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Imette St. Guillen

I've noticed that you've been contributing to the Imette St. Guillen article and other related articles and I thought that I would point you to the welcome page since you are a new user. The reason I point this out is that it will greatly help you to understand wikipedia. Another great resource for understand how wikipedia looks is the Manual of Style. Anyway I hope this helps. --ImmortalGoddezz 20:36, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

I understand where you're coming from. The reason why I messaged you is to give you the manual of style and the welcome links, since your editing style deviates a bit from is practiced around here (eg. bolding of texts and referencing). Regarding Misplaced Pages, it is supposed to be neutral and factual; non-truths and "Political Correctness" have nothing to do with it, so I hope that eases your mind. If it can be sourced and verified (using reliable sources) then it can go into an article. I have no connection to the case, to the bar, or to the family who owns the bar or anything to do with Imette St. Guillen but I do edit wikipedia. I applaud the substantial amount of information that you've added to the article but it makes the article easier to read and looks better if you follow a standard format, which is why I suggested those links. In any case I do hope to get the article into shape, finishing the references up, within the next day or so but in the meantime reading those links and just browsing wikipedia (especially featured articles) will give you a general idea of how an article is supposed to look. Additionally I would consider looking over the username policy since people might get upset over the name that you've chosen. Anyway I hope all of this clears things up and helps you with editing. --ImmortalGoddezz 21:25, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Create your own test page

Click this User:MurderWatcher1/Chanel Petro Nixon and you can have your very own test page to work on until the article is ready. pw 20:53, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

Ramona/Romona Moore

Thank you for your message. However, are you quite sure about the spelling? I changed it based on (1) the greater number of hits for "Romona" over "Ramona" in a Google search, and (2) the spelling at the Hunter College site (http://www.googlesyndicatedsearch.com/u/hunter?hl=en&lr=&ie=ISO-8859-1&q=romona+moore).

I based the spelling upon a number of newspaper articles that I have read. Your links, however, have me thinking! I'll do more research when I can--MurderWatcher1 15:16, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

Under construction

I noticed that you added both the underconstruction tag and inuse tag to Imette St. Guillen. I've also noticed that you've added the exact same tags to some of the other articles you edit.

I'm not sure if you've noticed what the tags themselves say. The underconstruction tag is if you're editing intensely over a few days. The inuse tag is if you mean to edit it intensely for a few hours. Either of them are not meant to stay on a page for more than a few days or so, particularly not the inuse tag. If you look on the underconstruction tag it specifically states "If this article has not been edited in several days please remove this template." Please read over the pages for the templates: Template:Inuse and Template talk:Underconstruction they explain how the tags should be used.

I do not think these tags are appropriate for any of the articles that you've added them to. Why? You haven't been intensely editing them. You place them on the page and then you might not edit the same article for three days. This means that somebody who wants to work on the article sees this sign that says 'in use' and doesn't edit. You've left both of the tags on one of the articles, Chanel Petro-Nixon for nearly a month. They need to go they're not being appropriately used. I've noticed today that you've made a lot of edits to Imette St. Guillen's article, It would have been appropriate to use the {{inuse}} tag at the beginning of your edits, not using both inuse and underconstruction on the article. I haven't seen you edit the article since putting both of those tags on. I'm going remove the tags from the articles that you've added them to. When you start to edit a particular article again, then you can feel free to insert a tag for the period that you're editing, but please remove it when you're done.

Also remember every time you edit an article you don't need to tell everybody you're editing it. The tags are for nitty-gritty 'I'm going to take a few hours/day to fix this up' not 'oh I'm working on it for a few months.' Anyway I hope this helps you with your editing. --ImmortalGoddezz 23:14, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

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Re: POV

Most of the POV is from the articles in the section 'one year and tributes' they're nice and all but they add pretty much nothing to the article that couldn't be summed up in a paragraph. I've taken a lot of that out, summarized, and referenced it. You really should not quote a whole article on a wikipedia page, even if you have the proper citations for it. Quoting small sections is fine, the whole thing not so much because you're entering murky law areas about ownership and intellectual property of the article blah blah blah. I've also removed a lot of the links from the page because most of them have been integrated into the article itself or the links are extremely similar and bring no new information to the article.

The section headers should be as brief as possible so I've tried to whittle those down. Also info doesn't all need to be under it's own section header, if that makes sense. For example the funeral section just had a couple of sentences, which can easily be put into the section above it. Before I forget.. you cited her name as being 'Saint Guillen' and provided a blog link. Blogs are not reliable sources and generally should not be used WP:RS has a lot of 'what is good what is bad'. As for the 'I also want to add a section or sub-section in the AFTERMATH part about Imette's mother's grief and how they spent the day in Florida before her murder.' I'm not sure how her mother's grief belongs in an encyclopedia. I know that seems harsh but it's true. I've mentioned in the legacy -> personal impact section that her family might be starting up a foundation in her name which would be an appropriate place to add the things that the family is doing that is really notable.. whereas grief or description of her last day would be more suitable for a memorial page, which this is not. Anyway I hope it helps/answers questions.. if I didn't hit everything I apologize as i'm kind of scatterbrained at the moment. --ImmortalGoddezz 19:37, 10 August 2007 (UTC)

In that case it's still not a good idea to have the full article in the page. Read over this: Misplaced Pages:Citing sources#What to do when a reference link "goes dead". --ImmortalGoddezz 19:32, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

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The comment you made has been moved, by me, to Talk:Imette St. Guillen rather than Talk:Nightlife legislation since there is no article for the latter. There's no reason to insert the {{hangon}} tag on St. Guillen page. --ImmortalGoddezz 22:26, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

Images and other

I completely read over your question about images before, I apologize. This Misplaced Pages:Images is a pretty good guide to how to 'format' the images on here once you get it uploaded. Misplaced Pages:Extended image syntax that has a lot more detail to it and shows you a lot more options that can be used when formatting images. Additionally this is a very good guide to the templates on wiki, Misplaced Pages:Template messages.

Also you mentioned that you felt that people just skimming through St. Guillen's page would just read over the Nightlife legislation stuff. I personally feel that it deserves a separate page because you've included not just St. Guillen in the description but others that have had an impact on it as well. Since not only has St. Guillen had an impact on the nightlife legislation then it's not really fair to have it all on her page, it doesn't really belong on the page anyway since you're dealing about a law that has been created because of her. By that I mean she might have been the factor that caused the law to be created but the law stands on its own now and many other variables can affect it. For example it's like George Bush signing in a law. He signed it so it's there but there are other factors that influence it and help it grow and evolve. So that law might merit a mention on his wikipedia page but the law itself will be on another page so it can get more detailed. When the information is moved to another page it creates the opportunity for more information to be added about those various laws not just in relation to St. Guillen, Moore, or Petro-Nixon. Anyway I hope this makes sense. I'm not going to move anything just yet but thought I'd open up the topic for discussion. --ImmortalGoddezz 13:33, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

Re

1. Do Not make personal threats against any other user on wikipedia. That will get you banned.
2. Warn the user using templates that can be found here Misplaced Pages:Template messages/User talk namespace
3. I cannot block anybody. Only administrators can do that. The only way a user can be blocked is if they've been warned THREE times and then they continue to vandalize after that. If after that time nobody has blocked the IP then report it here Misplaced Pages:Administrator intervention against vandalism

--ImmortalGoddezz 21:08, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Your addition of Perspective Correction

Your insertion: "Perspective correction lenses are available in the 35mm and medium formats to correct this distortion with film cameras, and it can also be corrected after the fact with photo software when using digital cameras." I would prefer the phrase "perspective control" (yes, I know you're using a Wiki link) and I think this paragraph will need further clarification as, only three manufacturers made Tilt and Shift lenses for their 35mm cameras: Nikon with it's 28mm PC Nikkor, the 85mm Tilt and Shift Nikon lens, and Canon with its desirable 24mm Tilt and Shift lens. Olympus did a tilt and shift lens for their OM series cameras, a 24mm I believe, but that system is now discontinued. As for using correction using photo software well, I know of PhotoShop's capabilities, but a professional would rather make corrections in the field, then further edit his image either in a darkroom or using image editing software after the 35mm image has been scanned. There was a tilt and shift lens that was adapted for 35mm SLR's but I forget who made this lens. The only lens being 'pushed' for perspective control these days is the "lens baby" optics, and unfortunately, these lenses are not that sharp for architectural photography as a dedicated tilt & shift lens would be.--MurderWatcher1 16:00, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Only three manufacturers?

Nikon made 35mm PCs in three varieties and 28mm in two; Minolta made a 35mm PC, Schneider made 35mm PCs under its name and branded as Leica's; Olympus made both 24mm and 35mm PCs (shift only); Pentax made a 28mm PC; Canon also made a 35mm TS lens and a 24mm TS. I may have forgotten one or two others. And there were several medium-format shift lenses.

Call it "control" rather than "correction" if you wish. Matters not to me. Motorrad-67 16:12, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

P.S. Why include a discussion of view cameras in the SLR page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Motorrad-67 (talk • contribs) 16:15, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Because when I looked at the 'Talk' pages, it appeared that a number of people didn't understand the construction of the SLR and how it relates to other camera designs. Also, I think this Wiki reference should be added to that section: Scheimpflug principle - seeing as we're mentioning view cameras. Also, a view camera is giving you a real-world image, albeit upside down, but a real-world image somewhat like an SLR camera.

I have photos of the Minolta and Pentax lenses somewhere, but haven't dug them up and posted them because I think they are NGI. Motorrad-67 16:29, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

What you did show is good and perhaps should be included on discussion of perspective control with 35mm SLR cameras. Also, speaking of perspective, when Rollei came out with their first 2 1/4" SLR in 1966, the SL-66, it did have limited perspective control; the bellows could tilt up and down - Scheimpflug principle again! The bellows could also extend out for more than 1:1 magnification ratio and the lenses were able to actually reverse without adapters! Maybe check out Rollei's website because I don't know if I'll have time to input that today. Nevertheless, I love SLR's!--MurderWatcher1 17:34, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

St. Guillen again

I'm not sure why you keep messaging me about this situation, honestly, since it is between you and him and has nothing to do with me. I have also told you once before I cannot ban him since I'm NOT an administrator. Unless he's been warned three times or the situation is serious enough to be brought up before the Administrators notice board there's little you can do besides insult each other. I might also point out that it seems like the objective of the other person seems to be to get a rise out of you, which is working. My suggestion would be to ignore him and just go about editing. --ImmortalGoddezz 23:14, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Nikon D200 Image on the Single Lens Reflex Page

Motorrad-67, I really think you should delete that image of the Nikon D200 from the Single Lens Reflex page as, it is a digital SLR, not a film SLR, so it's use is not appropriate for that page. I'd rather you do it as, you've made some good contributions here.--MurderWatcher1 21:58, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

I removed it. However, this article is not just about film SLRs, it's about SLRs in general. Therefore, my DSLR photo was appropriate. If you wish to restore it, please go ahead and do so. Motorrad-67 00:56, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

My recent edits

I've recently removed the addresses from the St. Guillen article. You might want to read over what Misplaced Pages is not. I've removed those particular addresses because wikipedia is not a directory (or the yellow pages) and it is not particularly important for those addresses to be in the article. I might also add in regards to headers, keep it simple. For example previously in the article you had Darryl Littlejohn -- one of the bouncers at The Falls it's easier to read a header as Darryl Littlejohn.. if they want to know who he is they'll read about it in the article. Anyway hope this helps. --ImmortalGoddezz 00:09, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

The bars addresses aren't even in the article in the first place so it's irrelevant to add them in. Saying that 'st. guillen walked a few blocks west to another bar' is sufficient for the article. In my opinion it's not necessary at all to have the specific addresses in. Misplaced Pages is not the yellowpages, a map, or a directory. --ImmortalGoddezz 00:35, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

All right, let me clarify. I didn't notice the difference between the address because they're not mentioned in the article. The address for either bar is not mentioned in the article since wikipedia is not the yellow pages, a travel guide, or a guidebook, or a collection of indiscriminate information etc. There is no reason to add it in because it adds nothing useful to the article that isn't already in there. Adding that information in is not necessary and creates confusion. It's not your job to add stuff in there that you think other people might find interesting. You write a neutral point of view article that educates. If you are so involved in this and want to make a memorial site or a travel guide that revolves around her then wikipedia is not the place to do it. If that's what you want to create then I would suggest that you look into creating a wikia for your own purposes. As for the post above my answer is this: the tamiflu references was probably a spam bot that targeted your guestbook, be that as it may it's not my concern. Whatever problem you have with other people is your problem, not mine. As for the image, right now the person who uploaded it has claimed the copyright of the image. Since you do not own the image on the website then no it should not be added in. Only images that can be considered fair use or have been released under a copyright license should be added. Also since we already have an image that has been released any 'fair use' photo that is added will most likely be deleted. --ImmortalGoddezz 22:05, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

Boitumelo McCallum

I didn't read over the article in depth because my head is in another project right now but looking it over here are a few things to keep in mind:

1. Headers shouldn't have links in them.
2. You don't have to type (see: strangling) when you can type ] and it points to strangling while saying strangulation.
3. Simple, shorter headers = better
4. Try to stay away from weasel words (an example would be 'the jealous boyfriend') He might have been jealous but let somebody else say that directly for you, use a quote from an article saying that etc, or else it sounds like you're writing a POV article.
5. I'd try to stay away from block quotes unless you're quoting something that's more than 3-ish sentences in length. If you're going to quote something shorter than that use quotation marks "and make sure to have a citation immediately after" the quote or at the end of the sentence.

These are the first things that pop into my mind, other than that it looks good and you're definitely improving as a wikipedia editor. If you want me to help you edit the article and really dig into the nitty gritty of it let me know and I can probably do some more editing tomorrow or so. --ImmortalGoddezz 20:51, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

Go right ahead and edit it! If you can find a free image of her that would be great! It would be good if some of her family 'weighed-in' on this page (I hope they like it). BTW, are there any "software page counters" in Misplaced Pages? By that I mean how many people have looked at the page. FYI, I won't be online again until Monday so enjoy yourself tomorrow. See the Jodie Foster flick "The Brave One" if you can. Jodie Rocks!--MurderWatcher1 20:57, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Boitumelo McCallum

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I'm voting to keep this page.--MurderWatcher1 21:24, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Reply

It doesn't matter. Misplaced Pages needs to be sourced, not infered or implied. --ImmortalGoddezz 23:19, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

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History of SLR Chronology bibliography is on the way

Hi, MurderWatcher1. This is Paul1513. I'm just letting you know that I am working on the SLR Chronology bibliography for you. It's turning out to be much longer than the expected forty to fifty items, and I'm a very slow typist. Here's a preview for you. I hope it'll tide you over until the whole thing is properly done.

I'm glad to hear you like old photography magazines too. The principle primary (contemporary) sources I used were various issues of Modern Photography (ceased publication in 1989) and Popular Photography magazines (after 1989). I have some issues going back to the 1970s and am trying to obtain more articles from copying services at my library. Especially helpful were their December issue annual "Top Cameras" round-ups. They are excellent snapshots of the state-of-the-art in camera technology each year. I was very upset when Pop Photo discontinued the feature in 2003. I wrote a letter-to-the-editor asking them to restore it, but got no response.

Also very helpful were many articles by long time columnists Herbert Keppler and Jason Schneider. (I saw your comment on Keppler's November Pop Photo column, but I haven't seen it yet; my subscription issue won't arrive until the middle of the month. It sounds like an interesting new twist on the legendary tale of Duncan's "discovery" of Nikons and Nikkors during the Korean War.) I'm impressed that Keppler has maintained his enthusiasm for 57 years and sad that Schneider recently retired after 35 years. Even the advertisements were useful: it's fascinating to understand how a company desires the consumer to view it (There's a Leica ad bragging that they would sell only 12,000 M5s in the US in 1972; implying that they would all be bought by demanding professionals and that YOU buy one or be considered both cheap AND not a serious photographer.), although I am not citing any of them.

Of very specific use was the Polaroid TIME cover article on June 26, 1972. Most people have totally forgotten that Polaroid was a leader in what I call "the first tech revolution," of the late 1960s and early 1970s, along with AT&T (satellite communications), Boeing (the 747), Du Pont (plastics), IBM (the 360 mainframe computer) and Xerox (you-know-what), etc.

Important secondary (historical) sources were some books: The Register of 35mm Single Lens Reflex Cameras: From 1936 to the Present. Second Edition, by Rudolph Lea (1993); Hansen’s Complete Illustrated Guide to Cameras; Volumes 1 and 2, by William P. Hansen (2003); and Collecting and Using Classic SLRs, by Ivor Matanle (1997). The Register is an attempt to catalogue every 35 mm SLR ever made (to 1993). It is not 100% complete, but still a valiant effort. Hansen's Complete is not complete either; apparently it isn't finished. However, since Hansen is a co-founder of KEH, the largest used camera dealer in the world, I think it's safe to assume that he knows his inventory. Classic SLRs is good, because it tells a narrative from Sutton onto around 1980. Considering how we came into contact, of note is the chapter "How the West was lost." It chronicles the fumbling German death-spiral into irrelevance.

Of tertiary (double checking or background info) importance were several other books: the Canon, Minolta, Nikon, Olympus and Pentax Classic Cameras Magic Lantern Guides among them. Some Internet sites, such as the history pages of of surviving SLR makers, as well as ones created by dedicated fans of non-survivers were helpful too.

Useful for background and context were The Focal Encyclopedia of Photography, 3rd ed. (1993) and ICP Encyclopedia of Photography (1984). They have not been updated for decades, but they are still standard reference works.

A proper bibliography with complete publication data is on the way. Paul1513 20:16, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

P.S. Do you know what was the first SLR with a flash hot shoe? I know the first hot shoe camera of any kind came out in 1938 (the Univex Mercury, half frame 35 mm). I also know that the ISO hot shoe became a 35 mm SLR standard feature around 1973; that most 1960s 35 mm SLRs used screw-on accessory shoes to mount flashes but a PC socket to sync them; that the Nikon F had a non-ISO hot shoe in 1959; and that many post WW2 non-SLRs had a Leica shoe with electrical contact (the present day ISO hot shoe). This is where I lose the trail. I've made zero progress for six months. The humble hot shoe is so ubiquitous today that no one gives it a second thought anymore. This precisely why I think it deserves to be in the Chronology. You can reach me on my Talk page. (I haven't written a Wikpedia user page, but there is a Talk page for Paul1513.) Paul1513 20:16, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Paul1513. I wish that I could remember the first SLR with a hot shoe was. I know that the hot shoe became a 'standard' (more or less because they're all dedicated hot shoe's now) maybe during the late 60's or 70's. I can't, however, remember which SLR it was. Offhand, I'd say maybe it was one of the early Canon Reflexes but I'm just not certain right now.

My copies of Popular Photography and Modern Photography go back in some cases to the 1950's. The problem is getting to those magazines and hoping that where I had stored them didn't get them damaged in any way. Now, you had mentioned the "Top Camera Roundups". What was even better than these yearly articles was the Modern Photography Guide to Used Cameras, which was usually contained in their December issues up to, I think, 1964. Then they stopped printing that information, except for the 1968 issues (again, this is a guess). The guide would be an insert, printed on rough-bond paper, same size as the magazine, and it would contain a picture of the camera, the specifications, and, most important -- the serial number range! I've been considering just getting these issues, making a PDF of those pages and putting this on the Misplaced Pages website. I don't know, however, if this material is copyrighted.

As for the authors that you had mentioned above, yes, I heartily agree. Herbert Keppler and Jason Schneider were among the most knowledgeable writers in the photograpy field. You could also add Norman Rothschild, Cora Wright Kennedy, John Wolbarst (correct spelling of his name? also, he wrote a column in Modern Photography titled "Pictures in a Moment"). As I live in New York City, I was tempted to let Mr. Keppler know about these Misplaced Pages pages and perhaps he could add his considerable acumen to the facts, and especially the disputable facts presented on these photography pages. I have some issues with these Misplaced Pages references as far as grammar, getting and inputting references (I'm starting to learn cite refs but they're hard), and other matters. You may have read some of my responses on the photography pages that I have added discussions to, etc., so you probably have an idea of where I'm coming from.

You had mentioned "Polaroid" above. The Polaroid Automatic 100 was my first camera (not counting the family's Argus Twin Lens Reflex which I still have). I "pushed" that camera to its limits and won 2nd prize in a Macy's/Polaroid's Photo contest many years ago. While I have sold that camera, I DO have a Polaroid 180, which needs some repairs re: the shutter speeds and the diaphragm blades. I'm not getting rid of it however! It's a fine instrument! Try to find a manual Polaroid -- ANY Manual Polaroid! I once saw a Polaroid 120 (it's like a Polaroid 110B roll-film Polaroid) in a pawn shop. This camera was produced in Japan, not the U.S. At the time, I just didn't care for the price, which was $95. I wish now, however, that I had purchased it! It had a faster lens (a 127mm f/4.5 I believe), either a copal or seikosha shutter with speeds to 1/500 (the 110B only went to 1/400) and, unlike the 110B the diaphragm blades stopped down to f/90, unlike the 110B which used the lens cap to create that aperture. I have all of the accessories for the 180 camera, and I've also constructed a Matte Box out of an old 2 1/4" x 3 1/4" film holder, and this screws into the front lens filter threads.

Right now, unfortunately, if you check the previous message posted on my User page, then you will learn that some of the Misplaced Pages staff (Administrators I assume) are considering deleting some other non-photography pages that I have created and maintained. When you look at those pages, then you will learn that I became involved in some very serious matters. I left a message with the Administrators that I would consider leaving Misplaced Pages as an editor if these pages were deleted. The pages dealing with these murdered women are just too important to me, especially the Imette St. Guillen page. I was one of the people who protested that bar. By all rights, this guy should be out of business, period!

So, I sadly inform you that you may end up being one of the the only people who edit these photography pages, along with User:DickLyon and maybe a few others. Dick has shown that he has considerable knowledge of photography, etc. and I respect his and your input on these pages. I love photography! However, the issue with these murdered women puts all of these material 'loves' of cameras, and the appreciation of the Art of Photography into a more-important perspective, as you will learn if you study my user page in detail.

I want to thank you for your message as, you did pick my spirits up a bit. Tonight however, I may be talking to Imette St. Guillen's mother and I hope that, if she returns my phone call and we discuss Imette's Misplaced Pages reference, that she'll be understanding. She may not know about this reference or may not even want to talk to me about this. In the past, I've tried not to contact her family because I understand grief all too well. So, if this is my last post, then farewell. It was good discussing photography with you, and please give my regards to DickLyon.--MurderWatcher1 21:58, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

SLR Chronology bibliography is complete

Hi, MurderWatcher1. This is Paul1513 again. This is to let you know that I have completed the SLR Chronology bibliography for you and that I am going to try to upload a PDF copy to your Talk page as soon as I finish this note. This may take a while, because I've never uploaded a PDF before.

You're absolutely right; it would be great if some of the old Modern Photography stuff could be added to Misplaced Pages. However, you can be sure that they're still under copyright. (Pre-1978 American "work-for-hire" copyrights are generally 75 years; 1978 and on, 95 years.) The real question is: Who OWNS the copyright today? Since Modern went under, there have been many media company sales and resales - the present copyright holder would be hell to uncover and ask permission. In fact, the current owner might not even know that it owns Modern's copyrights. "Orphaned" copyrights are a major unresolved "fair use" issue in the information age.

Speaking of first cameras: mine was a simple Vivitar 110 point-and-shoot. My parents gave it to me for getting straight A's in the 5th grade. It was, of course, a bad camera, but it opened up a world of possibilities. From the Vivitar, I eventually learned about the existence of the Pentax Auto 110 SLR. It was then one step to 35 mm SLRs and I got a Nikon FE2 in 1983. The FE2 is also the reason why the bulk of my Modern Photography magazine citations begin around 1983.

I'm sorry to hear about your disputes with the Admins over your non-photography Wkipedia entries. It would be unfortunate if you felt compelled to end your Misplaced Pages activities over them. Perhaps you could start a blog or create a MySpace or Facebook page to air these issues without worrying about what the Admins want. However, I will respect whatever your decision is, as I fully understand that the most sophisticated machine is nothing next to a human life.

You can reach me on my Talk page. Thanks Muchly Paul1513 18:01, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Your recent edits

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The DSLR Page

On the Digital Single Lens Reflex Page, your comment: "Some newer DSLR models feature live preview, allowing the image to be seen on the LCD display, although with certain limitations and with the optical viewfinder disabled." is merely a rewording of the text in the next section where live preview is introduced and discussed. User:MurderWatcher1 at 12:56 p.m. NYC Time (for some reason my Wiki formatting bar doesn't work).

Go ahead and remove it. I'm open to criticism and modifications - or even revert the whole thing if you feel strongly about it. We are supposed to try to reach consensus (ah, the idealism :-) --RenniePet 17:03, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

You put in some good stuff! I need to read and think about it, that's all :) User:MurderWatcher1 and again this is a manual signature and time input of 1:05 p.m.

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