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Election notice: Your endorsement

Hi! You have endorsed one of the candidates in the current board elections. However, you have not provided a link from your local project (this one) to your user page on Meta, so we have no way of confirming that you are the same person. Please provide a link to Meta from your user page or user talk page to Meta, then reinstate your endorsement, which I struck and indented. If you like to have your user page in a certain way, you can do it in a diff, like http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User%3AJon_Harald_S%C3%B8by&diff=138817866&oldid=136122013 this], but then you have to provide the link to the diff for us. Thank you for your cooperation! Jon Harald Søby 19:11, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

16:58, 19 June 2007 (UTC)emagination listing edit

Hi Lurker...

I've added references to the emagination listing. Can you please tell me if this satisfies the notibility, attribution and reliable sources? Although emagination is Baltimore-BASED, the clients and partners are national.

Thanks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Twhittle (talk • contribs).

No, I still don't think it meets the notability criteria. See WP:CORP Lurker 17:07, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

speedy deletion tag for reposted content.

Hello. You recently put the tag {{db-repost}} on this version of the article The Nichols-Chancellor's Medal. Speedy deletion of reposted content is however limited to cases where the article was previously deleted through a debate at articles for deletion. If you see that a page that has been speedy deleted previously reappears, then please tag it appropriately as you would tag any other speedy deletion candidate. Also make sure that the new version still fits the speedy criteria. In the present case, the article was first deleted because of a complete lack in context but the reposted version was actually decent and is well worth keeping. Cheers, Pascal.Tesson 02:36, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

info

I am so SORRY my former friend is the one who threating you I signed up as Sonic riders and Mario rules to try and unblock me I am Sonicrules3 I am sorry you probably hate me now like you always willSonicrules3 14:46, 2 July 2007 (UTC)Sonicrules3

List of islands of Scotland

Thanks for your support at Misplaced Pages:Featured list candidates/List of islands of Scotland - it was much appreciated. Ben MacDui (Talk) 17:28, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

And I see it's made the grade. Good news. Lurker (talk · contribs) 09:46, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for signing up. We are now 'live' at Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Scottish Islands! Ben MacDui (Talk) 18:01, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Ooh - Rockall. You are bold my friend! Ben MacDui (Talk) 18:56, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

I did think it could raise a few eyebrows among certan people, but it is officially a Scottish island. I wasn't sure about whether it should be classed as one of the Outer Hebrides, even if it does fall under that area administratively. So I put "North Atlantic" as its location. Lurker (said · done) 13:33, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

I'm not suggesting it be removed from the list, but whilst it is 'officially' a part of Scotland, no one but the UK recognises this and it is almost certainly unenforceable as a legal position. Ben MacDui (Talk) 18:13, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

So it maight not be a good idea to put a Scottish Islands infobox on the article? Lurker (said · done) 18:28, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Feel free of course, although I shall direct enraged Icelanders, Irish nationalists, Faroese and Danish imperialists and their lawyers to this vicinity. Perhaps waiting until April 1st might be advisable. Ben MacDui (Talk) 19:51, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Little context in Kintyre Way

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"Automatic revert"

Before running off with your "automatic reverts", maybe you could try reading up on our policies, specifically WP:FU, unacceptable use #8. Not that I already discussed this before in edit summaries down below. The Evil Spartan 16:56, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

7stanes

Hi, thanks for you work on this article. When you think the article is beyond a stub, if you don't want to reassess yourself (if I contribute to an article, I won't give it about Start-class), you can just remove the assessment and it will be back on the long list to do. If you ever do fancy doing some assessing, the list of unassessed articles is it Category:Unassessed cycling articles. Regards, Severo 09:30, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

RFC

I've simplified the RFC instructions, and hope it no longer gives the false impression that it's somehow a formal process. >Radiant< 15:04, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

You have accused me of personal attack

I've reported myself here. Support your assertion, or stand accused of making unwarranted talk page deletions and personal attack yourself. BusterD 23:48, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

Falsely accusing someone of POV pushing is a personal attack. Lurker (said · done) 12:50, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

The Working Man's Barnstar

		The Working Man's Barnstar
		I'm awarding you this "Working" barnstar for your tireless and endless work on the more laborious or repetitive wikipedia tasks. We need more like you! Wikidudeman 12:52, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

DYK

On 17 August, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Balfour, Orkney, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Carabinieri 01:01, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

St K GA

I notice it has not appeared on the WP:GA list. Is this pending a bot or wot? Also, now that I am reminded of it, Saint Kilda (disambiguation) annoys me (see talk page). Can this just be moved do you know or does this need admin assistance? Ben MacDui (Talk) 18:24, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

No, I just forgot to add it, sorry. It's fixed now. As for the disambig page, just move it. "Saint Kilda" simply doesn't exist. There is no need for admin assistance to move articles. Lurker (said · done) 18:34, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Ok - Ta. Bit busy right now with Renewable energy FAC, but hope to pick up again on serious island matters soon. Ben MacDui (Talk) 18:39, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Actually, I had to list it at Misplaced Pages:Requested moves as the article St Kilda has an edit history in its own right. Lurker (said · done) 18:49, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

Good work - and also re the North Rona snap and the 'peat' issue. Many thanks. Ben MacDui (Talk) 13:27, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks also for your help with Renewable energy... much appreciated. Anyone for tennis? Ben MacDui (Talk) 16:34, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

I think I've found a form of wording on the Andy Murray article that'll maybe stop the edit war for now. I was amused by the description of The Scotsman as a POV source, though. The first thing I thought was "this would screw up the refs on Renewable Energy if it were true" Lurker (said · done)

Re Dinning - you sir are a pedant - and thanks again. (This is an automatic daily message sent to you by Ta-bot). Ben MacDui (Talk) 09:56, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

If you are in the mood for more referencing, I've nominated the almost entirely unreferenced Skara Brae for the island project's collaboration of the month. Enjoy! Lurker (said · done) 10:07, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

User:MarkBul

Hi, I see you tagged him as a sockpuppet of PEAR, but I noticed he is not blocked and has been participating at AfD. Just curious. Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim 00:16, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Barra Head - Island and Marilyn

What are trying to achieve with your Barra Head edit? You have removed the coordinates from the title (ie top right of page) which is standard for Scottish Island pages. The template allows for dual display. The page doubles as a page for the island and for the island top (a Marilyn). We have not resolved how to handle two infoboxes on such pages, but the default right alignment looks odd on such a short page (such as a stub). The mtn infobox was removed from Ailsa Craig on the basis that the island was the more significant entity and the additional mtn information could all be contained in the text. Barra Head has a mtn infobox within a wikitable - that sorts layout, but changes some of the colours. I'm open to ways to maintain appearances for both projects, as I suspect these island Marilyns are never likely to have sufficient independant content for 2 pages. Finavon 19:38, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

When looking at it in IE, the title coords are superimposed over the table text. (I'll have to wait until I get home before I see what it looks like in IE). Lurker (said · done) 11:38, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

I've added a seperate entry for the title coords, it works on my computer. Does it work on yours? Lurker (said · done) 11:43, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

With the second declaration it looks fine in MSIE6 and Firefox. With single declaration it looks as though MSIE tries to put it at the top right of the wikitable - will try to remember as I rarely use MSIE. Thanks. Finavon 13:30, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

Murray

I have let it have both. I included Scotland as his birthplace and British as his tennis nation. Which is to Wiki guidelines may I add. I'm not pushing point of view I am keeping to guidelines. If anything is this SNP brigade that pushing his Scottishness. You can't be a Scottish tennis player, Scottish tennis does not excist, you can be a Scotsman who plays tennis for Britain, have your birthplace as Scotland and it say British tennis player, but you can not be a Scottish tennis player as much as you cannot be a British footballer. JimmyMac82 15:51, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Plus you are clearly Scottish. Seems to be a theme with people who want to call him Scottish. JimmyMac82 15:53, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Insinuating that my edits are suspect because of my nationality is unacceptable conduct. Do not do so again. Murray is both Scottish and British- the article should say so. Not using some form of weasel words to satisfy those who do not believe that Scottish is a nationality, or those who believe British should not be. What is wrong with using both terms? The fact that he plays for Britain is irrelevant. A footballer from Britain is still British, even if there is no UK football team. The agreed-on version does state that he is the highest-ranked British player. Lurker (said · done) 15:57, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

There was nothing agrred just what the Scots wanted, sorry but that is how it is. Of course David Beckham is British, but he not a British footballer, he is a British person and an English footballer. I clearly put Scotland next to Glasgow as his Birthplace and British tennis player which is true, this is to guideline more so than the way it was before. JimmyMac82 16:16, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Andy Murry

Sorry, when I found the page I just saw the sources being blanked, and thats what happened. Apologies. • Lawrence Cohen 16:07, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks, the sources in question do not actaully support the removal of content that JimmyMac82 was carrying out (removing the term Scottish as nationality), which, I imagine, is why the IP editor removed them. Lurker (said · done) 16:09, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

September 2007

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Don Murphy. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content which gains a consensus among editors. There is nothing about this situation that is exempt from the WP:3RR policy, please keep that in mind. ((1 == 2) ? (('Stop') : ('Go')) 15:30, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Please see this page Lurker (said · done) 15:33, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I know all about that page. Arbcom cases do not dictate policy and the decisions apply to the individual cases. Take a look at this: Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration#BADSITES_.2F_NPA_in_articles. You do not have a license to violate 3RR. ((1 == 2) ? (('Stop') : ('Go')) 15:36, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

The wroding of the ruling makes it sound like a general rule. Maybe a solution would be for my case to be referred to ArbCom? Lurker (said · done) 15:42, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

The wording makes it clear that NPA does NOT apply to article text, see the clarification. SirFozzie 15:47, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

I agree the wording of the original ruling does sound like a general ruling, one that is currently being clarified as it may have been overly broadly worded and subject to just this type of misinterpretation. There is already an active request for an arbcom case at the top of the same page regarding pretty much this topic: Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration#BADSITES. Perhaps you can participate there instead of starting a new one? ((1 == 2) ? (('Stop') : ('Go')) 15:48, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

Racist spam? :)

You called my argument racist spam. Well the US Government are racist spammers then: http://www.udel.edu/educ/gottfredson/30years/Rushton-Jensen30years.pdf

What I said about cranial capacity (race & brain size) is all in that study. Its even on wikipedia: Race_and_intelligence#The_evolutionary_history_of_IQ

Quoting wikipedia: "East Asians have a cranial capacity of 1,364 cm3, Whites 1,347 cm3 and Blacks 1,267 cm3." Also quoting wikipedia "there is a positive correlation between brain size and intelligence in humans"

Other then that, its a fact that blacks have larger proportions of melanin in their skin, which make them more sun-resistant. Also, its a fact that europeans & asians are less genetically varied, because only a few people emigrated from africa, and all europeans & asians descend from that small out-of-africa group. Therefore there IS an inferiority-superiority relationship between blacks and whites, but its in particular areas and not generalized.

Its funny how any white person like me that mentions race is a racist spammer. This shows the mentality of wikipedia and why its still so biased. Nobody can handle the truth. SenseOnes 14:22, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Yes, its a fact that black people tend to have more melanin in their skin, and that non-africans tend to be less genetically varied than Africans. But your intelligence argument is nonsense. I noticed the article you are quoting is disputed. Anyway, this isn't a discussion forum, its an encyclopedia so I see no point continuing the debate here. Lurker (said · done) 16:52, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

CFD for Category:Emotion

Hi, I've just made an alternative proposal regarding the renaming of Category:Emotion, and I thought you might like to comment before the discussion closes. Thanks. Cgingold 15:57, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Re: Northern Colletes at DYK

Interesting article, which seems to meet the criteria. However, the hook does not appear to me (no expert on bees) to distinguish from other solitary bees. Can you either make the distinction plain to non-experts in the hook or choose another hook? The machair habitat seemed unusual to me. Thanks, Espresso Addict 15:58, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

I've changed the hook to mention the machair, and the fact the bee was recently discovered to be thriving there. It's a pity the machair article is so poor- I'll have to work on that one. Lurker (said · done) 16:11, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

That was quick -- thanks! I've added the article to the update template, so (if no-one removes it), it should be featured on DYK soon. By the way, if you nominate something else, it's worth checking back on the Suggestions page, as DYK editors often discuss the hook/article there, and if objections aren't answered in time, the article can miss out. Cheers, Espresso Addict 17:30, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Did you know

On 18 September, 2007, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Northern colletes , which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--Allen3  22:45, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

Colin McRae

Lurker, regarding your comment of my "edit warring" over Colin McRae's nationality is simple: I do accept that McRae is Scottish, however the infobox in question is for the WRC and their sanctioning body is the FIA who do not recognize Scotland is a country a driver may represent (neither are England, Wales and Northern Ireland - See Richard Burns (English), Tom Pryce (Welsh) and Eddie Irvine (Northern Irish) as some notable examples, especially the latter two). You can see a discussion on this topic at WikiProject Motorsport for full details.

And for the record, I'm putting McRae as British to keep it consistent with other Motorsport bios, not only that but the British version is supported by both the WP:MOTOR project and in this essay as well. If you have any further questions than feel free to drop me a line or start a topic at WP:MOTOR on the issue. ps: I apologies if I have caused any offense in my edits. --Phill _{Review this GA review!} 11:56, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Surely an infobox is for the person as a whole, not simply in one particular context. Lurker (said · done) 11:58, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Orkney saga

Thank-you for your support of the FL nomination, which was successful. Ben MacDui (Talk) 19:05, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

Votes for banning

Hi. I have reverted your removal of the heading. The heading adds context to my comment, its removal will change the context. Please do not delete the heading. Thanks you, Mercury 12:27, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

The problem is, if everyone were to start using headings to draw attention to their comments, discussions would look ridiculous. Lurker (said · done) 12:30, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

I do understand where you are coming from... I tend to reserve the headers for if I change the direction of the discussion greatly, I'll make it a level smaller. Mercury 12:41, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

It looks better now, thanks. But I'd still lean towards not having sections at all in short discussions. Lurker (said · done) 12:43, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Hey, looking good at Northern Colletes by the way. Mercury 12:45, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Lurker (said · done) 10:22, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

MFD Results

A MFD you recently participated in, arguing to keep the content has been closed with a non-standard closure, requiring additional action to maintain the content. Please review my closing and participate with the required move action if you desire. Thank you, — xaosflux 01:37, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

I forgot to bring this up in the AfD, but the nominator actually moved the userboxes to the blocked users' pages from User:UBX, which comes across as underhanded to me. I think the best way to deal with them is to move them to their original location. I'll have to go to requested moves for this, though. Also, why was the heroin one deleted but not the Shrooms one? I can see one person in the debate who suggested deletign this and not the others- surely this, too is a no consensus? Lurker (said · done) 12:24, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello Lurker

Regarding your accusation of me using a Sockpuppet, regardless of whether YESYESandmanygoals is or is not controlled by me, what you really have to ask is what 'wrong' has YESYESandmanygoals done? has he broke any rules? is that really 'Trolling', I'm not saying "get a sence of humour", but i am saying take a look at his page with a smile instead of with inspection glasses, and ofcourse try to assume good faith. Gazh 09:46, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

Lady Isle

Hello Lurker. Thanks for the comments and advice. I may need some help here and there. I have an account already on Wikicommons & will endeavour to make more use of it. Rosser 21:01, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Category:Editors with service awards

As someone noted in the discussion, all the subcats need to be tagged, else no action will be taken for them. Tagging is necessary to alert anyone interested in the categories (for transparency, for example). Please let me know when this is done, and I'll be glad to relist the nom from that day. - jc37 17:38, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

I've tagged all of the subcats. I had to use my own slightly altered version of the template code to do this, as there doesn't seen to be a template to tag multiple categories and have them all direct to the same discussion. Lurker (said · done) 11:38, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Ok. I'll go ahead and relist. - jc37 19:17, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

Y	Your request to be unblocked has been granted for the following reason(s): Autoblock of 80.193.214.2 lifted or expired. Request handled by: ~ Riana ⁂ 12:04, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Shapinsay

Well done for boldness. Three issues that you might want to take a look at.

• There is, or may be, an inconsistency regarding the owners of Balfour Castle. "Richard Zawadski, owner of Balfour Mains as well as the Castle" and "a hotel by the family of Captain Tadeusz Zawadzki,"
• If I were reviewing this for GA I'd suggest getting rid of the reference to owls on the grounds of non-notability.
• I think the last three sentences in 'Folklore' need attention, but I've run out of time for now.

Good luck!! Ben MacDui (Talk) 17:03, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

According to this site, Richard is Tadeusz's son, and runs the farm at Balfour Mains. I don't think the page is notable enough to cite, but I'll correct the statement that he owns the castle. Unfortunately, both spellings seem to be used in the sources, I'll go with the one on the castle website. Lurker (said · done) 17:20, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

I'm on the road at present and don't have much time at present, and am using the usual crappy browser. Looks like you're having fun and it's all under control. I'll be back Thursday if you need anything. Ben MacDui/(Walk) 14:57, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. I've found some census data but its in the form of several excel files, which have cryptic file names. I'm slowly going through them when I have time, and should be able to add some more useful info to the demographics section. Apart from that, the issues with the GA seem to have all been solved. Lurker (said · done) 15:07, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Didsbury

Thanks for your review of the Didsbury article, and particular thanks for dealing with the MOS issues yourself, instead of listing them and putting the article on hold. Much appreciated. --Malleus Fatuarum 18:45, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

You're welcome. I find that to be the most constructive option if there are only one or two issues. No point leaving it on hold if the problem can be solved in ten minutes. Lurker (said · done) 18:47, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Colin McRae edits

Lurker, I'm Scottish and a rally fan for over 30 years. The Colin McRae WRC infobox is a good compromise of British/Scottish nationality contention (it was me who came up with this compromise in the first place if you check the page history!) but this 'represents Great Britain' in the first paragraph bit really riles me. Rally drivers don't 'represent' a particular country when competing, its not like athletics where Sebastian Coe would 'represent' Great Britain or England. Rallying and Formula 1 and all other forms of motorsport are individual competitions pitching driver against driver. You wouldnt say "the Monte Carlo rally was won by Finland", it was won by a driver competing for himself and his team, not a driver competing for his home country. Ive opened a discussion on this subject on the Colin McRae talk page. Please lets not start another edit war on Colins page! scancoaches 15:45, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Scotland article assessment

Hello. You or User:Ben MacDui seem to do the assessments for Wikiproject Scotland. I had put in a request for John Knox. Could you do the assessment (both quality and importance)? As for the quality rating, I would be interested to know if it goes beyond GA to A-level (I also asked the same question from Wikiproject Biography). Even if your opinion differs from the other projects, that's ok, it just means more work to be done. You can leave feedback on the article's talk page. --RelHistBuff 11:49, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

I've given it an A. Well done, it's a great article and is near Featured Article standard. Lurker (said · done) 17:48, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

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Fuck you, you piece of shit

The facts are pretty fucking clear. I am the funniest and best writer ever. All this shit about vandalism stems from some kind of sexual insecurity by yourself. Go and die. I hope that you meet with an "accident" involving a rusty knife and a double glazed window salesman. Seriously, you're a cunt. It would be no exaggeration to say that I postively loathe you. 81.107.36.188 16:08, 3 November 2007 (UTC)