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::: Possibly. I won't object to anybody reverting my deletion, but on the other hand, it may be a beneficial bargain with the devil. Moreover, the same argument you make can be made (and has I believe already been made above by ]) that based on the same page you cite, the right to vanish applies only to users in good standing. That characterization of the "vanishing user" I don't think applied in this case. My opinion, and possibly that of the other admins that deleted various Hewitt pages, is that WP will be better off without these pages. However, if you feel strict adherence to these rules is preferable, then by all means undo the deletion.--] (]) 05:20, 28 January 2008 (UTC) | ::: Possibly. I won't object to anybody reverting my deletion, but on the other hand, it may be a beneficial bargain with the devil. Moreover, the same argument you make can be made (and has I believe already been made above by ]) that based on the same page you cite, the right to vanish applies only to users in good standing. That characterization of the "vanishing user" I don't think applied in this case. My opinion, and possibly that of the other admins that deleted various Hewitt pages, is that WP will be better off without these pages. However, if you feel strict adherence to these rules is preferable, then by all means undo the deletion.--] (]) 05:20, 28 January 2008 (UTC) | ||
::::The category can be resurrected if the sock puppetry resumes. If it doesn't resume then the category is unneeded. ]] ] 05:42, 28 January 2008 (UTC) | ::::The category can be resurrected if the sock puppetry resumes. If it doesn't resume then the category is unneeded. ]] ] 05:42, 28 January 2008 (UTC) | ||
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Please delete "User talk:CarlHewitt" from the Misplaced Pages
Please delete User talk:CarlHewitt from the Misplaced Pages.
Thanks,
Carl Hewitt--67.180.173.91 (talk) 05:44, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
- done --CSTAR (talk) 07:39, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks! Carl--98.207.43.7 (talk) 18:46, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
Please delete "User:CarlEHewitt" from the Misplaced Pages
Please delete User:CarlEHewitt from the Misplaced Pages.
Thanks,
Carl Hewitt--98.207.43.218 (talk) 05:40, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- Shouldn't request this be authenticated somehow? Interesting.--CSTAR (talk) 05:50, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- Also please delete User:Prof. Hewitt
- Thanks, Carl Hewitt--76.126.57.246 (talk) 05:54, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks for making these deletions, Carl Hewitt--12.49.221.91 (talk) 22:34, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
- Wouldn't all these deletions violate the GDFL? — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 07:22, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- In the expanding and ever more confusing set of principles (mis)guiding Misplaced Pages practice is the so-called "Right to Vanish" which I've seen applied in several cases. If Hewitt (or whomever) wants to vanish, then he/she should post the requests authenticated with a modification label in the diff associated to the account he/she wants deleted. In other words, log on as User:CarlEHewitt and make the request. This gives some evidence that the request was legitimate, namely that the requester knows the login password.
- Wouldn't all these deletions violate the GDFL? — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 07:22, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- This isn't foolproof of course, but good enough.--CSTAR (talk) 17:59, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- Doesn't the use of multiple socks preclude the "right to vanish"? Just curious. I also think he no longer has access to some of the accounts; at least his initial explanation for the use of socks is that he forgot the password of the original account. Furthermore, some IP is requesting edits of the CH article. If that's still the same "person" as (one of) these accounts, it doesn't quite fall under "right to vanish". But I could be wrong. — Arthur Rubin | (talk) 18:36, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
- Your guess is as good as mine. Although I am willing to be loose and allow vanishing of various "instantiations".--CSTAR (talk) 18:50, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
Please delete "User talk:CarlEHewitt" from the Misplaced Pages
Please delete User talk:CarlEHewitt from the Misplaced Pages. Thanks, Carl Hewitt--12.49.221.91 (talk) 22:39, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
- Done. Since the main page was deleted, this seemed uncontroversial.--CSTAR (talk) 23:45, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
- Thanks, Carl--12.49.221.91 (talk) 15:35, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
Please delete "Category:Suspected Misplaced Pages sockpuppets of CarlHewitt" from the Misplaced Pages
Please delete Misplaced Pages sockpuppets of CarlHewitt from the Misplaced Pages. Thanks, Carl Hewitt--12.49.221.91 (talk) 15:35, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
- Well I suppose this falls within the purview of "right to vanish".--CSTAR (talk) 03:39, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
- It's done.--CSTAR (talk) 03:42, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not sure such a deletion is appropriate. If we look at WP:VANISH, it explicitly says: "The right to vanish does not extend to pages retained for the purposes of protecting Misplaced Pages against disruption; for example requests for arbitration, requests for check user, or sockpuppet categories." That's a sockpuppet category, and Hewitt has been disruptive in the past... --Gwern (contribs) 04:51 28 January 2008 (GMT)
- Possibly. I won't object to anybody reverting my deletion, but on the other hand, it may be a beneficial bargain with the devil. Moreover, the same argument you make can be made (and has I believe already been made above by Arthur Rubin) that based on the same page you cite, the right to vanish applies only to users in good standing. That characterization of the "vanishing user" I don't think applied in this case. My opinion, and possibly that of the other admins that deleted various Hewitt pages, is that WP will be better off without these pages. However, if you feel strict adherence to these rules is preferable, then by all means undo the deletion.--CSTAR (talk) 05:20, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
- The category can be resurrected if the sock puppetry resumes. If it doesn't resume then the category is unneeded. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 05:42, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
- Possibly. I won't object to anybody reverting my deletion, but on the other hand, it may be a beneficial bargain with the devil. Moreover, the same argument you make can be made (and has I believe already been made above by Arthur Rubin) that based on the same page you cite, the right to vanish applies only to users in good standing. That characterization of the "vanishing user" I don't think applied in this case. My opinion, and possibly that of the other admins that deleted various Hewitt pages, is that WP will be better off without these pages. However, if you feel strict adherence to these rules is preferable, then by all means undo the deletion.--CSTAR (talk) 05:20, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
- I'm not sure such a deletion is appropriate. If we look at WP:VANISH, it explicitly says: "The right to vanish does not extend to pages retained for the purposes of protecting Misplaced Pages against disruption; for example requests for arbitration, requests for check user, or sockpuppet categories." That's a sockpuppet category, and Hewitt has been disruptive in the past... --Gwern (contribs) 04:51 28 January 2008 (GMT)
Please delete article "Carl Hewitt" from the Misplaced Pages
Please delete the article Carl Hewitt from the Misplaced Pages. Thanks, Carl Hewitt--12.49.221.91 (talk) 19:27, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
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