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:::::I think you misunderstand the concept of protection. I'll sleep on it, and figure out where to go from here.] (]) 04:24, 24 January 2008 (UTC) :::::I think you misunderstand the concept of protection. I'll sleep on it, and figure out where to go from here.] (]) 04:24, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
::::::PeaceNT, I completely agree with Kww on this one. The protection policy says that "Pages protected due to content disputes should not be edited except to remove content which clearly violates content policies, such as obvious vandalism or copyright violations, to make changes unrelated to the dispute, or to make changes for which there is clear consensus on the discussion page." To make changes for which there is a clear consensus, not to revert changes for which there isn't one. They're not the same thing. Please consider reverting, even though, just so you know, I consider the version it's on now to be the "right" version. ] ] 05:01, 24 January 2008 (UTC) ::::::PeaceNT, I completely agree with Kww on this one. The protection policy says that "Pages protected due to content disputes should not be edited except to remove content which clearly violates content policies, such as obvious vandalism or copyright violations, to make changes unrelated to the dispute, or to make changes for which there is clear consensus on the discussion page." To make changes for which there is a clear consensus, not to revert changes for which there isn't one. They're not the same thing. Please consider reverting, even though, just so you know, I consider the version it's on now to be the "right" version. ] ] 05:01, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
:::::::Does it matter that I corrected what was woefully wrong? IAR here (and no, I'm not applying that policy blindly, it was an effort to improve Misplaced Pages, preserve and protect legitimate content from the hand of the unjustified Arbcom - subject deletionism) - ] (]) 05:27, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

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No one who voted delete brought up WHY they think this artist is not notable. Completely lame that this article went to delete. Interview with the artist about her work spanning decades can be read here: http://www.razorcake.org/site/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=7467

Just because wikipedians have never heard of someone, does not mean they don't meet wiki guidelines.

Messwemade (talk) 18:40, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

  • Thank you for replying. Take your time!! I would not need userfy as I had edited and re-edited this article to meet notability and wiki requirements months before the user set it to delete. Also, FYI: just before the user requested deletion, they had put up a "notability" tag and so I added a link to the above referenced interview and asked kindly that the notability tag be removed. Instead of reading the interview and coming back to me on the article discussion page with further talk about the biography and its notability, the next time I logged into wikipedia the article has been nominated for deletion, voted upon and deleted. This user did not even reference the discussions I had with them on the article talk page in the deletion remarks or vote...they simply nominated for deletion and voted "Delete". This is deletion vandalism. But anyway, take your time, and thank you for reviewing this article for me. You are very kind! Messwemade (talk) 16:53, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

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Hi, I was just about to decline the speedy because, well, it wasn't nonsense. It was describing a breed of chicken. It needed a bit of formatting. See . Do you object to my restoring it and formatting it? Woody (talk) 13:12, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

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Please be careful not to interfere with a C&P move fix, I was in the middle of fixing it when you came and moved the page, and as you know it is pretty easy to make things worse in Cut and Paste repairs. Make sure to check if someone is already doing it please. Prodego 18:58, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

When you restored the page you kept two revisions that should have stayed deleted (or would have made the history inconsistent). Those were the addition of the Rfrom template, and the moved message. It keeps the history more consistent to remove those, and doing so will not cause a GFDL problem in this case. Prodego 00:26, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

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Any particular reason that motivated you to edit the article during a period of full protection?Kww (talk) 01:20, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, the point of protection usually is to encourage discussion instead of endorsing a version of the page. Using it to your advantage to establish your preferred version is rather pointy. TTN (talk) 01:34, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
I saw a report at ANI, reviewed the edits, was convinced that the redirection was unwarranted, hence the reversion. You're welcome to continue your discussion until it effectively reaches consensus, then I'm sure your edit wouldn't cause the problems that it does at present. - PeaceNT (talk) 04:15, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
You don't think it takes an extreme case to warrant editing an article to match your preferred version while it is in the protected state?Kww (talk) 04:19, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
No, it is not my personal preferred version. It is the redirected that was not endorsed by the supposedly consensus. I spent enough time reading the linked discussion, and found no such consensus on the matter, which was why I restored the legitimate page. Regards, - PeaceNT (talk) 04:23, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
I think you misunderstand the concept of protection. I'll sleep on it, and figure out where to go from here.Kww (talk) 04:24, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
PeaceNT, I completely agree with Kww on this one. The protection policy says that "Pages protected due to content disputes should not be edited except to remove content which clearly violates content policies, such as obvious vandalism or copyright violations, to make changes unrelated to the dispute, or to make changes for which there is clear consensus on the discussion page." To make changes for which there is a clear consensus, not to revert changes for which there isn't one. They're not the same thing. Please consider reverting, even though, just so you know, I consider the version it's on now to be the "right" version. Heimstern Läufer (talk) 05:01, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
Does it matter that I corrected what was woefully wrong? IAR here (and no, I'm not applying that policy blindly, it was an effort to improve Misplaced Pages, preserve and protect legitimate content from the hand of the unjustified Arbcom - subject deletionism) - PeaceNT (talk) 05:27, 24 January 2008 (UTC)