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AN/I thread where your name has been invoked

Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:Jim62sch.

User:Videmus Omnia claims to have forwarded you an email from User:Jim62sch where Jim apparently threatened to report his editing to his employer, the U.S. Army. VO claims that you said this was ban-worthy behavior. Is this correct?

Jim seems to maintain that its his prerogative as a taxpayer. Cool Hand Luke 01:49, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm not Jimbo, but - IIRC, threats to report someone's edits to their employer are considered to fall under the legal threats policy (it says legal threats, but it's usually broadly interpreted to mean threatening to do anything which will have real-world consequences), but there is a grey area because the community generally accepts the practice of threatening to report an IP user's edits to their network administrator, which may be an employer or school. —Random832 21:42, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

note: This appears to have gone to arbitration as Misplaced Pages:Requests_for_arbitration/Jim62sch. The thread was renamed, it is now Misplaced Pages:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#User:Jim62sch (resolved). —Random832 21:51, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

About an admin.

Personally speaking, I strongly recommend you that please kindly review the edit history (from last year) of User:Kafziel who is an administrator, and seriously evaluate if he is really suitable for holding the status being an administrator. I wish you could carefully detect his history and make your own decision by your experience. I think that it is quite easy to find out by yourself so I am not going to point out what the specific problems are like language and power abuse or others. From my personal opinion, I don't think he is a good administrator and I will be happy to see if you really take an action towards this matter. PS: At the moment luckily I neither blocked nor warned by him. Thanks! User Coloane from Macau, China. Coloane (talk) 13:26, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Also Theresa Knott, who has decided start making personal attacks via her dubious involvement in Jim62sch's arbitration case. Her statements are based on a private email which she should have never even seen. --ElectricEye (talk) 22:58, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

ElectricEye is trolling. Please look at his full history. Oh and his userpage. Theresa Knott | The otter sank 23:01, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes look at my history starting from the beginning so you will have a better understanding of my actions. --ElectricEye (talk) 23:14, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

J.Wales, You once said that you'd like to know the names of any admin's who shouldn't be admins. Here is one I found on my first day back. Theresa, instead of seeing her misbehaviour, makes personal attacks when another user asks her not to make personal attacks. --ElectricEye (talk) 23:19, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

I have made a post at ANI regarding this harassment (link). R. Baley (talk) 23:25, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

GDS article

I wanted to draw your attention to the GDS talk where I left a message about a sense of justice. I've changed the header again, I want you thoughts on it. Regards, Mercury 20:03, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Wiki-Abilities

It is obvious you are the founder of Wiki, but what abilities do you posess on here? Are you an admin, bueracrat, checkuser, adopter, adoptee, etc? If none of the above, I would love to nominate you for RFA. LOL :D. Trevor "Tinkleheimer" Haworth 20:48, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

He has sysop, oversight, and Founder (equivalent of Steward). See Special:Listusers/founder --Charitwo 21:09, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Happy New Year!

Season Greetings

Hi,I too wish you a happy new year.Agent008 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Agent008 (talk • contribs) 18:46, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Could you clear up some confusion?

There's a little debate at WP:NFCC about the new March 28 resolution. The problem seems to be about whether this applies to Misplaced Pages or not, due to the way the licensing policy is worded or something like that. I'm just wondering if you could clarify this and clear up some confusion for us? .:Alex:. 10:33, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

New Search Engine

Hello. I am interested in the wiki search engine and wanted an update as to where the project might be located. Thank you. 63.3.15.130 (talk) 23:05, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

The wiki search engine all over the news is a Wikia project that is separate from this wikipedia. Jimbo is involved in both, but the organizations are distinct and separate. It is located on the web at http://search.Wikia.com/Search_Wikia . I don't see how it can work, myself; but it will be interesting to watch. Maybe in the end it will spawn several niche search engines , each the best for some specific purpose. The important thing is that it is fully copy-left, so its pieces can be copied, modified, used, sold, or given away. So it is free to evolve, find niches, and can not be killed by being purchased, owned, and buried. WAS 4.250 (talk) 04:27, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Spanish Misplaced Pages

Hi Jimbo, I've been editing English wikipedia for about two years now and a month ago I decided to participate more actively in the Spanish wiki. I don't know if you are aware of what is going on in all the other projects but I encountered a lot more censorship in that part of wikipedia. The five pillars tend to lag too. I usually edit articles related to Colombia.

They also have this system of voting that only users with 100+ edits and a month old user are allowed to vote on articles. I think is demoralizing for new users.. and I also felt overpowered even though I've been editing wikipedia for two years..

The referencing in the Spanish wiki is designed to accept links to organizations and blogs as long as these are referenced to a main source.. which in turn uses blogs and .org dubious organizations that might be of personal affiliation and are under a free license.

Good articles and featured articles lack a lot of information, referencing and citations.. neutrality is very hard to achieve since the rules lag and the "clicks" impose their views, specially on political issues.

This website for example http://www.aporrea.org/ supports the Bolivarian Revolution and the Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia (FARC) is apparently used widely as a source for many articles not related to it, but it has news some of them claim has citations.. but then some others are just blatant own creations... The NPOV policy in Spanish supports claims that all points of view are needed, even if it contains documents like in this case probably published on behalf of the FARC, a terrorist organization, and these are used as sources under a free license.

I was wondering if you can tell me where to go in this case, who is in charge of the Spanish wiki in the same way as you are in the English wiki... everything there is also written on behalf of what you have said in certain policies, but some other areas were achieved by consensus and differ from what I think is the essence of wikipedia.

--Zer0~Gravity 23:10, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

DRV Close

Hi Jimbo, I now have my e-mail reenabled. Cheers Spartaz 06:56, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Cool, thx. I sent you email. Let me know if you don't get it.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 15:41, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

new foreign language tool

hi there! i was wondering if it is possible to program some cue, so that a person can type in an english word for their subject of interest, but on wikipedia in a foreign language...for instance, i could type in orca in english, but on the french wikipedia, and this pulls up the french article on that subject, without needing to know that in french the word is orque...is this a difficult matter to arrange, if not it could be nice not just in a major language such as french, yet in some of the others too...bon jour! FreyasCrystalizedAngels (talk) 11:29, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

The best way is to just find the article in the English Misplaced Pages and then look at the interwiki links (bottom of the sidebar on the left) and see if the language you are after is there. Interwikis are not automatically added but a lot of people work on adding them and you should find it quite a reliable system. violet/riga (t) 11:36, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Messages

Wow I'm not surprised you don't answer many messages -must get on your nerves all this attention you get!!! It would drive me up the wall having ten messages everytime I log in. LOL ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ 15:36, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

I read it all. Some of it doesn't seem to be for me in particular, it's general questions that are answered by other people, etc. For some of it, I just have no idea what to say, so I don't. :) --Jimbo Wales (talk) 15:40, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

It's a pity that this fell into one of those categories. I had hoped you'd just missed it. A timely answer could have prevented yet another valuable contributor leaving. Yomangani 18:28, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Well, I regret not answering, then. But I actually just don't know what to say to it. I have no opinion about it. Questions about the boundaries of such things are not my decision to make, they are up to the community at large. I like to have input into such things, and will speak up if I think something is violative of a core principle, but in general, I think the community should thoughtfully consider things and will do a better job through open dialog and discussion than I can ever hope to do as just one thoughtful person doing my best.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 20:25, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

Ah I see. You'll need a new wiki site just to archive your messages soon enough lol! Anyway I've been pretty busy. I've a keen interest in south-east Asia and am attempting to fill in some gaps. Over the next few weeks I aim to get all of the communes of Cambodia onto wikipedia, unfortunately many of the provincial articles are still stubs. I'll be creating a template for each province of the country such as Template:BattambangProvince etc (its a little big perhaps) and filling in some gaps and to cover each area of the country in more detail (I'm hoping soon enough photos will become available as they make a big difference). I only wish I could get more people interested in parts of the world such as this. I feel it extremely important to try to address uneven coverage. I;ve also been attempting to do something with Burma, but this is incredibly difficult given the current political situation and lack of web info -we'll get there I;m sure. Anyway enough chit chat by me. Regards Baldy ♦ Sir Blofeld ♦ 15:50, 4 January 2008 (UTC)