&from=Misplaced Pages%3AWikimedia+sister+projects >;

< http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Category:Redirects_to_Wiktionary&until=Misplaced Pages%3AWikimedia+sister+projects >.

] 01:15, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Redirects to Wiktionary

Redirects to wiktionary are not valid candidates for speedy deletion. They are not "articles" in the sense indicated by the criteria for speedy deletion. Please stop tagging them for deletion. older ≠ wiser 15:21, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Your fraudulent screnname is vandalism, by my definition.

As is your self-contradictory-rationale.

As you can clearly see above, all external redirects are now violative.

Unless you reactivate mine; or explain the distinction.

I, hereby, demand that they all be reviewed.

Making these requests is exactly according to the regulations; you can decide whether to comply in a fair manner, or admit fraud.

I do note that you have complied w/ some of the deletions that I have requested; though not others: Why????

Explain your deceptive signature in each message.

] 15:35, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

First stop ranting about my signature. Sorry if you don't like it, but that's just too bad.

Second, whatever it is that you mean by As you can clearly see above, all external redirects are now violative. -- I do not think redirects to wiktionary are not deletable under the criteria for speedy deletion. I did not delete any of the deletions you requested -- those were done by another editor. I have restored them. older ≠ wiser 16:09, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

On Category talk:Redirects to Wiktionary, I requested a link to the "external redirects are now violative" instructions. --Kralizec! (talk) 17:06, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

oops Thank You for reactivating "oops", which is how I pronounce ups,... frequently, not necessarily universally. The parcel truth.

On a mutual basis, it does seem that your perceptions, my perceptions, reciprocally annoy (&/or infuriate) each other.

However, if you do do something that I would consider helpful, assistive, positive, productive, ethically, if feasible, I should thank you; therefore, I do, hereby, Thank You.

Please do meet me halfway on two other factors,...:

In your final paragraph, declare your screenname, so that it is legible. Please do respect my disability access need.

Further, if creating oops is prohibited, then it is approved,...

We certainly do need a consistent policy, so that the authority f/ page #one, applies to page #two, page #three, page #four,... et cetera.

If I can comprehend something, then I am much more likely to comply, much like most persons. If a regulation seems self-contradictory, then complication is much more likely than the capability to comply.

Certainly a webpage created as an impractical joke should be deleted.

This website advertizes that it is f/ everybody; when shall that be??

____

Thank You f/ the reactivation,

DonFphrnqTaub Persina,

] 17:50, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

≠

While I was scribing this comment, someone scribed another message, that I do not know how to decrypt, though part of it does paraphrase something that I had written.

As DonFphrnqTaub Persina is a physical entity, I do need to do some physical errands w/o keyboard, f/ a while.

] 17:50, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Huh? I am afraid that I have very little idea what you just said . --Kralizec! (talk) 19:43, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

The last portion had been:

While I had been typewriting much of that, you had added a message that I could not comprehend, interpret.

I do not know what you want me to do. Those two messages are the only place(s) that I've seen your screenname, as I recall.

] 22:40, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Your random removal of approximately 20% of the Eureka, California article in your edit of that article

Are you aware that you removed the entire bottom portion of the Eureka, California Article? I am not sure what happened, but I wanted to call it to your attention. A great deal of work done to that article was wiped away in a key stroke by your hand. This type of editing is disturbing to one who has labored long and hard to develop an article. Further you placed question marks anywhere there were metric measurements in the beginning of the article. These units of measurement are standard Wiki procedure. My hope is that by bringing this to your attention, you may avoid such a massive article upset in the future. Norcalal 08:26, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Please do include a legible, readable, screenname.

As for your message, if anything had been deleted, particularly on such a scale, I simply do not know what to say,... I had not attempted to alter any of that, at all.

Is it conceivable that anyone could read the serverlog, in order to discern what could've occurred? If someone could do so, then, possibly, they could figure how to avoid it from recurring.

If I had somehow caused that, well, I am simply sorry. Certainly, if someone would intentionally do that, it would be vandalism.

I am taking a very long time to typewrite this, as I do not comprehend enough to say much of anything worth having been said. Certainly such an incident deserves a description, which I do not have. It deserves a response; but I have very little of that, except to babble. Whenever a person answers a question, they should include appropriately credible content; if I could think of any, I would have completed this message, & saved it, half an hour ago, an hour ago.

< http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Eureka%2C_California&diff=155752201&oldid=155463391 >.

I just do not know what to say, typewrite,....

Sorry,

DonFphrnqTaub Persina,

] 13:25, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

Talk: Barack Obama

Please stop. If you continue to use talk pages such as Talk:Barack Obama for inappropriate discussion, as described here, you may be blocked. If you have a point that is relevant to the editing of the article, please make it in a cogent manner. Tvoz |talk 08:00, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

If listing his quotes from yesterday is in violation, then, once again, this website proves its bias.

] 08:10, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

The problem is you did not identify those as his quotes, nor did you make any point - did you want them included in the article in some way? If so, say where and why. The article talk page is not a forum for airing of anyone's opinions about the subject - it is for discussion how to edit the page. I'm sorry, but your entries were incomprehensible. Tvoz |talk 08:17, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

If you'd like to compile lists of quotations, the place to go is Wikiquote. Misplaced Pages articles are not mere collections of quotes, and talk pages certainly aren't. Best, Iain99 16:37, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

I've already put an explanation there.

Thank You.

&, I am truly pleased that the past couple of signatures seem to match the screennames; that's progress.

] 17:10, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Not really, no - you have not put an explanation there. You've said these are quotes from Obama, but give no sources, which is your responsibility as the one providing the quotes, not others' responsibility to go hunt them down. But more importantly, you have not indicated why you've posted them or what point you think they illustrate. They don't belong on the article's talk page, and it's not clear where in the article you think any of them would belong. Iain99's suggestion is good about Wikiquotes. Tvoz |talk 17:31, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

I did offer an explanation; but, I had neglected the proof:

I had sincerely thought that many other people would have heard it. So, it seems, the people who care about those pages, had never heard it:

< http://google.as/search?q=%22i+think+we+should+not+have+had+this+discussion%22+%22perpetuates+this+notion%22+%22disastrous+foreign%22+%22bad+options%22 >.

Thank You,

] 18:10, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

I was not questioning the authenticity of the quotes - I was explaining that to include them in any wikipedia article you'd need to include references - direct quotes have to have specific citations attached to them, so that they can be verified by anyone who wants to do so. The Congressional Record, newspaper articles citing them, etc - reliable sources. And they need to have context and some indication of what point they are illustrating. I can't speak for anyone else, but as one of the people who edits the Obama pages, yes, I heard his comments at the hearing, but that is not relevant to anything - you seem to be offering them up as something that should be included in the article, so you need to do the legwork and give the sources and context. Other editors can always refine it, but you need to give us more than just some quotes without anything else. So why don't you try Bobblehead's suggestion on the article talk page and see how it might fit into the advocacy section - you can post your draft on talk first if you like - and/or consider the separate article specifically about his political positions where it might fit more comfortably. The point is - you chose to bring these quotes forward, and presumably you had a point you wanted to make. So please share that with us - if you don't want to tackle the actual adding of this to the article that's ok - maybe someone else will then come along and get it, and he or she might try incorporating the quotes into the article. And one other thing - your accusations of bias are neither productive nor accurate, so could you please stop that. Tvoz |talk 19:59, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Do you use a screen reader?

On your talk page, you have said "please do respect my disability access need". Are you using a screen reader? I am blind and I am an administrator who uses one - I would be happy to help you out with any questions you may have. There is a little help at wikipedia:using JAWS and some tidbits at wikipedia talk:accessibility. If you are using a screen reader, which one are you using and what version is it? I could try to help you out with your editing issues - for example when people say that you accidentally turn some text into question marks, that is caused by some part of your system not supporting unicode characters. Graham87 02:33, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Thank You.

Thank You.

Thank You.

Thank You.

I did want to stress that first, respect to respect; however, in a variety of ways, my electronic-disabilities, physical-disabilities, emotional-disabilities, cognitive-disabilities, are slightly different than all of that.

Far too difficult & painful to typewrite that right now; however, some of it could be spoken telephonically, per your instructions, whatever they might be, if that would be acceptable. My disabilities do include many complex complications, complicated complexities. Did I communicate that I am complex? If we do speak, w/o keyboard, then I might add an additional pun @ some point. That's my warning; lots of people have listened to them w/ no warning.

Anyhow, truly describing what the problem is; well, I've been attempting to describe it in various messages since June, 2006, when I had found an extremely racist, extremely handicappist, policy page, about vandalism. @ the time, I did not really know much of anything about opening a page, nor an account, et al.

Naturally, as the page had been about vandalism, & because I did not know how to open a page, I was, obviously, immediately, accused of vandalism. It took several months for anyone to actually read my complaints; I was repetitively accused of vandalism, & a variety of other crimes. One time, someone had actually cancelled my account f/ a few hours; although the message @ that specific moment had not specifically been about disability-access, directly.

Anyway, eventually, I had convinced one of you to cancel that webpage, in terms of its being presented as policy. Now, although the page is no longer there, I do contend that the attitude persist, virulently. I do sense it w/ virtually every message that I scribe,..... & every page that I peruse .

You obviously feel otherwise about this website; however, I do sense a persistent aura of disability genocide, underclass genocide. If you can comprehend this, when society removes the specific veneer, the actual policy, of segregation, oppression, exclusion, et cetera,... The poison, the corrupting venom, may persist in the various bodily fluids, akin to destroying lymph, blood, marrow,....

I do know that you had expected that my primary disability, my severest disability, would be visual in nature. Now, although I currently have my machine set @ twenty pica, that is far from being my severest symptom. It is far down on the list, one of many thousands of symptoms.

Sorry f/ not having the response that you had wanted; but, I thought that this should be said.

Thank You,

DonFphrnqTaub Persina,

] 06:30, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

Graham 87

Graham 87

Henry Louis Mencken a mistake:

You never push a noun against a verb without trying to blow up something.

In a 26 July 1920 article in the Baltimore Evening Sun, Mencken wrote about the difficulties of good men reaching national office when such campaigns must necessarily be conducted remotely:

The larger the mob, the harder the test. In small areas, before small electorates, a first-rate man occasionally fights his way through, carrying even the mob with him by force of his personality. But when the field is nationwide, and the fight must be waged chiefly at second and third hand, and the force of personality cannot so readily make itself felt, then all the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre — the man who can most easily adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum.

The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron.

Mencken's paper published his "secret diary" in 1989, kept sealed for 25 years after his death in 1956, on his instructions. According to an item in the South Bay (California) Daily Breeze on December 5, 1989, titled "Mencken's Secret Diary Shows Racist Leanings," Mencken's views shocked even the "sympathetic scholar who edited it," Charles A. Fecher of Baltimore.

There was a club in Baltimore called the Maryland Club which had one Jewish member, and that member died. Mencken said "There is no other Jew in Baltimore who seems suitable," according to the article.

And the diary quoted him as saying of blacks, in 1943, "...it is impossible to talk anything resembling discretion or judgment to a colored woman..."

The Diary of H. L. Mencken was published by Alfred A. Knopf.

If much of what he had written had been handicappist & racist, how does that affect the relevance to our era, nearly a century later?

] 07:50, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

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