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			:The above post is so inaccurate it's preposterous. The current article's book citation, for example, reads:
			:::Spurlock, David J., and John Buscema, The Art of John Buscema (New Jersey: Vanguard Productions, 2001) pp.60-61. Hardcover ISBN 1-887591-18-4, signed-numbered hardcover ISBN 1-887591-17-6, trade paperback ISBN 1-887591-19-2
			:As for the version of the article to which Skyelarke links, it is a hagiographic, fan-magazine travesty. Please go to it and see for oneself. --] (]) 02:31, 9 January 2008 (UTC)-
			*Let's keep it ] please. We have policies which relate to bias, mainly ], but also ] and ]. Let's focus the discussion using those terms of reference rather than our own more colourful but possibly more divisive ones. ] <small>] </small> 02:34, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

			::In principle I agree; purposefully misleading statements, however, I believe need to be addressed in forceful terms. What is the old saying? "A lie can travel halfway 'round the world before the truth gets out the front door." I did take care to limit my comments to the post and not the person. --] (]) 02:42, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
			:::I happen to agree with Misplaced Pages policy: Silent and faceless words on talk pages and edit summaries do not transmit the nuances of verbal conversation, leading to small, facetious comments being misinterpreted. One uncivil remark can easily escalate into a heated discussion which may not focus objectively on the problem at hand. It is during these exchanges that community members may become uninterested in improving articles and instead focus on "triumphing" over the "enemy". It is better to simply state the fact; you do not believe the version of the page referred to meets our policy on ]. ] <small>] </small> 02:53, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

			::::You're right, and I certainly don't disagree; it's better to be more strictly businesslike. One can't let the goaders get your goat. I have to admit it's hard, but it's a goal worth reaching for. --] (]) 03:01, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

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The current version of this article has many mistakes in the references section - this version http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=John_Buscema&oldid=181851662 does not - If anyone is interested, please feel free to make the necessary corrections.

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The correct info for 3 major reference works cited are as follows:

Spurlock, D., & Buscema, J.(2001) John Buscema Sketchbook. New Jersey:Vanguard Productions

Comic Book Artist, 21 (Aug. 2002)

Alter Ego, v.3, 15 (June 2002)

--Skyelarke (talk) 22:35, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

The above post is so inaccurate it's preposterous. The current article's book citation, for example, reads:

Spurlock, David J., and John Buscema, The Art of John Buscema (New Jersey: Vanguard Productions, 2001) pp.60-61. Hardcover ISBN 1-887591-18-4, signed-numbered hardcover ISBN 1-887591-17-6, trade paperback ISBN 1-887591-19-2

As for the version of the article to which Skyelarke links, it is a hagiographic, fan-magazine travesty. Please go to it and see for oneself. --Tenebrae (talk) 02:31, 9 January 2008 (UTC)-

Let's keep it civil please. We have policies which relate to bias, mainly WP:NPOV, but also WP:WEASEL and WP:PEACOCK. Let's focus the discussion using those terms of reference rather than our own more colourful but possibly more divisive ones. Hiding T 02:34, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

In principle I agree; purposefully misleading statements, however, I believe need to be addressed in forceful terms. What is the old saying? "A lie can travel halfway 'round the world before the truth gets out the front door." I did take care to limit my comments to the post and not the person. --Tenebrae (talk) 02:42, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

I happen to agree with Misplaced Pages policy: Silent and faceless words on talk pages and edit summaries do not transmit the nuances of verbal conversation, leading to small, facetious comments being misinterpreted. One uncivil remark can easily escalate into a heated discussion which may not focus objectively on the problem at hand. It is during these exchanges that community members may become uninterested in improving articles and instead focus on "triumphing" over the "enemy". It is better to simply state the fact; you do not believe the version of the page referred to meets our policy on WP:NPOV. Hiding T 02:53, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

You're right, and I certainly don't disagree; it's better to be more strictly businesslike. One can't let the goaders get your goat. I have to admit it's hard, but it's a goal worth reaching for. --Tenebrae (talk) 03:01, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

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