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I see that you have protected Asian fetish not too long ago. ] has never been stable since the article was unprotected. ] is preventing me from deleting external links (apparently vandalism) and deleting what I think is original research. (He believes that adoption of Asian babies is linked to Asian fetish although it lacks sources.) Can you provide some comment on the talk page please? ] (]) 15:58, 23 December 2007 (UTC) | I see that you have protected Asian fetish not too long ago. ] has never been stable since the article was unprotected. ] is preventing me from deleting external links (apparently vandalism) and deleting what I think is original research. (He believes that adoption of Asian babies is linked to Asian fetish although it lacks sources.) Can you provide some comment on the talk page please? ] (]) 15:58, 23 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
:First off here are the facts: | |||
:1) This page has a clear history of vandals wanting to delete any and all content that makes this term into an obsession or something negative. | |||
:2) Saranghae honey requested that this page be deleted but that request was denied. | |||
:3) Saranghae honey have on many occasion been deleting references from the page that have been on the page for a long time. And this is after Saranghae honey's page deletion request was denied. All references makes asian fetish into something negative or an obsession. | |||
:So now you are telling me that Saranghae honey actions are different from the work of the vandals on this page? Just because Saranghae honey says that the deletion is because of the lack of integrity on the page? Can you see why I think this is very questionable? If you can see saranghae honey's side then can you please try to see it from my perspective? Is it possible the updating of the headers and other items are just to hide the fact that Saranghae honey's true purpose is to delete content? Before Saranghae honey just deleted items but now Saranghae is deleting and updating content. If I am not mistaken those who are chronic vandals this is what they typically do to hide their aggressive deletions. | |||
:As for the asian adoption items. I provided a definite reference to a piece that connects asian fetish and international adoption. I was also including the possible consequences of this connection. I really don't believe kids who went through international adoption will have the resources to conduct studies or have the time to write articles on this topic. They are probably just trying to survive. But not surprisingly those who have the money and resources to adopt are making sure their perspective are known and do anything to mitigate anything that would make international adoption into a negative thing. But assure you that the connection is there. I strongly suggest you read up on actual experiences of the people who actually were adopted. It is only recently that these adoptees have organized and made their voice heard. Even on the ] page and ] there are edit wars there just like on the asian fetish page where the people on both sides of the issue, those who want to make international adoption into something benign and those who think it's not benign. Let me show you one talk page entry for ] that struck me. Seeing that you are a female I am hoping that your experience in a sexist world will make you more sympathetic to the obvious force redefinition of a racist term that is being made on the asian fetish page. | |||
:"Well, whether or not it is 'cynical' to point out some of the things which have happened in the history of Korean adoption, I leave up to the reader to decide. This entry was written from the POW of Korean adoptees, and many of us can testify that adoption agencies have NOT always behaved in a way which could be classified as 'care for children whose parents can not care for them'! In fact, some of us can prove that the adoption agencies have NOT acted in our best interests, but instead have been feeding into their own overriding agendas and for their own profit. I do not deny that some agencies also do some worthy welfare work, like running hospitals etc, but this does not mean that everything the agencies have done through the 50 yrs of Korean adoption, has been ethical, hence the reason for pointing out the financial interests which has come as a result of the 'industrialization' of international adoption from Korea. As an adult adoptee, I believe that WE, the adoptees, 'own' our own history and are entitled to tell it from our own POW, instead of conflicting agendas interfering with how it is being portrayed. I therefore do NOT believe that anyone else is entitled to appropriate (a.k.a. KADpropriate) our history by changing it to fit their own image. | |||
:Misplaced Pages moderator, how do I protect this page from being KADpropriated and edited by someone else than the ones history actually belongs to (adult adoptees)????" ] (]) 22:22, 23 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
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the_undertow 00:28, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
Awesomeness galore
First off, I just saw your comment at the end of the "Misplaced Pages Rules" article. I nearly pissed myself with laughter (the gif above is spectacular). Good to see you out and about again Lara, VanTucky 21:04, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
- Yea, it's been good times since I came back, but I'm leaving again. Lara❤Love 21:30, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
ArbCom case
I'm a bit confused, because you aren't suppposed to be around??? Anyhow, I just asked Rikstar to summarize invovlement with 141 and the Elvis article. There are (I think) 500 words in the Arbcom form. I asked Rikstar to do 100-200. Although I can copy your commetns from talk pages, do you have any comments for the Arbcom? BTW it is going to take a while to do this. I have a lot of history to sum up. Steve Pastor (talk) 22:43, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
- I'm sort of around, but not really. Don't have a lot of interest in anything right now. I can write something up. Lara❤Love 22:59, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Update: I just pasted together the comments by Rikstar, yourself, and Maria calling for action against 141. 345 words! I'll also update Rikstar. Steve Pastor (talk) 20:08, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
RE RfB
Thanks for letting me know. I wasn't aware of this (the message on his talkpage indicated that he had retired). I'll correct the question ASAP. Walton 17:47, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
- Done. Also, although the question may sound harsh towards EVula, bear in mind that I have already supported the RfB, and I'm certainly not planning to withdraw my support on the basis of the Goodshoped affair (as it has no relation to bureaucratship, and doesn't alter the fact that I trust him to be a good bureaucrat). Walton 17:51, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
Titanium Nuts
You have to have balls of steel to add your own image to the Nambla article. Is there a barnstar for the coolest edit of the day? the_undertow 02:38, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Knitta
I simply loathe the ref template you are using. the_undertow 04:46, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
- Get on Yahoo or IRC and stfu. I used the one you were using. I don't even use ref templates normally. I do manual referencing. Lara❤Love 05:05, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
- Then you won't mind if I change teh template to teh awesome one I like. If I chat, I'll never get out tonite. the_undertow 05:09, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
- Use whatever you want. What to you want the line for DYK to be? Lara❤Love 05:12, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
- Something about how not all crackers are hung like moths. We are, but still...the stigma hurts. the_undertow 05:17, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
- I'll submit it without your help, muh knitta. But it would be much more awesome if it were a team project. Lara❤Love 05:26, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
- Something about how not all crackers are hung like moths. We are, but still...the stigma hurts. the_undertow 05:17, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
- Use whatever you want. What to you want the line for DYK to be? Lara❤Love 05:12, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
- Then you won't mind if I change teh template to teh awesome one I like. If I chat, I'll never get out tonite. the_undertow 05:09, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Sorry, I just don't like DYK. the_undertow 05:30, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
- You don't like DYK? That makes no sense to me. XD Lara❤Love 05:32, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
- Because it's so pretentious like hey, I bet you didn't know this, dumbass. Well guess what, not only did I KNOW it, I either invented it or have been arrested for doing it. the_undertow 05:34, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
- Hahaa. You're retarded. You have not been arrested for this. ROFL. DYK puts it on the main page. That's promotion right there. For your cause, knitta! Lara❤Love 05:36, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
- Because it's so pretentious like hey, I bet you didn't know this, dumbass. Well guess what, not only did I KNOW it, I either invented it or have been arrested for doing it. the_undertow 05:34, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Help on Asian fetish
I see that you have protected Asian fetish not too long ago. Asian fetish has never been stable since the article was unprotected. User:Tkguy is preventing me from deleting external links (apparently vandalism) and deleting what I think is original research. (He believes that adoption of Asian babies is linked to Asian fetish although it lacks sources.) Can you provide some comment on the talk page please? миражinred (talk) 15:58, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
- First off here are the facts:
- 1) This page has a clear history of vandals wanting to delete any and all content that makes this term into an obsession or something negative.
- 2) Saranghae honey requested that this page be deleted but that request was denied.
- 3) Saranghae honey have on many occasion been deleting references from the page that have been on the page for a long time. And this is after Saranghae honey's page deletion request was denied. All references makes asian fetish into something negative or an obsession.
- So now you are telling me that Saranghae honey actions are different from the work of the vandals on this page? Just because Saranghae honey says that the deletion is because of the lack of integrity on the page? Can you see why I think this is very questionable? If you can see saranghae honey's side then can you please try to see it from my perspective? Is it possible the updating of the headers and other items are just to hide the fact that Saranghae honey's true purpose is to delete content? Before Saranghae honey just deleted items but now Saranghae is deleting and updating content. If I am not mistaken those who are chronic vandals this is what they typically do to hide their aggressive deletions.
- As for the asian adoption items. I provided a definite reference to a piece that connects asian fetish and international adoption. I was also including the possible consequences of this connection. I really don't believe kids who went through international adoption will have the resources to conduct studies or have the time to write articles on this topic. They are probably just trying to survive. But not surprisingly those who have the money and resources to adopt are making sure their perspective are known and do anything to mitigate anything that would make international adoption into a negative thing. But assure you that the connection is there. I strongly suggest you read up on actual experiences of the people who actually were adopted. It is only recently that these adoptees have organized and made their voice heard. Even on the korean adoptee page and International adoption of South Korean children there are edit wars there just like on the asian fetish page where the people on both sides of the issue, those who want to make international adoption into something benign and those who think it's not benign. Let me show you one talk page entry for International adoption of South Korean children that struck me. Seeing that you are a female I am hoping that your experience in a sexist world will make you more sympathetic to the obvious force redefinition of a racist term that is being made on the asian fetish page.
- "Well, whether or not it is 'cynical' to point out some of the things which have happened in the history of Korean adoption, I leave up to the reader to decide. This entry was written from the POW of Korean adoptees, and many of us can testify that adoption agencies have NOT always behaved in a way which could be classified as 'care for children whose parents can not care for them'! In fact, some of us can prove that the adoption agencies have NOT acted in our best interests, but instead have been feeding into their own overriding agendas and for their own profit. I do not deny that some agencies also do some worthy welfare work, like running hospitals etc, but this does not mean that everything the agencies have done through the 50 yrs of Korean adoption, has been ethical, hence the reason for pointing out the financial interests which has come as a result of the 'industrialization' of international adoption from Korea. As an adult adoptee, I believe that WE, the adoptees, 'own' our own history and are entitled to tell it from our own POW, instead of conflicting agendas interfering with how it is being portrayed. I therefore do NOT believe that anyone else is entitled to appropriate (a.k.a. KADpropriate) our history by changing it to fit their own image.
- Misplaced Pages moderator, how do I protect this page from being KADpropriated and edited by someone else than the ones history actually belongs to (adult adoptees)????" Tkguy (talk) 22:22, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
Physical attractiveness
Hi. I noticed your GA review of physical attractiveness. If you'd care to stop by and volunteer your opinion on the latest talk page issue there, it would be appreciated.--Loodog (talk) 22:08, 23 December 2007 (UTC)