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September 2007

Welcome to Misplaced Pages. It might not have been your intention, but your recent contribution removed content from Digimon World: Dawn and Dusk. Please be careful when editing pages and do not remove content from Misplaced Pages without a good reason, which should be specified in the edit summary. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. If you would like to experiment again, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Владимир И. Сува Чего? 20:47, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

Please stop. If you continue to vandalize Misplaced Pages, as you did to Digimon World: Dawn and Dusk, you will be blocked from editing. Владимир И. Сува Чего? 20:48, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

LoZ:LA

If you want to have a genre debate (which is a hard fight to win with Zelda), do so on the discussion page. Zixor 09:46, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Stop reverting the genre. Discuss your opinion on the discussion page. You'll be reported if it happens again. Zixor 02:51, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Forgive me for my previous shortness, but my concern has little to do with this specific debate. I'm not advocating the current genre choice any more than I am your revision. -This isn't the way to solve the issue though. You need to stop simply forcing your opinion through reversion, and actually make your case on the discussion page. Otherwise you'll get nothing accomplished and merely create problems for everyone. Zixor 03:05, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Your recent edits

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Phantom Hourglass genre dispute

So what is your reason for changing the genre in this game's article to RPG? You have stated nothing other than so far that some completely unofficial site has stated it is one, which isn't a valid reason. Haipa Doragon (talk) 19:29, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Can you please disscuss on the talk page before making changes no one agrees with? The Placebo Effect 20:32, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

Discuss? No, not until you lot learn to stop contradicting yourselves.V-Dash 22:48, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Dlong 14:39, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

• you have been blocked for 24 hours. When you return you are requested to use article talk pages tp reach a consensus on contentious content rather then disrupting the project by edit warring. Spartaz 22:44, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. Dlong 20:54, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Misplaced Pages, as you did to User:Everyone on the HPB. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. —DerHexer (Talk) 18:43, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

John Cena is the best wrestler

It is nice to see a fellow Cena fan on Misplaced Pages.Emplaya 19:22, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

It is nice to see two of you guys here. Hey Emplaya, it's me. CG_Soldier_Rage--CG Soldier Rage (talk) 01:04, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Beg your pardon?

Hello, there. I'm a Misplaced Pages administrator. Regarding this edit and this edit, that sort of behavior is not at all welcome on Misplaced Pages. If you have a disagreement with this user, please feel free to make use of the dispute resolution process; otherwise, please bear in mind that Misplaced Pages strives to welcome many people from many cultures and walks of life, and that behavior such as that could be construed as both harassment and vandalism, both of which can lead to user(s) being blocked from editing. Misplaced Pages isn't a battleground, we're here to work together, not to "pwn hard." – Luna Santin (talk) 23:35, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

October 2007

Hello. Please don't forget to provide an edit summary, which wasn't included with your recent edit to The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass. Thank you. Please DISCUSS the game type on the talk page, but most of us are pretty sure this is a action-adventure game MASEM 02:58, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

John Cena shall be champion again

Always bashing John Cena for no reason. Cena rules. THE CHAMP IS HERE. He never lost the title, and he will gain it back as only he is worthy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Emplaya (talk • contribs) 00:09, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

GO JOHN CENA--CG Soldier Rage (talk) 01:05, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

A note to Action

Wow dude, you're pathetic. Not only are you the world's biggest geek and nerd, but you are also a complete ass. Give it up trying to fake intelligence because you lack the brain capacity to string together even the most simplest of points.

How cute. The little turdball is getting mad because someone's dissing his favorite game. Save the excuse for someone who cares Action because I don't. You're a geek and that's all there is to it. Do the world a favor and ram your head into a wall.

How pathetic. A "momma joke." Dude, that's soo played out. Perhaps you need a crash course on how to NOT bastardize the English language.

November 2007

With regard to your comments on User:V-Dash: Please see Misplaced Pages's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. Nn123645 03:33, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Should be happy to see this.] See the system does work if you let it :).Nn123645 04:14, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Your recent edits

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November 3rd, 2007: Caution

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Pokémon Diamond and Pearl. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. You have already exceeded the number of revisions permitted within the 24-hour period. If you make another, you will be reported for violating WP:3RR. MelicansMatkin 21:36, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Please do not delete or edit legitimate talk page comments, as you did at User talk:V-Dash. Such edits are disruptive and appear to be vandalism. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. MelicansMatkin 22:17, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

What treachery is this?

Vandalism to V-Dash's talk page? I AM V-DASH. How can I be marked for editing MY own talk page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by V-Dash (talk • contribs) 22:25, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

You were marked for removing a cautionary warning regarding WP:3RR from your talk page; removing/editing comments made by other users is frowned upon on Misplaced Pages, especially when it comes to removing warnings that serve only to let you know when Misplaced Pages policy is being broken, and encouraging you to express yourself in a constructive manner. MelicansMatkin 22:56, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Proof that I did not edit your profile

Hello, this is MetricTrout. As you can see, my IP address is 4.156.201.101. The IP address of the guy who vandalized your profile is 64.90.92.236.

Also, lol. The Misplaced Pages moderators found you guilty of vandalizing your own profile as well.

V-Dash did not vandalize his own profile. What he did was remove a caution from his talk page, something discouraged. No warning would have been issued if it had been archived instead of removed. Also, please do not try to escalate a conflict. A difference in the IP address means nothing for the record; the anonynous edits could have been made using a laptop, a library computer, etc, although the only edits that the IP 64.90.92.236 made were on V-Dash's userpage and user talk page. That IP address has also been warned on this. MelicansMatkin 23:54, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Metric and his sidekick Action/Lufia have been vandalizing my profile. You can't give geeks access to a computer as they speak in their own language when dealing with computers.

Personal attacks

You've been warned, over and over again, about personal attacks, but you've continued to do so here and here. If I catch one more whiff of this, you will be blocked. -- RG 00:49, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

I'll vouche for the first one, but the second is entirely this site's fault. If you want me to stop attacking them, then tell those guys to quit vandalizing my profile.

Enough. You are both at fault here for your comments towards each other. You don't need a reason to stop attacking them, just do it. Stop antagonizing them and they will return the favour. MelicansMatkin 02:58, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Serebii.net Reference

Instead of arguing in another edit war, I thought I would bring the issue to your awareness here. The problem with using Serebii.net is that it is a fansite, and fansites are not considered to be a reliable source for an article. The problem with Pokemon is that most of the information is not cited by reliable sources. This is one reason why it is so hard to reference the Pokemon articles. It is the same with all of the major Pokemon fansites; Bulbapedia, Poke Beach, and Serebii are only a few of the fansites that are frequently cited, by new editors. Unfortunately, because of their fansite status, their references all have to be removed where possible. MelicansMatkin 03:14, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Understood, but why is Bulbapedia on the reference list?

On the article itself, or on the references that can't be used? If it is used in the article itself, it shouldn't be. It's likely that it was added as a temporary measure until a more useable source could be found. If you're asking why it can't be used as a reference it's because no matter how professional it is (and no matter how much I wish it could be used as a reference), it is still a fansite. It's very difficult to find any useable references for the Pokemon articles, exclusing Pokemon.com (which often doesn't contain the needed information anyways). For information on individual Pokemon, it's the games and handbooks that have to be used. For the characters we have to use the games and the episodes. It's a very tedious process! MelicansMatkin 04:03, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

Pokémon Diamond and Pearl

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Pokémon Diamond and Pearl. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. -- ReyBrujo 04:46, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Why do you insist on not DISCUSSING things on the talk page? You would save yourself a lot of grief if you did. Are you that stubborn? -Sukecchi 11:16, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Let me guess, you reversed the edit? Well Suke, for one thing, POKEMON DIAMOND IS A DAMN RPG!!!!!!! Just because a select few of you hate to see that doesn't mean Pokemon isn't an RPG.V-Dash 14:28, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

We understand that its an rpg, a Console RPG is till an RPG. THe only reason gamesites just call it an RPG is because its easier. The Placebo Effect 14:47, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

It'd be simpler to call it an RPG, which is what all official sites do. V-Dash 14:57, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

This is such a pointless edit war. A console RPG is still an RPG, it's just being specific. I don't understand what this furor is all about. Just leave it at console RPG. For example, fish is very generalized. A shark is more specific but still pretty general. Do we call a Tiger shark a fish? Yes, it's a type of fish, but most people will still call it a shark. All we're doing by calling it a shark is being nmore specific than just calling it a fish. MelicansMatkin 15:17, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

People wouldn't be as pissed with you if you discussed these changes on the talk page, but you instate countless edit wars by doing as you please. It's not helpful and it needs to STOP. -Sukecchi 16:03, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Suke, things would be peachy if you weren't so sensitive to every bloody thing. Anyhow, fish =/= games. Traditional genres used today are Action, Adventure, RPG, FPS, Platform, Puzzle, Fighting, and Simulators. Pokemon is an RPG. If you guys are going to call it a console RPG, then you need to have evidence other than the contradictory statements here.V-Dash 20:06, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

(the last time it was put here, it was only your second revert, since you've reverted since then: You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors.

Stop attacking other editors

V-Dash, did you even read what A. Exeunt posted? It applies to you too. Just accept that consensus is against you. Stop attacking other editors. If you want to contribute to Misplaced Pages, the first step is in treating other editors politely. I suggest that you read WP:Etiquette, WP:POINT, WP:Civility, WP:Consensus, WP:NPA, and WP:DR. You have gone against every single one of these policies, and if you expect anyone to respect your opinions you need to follow them first. MelicansMatkin 20:27, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

You're the last to talk as the lot of you have contradicted your supposed ideas. I suggest you to read up on who owns Pokemon and who doesn't.V-Dash 01:28, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

We have all tried to treat you politely and with courtesy, and yet you have done nothing but attack and insult everyone who tries to discuss the matter with you. I honestly have no real opinion on whether to keep it as "Console RPG" or change it to "RPG". My concern is with your conduct towards other editors. MelicansMatkin 01:47, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

I haven't attacked anyone. I merely responded with an aggressive voice. V-Dash 01:48, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

If you were to read the pages that I linked to above, you would see that an "agressive voice" is frowned upon on Misplaced Pages. MelicansMatkin 01:58, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Then perhaps you lot need to stop contradicting your words. V-Dash 02:03, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Please explain what "we lot" have contradicted. In any case, "contradiction" (if it has happened) does not justify a violation of Misplaced Pages policy. MelicansMatkin 02:04, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for confirming. Polite? Bs. Contradictory isn't polite. You lot attacked me when I said Zelda was an RPG since Nintendo called it an Adventure game. Well Nintendo ALSO calls Pokemon an RPG, yet you lot are whining because I proved you wrong.V-Dash 04:23, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. MASEM 00:05, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war according to the reverts you have made on Pokémon Diamond and Pearl. Note that the three-revert rule prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring, even if they do not technically violate the three-revert rule. If you continue, you may be blocked from editing. Please do not repeatedly revert edits, but use the talk page to work towards wording and content that gains a consensus among editors. -- The Placebo Effect 01:27, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Blocked

-Jéské 02:15, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

I have extended your block to 10 days for circumventing your block as User:DOTEmerzon. -Jéské 01:51, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Your Userpage

I have fully protected your userpage to keep it from being vandalized. If you want it unprotected, email me or contact me on my userpage with this account. -Jéské 05:20, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, but I prefer it to be protected.V-Dash (talk) 19:27, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Alright. Do you want me to semi-protect the page when the current full-protection ends? -Jéské 22:52, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

That'll be good. V-Dash (talk) 23:47, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

The Laws of Dashism

As you can plainly see, I have a newfound passion in Dashism. Dashism is my ideal philosophy. It's more philosophy than religion. It's a way of thinking and interpreting details.

Now, I will point out the common buffoons that are basically agents against Dashism.

-Personal attack edited out by -Jéské

Tune in next time as I provided the name of another agent against Dashism. V-Dash (talk) 06:21, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Watch it, Dash. -Jéské 06:23, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Aww come on, that person's not even a user here...V-Dash (talk) 03:08, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

It's still a personal attack. -Jéské 03:09, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

How so? V-Dash (talk) 04:08, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

It disparages its subject. -Jéské 04:24, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

But but...how can there be a subject if there is no subject? V-Dash (talk) 05:49, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

It was referring to a person (which is a valid subject). The fact he's not a Misplaced Pages user is immaterial. -Jéské 06:58, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

The Laws of Dashism, Pt 2

Welcome to another edition of "The Laws of Dashism" by V-Dash. The only thing you need to know about Dashism is that I am always right. NEVER argue the facts down for you won't be able to comprehend them.

Dashism uses clear, concise English unlike someone I know. Yes, they use English, but in a poorly structured form. He tried to blame it on speaking French, but I merely lmao in my apartment. Quite the shame I'd say.

Anyhow, tune in next time to another edition of "The Laws of Dashism." V-Dash 15:28, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

I wasn't aware that you could use wikipedia as a personal blog for self-boasting and to laugh at other users, named or not. --Celedh 18:58, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Well, it IS my own personal talk page, so yes, I can use it as my own personal blog. Dashism has its antagonists. V-Dash 19:10, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Actually, Misplaced Pages is not a blog. People are looking the other way at this because you have mainspace contribs. Might I suggest moving this section and the one above it to your userpage when the protection is reduced to semi? -Jéské 19:21, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

-- I'm sorry, but you are wrong. Read up on Misplaced Pages:User_page. I do believe you're rapidly falling into the "What may I not have on my user page?" category. --Celedh 19:23, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Ah, but this isn't merely a Misplaced Pages article ;)V-Dash 19:46, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

-- Uhm, I do not think that Misplaced Pages really cares that it is the Pope, Burger King or Queen of Nebraska that edits user pages, it still falls under the same rules. --Celedh 19:53, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Celedh, you're looking pretty suspect - you've only edited V-Dash's page(s), as have a lot of the account that have been harassing him. Although you have a point, I would like to ask, when are you going to work on mainspace articles? -Jéské 20:03, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

I am sorry that I could not bring any contributions to Misplaced Pages as of now. I consider Misplaced Pages to be a great source of unbiased truth and information, and I am a frequent browser of articles on it. To contribute, I would need to bring information that are not already mentionned here, which in the articles I've scanned, seen nothing I could contribute to.

I will admit I have found this user page over a month ago due to mentions on another site, and only decided today to write here to bring this to his attention. Dash also has been in the center of many many arguments on many many different forums where he has displayed the same unwillingness to follow rules, general concensus or simple logic.

I will continue to support Misplaced Pages, but not editors that will go against general concensus and use it as a medium for self-promotion or degarding other users even indirectly. Harassing for the sake of harassing is not in my intentions. --Celedh 20:39, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Aww, come on Jesske. What's wrong with a small little blog? And Celed, I don't even know who you are...V-Dash 20:42, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Notice that some of this section has been removed by another user. I'm not the only one here who objects to you using your Misplaced Pages talk page as a blog (which it is not). -Jéské 08:30, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

O_O!!! Jeseke, someone vandalized my entry on my talk page...V-Dash 14:19, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

You got Blogged

-Trolling site link removed by Jéské

My new spot for expressing my views on a few key users...*hint* *hint*

Text removed by -Jéské At least you recognize that Misplaced Pages is not blog and have decided to take your malicious rants elsewhere. MelicansMatkin 17:57, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

So...can I breathe while posting on Misplaced Pages?V-Dash 04:47, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

The Blog

The blog is currently being harassed. V-Dash 15:02, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

I have removed the link; the spirit (unlike the words) of Misplaced Pages:Harassment and Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Attack sites is clear that links to stuff like your blog is grossly inappropriate here and anathema to what Misplaced Pages considers holy (the community). I will also, however, ask for a checkuser to see if this is the same person(s) who kept attacking your userpage.

And here's a note to all parties: WIKIPEDIA IS NOT BLOOD GULCH! -Jéské 10:39, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Ever notice, everywhere Dash goes theirs a battle? DO you think its a coincidence, or that it might be time to ban him for his numerous personal attacks and just polluting the atmosphere of wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.159.136.104 (talk) 17:29, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

That's because there are people following him everywhere - I just indefed someone who was a sock and who had the blog linked on his userpage. However, what I said above applies to all parties here: V-Dash, if you retaliate against your detractors on Misplaced Pages I will block, and if any of V-Dash's detractors show up using sockpuppets (i.e. Dash Jr (talk · contribs)) or otherwise, I will block them as well. Misplaced Pages is not a battlefield. You want to fight, go on 4chan and flame each other, but not here. -Jéské 20:02, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Well said. MelicansMatkin 20:51, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

So, what CAN we do on Misplaced Pages?V-Dash (talk) 05:29, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Edit articles, discuss content, report people who replace Bulbasaur with penises. The ArbCom has passed cases that have banned those who bring external disputes onto Misplaced Pages. -Jéské 05:59, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Ah, but User Talk pages =/= articles. So the rules are different ;) V-Dash (talk) 16:21, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Actually, the rules are not different. The only difference is that article talk pages are used to work on articles, and user talk pages are used to comment on contributions, as well as ask questions if the user has made a puzzling edit. MelicansMatkin (talk) 16:30, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Talk page = talk page. I see nothing that says such in the title.V-Dash (talk) 16:37, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Melican is correct: See WP:TALK and WP:USER and read through them. Both of them. I am done assuming good faith with you after this incident and the back-and-forth on Talk:Pokémon Diamond and Pearl. -Jéské 18:48, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

But I was merely putting two and two together Jeske.V-Dash (talk) 19:14, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

On Talk:D&P, you were putting 2 and 3 together to get 4. Here, you posted a link to an attack site which I removed. Whatever good faith I had in you or your enemies is at nil. If you hadn't noticed, my tone has changed considerably from just after your block until I removed the attack site. -Jéské 19:20, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

It is not logically possible to put two and three together to pull four as a solution. Anyhow, what tone? Your tone is as the same as it has been. Sure, I may have been harsh with my blog, but then again, it was removed, so no hard feelings. And why are you so heated about DnD?V-Dash (talk) 19:27, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

I am heated about things people can't grasp despite being told 500 times what it actually is because they already have an idea in their minds of what it should be. See also the Serebii 4th-gen incident earlier this year. Further, the tone of my writing has soured considerably because of the fact you posted an attack site and the fact that you instigated harassment thru Misplaced Pages. -Jéské 19:41, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Well you try and have people stalk and harass you on Misplaced Pages then. Just because you're an admin doesn't mean you aren't still a user. Anyhow, you were the one who told me to take it to a blog. In essence, it was your idea, not mine. No, your tone has soured every since the DnD incident.V-Dash (talk) 19:51, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

I said "Make a blog." I didn't say "Link to it." Oh, and, V-Dash? I have. -Jéské 19:59, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

But you NEVER said don't link to it. Loopholes are wonderful.V-Dash (talk) 20:03, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

What loopholes? -Jéské 20:05, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Technically, it's a BLOG. V-Dash (talk) 20:06, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

It's still a website. Polish bird splay; it's still bird splay.-Jéské 20:10, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

No, it's a blog ON a website. You NEVER said to NOT link to the blog.V-Dash (talk) 01:09, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Blogs and websites are indistinguishable in Wikipedians' eyes. If I didn't remove it, someone else would have. -Jéské 01:35, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

That is not the point Jeske.V-Dash (talk) 01:41, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Actually, that *is* the point. Linking to (or attempting to link to) a blog or forum that harasses others is just as bad as attempting to link to Encyclopedia Dramatica (which is blacklisted and link-disabled). -Jéské 01:43, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Then, in that case Jeske, 95% of all links on Misplaced Pages should be terminated. Like the links to GameFAQs where trolling and flaming are at their peaks. So are you saying we should eleminate GameFAQs then?V-Dash (talk) 06:07, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

GameFAQs should not even be used as a source, since it is not reputable. Yes, those links should be removed. MelicansMatkin (talk) 12:07, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Tell me where the GFAQ forum links are. -Jéské 15:25, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

GameFAQs articleV-Dash 02:35, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

That's allowed per WP:SELFPUB. Try again. -Jéské 04:58, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

But it's a breeding ground of flaming.V-Dash 05:31, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Does it link to a specific thread perpetrating flaming? -Jéské 05:35, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Not the point.V-Dash 15:53, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

That's exactly the point. As Jéské already pointed out, it is allowed under WP:SELFPUB. Those links donot lead to a thread filled with flaming and/or trolling, and there are no grounds to remove them. MelicansMatkin (talk) 16:59, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

D&D Debate (Brought over from Talk:Pokemon Diamond and pearl)

Dungeons and Dragons you say? Well....it's a board game ala more in the Heroclix style. I don't know. BUT, Nintendo says "RPG."V-Dash 15:30, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Dungeons & Dragons is not a board game, rather, it's an RPG as well (I know because I play D&D and make custom material for it). So sayeth its producer, Wizards of the Coast. Now, the question is, are they RPGs of the same ilk? Any true gamer will tell you they are not - While D&D has video game adaptations, they almost universally say the paper-and-pen version is far superior to, say, Eye of the Beholder or Neverwinter Nights. They will also tell you D&D is a P&PRPG, and Pokemon is a JRPG (or "Console RPG"). -Jéské 19:49, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Oh Jese, you're cute when you're trying to dissect my points ;) Anyhow, I'm not a DnD fan so I can't say much. But what I can say is that an RPG is an RPG.V-Dash 01:30, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

So you're saying that differentiating P&PRPGs (such as Dungeons & Dragons and Shadowrun) from JRPGs (Final Fantasy, Pokémon Diamond & Pearl) is useless? And before you start saying Shadowrun isn't an RPG, follow the wikilink and Cubone up on it. Do the same for D&D. -Jéské 03:01, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

I am merely saying that a board game can not be used as a basis for determining a genre for video gamingV-Dash (talk) 05:30, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Bullshit. I will repeat myself: D&D is *not* a board game, it is an RPG. In fact, a board is completely unnecessary to play the game, and it has been that way since it was first publiched in the 70's. Do you actually read Wikilinks, or are you so high-and-mighty with your POV that everyone else can just autof******? -Jéské 05:56, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

OK, this is the last time I am going to explain this. A Console RPG must meet two requirements:

1. It must be an RPG.
2. It must be playable on a Video game Console

Now V-Dash, the reason Nintendo does not label its games as "Console RPGs" is for a very simple reason, ALL THEY SELL ARE VIDEO GAMES. The only way to play a video game is on a video game CONSOLE. And yes, The DS is a Video Game console. This is the logic everyone else who is editing this article is using. Since it is obvious that you are Adamant in your beliefs and the rest of us are Adamant in ours, consensus is not going to shift either way, so could we please stop bringing this issue up? because all it does is create more arguments on the talk page when we should be spending time working on making the encyclopedia better. Perhaps voting in AFDs or reverting vandalism. But could we please stop bringing this topic up because I am getting tired of seeing this talk page on my watchlist when it it clear neither side is changing it's views and consensus is clearly with one side. --The Placebo Effect (talk) 08:09, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

A recent comment he made on his talk page suggests to me that he either thinks Misplaced Pages is a Presidential debate or a place to attack his foes. I have warned him that Misplaced Pages is not a war zone already in no uncertain terms. -Jéské 08:58, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Spare me the nonsense. Oh Jeske, why is an admin cussing a storm? Anyhow, DnD is a BOARD GAME. A BOARD GAME does not set up the basis for genre in games. If you honestly think DnD is an RPG, then so is Monopoly. So is Mouse Trap. I can go on forever. Just because Pokemon doesn't have fairies, overrated comic book action, etc. doesn't mean it can not be an RPG. Games like Heroclix, Heroscape(or w/e the hell it's name is), and etc. are board games.V-Dash (talk) 16:25, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

D&D is not a board game, for the last time. There is a severe difference between a board game and games like D&D, Kobolds Ate My Baby!, Shadowrun, etc. And just because it lacks those things doesn't mean it isn't an RPG (Console or otherwise) of any ilk. See also Diablo II. Go away until you start having something smart to say and until you're finished reiterating points that have already been defeated. Next! -Jéské 18:43, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

If it's played on a board, then it's a board game. If it's sold among other board games, then it is a board game. Only difference between DnD and a game like Monopoly is that fans go gooing and awing over dragons and wizards and they devote all of their life into it.V-Dash (talk) 19:18, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

D&D is not played on a board - as a DM of two years, I know for a fact that the closest thing D&D players ever get to a board are grids, and that is only if they are using minis. And if they devote their whole life to it, tell me, why I am editing Misplaced Pages and tell me why I even bothered to apply for Adminship in October? I will also say, right here and now, that neither KAMB not Shadowrun use minis and can't be called "board games" by any stretch of the imagination. -Jéské 19:23, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Your point? Monopoly can be played on the computer and gaming consoles, yet it is a BOARD game at heart. Anyhow, I never said you devoted your entire time to DnD. I merely said some fans do. Hence why I am a harsh critic when it comes to franchises like DnD. It's just a mere board game. V-Dash (talk) 19:30, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

It was never designed as a board game, V-Dash, and it is not classified as a board game - it is classified as an RPG. Push a POV often enough and you'll find twenty-plus Yahtzee Croshaw voices cussing you out as if you were F.E.A.R. Perseus Mandate. I have a question: Have you actually taken the time to so much as watch a campaign in progress? -Jéské 19:36, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

I can think of 50 things I rather be doing than to watch a game such as that Jeske. Anyhow, I thought you weren't a "hard fan?" Them cussing me out wold only show how sad their addiction is. Anyhow, RPGs started out on board games, thus they are board games. Anyhow, Yahtzee and DnD aren't any different other than one is about dragons and the other is about words. V-Dash (talk) 19:39, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Wrongo; Chainmail (D&D's ancestor) was a miniatures game that didn't use a board. And I am a hard fan - I create custom content using Pokémon and Neopets, for Nerull's sake! And I was not referring to the game Yahtzee, I was referring to the Escapist's new game columnist, Ben "Yahtzee" Croshaw. -Jéské 19:45, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

And how am I supposed to know which Yahtzee you are referring to? I do not play DnD or anything of the sort. You just said you weren't a hard fan, yet you turn around and say you are a hard fan? Anyhow, just because you use Pokemon and Neopets to make content does not mean anything.V-Dash (talk) 19:53, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Yahtzee, if you'd read his article, focuses on video games. I did not say I wasn't a hard fan - you merely assumed I wasn't. I'm just not an obsessive fan. I do create balanced custom material - which is a nice little timesink and near-impossible for the hard fan to do. Oh, and could you please read the words on each side of a word? If you did, the word "Croshaw" after the first mention of Yahtzee in this thread would have told you I was referring to a person. -Jéské 19:58, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

So you expected me to know all of that terminology especially since I do not play DnD? What does this all have to do with the fact that it's nothing but a mere board game with silly faieries and monsters?V-Dash (talk) 20:04, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Pokemon also has monsters and fairies, if egg-groups are to be believed. Did you know that Pikachu is in the Fairy egg group, and did you know Clefairy and Clefable have the "Fairy" classification in the Pokedex? -Jéské 20:08, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

But you don't see fanboys swooning over Pikachu and spending 1000+ hours trying to play out a work old a board. 01:09, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Ever seen AGNPH, where Pikachu is actually sexualized (as are almost every other species of Pokémon)? And are you aware there are actually competitive tournaments for Pokémon and a tankerload of sites devoted to competitive battling?-Jéské 01:40, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Because in this day and age, thanks to Wifi and iPod, it's not really a problem to play Pokemon online as much as it's a problem playing with toys on a boardgame.V-Dash (talk) 01:42, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

I am starting to lose my patience with you. I dare you to go wo WP:D&D, WP:RPG, or Talk:Dungeons & Dragons and call D&D a board game. See if they think it's funny. I sure as hell do not appreciate the fact you have selective reading skills and are completely disregarding every counterpoint made. You remind me of User:NYScholar. -Jéské 01:46, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

I wasn't aware that Pokemon could be played online through an iPod. MelicansMatkin (talk) 01:47, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

It can't. -Jéské 01:48, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Not according to V-Dash: thanks to Wifi and iPod, it's not really a problem to play Pokemon online, =P MelicansMatkin (talk) 01:54, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

I think the iPod is to listen to helpful tips from William Shatner. :P -Jéské 02:30, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

I never said Pokemon can be played on the iPod. You assumed I did. Anyhow, Jeske, are you, an admin, suggesting me to go over to DnD Talk page and call it a board game, despite it being one? Aren't admin's supposed to KEEP trouble from happening? I mean, why should you care in the initial? Is it killing your love for the game if I call DnD a Board game?V-Dash (talk) 06:09, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

You calling D&D a board game is like Cheney with a gun - you're going to eventually end up hurting your case or your friends. Besides, the people at Talk:Dungeons & Dragons are actually very civilized compared to most other articles.

As I referred you there, I am not going to touch the section. -Jéské 06:19, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

And Wyatt Riot answered your question. -Jéské 15:27, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Indeed he did, yet it doesn't change the fact that DnD is a board game.V-Dash 02:35, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Actually, four users (myself included) are now saying that, in re D&D, you're flat-out wrong. I see more and more of a tendentious nature from you every second. -Jéské 05:03, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

You see what in me? Sophisticated vocabulary won't change the fact that DnD is a Board game.V-Dash 05:30, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Again, it is not a board game. And read this for an idea of what I'm talking about. You've got a lot of people against you saying that 1) D&P is a CRPG; 2) D&D is a P&PRPG. Further, last I checked, board games don't require lots of books. -Jéské 19:40, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

I am not oblivious to all he's done here. However, I can easily find admins who are willing to block if I point out all his contributions (I can't because he'd scream admin abuse). As it is, he's skating on thin ice, even assuming good faith. -Jéské 23:13, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

So you're going to block me for you causing a stir on my page? You gonna block me for saying DnD is a Board game?V-Dash 01:56, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

AN/I

This post is to inform you that there is a thread regarding your behavior at Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#V-Dash. -Jéské 23:26, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

That's admin abuse Jeske.V-Dash 01:57, 8 December 2007 (UTC)