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==Debate over dice control== ==Debate over dice control==
Some within the ] community believe that statistically significant dice control can be accomplished by throws that do not hit any of the walls at the craps table<ref name="times"> by John Brokopp</ref> <ref></ref>. One example is the "army blanket roll",<ref> by ]</ref> named after the playing surface of the dice games of American servicemen during WWII. In the army blanket roll, a player sets the dice on an axis and gently rolls or slides them gently down the table. If the shooter is successful, the dice will not leave the axis they are rolled on and will come to rest before hitting the back wall. A successful shooter would affect the odds significantly. It is sometimes possible to control the dice with certain throws that do not hit the back wall of the craps table. <ref name="times"> by John Brokopp</ref> <ref></ref>. One example is the "army blanket roll",<ref> by ]</ref> named after the playing surface of the dice games of American servicemen during WWII. In the army blanket roll, a player sets the dice on an axis and gently rolls or slides them gently down the table. If the shooter is successful, the dice will not leave the axis they are rolled on and will come to rest before hitting the back wall. A successful shooter would affect the odds significantly.


But most casinos require that the dice touch the wall in order for a throw to be valid. The chances of altering the odds when the dice bounce off a surface of rubber pyramids are much slimmer, no matter what axis the dice were on before they hit. Dice control proponents advocate a throw that gently bounces off of the back wall and comes to rest after barely touching it. Experiments have been conducted on the subject of dice control, with inconclusive results. <ref name="wizard"></ref> But most casinos require that the dice touch the wall in order for a throw to be valid. The chances of altering the odds when the dice bounce off a surface of rubber pyramids are much slimmer, no matter what axis the dice were on before they hit. Dice control proponents advocate a throw that gently bounces off of the back wall and comes to rest after barely touching it. Experiments have been conducted on the subject of dice control, with inconclusive results. <ref name="wizard"></ref>

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Dice control (also known as dice influencing or dice setting) in casino craps is a controversial theory where proponents claim that individuals can learn to carefully toss the dice so as to influence the outcome. A small but dedicated community of dice shooters claim proof of dice influencing in casino conditions. The concept of such precision shooting claims to elevate craps from a random game of chance, to a sport, not unlike golf, darts, or pool. The gambling community still doubts that dice control can successfully overcome the house edge on craps.

Controlled shooting

The concept of "controlled shooting" goes beyond simply "setting the dice" prior to shooting. It purports to involve limiting the degrees of freedom in the rigid body dynamics of the dice. The theory is that if the dice are properly gripped and tossed at the correct angle they will land just before the back wall of the craps table, then gently touch the wall, greatly increasing the probability of their remaining on the same axis. If executed properly and consistently this technique would be able to change the game's long-term odds from the house's favor to the player's favor.

Notable proponents of dice control

Chris Pawlicki (author of Get The Edge At Craps: How to Control the Dice) explains the math and science behind dice control. Stanford Wong, who took a course offered by Frank Scoblete's Golden Touch Craps group, also discusses dice control in his book Wong on Dice. Pawlicki and Jerry L. Patterson co-developed PARR (Patterson Rhythm Roll) in 1997, which claims to be the first course on how to set and control dice.

Debate over dice control

It is sometimes possible to control the dice with certain throws that do not hit the back wall of the craps table. . One example is the "army blanket roll", named after the playing surface of the dice games of American servicemen during WWII. In the army blanket roll, a player sets the dice on an axis and gently rolls or slides them gently down the table. If the shooter is successful, the dice will not leave the axis they are rolled on and will come to rest before hitting the back wall. A successful shooter would affect the odds significantly.

But most casinos require that the dice touch the wall in order for a throw to be valid. The chances of altering the odds when the dice bounce off a surface of rubber pyramids are much slimmer, no matter what axis the dice were on before they hit. Dice control proponents advocate a throw that gently bounces off of the back wall and comes to rest after barely touching it. Experiments have been conducted on the subject of dice control, with inconclusive results.

References

  1. ^ WizardofOdds.com: Craps Appendix 3 - Dice Setting
  2. ^ Casino City Times: Dice Control - Fact or Fiction by John Brokopp
  3. Craps Hero
  4. Correct Toss & Angle to Make Dice Control Work
  5. Description of PARR Course
  6. Dicesetter.com: An Opinion on Dice Control
  7. GamblingTimes.com: Dice Control - Setting the Dice by Jerry L. Patterson

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