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RE:User:Libertyville/GOP

I only did it once, sorry. The image put in place of it was just awful. I guess I'll just delete my copy of it now. But I have a question: If the image does not follow fair use policy then why is it still being used on the Republican Party page?--Lucky Mitch (talk) 23:13, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

Recent image removals.

For what it's worth, I don't agree with your recent removal of images from various list articles. Rather than revert immediately, this issue is important enough that it should probably be discussed on the policy pages. I've opened a thread at Wikipedia_talk:Non-free content#Character images and lists..

You removed some images in my user page and in a box I created wrt the "fair use image policy". Those institutions (Royal Aeronautical Society and Imperial College) accept their logos to be used for such things (they are not private enterprises). I'll put them back later. Escorial82 (talk) 11:19, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

OK, I understand, I won't put them again. Thanks for the explanation Escorial82 13:26, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

The images are removed and I understand. Could you please remove from my userpage the "speedy deletion" infobox? Thanks Escorial82 13:32, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

Image removals from character lists

Hi, I was the one who reverted your edits to the List of Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic characters which you subsequently reinstated. To me it seems that the page you link to is just a discussion between five or six individual editors who agree on the particular subject and just start boldly removing content from various articles. But is it official policy and is it inherently bad to have fair use media on pages where images with free licenses are impossible to obtain? You don't offer any alternative or explanation on the talk page on the subject, I know from you userpage that you're against Fair Use, but you might make your reasons for opposing Fair Use more clear. As such, I think the mass removal of character images is a bit too bold. But maybe I'm totally in the wrong here, I'm not too familiar with the legal issues regarding copyblight. mensch • t 00:33, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

• The discussion there has the links needed to educate an editor on the relevant policies and discussions. It's not prohibiting fair use. It's putting it in its proper place, as per the edict of the Foundation (see Foundation:Resolution:Licensing policy). --Hammersoft 02:31, 1 December 2007 (UTC)

Cease and desist

You have been removing images from lists of characters. Please stop.

You claim they are not acceptable under WP:NFCC. Upon reading WP:NFCC#9, it states that non-free content is permitted only in articles (not disambiguation pages), and only in article namespace, subject to exemptions. Lists are articles and the images are not being used for "decorative" purposes, they are to enhance the article and make it more encyclopedic. The images are given fair use which under WP:NFCC, is permitted on Misplaced Pages when a free equivlent is unavaliable. Most video game related images are copyrighted, therefore it is almost impossible to find a free equivilent for them.

You also cite Misplaced Pages talk:Non-free content#Character images and lists as an example of your claim. All I see is a debate with around three or four of the participating editors agreeing on the same subject as you. There is nothing set in stone, no official policy against the use of fair use images provided they are suitable for purpose, used correctly and have a proper fair use rationale. These images, most notably on this page and this page are under suitable fair use and are permitted to be used on those pages and on Misplaced Pages.

.:Alex:. 22:54, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

• I have no intention of "ceasing and desisting". The Foundation has taken a very strong stance against over use of fair use images. Please see Foundation:Resolution:Licensing policy. The Foundation is above you. It's above me. It's about any admin here on Misplaced Pages. It's above ArbCom. It's above everybody. If you do not like the removal of such images, I strongly, strongly urge you to take this matter up with them. Thank you, --Hammersoft (talk) 03:09, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Well then delete a few, don't go and delete all of the images Ctjf83 18:54, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

List of recurring characters from The Simpsons now only has nine images, and I could easily trim some more if you like. However, there are several featured pages with that many fair use images. -- Scorpion 18:56, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

• Insufficient. If a character deserves an image, they deserve an article where the image belongs. Else, the argument they deserve a copyrighted image against our m:mission to provide a free content encyclopedia is exceptionally weak. Please cite featured pages where this sort of list has a similar circumstance as that which you left the article in. --Hammersoft (talk) 18:58, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Like I'm going to tell you, you'll just go and remove all the images. By the way, I'm fairly certain that this account is a sock of an experienced user who is hiding their identity, and apparantly that's okay, but isn't edit warring using a sock frowned upon? -- Scorpion 19:11, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
    • • A little assumption of good faith here? You'll note that I left the Simpson's article intact after your edit. Cite please? And, I'm not edit warring. There is nothing wrong with using a sock, and even less so for using a sock to uphold policy. If I was interested in edit warring, I sure as heck would self-report myself to WP:AN/I (Misplaced Pages:Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents#Edit_warring_over_removal_of_fair_use_images). --Hammersoft (talk) 19:15, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

well y didnt u do that to being with, instead of deleting all of them, and aggravating people...at the very least u could have posted it on the project page, and we could have decided which to keep and delete Ctjf83 19:14, 10 December 2007 (UTC)