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it is known as DrakeCircus shopping centre because it is next to the Drake Circus area. Maybe i should publish an article titled "Plymouth is Silverstall" or "London is Spud-u-like". lol

" When that firm ceased trading in the UK the complex gradually became derelict."

err i am sure the silverstall would have something to say about this as i seem to remember that Drake Circus boomed once C&A moved out because they were replaced by a huge pound shop and Next clearance. picture of their shop in the old drake circus "Drake Circus is a Shopping Centre" ROTFLOAM - it is known as DrakeCircus shopping centre because it is next to the Drake Circus area. Maybe i should publish an article titled "Plymouth is Silverstall" or "London is Spud-u-like". In any event why is there an article on Drake circus shopping centre in the first place? why not have an article on very single shop in the UK - it seems ridiculous to include. 86.146.137.148 11:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)resident of Drake Circus

Perhaps the raised blood pressure has prevented you from seeing that there are two articles. This one is specifically named Drake Circus Shopping Centre which refers directly to the shopping centre and another one Drake Circus which refers directly to the area. To me that differentiates one from the other. I fail to see what the argument is. ---- WebHamster 11:40, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

"I fail to see what the argument is" so you think to call our university campus a shopping centre is accurate? The semantics are crucial as this artcile in its present form is equivalent to an artcile being titled "Stanford University is superdrug". I could not care less that you want to spam the encyclopedia with banal references to the shops you are so eager to publicise all i ask is that you do so without linking it to the University or Arts Centre area. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.146.137.148 (talk) 11:58, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Drake Circusis the only fully covered shopping centre in the South West. It creates and provides jobs for local people which generates income tax to support the students and their studies. Perhaps you should not bite the hand that feeds and remember that unlike the students we actually provide a service to the community. Our name was taken from the old shopping mall and it is what we are known by to the many thousands of happy returning customers. If you feel strongly about this issue then i suggest the university changes it campus name to something more appropiate such as 'Tax-drain' or 'loser-ville' Paulatdccom 12:19, 31 October 2007 (UTC)Paul Rich----

"drake circus is the only fully covered shopping centre in the south west"

mmm so the Armada Shopping Centre is really only a mirage and that large complex housing sainsburys et all is in fact a hologram?

"Perhaps you should not bite the hand"

Methinks with 27,000 students that is exactly what you have done. The socio-economic impact of plymouth university on the local economy is enormous. Every organization in every sector can benefit from tapping into the vast pool of knowledge and skills we have established here

Tax-drain

This derisory comment, like the article, is barely worthy of comment - suffice to say that with 4000 overseas students each generating an average fee income of £7,000 amounting to an estimated £28,000,000 per annum I think you will find it generates a little more than a few shops in your mall selling tacky Chinese imports, particulary when you factor in the remaining 23,000 students who it is estimated generate a further £115,000,000 into the local economy.

The Drake Circus area has deep historical and cultural links to the heritage of Plymouth and to state or imply that it is nothing more than a shopping mall emphasizes the ridicule previously directed at this mis-informed article.Plymouth City Museum & Art Gallery —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.158.128.63 (talk) 13:27, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

--Spudulike--

Before i leave i could not help but observe the content on above the stub reads

"Spudulike is a British fast food franchise operation, begun in Edinburgh in 1974.It provides fresh and healthy food at a price which satisifes every budget and taste. The Plymouth store can be found at the DrakeCircus Shopping Centre, Charlotte Street, Plymouth, PL1 1EA Its product is baked potatoes (potatoes being known as 'spuds' in colloquial British English), with a wide range of fillings. Today it has a nationwide presence."

I see previous attempts to edit out the above content were blocked or removed by the same administrators who exercise their powers over this article. Out of interest could you enlighten others as to how this content improves or adds to their academic furtherance aside from stating the correct geographical location of the mall i.e Charlotte Street, (Bretonside).

DrakeCircus shopping mall is no more notable than any other shop or shopping mall. It is blatant spam and used to promote a commercial interest. If you wish to state publicly that Drake Circus is purely a shopping mall and not an area or address of the university, museum and various other organizations, then you should be put on notice that they will institute legal proceedings against you for the considerable damage you are causing. For example every degree, be it Masters, Bachelor or Doctorate etc issued by the University refers on it to the registered address 'drake circus' If attempts to misrepresent that address by implying or expressing that it is purely a shopping centre then expect a class lawsuit against you and the editors and owners of Misplaced Pages in particular but not limited to, the lowering of the reputation of the University and the devaluation of the issued degrees. Moreover the businesses within that district have been associated with the name Drake Circus for over 160 years and to suggest otherwise is a blatant libel. You have been warned. Yiwentang 14:04, 30 October 2007 (UTC)yiwenTang

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I assume you will also be threatening the BBC, Plymouth City Council, ciaou.co.uk, Shopping-centre.co.uk, etc? Please read WP:LEGAL and follow the guidance there. --Smalljim 14:35, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Unlike previous versions of this article at no stage have the BBC or the plymouth city council etc ever stated that Drake Circus was 'solely and exclusively' a shopping mall. Moreover all of them have acknowledged the existance of the shops that have been located in Drake Circus for the past 160 years. To suggest that Drake Circus is purely a shopping mall is both misleading and wholly inaccurate. To include a page on a group of shops whilst randomly excluding other shops or interests in that area is a violation of the Competition Acts. Moreover as the BBC own the Armada Shopping Centre they are only too well aware of the need to take action against those who continue to falsify facts for the commercial advantage of the Drakecircus shopping mall. There is no justification whatsoever in keeping a page on a specific shopping mall other than to promote the commercial interests of that shopping mall. May i suggest this matter is resolved by the deletion of both this page and the Drake Circus shopping centre page otherwise its inclusion (leaving all legal issues to one side) will permit any shop, retailer or other commercial interest to continue to spam this encyclopedia. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.132.100.115 (talk) 14:51, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

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You may be right that the shopping mall is not notable. The correct procedure to follow if you think this is the case is at Misplaced Pages:Notability. Pending you doing this, I am reinstating the article. Further deletions of the content will probably be considered by others to constitute vandalism. --Smalljim 15:03, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

We are all right behind you Yiwen. This is a blatant example of how spammers can infiltrate the Wickopedia network by becoming administrators or editors. Doubtless the article will be amended and replaced with the continued propaganda for a dying shopping mall at the expense of its more prosperous and academic neighbors. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.148.157.81 (talk) 22:12, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

A few points:

1. Who are "we", IP?
2. Actually it's "Misplaced Pages".
3. It's not that easy for a spammer or anyone else to become an administrator, but you're welcome to give it a try. Meanwhile, spammers do indeed become editors. Indeed, all sorts of people do: the educated, the intelligent, the tired and emotional, the grossly immature, the deranged. (What else is new?)
4. In its present state, the article about this dreary-sounding mall hardly seems like "propaganda" for the mall.

If the article starts to sound propagandistic, you are as welcome as anybody else to question what it says and to make changes. While you are prevented from editing it, you can make suggestions in this talk page. If you believe that it is not notable and doesn't merit an article at all, you're free to argue this. If you further believe that mere size does not make shopping malls (even large and successful ones) notable, and that WP has a systematic bias towards big and/or bland retailers and/or buildings at the expense of aggregates of small and/or individual retailers and/or buildings (a point of view with which I have some sympathy), then you're free to argue that point as well. But mere bluster will get you nowhere. -- Hoary 02:33, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

To suggest "drake circus is a shopping mall" is equivalent to saying "Seattle is a tower". Its absurd and neglects the 24,000 students, residents, shopkeepers, bar, night clubs etc that all live work and play in Drake Circus. It not only insults the culture of drake circus but Misplaced Pages itself for allowing such nonsense to be published. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.136.168.157 (talk) 02:27, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Please sign your comments, and remember that putting them in bold makes the writer come off like a hectoring bore. -- Hoary 02:33, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

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