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| Collection of quotes, mostly long out of date and selected to be as critical of mainstream medicine as possible (despite the mainstream medicine being criticised usually having no relation to modern medicine) used to push a POV on ]. Delete it and all the subpages, and remove from the portal. ] <sup>]</sup> 21:23, 29 November 2007 (UTC) | Collection of quotes, mostly long out of date and selected to be as critical of mainstream medicine as possible (despite the mainstream medicine being criticised usually having no relation to modern medicine) used to push a POV on ]. Delete it and all the subpages, and remove from the portal. ] <sup>]</sup> 21:23, 29 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
| This page is part of the ]. Quotes are a feature of many different portals. All quotes are from historic figures, of course. History is never out of date. History is what makes an encyclopedia an encyclopedia. Of course, there is some overlap with medicine. That is why medicine is in the name of this portal. '''Just because you don't personally like something is absolutely not justification to delete anything, per the rules of Misplaced Pages.''' Of course, the quotes are going to express an alternative medicine theme. That is the topic of this portal. -- ] (]) 21:53, 29 November 2007 (UTC) | : This page is part of the ]. Quotes are a feature of many different portals. All quotes are from historic figures, of course. History is never out of date. History is what makes an encyclopedia an encyclopedia. Of course, there is some overlap with medicine. That is why medicine is in the name of this portal. '''Just because you don't personally like something is absolutely not justification to delete anything, per the rules of Misplaced Pages.''' Of course, the quotes are going to express an alternative medicine theme. That is the topic of this portal. -- ] (]) 21:53, 29 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
| : I am in favor of keeping this. Is there any formal policy in Misplaced Pages's guidelines for Portals which deal with this sort of page? Adam Cuerdan, are you also in favor of deleting ] then as well? Interesting because muc of the quotes which you say are critical of mainstream medicine actually appear in this portal's quote page as well. -- <b><font color="996600" face="times new roman,times,serif">]</font></b> <sup><font color="#774400" size="1" style="padding:1px;border:1px #996600 dotted;background-color:#FFFF99">]</font></sup> 22:15, 29 November 2007 (UTC) | :: I am in favor of keeping this. Is there any formal policy in Misplaced Pages's guidelines for Portals which deal with this sort of page? Adam Cuerdan, are you also in favor of deleting ] then as well? Interesting because muc of the quotes which you say are critical of mainstream medicine actually appear in this portal's quote page as well. -- <b><font color="996600" face="times new roman,times,serif">]</font></b> <sup><font color="#774400" size="1" style="padding:1px;border:1px #996600 dotted;background-color:#FFFF99">]</font></sup> 22:15, 29 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
| * '''Delete the Portal.''' Considering the avowed "objectives" of the creator, this portal is itself very questionable. It is blatant POV pushing and intended to be used for advocacy. | |||
| : Here is what ] has to say about his "Objectives" at Misplaced Pages: | |||
| :: Founder and developer of the Wikiproject on Alternative Medicine | |||
| :: Single handedly succeeded in making alternative medicine or CAM a collective of articles. It is no longer only a few isolated articles on kooky topics. CAM is now a collective maintained by a collective of editors (See category:alternative medicine). The science trolls have officially lost control over CAM. And, they now know that it is too late to reverse the situation. Time moves on and stops for nobody. Once a person locates just one article on CAM they are now tied in to the collective of over 200 articles. -- John Gohde 09:41, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC) | |||
| :: '''''Source'': John Gohde's "]"''' (his word) () | |||
| : So, according to him, mainstream, pro-science editors are "science trolls" and his "collective of editors" has (or should have) control of the CAM articles. Interesting agenda for a fringe takeover and control of Misplaced Pages alternative medicine articles. That is an extreme violation-of-NPOV agenda and reveals he does not respect or intend to follow NPOV. -- <i><b><font color="004000">]</font></b></i> / <b><font color="990099" size="1">]</font></b> 00:46, 30 November 2007 (UTC) | |||
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Portal:Complementary and Alternative Medicine/Quotes
Collection of quotes, mostly long out of date and selected to be as critical of mainstream medicine as possible (despite the mainstream medicine being criticised usually having no relation to modern medicine) used to push a POV on Portal:Complementary and Alternative Medicine. Delete it and all the subpages, and remove from the portal. Adam Cuerden 21:23, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
- This page is part of the Complementary and alternative medicine Portal. Quotes are a feature of many different portals. All quotes are from historic figures, of course. History is never out of date. History is what makes an encyclopedia an encyclopedia. Of course, there is some overlap with medicine. That is why medicine is in the name of this portal. Just because you don't personally like something is absolutely not justification to delete anything, per the rules of Misplaced Pages. Of course, the quotes are going to express an alternative medicine theme. That is the topic of this portal. -- John Gohde (talk) 21:53, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
- I am in favor of keeping this. Is there any formal policy in Misplaced Pages's guidelines for Portals which deal with this sort of page? Adam Cuerdan, are you also in favor of deleting Portal:Medicine/Quotes_archive then as well? Interesting because muc of the quotes which you say are critical of mainstream medicine actually appear in this portal's quote page as well. -- Levine2112 22:15, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
- Delete the Portal. Considering the avowed "objectives" of the creator, this portal is itself very questionable. It is blatant POV pushing and intended to be used for advocacy.
- Here is what User:John Gohde has to say about his "Objectives" at Misplaced Pages:
- Founder and developer of the Wikiproject on Alternative Medicine
- Single handedly succeeded in making alternative medicine or CAM a collective of articles. It is no longer only a few isolated articles on kooky topics. CAM is now a collective maintained by a collective of editors (See category:alternative medicine). The science trolls have officially lost control over CAM. And, they now know that it is too late to reverse the situation. Time moves on and stops for nobody. Once a person locates just one article on CAM they are now tied in to the collective of over 200 articles. -- John Gohde 09:41, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
- Source: John Gohde's "Objectives" (his word) (diff)
- So, according to him, mainstream, pro-science editors are "science trolls" and his "collective of editors" has (or should have) control of the CAM articles. Interesting agenda for a fringe takeover and control of Misplaced Pages alternative medicine articles. That is an extreme violation-of-NPOV agenda and reveals he does not respect or intend to follow NPOV. -- Fyslee / talk 00:46, 30 November 2007 (UTC)