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Rubén

No need to shout! I undid your change about Ruben because you didn't enter any source for that information. If you have a source, please renter the information with the source. Thanks. --ClaudioMB 20:35, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Look, there is no need to call anyone stupid, I'm not here to fight anyone. I've changed what you enter only because you didn't inputed a source. Maybe I should have asked you for the source before changing it. For that, I apologize. And yes, today a I saw the source there, but, I'm letting you reenter the information with that source. The information you enter originally still there only with a , I never deleted it. Please, you don't need to ask anyone to enter a valid sourced information, just do it. I hope this ends peacefully. Thanks. --ClaudioMB 01:53, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

It's OK mate, it's just that I was very surprised how you didn't see the source, I thought someone who edits Barca's articles visits the main article everyday and the source was there. Together we can work more on the article, like fix the Racing de Ferrol thing and probably add all the Primera Division fixtures (you've only added Racing and Bilbao).

Bardhylius 14:43, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Ok. I've entered the Ruben's information. By the way, since English is not my first language, I have a question for you. Should the articles use "Loaned out" or "Loaned" is just fine?--ClaudioMB 15:05, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Loaned out is better because you're referring to a particular club, i.e. Loaned out to Racing de Ferrol but the main status is regarded as "Loaned out".

P.S. Do you think we should put the exact month of transfer instead of just 'Summer'. e.g. Ruben's transfer in August 2007. And what about adding more staff members (Other information) like Ferran Soriano, Marc Ingla etc.? What about the full La Liga fixture?

Bardhylius 16:33, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

So, I guess I'll change the Loaned status to Loaned out in other articles. There are a few article using the same lay-out as Barcelona. About the transfer, I try to not overwhelm and crowned the article with information. I believe when there is too much information a reader loses what's important. I even reduce the letter size in order to not crowned too much the table. I not quite sure, but I think the month the player was transfered instead of the window will not make much difference. In the end, Summer, July or August means the player will play for that team in the begin of the season and Winter or January will mean the player will play for the 2nd half of the season. Maybe you could open this discussion in the article's talk, to get opinion from others. About staff, if you think they are important staff member and you have the source, please add them. About the fixture, I just didn't have the time to finish. I'll do it later or if you want to enter some. Regards.--ClaudioMB 18:56, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the good response. You highlighted some good points about my suggestions. Let's keep it that way. I'm now going to get the adequate information to write about board members. By the way, do you use Messenger? An instant-messaging contact would be better. Bardhylius 20:58, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

I think the best place to discuss articles' issue is on the articles' talk. That way, other people could input their ideas and any decision we take after a discussion will be archived and later if someone else has questions about why the article is that way it could be found there. Like the one about Loaned or Loaned out, or Summer or month. So, I'd like to invade you to stop talk here and start talk in the articles' talk. By the way, since English is your first language, when you find any possible grammatical improvement on the article, please, fix it. Lots of editors, like myself, are not the best English writers. Regards --ClaudioMB 01:20, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

No English isn't my first language but I'll do my best to fix any grammatical errors. Bardhylius 14:12, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

Manual of Style for club season articles

As you have often contribute to club season articles, I believe this and this are pretty much of your interest.--ClaudioMB 15:52, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:Gerimalaj.jpg)

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Civility

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Prose for FC Barcelona's season

Since you have contribute so much for FC Barcelona 2007-08 season, could you help on this. Regards. --ClaudioMB 07:18, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Barcelona's 2007-08 star formation

Hi, I've created this sub-page to keep track of the start formation of FC Barcelona in 2007-08. I've done this based on watching the games on TV. If you have time, it'll be good if you could check if I made any mistake. Also, in the time to come, you could enter the formation or check what I'll enter. Thanks in advance. --ClaudioMB 23:43, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the changes and you're right, I'll improve that page to a table format, that will be much better. I have seen that first team line-up in the official web site, but there is no formation (like 4-3-3) or players' position. Did I miss something else? Also, I'll try write some prose for each section (I did already for overall competition), if you could, when I enter them, check for any mistake or if you could improve them, that would be a great help. Thanks in advance. --ClaudioMB 01:19, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

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Skanderberg

Standard also means the same as "estandarte" in Spanish. I think the wording made sense as it was. Regards, Asterion 16:59, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

I'm not sure what you mean. If you're thinking about the word "standard", then you've got me wrong. The article says Scanderbeg uses the standard flag on his return. What is standard? It is null for a user. You can not describe things in that way. I'm sure every user was caught in surprise: "So wich is the standard flag?". That was my idea about it. Wiki is an information center giving you details from scratch. Articles shouldn't be based on the assumption that you already know about the subject. Bardhylius 21:25, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi Bardhylius, Standard also means a type of flag or ensign (i.e. a flag or banner carried by military units). I think this is what this is what meant by the original editor. See its entry in wiktionary for more details. Regards, --Asterion 21:50, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Then I can humbly say that I didn't know this. I'll revert the edit to its original. Many thanks for the note! Bardhylius 22:03, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks very much. Sorry it took me so long to reply. Regards, Asterion 00:40, 6 November 2007 (UTC)

Hi there

--ΛэтєяиuS 13:55, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Personal remark or attack

I advise you not to do such attacks (accusing me of xenophobia is rather rude). See more at: Misplaced Pages:Civility --TheFEARgod (Ч) 00:04, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

How about your accusations against BanatFree at the very same place? See more at Hypocrisy. Bardhylius 17:46, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

well, those accusations were not personal attacks, like yours, but expressions of being offended. Again, I encourage you to refrain from personal attacks, as that could be strictly sanctioned here. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 22:05, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

I don't see how calling someone "Serbophobic" isn't personal offense while calling someone "xenophobic" is? What's more, you implied a rather, bossy, attitude towards the user and that is more than a personal attack. Instead I encourage you to stay within the line of civility or I will have to report you to the administrators. Bardhylius 22:12, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

November 2007

Bardhylius (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))

Request reason:

First of all, I didn't know about the 3RR rule. Second, I was the first to propose that the article is left like it is, and that we discuss any changes before making them. None of the users (theFEARgod and Medule) agreed and they kept changing it, usually without replying in the talk page first. I think you should remove all of our edit blocks, and participate in our discussion so that it is as valid as possible from your point of view as an administrator. The article will be left like it was in the first place (without the "genocide" claim) and as soon as we reach an agreement, we can make the changes we have agreed on. Bardhylius (talk) 22:14, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Decline reason:

You have been an editor for over a year. I find it hard to believe that you know nothing of 3RR or of edit waring. Let your block expire and chalk it up to experience. We will see what happens at the article after that. — JodyB _talk 22:26, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

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Wow, honestly I am surprised by your reply. I expected it to be more positive. If I knew the rule I would not revert anything because I'd know I would only get myself a block. I would rather search for the interference from an administrator, like I did here. Anyway, let's just wait for the expiry then. Bardhylius (talk) 00:17, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Greater Albania

I had been encouraged by the improved sense of working together since the protection lifted at Greater Albania. I was a little disturbed by some comments I received this morning (in USA) on my talk page. I have suggested to your fellow editor that he refrain from adding what I felt was POV statements about the persecution of people into this article. You reverted it and I asked him to let it go. But I would also encourage you to better temper your replies to him. Please remember to "attack the edits, not the editor." As always, I am happy to assist in any way possible. Thanks! JodyB _talk 13:09, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Many thanks for the understanding. I am open to any discussion in the talk page and a successful editing involves resolving disputes first and then making changes to the article. As I said in your talk page, TheFEARgod rushed to change the article several times without even looking for an agreement first. Bardhylius (talk) 13:28, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

SKËNDERBEU

Edhe unë e kam përshtypjen që artikulli mbi Skënderbeun le shumë për të dëshiruar. Janë shumë burime të cilat nuk janë paraqitur, për të mos thënë që janë deformuar. Unë kam disa libra për Skënderbeun por e keqja është që nuk mund as t'i skanoj e t'i hedh në rrjet sepse kështu mund të shkel të drejtën e autorit e të publikimit. Desha të shtoj gjithashtu se dhe Fan Noli ka bërë një libër shumë të bukur për historinë e Skënderbeut dhe mund të them që libri i Kristo Frashërit është pak a shumë në atë linjë, vetëm që përmban më shumë detaje e referenca që nuk diheshin në kohën e Nolit. Pra mund të përdorësh këtë libër të Nolit. Mirë do ishtë që këta libra të ishin online në variantin anglisht. Ashtu si dhe historitë e Barletit dhe Muzakës etj. Nëse ke nevojë për ndonjë ndihmë të caktuar për referenca ose ndonjë gjë tjetër për historinë e Shqipërisë mund të më drejtohesh kur të duash, pasi kam shumë njohuri dhe libra në këtë drejtim. Adresa ime është endritafani@gmail.com Gjithë të mirat dhe mirëundjefshim. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aigest (talk • contribs) 13:50, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Faleminderit shume per ndihmen tuaj. Mendoj se se pari duhet te krijohet nje grup i caktuar i redaktoreve, e pastaj te hartohet nje plan paraprak per dukjen e pergjithshme te artikullit te heroit tone kombetare. Une po pres qe me shume Shqiptar dhe te huaj tjere qe e njohin historine e tij te kyqen ne diskutim keshtuqe qe te mund te identifikoj personat paraprak qe jane te gatshem per ndihmen e reformimit te artikullit, ashtu siq je paraqitur ti. Numroj ne ndihmen tende dhe shpresoj qe se shpejti ta redaktojme artikullin ashtu si e meriton. Bardhylius (talk) 13:56, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Në rregull, pa problem, më ke gati. Nuk e di nëse ke dijeni për këtë link Mund të them që informacioni në atë website është përgjithësisht i saktë, pa ekzagjerime dhe mund të përdoret si skelet në shumë artikuj për Shqipërinë. E keqja është se i mungojnë referencat dhe varianti në anglisht (mangësi e autorit, si gjithmonë do dallohemi:)). Edhe njëherë gjithë të mirat. Aigest (talk) 15:59, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

you have my suport. LONG LIVE INDEPENDENT KOSOVA

when yur solved the status of Vojvodina will start to be solved. All regions under Serbian occupation will be liberated. B-H will have to unite, genocidal Republika Srpska cant exist. And as we can see Serbian propaganda is dying in Montenegro.

LONG LIVE VOJVODINA AND BANAT!!! --BanatFree (talk) 21:21, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

Revert warring advice

Hi,

You have been reverting quite a lot at Greater Albania lately. Please consider this a friendly warning that revert warring, whether slow or fast, is viewed dimly. Please also note that discretionary sanctions can be applied to any editor of Balkans-related articles who fails to adhere to the purpose of Misplaced Pages, expected standards of behaviour or normal editorial process. I am not accusing you of having done so, but please bear in mind that the Balkans is an inflammatory topic and should be treated with care and an extra dose of cool-headedness. Stifle (talk) 15:58, 8 December 2007 (UTC)