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Cyril of Alexandria

Thanks for the tip. But Catholics, as far as I know, don't recognize the patriarch of Alexandria as a "pope". (So to say that "Cyril of Alexandria" was a "pope" implies a POV, no?) But the Eastern Orthodox and Coptics wouldn't deny that Cyril was at least a patriarch (even if he was pope). So how can we refer to him with a NPOV? --Hyphen5 04:54, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

I think likewise, the Eastern Orthodox/Copts wouldn't call the Roman patriarch "Pope". Short of editing all the Catholic entries to list the western Pope the "Patriarch of Rome," I think using a term that's accepted both in the dictionary and wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/Pope_%28disambiguation%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/List_of_Orthodox_Patriarchs_of_Alexandria

isn't very POV. One thing we could do to clear up confusion of the term is to link to the Patriarch page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/List_of_Orthodox_Patriarchs_of_Alexandria

This might be a nice compromise?

Scott5834 12:23, 14 August 2006 (UTC)

I can live with that! --Hyphen5 03:13, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Pu-erh Tea

For your continued help on the Pu-erh Tea page. Very helpful! Learning lots of tricks through the fixes. Anything I can do about the gap in text caused by a photo, like the raw bingcha photo does to the following cooked section?

Bearsbearsbears 17:57, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

Hmm, not seeing the problem. The pictures & text look fine over here! Scott5834 18:08, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

It's probably just my browser or browser settings then. All the better! I have a proposed outline to reorganize the article and go into greater depth. I'm basing it loosely on the organization of wine. Should I post this to the discussion page before I reorganize, or should I just go for it?

1.Introduction and history
2.Classification of pu-erh

 a.by process

   i.Maocha

   ii.Raw

   iii.Cooked

 b.by shape

 c.by region

   i.Yunnan

     1.Tea mountains

     2.Other Yunnan regions

   ii.Other regions (Guangdong, Hunan, Burma, Vietnam)

 d.by cultivation (wild, wild arbor, plantation)

 e.by grade (list grades)

 f.by season  (spring, fall, summer, winter)

3.Tea factories (list some factories, address reputation, smaller producers)

 a.Recipe number system

4.Packaging anatomy (diagram of tong, wrapping, nei piao, nei fei)
5.Medical claims (TCM and recent claims of weight loss (sources?))
6.Preparing pu-erh tea
7.References
8.External links

Thanks again, Bearsbearsbears 18:46, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

I say go for it, and then post on the talk page what you've done. The changes look great, would incorporate the existing article, and make it easier to read.

Scott5834 18:58, 26 September 2006 (UTC)

List of cocktails

Thanks for the alphabetizing in Other cocktails. I think I have edited and re-edited that page so many times that I cannot even see straight anymore. It probably took me 30 seconds to even figure out what you did and why. 8^} That's why I decided to take a break from anymore major editing for a while. I really appreciate people who chip in and make the entire project better, and make my life easier in the process. :-) --Willscrlt 01:48, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

Assam tea

You removed two external links from Assam tea as spam. The links were inserted for information on Assam Tea, especially on Assam Tea Estates. The sites do not sell tea, but contain information for brokers, not consumers. The critical information from these sites is the gradation of Tea Estates. So would you consider reinserting the links? Thanks Chaipau 20:14, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Done. Sorry about that; it seems I got a little overzealous with the external link spam policing! The tea pages get polluted w/ store links far too often.Scott5834 20:44, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

Thanks! No harm done. I agree with the spam policies and I appreciate your efforts. Chaipau 23:55, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

You removed several links from several sites on your self righteous spam campaign. I contributed heavily to many articles and we have not spammed in the 17 years of our online existence. Need to know why you determined it as spam and took it upon yourself to remove? When someone contributes their hard earned time to a project for no monetary or publicist gain, you need to be careful in where you tread and what you feel YOU can and cannot remove. You are not Misplaced Pages and while there are psma links they seem to be placed by YOU, not orginal authors.

Since you didn't sign, didn't say who you represent, or even which article you're talking about, it's fairly difficult for me to respond. If you've contributed so much to Misplaced Pages, please sign in and read the guidelines.Scott5834 00:46, 30 March 2007 (UTC)

Zecco

Scott: please explain why you deleted my contribution zecco.com, a link to a number of other pages, including online brokerage pages as well as Morten Lund. I hope you noticed I had contested its speedy deletion. It is not in the spirit of the Misplaced Pages community to delete pages without discussion. Thx. Kercar 22:09, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Regarding Zecco, the article was deleted by somebody many months ago. Recently, you reinstated the page. My involvement was adding a speedy deletion tag to the second incarnation of the article. According to an administrator, the first time Zecco was deleted it didn't go through the full deletion process so the tag was removed. Someone else (I think an administrator) added another speedy deletion tag. You added a "hangon" tag. This was ignored and the administrator (the only people who can delete pages) removed the page. Scott5834 21:43, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Scott, thanks for the response, but I still don't understand why the administrator removed the page. Kercar 05:03, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Pu-erh

Are you basing the word's popularity on a google search? I was changing it based on the pun lineage, though in each version of Dragon Ball media it is spelled differently: Manga spelling →Pu'ar, Canadian dub/taken from FUNi spelt it →Pwar, Most English dubs →Puar, and Steve "Daimao" Simmons, who translated the Japanese Dragon Ball subtitles to English, used Pu-erh. Also how come Pu-erh tea isn't moved to Pu-erh like Oolong tea is redirected at Oolong? ~I'm anonymous

Per the naming conventions:

When choosing a name for a page ask yourself: What word would the average user of the Misplaced Pages put into the search engine

So yes, a google search is a good place to judge popularity. Pu-erh tea probably should move to Pu-erh. Scott5834 16:09, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

Would you do the honour of requesting it at WP:RM and use Oolong tea → Oolong as a precedence? ~I'm anonymous

I requested it. Hopefully things turn out the way desired. ~I'm anonymous

Sourced material

I was removing material that was unsourced and clearly vandalism. Even if it was true material, it would be out of place. I was cleaning the article up by removing false absurd statements. I am not going to remove any of it, but I ask you to remove the same comments I removed since they were nothing more than vandalism. 75.3.12.81 06:24, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Alternative viewspoints need to be sourced? But false statements to negatively portray the organization don't need any source or basis in truth? 75.3.12.81 06:32, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

The problem is the article often has people blanking the page and removing statements they disagree with little or no explanation. The article desparately needs less contentious information about the movement. I've added a section about charities in the Legion of Christ article. I'll take a look at your statements and see if they need to be removed, but serisouly consider /adding/ to the page rather than just removing. Thanks! Scott5834 14:31, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Hand Hygiene

This article is presenting facts not teaching. If you look very carefully at all of the statements and references, you will find the article presents facts (truths) and debunks myths or misinformation. Debunking myths and misinformation is just as important as presenting the facts. The problem with hand hygiene is that "conventonal wisdom" (marketing misinformation) has caused so much confusion that the general public does not know what is true and what is not true. They deserve to know the truth.--JSHibbard 20:46, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

== Exetel ==

In July you agreed to a number of edits that you have changed. To agree and then sneak in 2 1/2 months later to implement your changes is extremely transparent and doesn't fool anybody. --AussieLegend 19:42, 19 September 2007 (UTC)