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== Unencyclopædic text removal == | == Unencyclopædic text removal == | ||
I have — for the ''second'' time — removed a dump of unencyclopædic text copied wholesale from other websites. The bulk of the text I've removed was copied from and from other web boards, without any attempt whatsoever to disguise its web board origin ("And some opinions posted in response to Mr. Tedder's post:" headed a dump of web board me-too comments). In the first place, this type of text dump is not permitted. Mind the advisory present on every Misplaced Pages editing page: '''Do not copy text from other websites without a GFDL-compatible license. It will be deleted.''' In the second place, the text was wholly unencyclopædic. Misplaced Pages is an encyclopædia. It is not the place for transcripts of television shows, reprints of magazine articles, lengthy soundbites from tv-show engine builders, or web board chatter. --] 15:10, 16 October 2007 (UTC) | I have — for the ''second'' time — removed a dump of unencyclopædic text copied wholesale from other websites. The bulk of the text I've removed was copied from and from other web boards, without any attempt whatsoever to disguise its web board origin ("And some opinions posted in response to Mr. Tedder's post:" headed a dump of web board me-too comments). In the first place, this type of text dump is not permitted. Mind the advisory present on every Misplaced Pages editing page: '''Do not copy text from other websites without a GFDL-compatible license. It will be deleted.''' In the second place, the text was wholly unencyclopædic. Misplaced Pages is an encyclopædia. It is not the place for transcripts of television shows, reprints of magazine articles, lengthy soundbites from tv-show engine builders, or web board chatter. --] 15:10, 16 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
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'''Update:''' ...and a ''fifth'' time. The PP should help; if the perpetrator wishes to engage in discussion regarding this text, he can do so as a registered editor. --] 20:23, 19 October 2007 (UTC) | '''Update:''' ...and a ''fifth'' time. The PP should help; if the perpetrator wishes to engage in discussion regarding this text, he can do so as a registered editor. --] 20:23, 19 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
There is a concerted effort by Hemi loyalists and apologists to rewrite and censor the history of the actual performance levels and records of the classic hemi engine. This effort consists of removing unpopular statements of fact, which are duly annotated and clearly true statements, and not just "dumps" of text. You may call the source of the statements up, and verify their veracity for yourself if you doubt them. But until you provide proof that they are incorrect, stop editing away the holocaust. The holocaust happened. A lot of so-called history and facts regarding the mythology of the hemi engine also happened. Acknowledge it and accept it. The source of these comments references an actual Hemi builder, in business, for profit, who has been involved with the engine, it's builders, racers, users and documentors for much of his life. If real world facts and experience are unencyclopeadic, then some people have a poor idea of just what an encyclopedia is. |
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Real history of the hemi
While Crysler did real things with the hemi over the last seventy years, they did NOT in fact design it. That kudo has to go to a french design engineer @1929. Henry Talbot, in cooperation with a coach designer named Largo, First designed and built the Hemi head for a custom built straight Six to be built in their race oriented two seat coupe. This car was built for wealty european's after the much sought after road racing titles of the day. The Talbot-Largo coupes were hand built with much advanced technology including a 6 speed, semi automatic transmission with no clutch. This transmission was operated by engaging seperate bands on individual levers to advance through the gears. Down shifting was accomplished by disengaging the levers one at a time till all were again off. Reverse used 1st and a reverser. This transmission pioneered the use of planetary gear technology used today in almost all auto transmissions.The suspension types under the car were also way ahead of latent technology. The most recent appearence of these hand built coupes, suprisingly, was a Disney film. Cruella Deville's Long nose coupe, In the movie 101 Dalmations was in fact, a very close artists rendition of the Talbot-Largo. Extremely rare now, there are none the less, restored versions still around. When the company went under in the 30"s Walter P. Chrysler had the funds available, and the good sense to purchase the patent rights to the design and put it away. Other companies have modified and used the style head but Chrysler owns the terminology HEMI and so is the only company who can use it.
- Early 1900s peugeot racers had dohc hemi 4 valve per cylinder, monobloc (head and cylinders one piece) etc. which enabled them to compete with a small engine versus the 20 liter flatheads the competition were running. not much new in engine technology since those. they were the ancestor of the Offy. Gzuckier 18:25, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
Unencyclopædic text removal
I have — for the second time — removed a dump of unencyclopædic text copied wholesale from other websites. The bulk of the text I've removed was copied from here and from other web boards, without any attempt whatsoever to disguise its web board origin ("And some opinions posted in response to Mr. Tedder's post:" headed a dump of web board me-too comments). In the first place, this type of text dump is not permitted. Mind the advisory present on every Misplaced Pages editing page: Do not copy text from other websites without a GFDL-compatible license. It will be deleted. In the second place, the text was wholly unencyclopædic. Misplaced Pages is an encyclopædia. It is not the place for transcripts of television shows, reprints of magazine articles, lengthy soundbites from tv-show engine builders, or web board chatter. --Scheinwerfermann 15:10, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
Update: I have now removed the same text dump for the third time. --Scheinwerfermann 04:48, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Update: and a fourth time. This time, I am being accused of "perpetuating false tests" or somesuch. I am perpetuating nothing, merely removing unencyclopædic content dumped wholesale from another website in violation of Misplaced Pages rules. --Scheinwerfermann 14:38, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
Update: ...and a fifth time. The PP should help; if the perpetrator wishes to engage in discussion regarding this text, he can do so as a registered editor. --Scheinwerfermann 20:23, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
There is a concerted effort by Hemi loyalists and apologists to rewrite and censor the history of the actual performance levels and records of the classic hemi engine. This effort consists of removing unpopular statements of fact, which are duly annotated and clearly true statements, and not just "dumps" of text. You may call the source of the statements up, and verify their veracity for yourself if you doubt them. But until you provide proof that they are incorrect, stop editing away the holocaust. The holocaust happened. A lot of so-called history and facts regarding the mythology of the hemi engine also happened. Acknowledge it and accept it. The source of these comments references an actual Hemi builder, in business, for profit, who has been involved with the engine, it's builders, racers, users and documentors for much of his life. If real world facts and experience are unencyclopeadic, then some people have a poor idea of just what an encyclopedia is.