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Gunnhild and a Q

Dear Brian, I will shortly have a look at the article's nomination. I am preparing a large article on rune stones that talk of voyages into modern Russia and Ukraine. It contains information on stones that refer to men who travelled to Austr, Austrvegr, to Garðar and to specific locations such as Novgorod. There is also a stone that mentions one of the Dniepr rapids. However, I don't known what would be the proper name for the article. "Eastern Europe Runestones", "Gardariki Runestones" or "Rus Runestones"? Do you have any suggestion?--Berig 18:29, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Gallery

PS, why did you remove the gallery?--Berig 18:30, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Malta related article at Misplaced Pages:Articles for deletion/St John's Square

Dear member of WikiProject Malta, I'd like to invite you to participate in an ongoing Article for Deletion debate about St John's Square in the capital of Malta. We'd like your input about whether the article should stay and go (and if you want to expand the stub, that would be great too!) All the best, Eliz81 21:20, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Gunnhild

Hey, I hope I haven't been too much of an asshole over this FAC thing. I just wanted to say, because I probably haven't made it clear, that I think you've written quite a nice article even if I think there's still a bit of work to do before FA status. Haukur 23:20, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

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Varangian Runestones

After having the article as a text file for weeks, I have made it into a WP article now. Any help from you in improving the article would be welcome.--Berig 21:47, 28 July 2007 (UTC)

Just checked and Gwyn Jones's book has a large section on Aldeigjuborg and other Varangian stones. I will read up and get cracking on this ASAP. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 02:33, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Great! :).--Berig 05:54, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

Sargon of Akkad

Hey their bud. Just wanted to know what are the chances of the page being in wiki's front page? Chaldean 14:45, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

RFAR

You have been named as a party in an RFAR at Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration#Allegations of apartheid. --Ideogram 06:12, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

I have had a long history of interaction with Ideogram. Brian, I believe you'd be better served by ignoring the baseless attacks, rather than addressing each of them on the RfAr page. --Ghirla 23:11, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Advice about when a disambiguation tag may be warranted

Hi Brian, I am in a disagreement with a new user about when a disambiguation tag may be useful. Pershaps, you have an opinion in the issue.--Berig 17:07, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

Zog Nit Keynmol

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Military history WikiProject coordinator selection

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Could I use one of your maps?

Hi,

I was searching for a good map to use to show the political situation in Central Asia in the mid-fifteenth century and I came across one of your maps, Image:Hephthalite.png. I tried superimposing what I had already made over the image and it worked out pretty well. Is there any way you could do me a favor and send me a copy of this same map without the country names and Hephthalite borders? I would really appreciate your help in this matter. Thanks,

Ro4444 23:37, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

Cool, that's exactly what I needed. Thanks a lot for your help! Ro4444 22:55, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

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Military history WikiProject coordinator election

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Skhimar

Hello, I started the page. There is very little information about the place. Perhaps you can expand it from your sources. --Ghirla 14:50, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

That guy keeps removing links to Rus Khaganate from the article Kievan Rus. --Ghirla 16:26, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

Aesir-Asura correspondence

Just so you know, I've replied to your question on the talk page to Aesir-Asura correspondence. --Tlatosmd 08:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm sorry, I've corrected my mistake. I'd hastily jumped to the conclusion that the bottom entry must have been made by the last edit. --Tlatosmd 13:38, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

DYK

On 25 August, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Jewish Orphanage in Oslo, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Carabinieri 16:25, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

Template:Trade route

Greetings,
I saw the expansion done on the template and thought I'd offer my compliments. Your additions have made the template much more informative.
With Regards,
Havelock the Dane 17:38, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 17:50, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Text of the article

Briangotts, thanks for the encouraging response, I have added the Revision 2 August 2006 text to your new page, it should give you enough food for thought. Barefact 08:21, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

The article was deleted because it is OR. You won't find such a thing in google books, JSTOR and etc. For example, one of the sources claims Sumerian is Turkish! Ossetian today is considered an Iranian language by all academic sources as well. Basically, the fact that Scythians are considered an Iranian people is attested in any modern academic source today and is not challegened. It is not a hypothesis, but considered a fact and a major conference in 2007 was conduct recently. So to create OR and weird hypothesis is not part of Enyclopedia entry. I have notified user Dbachmann who has overseen this article. There was a reason the article was deleted in the first place. It was OR. You won't find such an OR in any academic western source. For example, note this piece of original research trying to connect the word "As/Os" with Azeri: "Note Az-eri, whose endoethnonym is Azeri". Actually Azeri is shortened of Azerbaijani and it is ethnonym that is fairly recent (150) years and takes it from the geographic region of Azerbaijan. It is not related etymologically with As/OS but with Persian Azar (fire) and ultimately with Atropates. There are reasons why Misplaced Pages does not allow original research. There are too many knowledgeable people about Scythians in Misplaced Pages, so original research will not fly and the article was deleted precisely because it was OR. Finally, there is a Scythian article and any psuedo-scientific nationalistic writing that challeges the mainstream should be discussed there. --alidoostzadeh 18:37, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

There seem to be quite a few sources cited so much of the article isn't OR per se. It does seem to be a fringe theory; as such it may merit a brief mention in the Scythian article but certainly can't be given undue weight. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 14:17, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Actually outside of few scholars from selected countries that speak Altaic languages, all scholars affirm mainstream facts. So the theory is not even fringe, but it is non-existant. --alidoostzadeh 01:59, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

My point is to extricate myself from the article, leaving only the historical facts that are referenced, verifiable, and verified. These would remove the objections of the people like Ali doostzadeh who aim to remove the history of the theory from the public scrutiny, and present the current theory as a fact accomply. In the postings and discussions, the most authorative references were removed, presenting a distorted historical picture. I am looking for a good faith neutral editor. Thanks, Barefact 09:54, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

The alternative theory of yours does not exist in academic circles. Actually what you wrote was all OR, trying to synthesize statements from different scholars when they blatantly state the fact. As an example of your OR, the word Azeri was related to As/Os where-as the words have different etymologies all together. The fact is from the last 30 years all sources explicitly refer to Scythians as Iranians. There was a conference in europe in 2007 about Scythians with tons of articles. If your fringe theory had any support, it would have been stated there by someone, but it was not. Find some academic western scholars in major western universities who specialize on the topic that support your fringe theory. Such academics do not exist and thus we can not put your theories up. That is why your article was deleted in the first place. Just to prove the absurdness of your theory, ,John William Donaldson in 1860 affirms the Iranian origin of Scythians in his "The Ethnography of ancient Italy": The philogical study of latin language. This is 1860 way before you claim that "Scytho-Iranian" theory was proposed!(many more can be found..). --alidoostzadeh 23:19, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

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Franco-Mongol alliance

Hi, your name was recommended to me as someone who was one of the Mongol experts on Misplaced Pages? Do you have access to many reliable sources, specifically about their activities in the Middle East around the year 1300? We've run into some conflicting reports in our own sources, but our own books are mostly focused on the Crusades and the Arab caliphates, and none of us seem to have access to Mongol-focused books. And Google searches seem to be drawing up the pseudo-history websites, so we could really use help from reliable sources. Is this something that you might be able to help with? Any help appreciated, Elonka 16:47, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks.  :) Do you yourself have access to any of those books? --Elonka 17:58, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Dreadstar RfA

Brian,
Thank you for your participation in my RFA, which closed successfully with 55 supports, 15 oppose, and 1 neutral. No matter if you !voted support, oppose, neutral, I thank you for taking the time to vote in my nomination. I'm a new admin, so if you have any suggestions feel free to let me know. I would like to give a special shout out to Fang Aili, Phaedriel, and Anonymous Dissident, for their co-nominations. Thank you all!

Thanks for your support! I took the easy way out of thanking everyone by stealing borrowing someone else's design...but know that I sincerely appreciate your support and confidence in me! Dreadstar † 07:08, 18 September 2007 (UTC)