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Thunder Bay Transit

I got the fleet information from http://www.cptdb.ca/index.php/Thunder_Bay_Transit. There should be no route restruction coming up. Also, I have a friend working at TBT and I might be able to ask permission for scanning the bus passes.

Also, I have many TBT photos on my website (http://ygtransit.fotopic.net), so I might be able to post them in the article.

Lfs147 20:11, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

CDI College

thanks for fixing up the CDI College article, i like it. see how a wiki works now, if you don't like it fix it don't delete it, a collective mind working together coming to a neutral agreement.

Patcoola

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Yeah, both images are fine now, if you ever need any more help don't hesitate to contact me.Tellyaddict 16:37, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

Anishinaabe Project

Hello Vidioman, Thank you for the comments on the Nishnawbe-Aski Template. I see you know a lot about Northern and Northwestern Ontario. A few editors have created Misplaced Pages:WikiProject Indigenous peoples of North America/Anishinaabe to organize everything on wikipedia related to Anishinaabe peoples including the Ojibwe and Oji-Cree. You can also find templates, discussion, Ojibwe-language userboxes and other stuff. None of us are Canadian (though I recently moved from Wisconsin to NW Ontario), so the vast majority of articles on the Canadian side are stubs. Anything you can contribute would be much appreciated. Thank you Leo1410 16:44, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

Thunder Bay Regional Health Sciences Centre

Perfectly accectable. Thank you --St.daniel 12:23, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

Thunder Bay International Airport

I'm not sure what the CZBT is referring to Thunder Bay's airport is CYQT. I'm using the current Canada Flight Supplement and that's what ICAO and the Canadian Government use. Look at Eurocontrol and check both by entering them in the "Location Indicator" box. Also check Google CZTB and Google CYQT. It might be a weather station such as this. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 02:22, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

OK. Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 02:29, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

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Atikokan, Ontario

Hi Vidioman. Good work on the above noted article, you've made it a lot more readable. I note what appears to be a date discrepancy regarding Tom Rawn as the result of one of your edits "and in March 1945 with 60 claims in his name, created Rawn Iron Mines Ltd. On July 23, 1940, Rawn went out prospecting near Sapawe, and never returned." Looks like he formed a company 5 years after his death. Previous version "...in March 1940... On July 23 of the same year" makes more sense, I think he disappeared in 1940 so the March 1945 may in fact be March 1940. I didn't change anything as you obviously are more on top of the subject. What do you think? JohnJardine 15:06, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

TB as a GA

Hey, just though I'd let you know I nominated Thunder Bay, Ontario as a good article. You've done a huge job on it and it's really good. The only thing I think we'll need is just more references and maybe expand the lead. Anyway, I just wanted to let you know about the nom.--Richard (Talk - Contribs) 15:59, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Thunder Bay GA Rating

I updated parts of the article, please see the comment on Talk:Thunder Bay, Ontario#GA review. Vidioman 17:41, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Regarding wikilinking of years, do we wikilink a year in infoboxes, like the year a community was established, if it is stand alone? (year only) Vidioman 21:35, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

No, it shouldn't be linked. Epbr123 22:02, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Media

Yeah, I'd do something much like the Lethbridge list. Also take a look at List of Greater Sudbury media, particularly the "Out-of-market radio" subheading — we could do something similar for the Hot FM stations.

I'd still go for a primarily city-by-city treatment rather than regional media lists, though, because some cities (Kenora, for example) just don't have long enough treatments on here to even really think about splitting their media sections out of the main article right now. Bearcat 03:01, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

I won't take the media section out of the article yet, but I'll take a crack at formatting it on a sandbox page as Thunder Bay, Ontario/List of Thunder Bay media. Then we can decide from there. Bearcat 03:05, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Okay, I have a basic list article set up at the title I mentioned above. There are still a few things that can be added to expand it, certainly (I'm going to look up the DTV channel assignments now), but if you're comfortable with it I can move it to List of Thunder Bay media, add the categories and change the media section on the city article into a link to the list. I should point out, of course, that doing it as a separate list isn't mandatory or anything like that — it's a fairly common way these days to reduce the length of the main article, but it's voluntary and it's not the only way that can be done. Bearcat 03:27, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Cool...I did the cable section from this outdated page, for what it's worth. I also rewrote the out-of-market radio section a little bit just to improve the clarity. So if you think it's in usable condition now, let me know and I can move it into article space. Bearcat 02:56, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

I just made a couple of very small style edits (a frequency should be given as "89.3 FM", not "89.3-FM"). The only noteworthy comment I have is that Survivor isn't a CTV program outside of Thunder Bay; it airs on Global. Accordingly, I removed the reference to Survivor as an example of CKPR's CTV programming, but if you can come up with a different one, please do add that instead. Bearcat 22:01, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Market sizes

Glendive, Montana (population ~12,000 in the market) is the smallest. CrazyC83 19:26, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

Thunder Bay International Airport

Just to let you know that it wasn't a typo. When I added the 2006 movments the final stats weren't available so I used the preliminary movements. Cheers. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 06:06, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for updating List of busiest airports in Canada. I hadn't noticed the final figures were out yet. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 06:43, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

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Climate graph

Flin Flon was the only one I used it for, I was going to use it to make up a chart for Greater Sudbury but never got around to it. Thanks--Kelapstick 20:21, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Hi Vid. Thanks for reinserting that paragraph in Winnipeg on the major employer numbers. I had already reinserted it once yesterday, but another editor was making so many rapid-fire changes to the article that I missed it the second time around. Cheers. -- Taroaldo 18:40, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Jeddah Climatological Data

Thanks Boss for updating the template and Data , the prev. data was made by a personal test using Car Tempreture across the year , Thats the reason i wrote Record and didnt write Average . but the current data seems good also , Because i live there and it doesnt go over this range :) , thanks for your 20 minutes :) Ammar ( - ) 23:50, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

And you right , this is based on Toronto's climate template. Ammar ( - ) 23:53, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

Thunder Bay Wards map

I think your Thunder Bay Wards map looks great. For a first map, it's outstanding. Suggestions could include:

• Put the "Thunder Bay" title on a slant or somehow show that it applies to the entire expanse of water shown on the map (it does, doesn't it?). Right now, it's just too cramped in my opinion.
• Insert a mini-map that helps folks unfamiliar with Thunder Bay to locate it within Canada or the Great lakes (e.g. I myself didn't know whether it was on Lake Superior or Lake Huron).
• Add this map to as many articles as you can (that don't already have a map), even if they are not about Thunder Bay wards.

Congrats! Now, what's your next map?? MapMaster 03:44, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

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Winnipeg

Good work on the demographic section. It definitely needed some work. I tried fixing the footnotes but my computer kept freezing and cutting out so all I did was eliminate a footnote and was going to come back today to fix things up but alas, you had done a great job already. jdobbin 19:57, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Ontario map

Nice job. Looks much nicer than the plain white one we were using before. Though it's obviously going to take quite a while to replace every map that needs replacing on here...I'd help if I had a clue how to do the dot placement! Bearcat 03:52, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

Hockey Maps

Hey that's pretty sharp. If you want to fiddle with some other league maps... I have 5 more for you (I warn you, some are ridiculous):

• Greater Metro Junior A Hockey League
• Northern Ontario Junior Hockey League
• Central Junior A Hockey League
• Ontario Provincial Junior A Hockey League
• Greater Ontario Junior Hockey League

Tell me what you think. DMighton 04:36, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

You told me to inform you if there are any typos.... on the GMJHL map, Douro and Deseronto are misspelled. DMighton 10:20, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

CJHL Map -- Glouchester is Gloucester, Napean is Nepean

GOJHL Map -- Seems to be good, anyway we could get all of "Fort Erie" on the map or shrink the text in the Key to fit inside the key box?

Good job, I like them. After you do the OPJHL, if you are still interested, the Ontario Hockey League and Western Hockey League could use a map update... and the Quebec Major Junior Hockey League might benefit from it. Just a thought. DMighton 20:06, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

List of municipalities in the Golden Horseshoe

Hi Vidioman,

I loved your addition to the article, it makes the article (or rather list), one step closer to perfection. To tell you what, I like this edition with all the municipalities more over than this edition with just all the regional municipalities. Here's what I would suggest:

1. Move your Sandbox 1 Edition (So with ALL the municipalities) to the List of municipalities in the Golden Horseshoe.
2. Move your Sandbox 2 Edition (So with ALL the regional municipalities) into a template (they are too good to be a list, and plus, if we put them into the actual list, information will become very redundant.) I would be doing an experimental version of the template in my own sandbox. However, you can merge some info onto the actual list, i.e. the area and population.

Thanks for your suggestion!

Smcafirst the Roadgeek|Questions? 21:41, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Deleting

--NE2 20:50, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

It looks like "download" is a decent term - in cases where the road was transferred to the county and not renumbered. But the source you provided for "decommissioning" is not a reliable source. --NE2 21:14, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

I changed template:infobox road to add the parameter. If it's been reverted, it's not my fault. --NE2 22:15, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for proving the unsuitability of "decommissioned" - the first person thought it meant "torn down" and the second "abandoned". --NE2 23:02, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

OK, maybe "deleted" is wrong, but so is "decommissioned". I'd like to have a reasoned discussion, but I'm not really sure where to have it. Sometimes the bureaucracy here is ridiculous... you can file a request for comment, but it must be tied to a specific article, policy, or user... --NE2 23:10, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

I have started a new discussion at Misplaced Pages talk:WikiProject Highways#"Decommissioned". Can we please discuss this calmly? --NE2 23:31, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

Tannis Drysdale

It seems the article has been deleted before I could get to makeing a response as to why it shouldn't be deleted. How would I go about getting it undeleted?Picard102 20:29, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

List of Cities on the Great Lakes

You said that Leamington, Ontario was not categorized, but should be...does that mean if i put it in the category of cities on the great lakes, then it could be listed on that article? RingtailedFox • Talk • Stalk 15:05, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Alrighty. Well, i'll create a small sub-page for towns with a minimal population of 10,000 (Leamington has 31,000, Kingsville has 24,000, and so on) at List of Municipalities on the Great Lakes or List of Towns on the Great Lakes, whichever sounds nicer to you (or have one redirect to the other, or have both as separate articles)... RingtailedFox • Talk • Stalk 15:12, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

I won't get upset, though..why would it be deleted if it was done properly? RingtailedFox • Talk • Stalk 15:35, 24 October 2007 (UTC):

Should I change the existing article so it doesn't have a capital "C" (in Cities)? RingtailedFox • Talk • Stalk 15:39, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

List of Municipalities in the Golden Horseshoe

Hi Vidioman,

I agree with changing the chart format. The charts, in some cases, are way too big for computers with low screen resolution. I like the format used in List of municipalities in Lycoming County, Pennsylvania, but I do like to "change" some of the formatting used in that list. I'll tell you about it later. The flagicon idea is brilliant, but I am not sure if we have flag icon for every single municipality.

And your offtoipic issue: I do not agree with NE2's "deleted highways". In fact, they are just decommissioned. To tell you what, I have suggested this before, but he/she simply won't listen to ANY of my suggestions. Good luck persuading him/her to change it.

Smcafirst the Roadgeek|Questions? 16:02, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

P.S. I did not reply for long because I had a trip to Stratford on October 23 and 24.

Re:

From what I understand, WP:3RR does not apply for vandalism. I don't think that I have to warn a user that I revert all the time. I think it's only when I am reporting them, which I haven't done. I'm going to seek a third opionion from an administrator though.--U.S.A.U.S.A.U.S.A. 02:23, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Already got one.--U.S.A.U.S.A.U.S.A. 02:26, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Hi Vidioman, just so you know - the 3 revert rule doesn't apply to obvious vandalism. There's no limit to the number of times an editor can revert that. You can check out the exception to 3RR at WP:3RR#Exceptions... WjBscribe 02:28, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

I didn't know that :P thanks. vıdıoman (talk • contribs) 03:46, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Radio templates

Actually, it would be impossible to justify any radio template at all for most of the Thunder Bay District if they're not added to the TBay template, because the rest of the district doesn't have enough radio stations to warrant creating one. Grouping by census division is actually easier to justify in Northern Ontario than in the south, because the average southern Ontario census division has two or three times as many radio stations. Bearcat 23:30, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Every radio station article should have some form of market template on it, which means it's necessary to organize the templates in such a way that there are templates which can account for and include every radio station and leave none untemplated. If you have a viable alternative to a "Thunder Bay District" template, be my guest, but CFNO et al. have to be included in a template somewhere. Bearcat 23:42, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Even Toronto, which has three times as many stations to list as Thunder Bay would even after adding Greenstone and Marathon, only gets one market-wide template rather than separate "City of Toronto" and "Suburban GTA" templates. Vancouver, with about the same number of stations to list as Toronto has, gets one template for the entire Fraser Valley, not separate "Vancouver" and "Outside of Vancouver" templates. Montreal gets one MUC-wide template, not separate "Island of Montreal" and "Off-Island" templates. I can't really split a 10-station city out from its larger region into a dedicated template if 30-station metropolitan markets like Toronto, Montreal or Vancouver don't even get treated that way. Hell, metropolitan radio markets don't even get split AM/FM templates anymore, let alone subregions.

So I've got two conflicting imperatives here: the radio project's longstanding requirement to improve consistency by making market templates look and act the same as each other whenever possible, and your preference that I make Thunder Bay an isolated exception to current practice. Bearcat 00:45, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

In the case of Kenora, I think I probably would do a separate one for First Nations communities in the far north, since they're such a completely different media context than any other part of the province — but the Kenora template should link to that one under its "See also" section. I'd maybe even take Moosonee off the Cochrane District/Timmins template and put it on the far north one instead, since apart from getting CBC One from Sudbury instead of Thunder Bay, it really has a lot more in common with the isolated fly-in villages in northern Kenora District than it does with Timmins or Hearst. Bearcat 02:23, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Could you please explain more fully?

You said your map less confusing? How do you figure that?

The wikipedia is a worldwide project. Many readers are going to have an uncertain idea of where Canada is. Orthographic projection is very useful to make clear where in the world a location is.

Cheers! Geo Swan 21:55, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Further the location of Iqaluit disappears when you click on the thumbnail. Iqaluit is a port. Your placement of the red dot makes it look like the city is landlocked.

Cheers! Geo Swan 22:00, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

I should have left my comment on Talk:Iqaluit. I left a summary of our discussion there, and requested other's comments.

I did not point out that your reply strongly suggests you don't understand what a geographic projection is. Mercator projection is the most common, and the most confusing for areas near one of the Earth's poles. We don't know what projection was used by your red-dot map. But, IMO, it is not as good a projection as the Orthographic.

Orthographic has nothing to do with lines of latitude or longitude. An orthographic projection is one that represents the area in question as if viewed from outer space. Take a look at some of the other similar maps I made: ].

Cheers! Geo Swan 17:23, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: Image:Water st terminal.JPG

While I will not challenge your removal of no-source tag in good-faith presumption, I just want to recommend against taking this image to Commons until the exact source is found because I have seen so many images with license tags but no sources being challenged and deleted there. For images not uploaded after 1st Jan 2006, Template:GFDL-presumed may be used in good faith, but these images are to be phased out and cannot be taken to Commons.--Jusjih 01:50, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

I move images to Commons with CommonsHelper tool. This ensures that original uploaders are noted on Commons, which is a GFDL requirement of attribution. Until a replacement is available, I will let this image stay here. Thanks for your reply.--Jusjih 03:40, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Award

The Golden Maple Leaf For your contributions to Ontario and Canada related topics, I award you this fresh maple leaf. --Qyd (talk) 22:04, 17 November 2007 (UTC)