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Zach, here is my advise which you are free to throw out of the window. For now, have a glass to the right. Maybe have a second one if you feel like it. Then take a one week break. Or a two-week break. After that, allow the Zeus to keep your adminship to himself or give it to one of his cronies. Adminship is so worthless compared to the great content that we are all putting here. I wonder whether the god can write any articles like we do. Last time, it was an article about a cafeteria or something were the god once ate. This is a perfect chance to return full-time to the only thing that make Misplaced Pages worthy. But take a break first and take no part in the fest that is now unwinding. --] 00:41, 29 October 2007 (UTC) |
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Mariyinsky palace
That was a nice loophole you found, mate :). Now of course no objection to deleting Image:Mariyinsky_Jan23_2005_madl.jpg. Cheers, --Irpen 00:24, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
- I'll let the bots take care of it. User:Zscout370 00:35, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
- Pity though, I lost 15 minutes to write a rationale. But no worries. --Irpen 00:44, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
re Tasco 0
Yes, it was. Sarah 05:54, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
- I sent you an email. User:Zscout370 05:56, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
Belarus
File:Interlingual Barnstar.png | The Geography Barnstar | |
You thoroughly deserve this barnstar for your fine and determined work on the Belarus article. --ROGER DAVIES 10:09, 22 October 2007 (UTC) |
Trouble stirring
Can you please have a look at this - where User:Jaakobou has re-opened a closed AN in order to accuse me of sock-puppetry - and it's difficult to see how this could be in good-faith, there is nothing whatsoever to link me to that anonymous IP. Jaakobou has made at least one other reckless accusation of sock-puppetry against an editor in good standing (and then thrown my name into their cases as well for ... what, in order to fling the mud as far as possible?). And this comes less than 2 weeks after he was warned and apologised for "Forum Shopping". This behaviour is particularily devious because the original discussions is meant to be on the Admin noticeboard where lots of people see it - for no obvious reason, mine was hived off to a hidden page where hardly anyone is still watching it. The case against me looked like a "Star Chamber" while it was in the open (perhaps that's why people with respect for the project wanted it bundled out of sight). It's an even more sinister process now it's "hidden". PR 13:47, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
- I'll try, but my area of San Diego is on fire, so I will let other admins handle it. User:Zscout370 14:21, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
- Please put the safety of you and yours ahead of any concerns of mine! PR 07:47, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
Your userspace note
Your edit today to your userpage showed up on my watchlist. I am sure that all of us join in hoping that you come out of this situation safely and rapidly. In the unlikely thing that there is anything more I can do besides type words like these, please let me know. Newyorkbrad 00:45, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
- Ditto. --Irpen 02:27, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
- Good luck out there. HG | Talk 04:24, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
- It's probably the wrath of the Lord for agreeing to be my mentor - which function has turned round and bitten in the arse everyone else who tried it. I was going to request you look at this and assure me I wasn't soap-boxing, but it seems a teensy-weensy bit trivial under the circumstances. Take care - don't eat yellow snow. PR 20:57, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
- Good luck out there. HG | Talk 04:24, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
New messages :)
Take care with the fire, and I wish you the best of luck :) Oh, and, I figured I'd try this template, so...
Hello, Zscout370. You have new messages at Arknascar44's talk page.You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.
It's a 'butte :) Cheers, and again, good luck out there, ( arky ) 23:30, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
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- I went ahead and deleted the image. User:Zscout370 18:27, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
Vladimir Putin
Thanks for trying to keep rationality in that article. However, next time you should be a bit bolder. The guy you were reverting actually did a lot of damage to that article. I hesitate to call it vandalism; but part of it definitely looked that way. Apart from what you noted, he put back the silly "east amusing" text about Putin (a Web translation German-English), put back the old version of the Georgian rumour, put back the gay icon thing and deleted several icons asking for a reference. And he put in a copyvio Youtube video. And a wiki link to the closed Siberian wiki. And I am sure there is more that people will have to clean up later - I would have reverted the whole kaboodle. Keep up the good work. --Paul Pieniezny 08:18, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- I reverted once earlier to a previous version and he, without discussion, reverted me. Know about the subject of the article, I tried to see what "what is it" that is causing him to do this. So I took out what I could take out, but now since you explained everything, I will be more bold. User:Zscout370 08:43, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
- His first edit was on a much older version. That explains why the protection label got in. I have had a look at his talk page: it is not the first time he did this, even including the protection label. The problem is that some of his changes are reasonable, he may not even notice himself that he is in fact vandalizing (the Siberian thing is actually not his fault, I see now), so people in the end refrain from reverting him. Note that he already got blocked for edit warring at Vladimir Putin. Keep up the good work.--Paul Pieniezny 08:52, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
Request
I would respectfully request that you revert this action as I do not believe there was any urgent need to override or consensus to do so. With all regards, Mercury 00:09, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
- I second that, the consensus so far at AN/I is that the block is valid. Plus, I don't think it's a great idea reversing Jimbo's actions. Ryan Postlethwaite 00:10, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
No. The blockable offense occurred in April, which was he blocked for anyways. I stand behind the unblock. User:Zscout370 00:12, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
- How do you override WP:BAN#Decision_to_ban? Mercury 00:14, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
- WP:IAR if you want the short form. I do see he has the right to ban, but I do not see anywhere that his ban is absolute and can never be reversed. User:Zscout370 00:23, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
- I can't argue with IAR... thank you for being responsive. Regards, Mercury 00:37, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
- No problem. IAR isn't the full reason; I gave it at the Noticeboard. I also been trying to dig out examples of Jimbo blocks that were reversed; I know he founded the place, but he kept on saying that his actions are not immune from questions or reversring. I waited for the questioning, which I found some. After doing research, I decided an unblock until Monday. Then, if yall want to set it back up again, I have no problem. I just want a formal discussion, not a "Oh, I blocked someone, I am off on a jet plane." User:Zscout370 00:55, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
- I can't argue with IAR... thank you for being responsive. Regards, Mercury 00:37, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
- WP:IAR if you want the short form. I do see he has the right to ban, but I do not see anywhere that his ban is absolute and can never be reversed. User:Zscout370 00:23, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Miltopia seems to remain unblocked, I wonder if you might restore and unprotect his userpage? It currently still says that he is a banned user. Thanks, Privatemusings 00:58, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
I also request that you revert your action here. Jimbo doesn't do these things lightly. There's been a long pattern of disruptive behavior and previous blocks. See Misplaced Pages:Disruptive editing. Durova 01:01, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
- His userpage was unprotected by me and reverted before the block issue began. As I said before Durova, I do not wish to undo the block. If a new block is applied Monday, with more discussion, I will not undo it. I just hated the way this block was applied this time. User:Zscout370 01:06, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Put me down as another vote to reverse yourself. I'm all for banning net negative editors, but I'm not convinced that Miltopia is one, so I'm inclined to agree with your decision to unblock him. What I am convinced of, however, is that wheel-warring is bad, and that Jimbo (judging from precedent) is almost certainly going to desysop you when he gets home. You're a great admin, and it would be a loss for the project if that happened. Re-block Miltopia. It won't kill him to stay blocked until Monday, and maybe Jimbo won't desysop you. A Train 01:07, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
- I dealt with Jimbo with OTRS issues, I had Jimbo yell at me for doing those actions badly. If I lose the bit over this, then it happens. Jimbo is a reasonable person and he can and will be stern and fair when needed. I do expect something from Jimbo, just need to wait and see what happens. User:Zscout370 01:09, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
I'm restoring the block. Please leave it in place while discussion continues. Tom Harrison 01:11, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
- And I will. User:Zscout370 01:13, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
- This may be of interest Zscout370, WP:BLOCK#Unblocking. 1 != 2 17:49, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
- And this is what it reads "If the blocking administrator is not available, or if the administrators cannot come to an agreement, then a discussion at the administrators' noticeboard is recommended." User:Zscout370 18:37, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Request for arbitration
I am filing a request for arbitration which involves you. Please see Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration#Miltopia. John254 01:27, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
- not even a little bit premature. Viridae 01:37, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
- I believe it has been reverted. User:Zscout370 01:38, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
LOL
I just noticed you quoted me on your userpage. Do you remember what the context was? android79 02:06, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
- Userbox wars when Kelly Martin deleted a few and the community was split in half. User:Zscout370 02:07, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
WP:BOLD
You need praise for what you did, I think. It takes a lot of guts to stand up against the crowd for what you believe is right, but undoing a block by Jimbo himself takes a truly bold user. That's not something very many admin's will do, but your AGF is applaudable here. To unblock Miltopia, I mean. Mr. Carbunkle 09:23, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
- Thanks. AGF wasn't the main reason why I undid the block, IAR wasn't the full reason either. I just found it very, very strange that a block was applied on somewhat weak evidence (no real recent activity of harsh trollery) and then leaving on a jet-plane. The block, and the discussion itself, could have easily waited until he got back. User:Zscout370 15:18, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
- Hmm, cool. I dunno if a full site ban is in order or not - personally, I like some of his stuff (ASCII art "Diabeetus" is my userpage now) and I don't think he's a troll - but I thought it was pretty WP:BOLD to stand against consensus and Jimbo Wales himself, especially for an admin in good standing. I'd consider that a compliment. :) Mr. Carbunkle 20:53, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Then the true test comes Monday (about that ASCII art, I am not sure if that is ok or not, but that is a separate issue and it wasn't a factor in his block, I think). User:Zscout370 21:38, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Ribbon
Hi, Zach. Can you make a ribbon for this? Thanks, --Irpen 17:26, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Furry convention
My apologies for not leaving a note on your talk page stating that I had reviewed it. It was late last night. I see that several of you have already started (and finished, perhaps?) addressing the issue. Please advise if you would like me to re-review early, or wait the standard seven day period. I am at your service. (I trust you have come through the fire situation OK?) Mmoyer 18:00, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
Congratulations! GA achieved! Good job! Mmoyer 05:02, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Concerns
I am back now; anyways, some edits were brought up to my attention when I was dealing with the fires. First, trying to bring up past histories of users is not a good idea. No matter if it is a person you are currently debating with or not, that will just cause settled issues to be fought over again. Second, just because I am not here to enforce blocks or issue them doesn't mean anyone else cannot. All admins have my permission to block you if needed; all they need to do is just email me to tell me what happened. I am hope I am clear on that. User:Zscout370 07:43, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
- It's true enough I've reminded one editor that he's been found to have been harassing other editors (and two admins!) and warned to stop doing it. (It seems as if he's been doing it a lot since, on TalkPages, with laughable sock-puppet complaints, with "Forum Shopping" etc etc). I've never been warned for attempting to protect editors from harassment, however.
- If this behavior is really out of order, then please rush over and check this, where I could be guilty of doing something similar. The behavior I've identified there is less than a week old, however (or rather, was less than a week old when I brought it up). I trust the acupuncture and massage was to your liking. PR 18:08, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
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FYI
Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#My_desysop_of_Zscout370 - CHAIRBOY (☎) 19:09, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
Take it easy
Zach, here is my advise which you are free to throw out of the window. For now, have a glass to the right. Maybe have a second one if you feel like it. Then take a one week break. Or a two-week break. After that, allow the Zeus to keep your adminship to himself or give it to one of his cronies. Adminship is so worthless compared to the great content that we are all putting here. I wonder whether the god can write any articles like we do. Last time, it was an article about a cafeteria or something were the god once ate. This is a perfect chance to return full-time to the only thing that make Misplaced Pages worthy. But take a break first and take no part in the fest that is now unwinding. --Irpen 00:41, 29 October 2007 (UTC)