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Scary articles

Below are articles articles, mostly medical but some in the sciences, that promote ideas or POV's that might endanger human life. Feel free to add your own, but I'm watching and cleaning up these articles. Please sign if you add something.

• List of medicinal herbs-lacks any references, and implies these drugs can help.Orangemarlin 00:52, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
• Herbalism-same as above Orangemarlin 00:52, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
• Homeopathy-ridiculous Orangemarlin 00:52, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
• Attachment therapy-don't let your children go there Orangemarlin 00:52, 12 July 2007 (UTC) This has been rewritten since User:AWeidman (Dr Becker-Weidman) and his 6 socks were indef banned. Fainites 16:45, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
• Medicinal plants of the American West-more unsourced POV edits Orangemarlin 00:52, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
• Alternative medicine-more of the same Orangemarlin 00:52, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
• Naturopathic medicine-Actually not completely off the wall, but some parts are bad. Orangemarlin 00:52, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
• Er, Duesberg hypothesis and poppers could both use more work, and talk about endangering lives... especially the former. MastCell 18:54, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
• I'd also add ephedra to the list... I did a lot of work cleaning it up and it's not so bad anymore (it actually references the serious harms and deaths associated with ephedra supplements in a way that goes beyond referring to the FDA as jackbooted thugs, now). But much of the same material is duplicated in ECA stack, which I haven't been as successful with, and which I fear gives an erroneous impression as to the safety record of ephedra-containing dietary supplements. MastCell 19:20, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
• Arguably, Reflexology, though that's probably not actually dangerous, just ridiculously oversold. Adam Cuerden 00:51, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
• Vaccine controversy. Anti-vaxers are really dangerous. -- Fyslee / talk 08:27, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
• Hulda Clark. A dangerous scam. -- Fyslee / talk 08:27, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
• Gary Null. Advocates nonsense. -- Fyslee / talk 08:27, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
• Joseph Mercola. Advocates nonsense and repeated run ins with the FTC. -- Fyslee / talk 08:27, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
• rebirthing, reparenting, Power therapies. Primal Scream therapy. I would treat Neurolinguistic Programming as the main hub for many of them though. Its a subject that seems to be the main pseudoscientific umbrella that is used by most of them to give the false impression of scientific appearance. Its incredibly widespread and extremely misleading to the less scientifically literate. Here is a good source; . Phloem (talk) 05:33, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
• coral calcium. I just put in some references, but there is a lot more that can be done. That someone would think that coral calcium can be used as a panacea for all types of cancer when in fact excess calcium can, in some cases, be detrimental to certain cancer treatments means that we should be very careful how the claims of the coral calcium fanatics are treated. ScienceApologist (talk) 21:38, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

tools for checking refs?

Hi, I think i saw some back 'n forth between you 'n Sandy 'n Colin about tools for checking references... I would be very interested in learning anything you've learned (both now & in the future). Thanks! Ling.Nut (talk) 01:06, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Hope you don't mind me butting in here. There are two great tools for checking references. The first, older one, is user:Gimmetrow's Reference Fixer, located here. The talk page has instructions on how to install and use it. It is a wonderful tool for fixing the punctuation so that it precedes the footnote. It also moves citation needed and other such tags to the end of a sentence, all automated. The second, brand-new tool is Dispenser's Linkchecker, which is causing quite a stir on FAC. It uses spider software to search for dead links and references in FACs. It can also be used manually to check individual articles. The link to the spider version for FAC is here. Firsfron of Ronchester 07:31, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Thanks again! Those both look like very good tools. Will check them out... Ling.Nut (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 07:52, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

You do know I was just joshing, right? SandyGeorgia (Talk) 01:19, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

We didn't know you had a sense of humor?????  :) OrangeMarlin 01:24, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

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Process

The instructions for "Wikiquette alerts" say I should inform you that I've posted there about you. Hope it helps. Gnixon (talk) 19:51, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Already responded to your personal attack and uncivil behavior, and long ago I asked you to keep your comments off of my page. OrangeMarlin 19:53, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

As much as the POV and content dispute stuff is difficult to wade through, and frustration probably set in long ago, the best way to mess up your side of the argument is to stoop to graphic sexual allusions like this. All you had to do was phrase that without the vulgarity and you would have made a good point. Instead, you're turning the tables on yourself. Try to keep civil, it will help smooth the process. --Cheeser1 (talk) 23:19, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

O.M,

I just saw the Wikiquette alert on you. I'm going to say my peace: don't give in on this! I see the work that folks like you and User:ScienceApologist do, and its important work. I sympathize with the frustration level. But every time someone says something uncivil, it feeds the very people you are working against. That's the simple truth. I wish it weren't. Stuff like that has to stop. They never seem to be frustrated because in the end, they know there is a mechanism on their side to keep you and similar editors at bay over something like civility. People like S.A. gets blocked, andthey go right back to editing based on their own concensus. Please read what Cheeser1 wrote.

Cheeser1 also alludes to another big problem: admins are not consistently knowledgeable enough about science to know when a supporting source is valid or not. Like so much of the rest of the population, they see good peer reviewed references as being "just as good" as some editorial. I'm no admin, but if there is something I can do to help, please drop me a line ...... whether it is weighing on something, or someone to help with any frustration.

Your work is important ...... never forget that. LonelyBeacon (talk) 23:31, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

Gnixon has a long history of attacking me personally. He had run away, and I was happy with that, but he seems to be back. I have no other way to describe his activity but in a very guttural level. I shall endeavor to stand up to his attacks more professionally. OrangeMarlin 00:41, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

Just to clarify Cheeser and LB, I will not shy away from standing up to Gnixons's consitently harsh and condescending personal attacks. But I do agree to be a bit more circumspect in my language with respect to him and his attacks. OrangeMarlin 05:34, 14 January 2008 (UTC)