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Arbcom case

I've taken the whole set of Macedonia-related edit warring to the Arbitration committee. You are named as a party to the case. Please see WP:RFAR#Macedonia. Thank you, Fut.Perf. ☼ 09:59, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

== Aegean Macedonia ==

At the end of WW2 the attempt for entering Solun and joining the Macedonian partisan groups in the Aegean failed.the Macedonian high command was imprisoned and killed by the Tito led government and the troops diverted north to Srem.

After a couple of years the Macedonians in the Aegean saw their chance in the Greek civil war, they rose up and in fanatic fighting managed to liberate the town of lerin, The Greeks surprised by the offensive seeked help from the British..they got it..dozens of villages were burned to the grown by the rain of napalm.Tens of thousands of women and children were exiled from their homes, thousands were killed while running to safety.But it didn't end here..a great number of refugees in the Vardar part of Macedonia meant a potential treat in the long run..Yugoslavia closed the borders and the rest of the refugees were scattered around the world.

this is their story...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=JBLSRBD6aLo

http://youtube.com/watch?v=o6_ZULK2nH4

http://youtube.com/watch?v=cvEcbqop3as

http://youtube.com/watch?v=7VOA5qKhlOo

--strich3D 22:40, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Why you can't accept the truth? People aren't computers, you can't delete their memory, their sufferings.--strich3D 22:48, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Say that I'm actually interested in watching the videos, how am I supposed to understand them? FYI there are some (a small minority of course) people in Greece who are not Slavomacedonians and can't understand your language :-)--   Avg    00:57, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

We can met in Lerin(Florina) and you'll how "small" is macedonian minority. With some 70% of people tehre I communicate in macedonian. In markets, restaurants,on the street. There are many people around the world who can't return to houses where they were born simply because all villages were destroyed and new were built on them settled with greeks from Turkey.--strich3D 15:42, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Did you actually read my comment? It was a humorous reply considering the language on the video! Cool down a bit... But anyway, here's your answer: Unlike you, who probably have NEVER actually been to Florina, I've been dozens of times and I KNOW. It would be REAL FUN if we actually stopped people in the street(!!!) speaking Slavic to them, especially if you label the language "Macedonian" in front of them. You know most Florina people are VERY sensitive about the Macedonian issue, exactly because you claim their city, so my guess is we could end in hospital as provocators! Honestly, where do you find such things :-) --   Avg    18:11, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Such things i find in Florina's center :). I am in Lerin(Florina) few times a year.--strich3D 18:19, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

And by the way, could you be consistent? If you don't like the Greeks calling you Skopian or Fyromian, don't call their cities Solun and Lerin, ok? --   Avg    18:24, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Macedonia

An Arbitration case involving you has been opened, and is located here. Please add any evidence you may wish the Arbitrators to consider to the evidence sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Macedonia/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Macedonia/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, Picaroon (t) 00:51, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

If you contribute to the workshop page, please user a much shorter signature. Thanks, Picaroon (t) 00:51, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

FYROM,

Firstly, they are not Europeans. Secondly they are not Greek, therefore can NEVER be Macedons.

Having this article protected has lost you, my contributions to what i now know is nothing more than propaganda crap. you have made all good information become tainted as lies, and cheap propaganda.

your site has now been blocked from my company's employees, as well as hotel guests, and our sites will from now on run permanent adverts against you. if any of our employees, are caught accessing your site in any shape or form, including company home laptops, will be fired immediately.

our contributions have been small, but i will sue you for the entire amount, in a court of Macedonia. you do not care about the minimum of accuracy. Dissemination of overtly wrong information as fact is a criminal offense.

in an american court you call call it wrong advertising, politically incorrect terminology, defamatory, and the list for precedents in such a case is extense.

if u have any legally infalible information regarding your right to use such name, please do not hesitate in correcting me, in court.

vandacordeiro@yahoo.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.72.253.190 (talk) 20:14, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

I will not remove it for the entertainment of viewers of my talk page :-) --   Avg    20:18, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

Alexis Papahelas

A new page came up on the list. The article needs everything tagged. Maybe the article should not have been created until at least some of the problems could be sorted. If you are able to sort the problems immediately, then maybe the preview button should have been used instead of save. I can assure you I am not on auto-pilot. Regards. Hammer1980· 01:27, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

You worry too much ! All can be wiped simply really. A couple of references will lose the ref tag and will establish notability. Finad a category for it to go inand thats gone too. Add the refs correclty and it will pretty much sort the wikify problem too. No bad wiki etiquette there. I will try and find a category right now. That will sort one out. Regards. Hammer1980· 01:35, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

No problem. Thats a category sorted. See where you can get a couple of references. I have never heard of him ! Regards Hammer1980· 01:39, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Great job on the article. Well Done. Hammer1980· 09:16, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah it was so bad I didn't sleep ... not ! Forget it mate. Will delete all the conversation. Regards. Hammer1980· 18:58, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced Pages:Requests for arbitration/Macedonia closed

The above arbitration case has closed, and the final decision may be found here. Any uninvolved administrator may, on their own discretion, impose sanctions on any editor working on Balkans-related articles if that editor fails to adhere to the purpose of Misplaced Pages, the expected standards of behavior, or the normal editorial process. Discretionary sanctions imposed under the provisions of this decision may be appealed to the imposing administrator, the administrators' noticeboard, or the Committee. For the Arbitration Committee, Picaroon (t) 02:34, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Previous statement

I agree it's artificial. But Bulgarians and Greeks gang up against the red team all the time, considering them mutual enemies. This "allegiance" is no less artificial. And it seems Greeks and Albanians have been doing it too. I find it very hard to believe that Greeks consider the red team their closest allies -they should, but they don't. Alex 202.10.89.28 (talk)

P.S. "South Slavs" includes Bulgarians so I was confused until I read your edit summary. Alex 202.10.89.28 (talk) 03:15, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

I think you have completely misunderstood the Greeks position against you. Nobody considers FYROM an enemy. Nobody hates you. In fact most people I know say that it's natural for you and us to be the closest allies in the region, if only you were less stubborn about the name. You've just stepped on our toe. I can guarantee that when the name issue is resolved, you will see the warmest feelings from Greece, because there's no history between us. --   Avg    03:23, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Good. And most ethnic Macedonians I know say all would be good with Greece if you were less stubborn about the name. So obviously there are two views. But that doesn't matter. When the naming dispute is resolved, all should be good. And when the Republic is integrated into the Union, you'll see a sharp turn in irredentism. Alex 202.10.89.28 (talk) 03:50, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

Ela

Can you support this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Akrotiri_and_Dhekelia#Proposed_change_of_name_for_article

We are trying to make the article more reality based and less ambiguous. Reaper7 (talk) 03:03, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

Best regards to you Greek Friend

by Macedonian citzen from Republic of Macedonia  :-) and here is a little link from Macedonians living in northen Greece many happy cheers from all of them too :-) Alex Makedon (talk) 17:21, 19 December 2007 (UTC)