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Regarding Turkey-United States relations

I noticed you have an excellent photo on Turkey-United States relations. If you made this, any chance you could do a similar one for either Venezuelan-Israeli relations or New Zealander-Israeli relations, preferably both? If you found it, where can I get similar ones? Respectfully, Republitarian 00:05, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

You have been entering obsessive and oppositional defiant reversals to the US Turkish relations article which amount to personal vandalism with idiotic explanations such as claiming a historic video with sound of being no reference value and one particular leader's personal views as not being the same person's vision. YOu were asked not to vandalize but add with references the points that you wanted to elaborate on but this went over your head. This article is not for you to fartz about in between your porno feasts and chatline ecztasies to have self satisfaction with personality fits. Keep you paws off. 72.74.102.164 —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 23:57, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Yeah sure buddy. Like I said, YouTube videos in Turkish are not proper references for the ENGLISH Misplaced Pages. And by the way, why don't you take a look at the history of that page and see just who it was that WROTE THE ORIGINAL ARTICLE. http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Turkish-American_relations&limit=500&action=history Yup it was me, and since then, 100% of my work remains, and has only been added to. Most of the additions have been legitimate. Yours have not. So don't get your hopes up of me "keeping my paws off" an article that I originated, especially with silly bs like YouTube videos. If you would like to take this issue further feel free to get a Misplaced Pages Admin involved. But I warn you, that if you continue with the personal attacks I will ask the admins to block your IP address so you will not to be able to edit Misplaced Pages articles AT ALL. Watch your step pal.--BillyTFried 00:09, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

Your edits to Sodium bicarbonate

• laugh* Hey, thanks for attacking this article. I put the 'factual' tag on that section, but I didn't want to even touch the editing on it. Well done!--Mdwyer 16:47, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

The March of Those Who Disagree

A tag has been placed on The March of Those Who Disagree, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Misplaced Pages.

I didn't delete your article. I put a speedy delete tag on it because it lacked context and confusing. If you'd posted the article currently in place I wouldn't have tagged it.--Bookworm857158367 03:37, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

Khomeini's marriage

Salam. I answered to your comment about this issue.--Sa.vakilian(t-c) 03:32, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

Chris Daly

That's cute, Billy. Do you really live in SF? If you did, you would know that Proposition H was no big deal in the City. The gun crowd across American picked up on it and made it a big deal, but it hardly made a splash here. It wasn't debated in the campaign. It passed with 58 percent of the vote. Moreover, Daly was "one of four supervisors who placed the measure on the ballot" according to this article in the San Francisco Chronicle. If he was one of four, I don't think it merits mentioning in his article, since he didn't speerhead it. Are you going to mention Proposition H in articles about the other three supervisors who put it on the ballot? Or are you going to follow the hysterical lead of the NRA and other gun-nut organizations and make Chris Daly into your little bugbear? Griot 04:57, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

What is Chardonnay? You live at Pacific and Laguna. Tough neighborhood. I see why you own a gun. <chuckle> Griot 08:00, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

A notice about this threatening behavior was recorded at the Misplaced Pages Administrators' noticeboard. You can read about it here. Griot 16:20, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

**MESSAGE FROM ADMIN**

At best, this just shows exceedingly bad judgment on your part... at worst it could be seen as an attempt to intimidate someone you are arguing with. Either way it wasn't overly WP:CIVIL and I expect this will not happen again.--Isotope23 18:38, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

The above incident with the hysterically paranoid info-deleting professor inspired me to make the following addition to Misplaced Pages: Gun culture#Gun nut

He was also outvoted on the Chris Daly page and my section on Daly's failed SF Gun Ban Proposition was left intact: Chris_Daly#Proposition_to_ban_firearms --BillyTFried 09:20, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

• Hmm, I take it you have not read WP:STICK. Regardless, referring to another editor you've had a conflict with as a "hysterically paranoid info-deleting professor" is grossly incivil and borders on a personal attack. As you've been previously warned about this kind of behavior, I've blocked you for 24 hours. Hopefully this will drive the point home that this isn't acceptable behavior.--Isotope23 13:51, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
• Also, please don't remove AFD notices from articles while the AFD is still active.--Isotope23 14:45, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

My characterization of a person who first laughed at the posting of a hobbyist video but a day later decided he found it to be THREATENING BEHAVIOR requiring disciplinary action (He wanted me permanently banned from Misplaced Pages) is not an incivil personal attack but a perfectly accurate and justified assessment. And I believe I have the right to express my opinion of such behavior on MY OWN TALK PAGE. The behavior he exhibited was pure paranoia and hysterics as I see it, and others Wikipedians agreed with that assessment. It's also highly likely that his claims of feeling threatened are completely disingenuous and were really a cover for retaliation for his defeat on the Chris Daly page. He also is accurately described as someone who continually deleted cited and relevant material from Misplaced Pages despite mine and others protests, as well as all comments made by him and myself that showed his own incivil behavior. That is why I have reproduced the exchange on my talk page as it has been deleted from where it originally occurred with only my YouTube post left intact. I wonder why he did that shortly before reporting me? My remark above contains nothing profane and represents my view of his outrageous behavior and was placed nowhere but on MY OWN TALK PAGE. And as far as personal attacks go, I consider his use of the term "Gun Nut", referring to NRA members such as myself as "Hysterical" and his mocking my family name with his User_talk:Isotope23#Fried_by_Billy comment on your Talk page to be incivil behavior that went unpunished. Calling someone a "Hysterical Gun Nut" is perfectly OK but referring to someone as a "Hysterically Paranoid Info-Deleter" is not??? That's ridiculous! I consider your decision to block to me to be an abuse of your administrator privileges. --BillyTFried 19:02, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Feel free to post an unblock template or request an unblock via the mailing list, then register a complaint about me at WP:ANI.--Isotope23 19:06, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

By the way, the difference in your examples is that Griot called the NRA "Gun Nuts" not you specifically. In context, I have no idea if you are part of the NRA... that isn't a personal attack because it isn't directly characterizing you (unless I missed a comment where he called you that directly). You on the oher hand called Griot a "Hysterically Paranoid Info-Deleter", i.e. you directly characterized him as such, which would be a personal attack. Regardless, someone will review the block and either uphold or overturn it.--Isotope23 19:38, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Oh please, that's like saying that an Atheist when talking to a Christian, refers to all Christians as "Bible Thumping Nuts" and that's ok, but when that Christian lashes back at the Atheist who said it and calls him a "Sinful Heretical Nut", only the Christian is in the wrong and deserves punishment! Or like saying it's OK to use the N-Word because you didn't know the person you were talking to is Black and if he lashes back at you, only he is in the wrong! Ridiculous! --BillyTFried 19:44, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

How interesting, I never said either of those things. Regardless, someone will review your block. I don't really have anything more to say about it.--Isotope23 20:02, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

a·nal·o·gy /əˈnælədʒi/ –noun, p a similarity between like features of two things, on which a comparison may be based. A form of reasoning in which one thing is inferred to be similar to another thing in a certain respect, on the basis of the known similarity between the things in other respects. --BillyTFried 20:10, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Ugh... yes, I'm familiar with the term... it wasn't even a particularly good analogy. By the way, per your latest revision, as I said there that wasn't a useful or helpful thing to say. Griot should have known better and I considered that a warning to him, same as you got for the video incident. If you are going to get hung up on past events by posting long explanations of a past incident you had with another editor, I suspect this will not be the last conflict you get into. Get over it Billy... move on. It doesn't do you or anyone else any good to rehash something that is over and done.--Isotope23 20:55, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

((unblock|Abuse of administrator privileges in blocking me for expressing my own opinion on my own talk page.))

You know, if you'd just said, "Yeah, that was sort of poor judgement on my part, I'll be careful in the future," this probably would have all gone away. In a collaborative project, your ability to work together and get along with others is very important. No, I don't think your video was a threat, but no, I don't think your reaction was all that positive, either. With that in mind, I need to determine whether unblocking you will lead everyone to move forward with a more developed understanding and acceptance of each other, or if unblocking will only bring everybody to each other's throats, again. Does that make sense? – Luna Santin (talk) 20:04, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

I did say on the Admin Complaint page that I would not post such a video on someone's talk page again in the future. And yes what you have said does make sense to me. --BillyTFried 20:13, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

But the thing is, you sort of did do it again...

I for one have no interest or desire to continue to engage Billy and I'm not following his edits whether he is unblocked or not (I only noticed the talkpage diatribe above due to an ongoing AFD).It's unfortunate that he doesn't seem to get why his trophy case of his dispute with Griot isn't in the spirit of Misplaced Pages, nor why disparaging Griot with a personal attack after he was warned about his conduct in regards to that editor wasn't acceptable... but "Meh". Either he'll catch on, or he won't and eventually someone else will block him. I'm content to leave Billy be if he's unblocked.--Isotope23 20:15, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

Alrighty. After discussing this with Isotope, briefly, we're going to unblock you. Remember what we discussed, and hopefully we can all learn something from this. Stay out of trouble, eh? ;) – Luna Santin (talk) 02:01, 19 July 2007 (UTC)

Critical Mass current event tag

Hello. I believe the current event tag was recently added to Critical Mass as a result of the addition to the article of information about the August 31, 2007 events in Minneapolis. Cheers, Doctormatt 17:29, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Lolicon

I have removed Saikano's comments again. He is an indefinitely blocked sockpuppeteer with a history of disrupting the lolicon, anime, pedophile, and child pornography talk pages. Please consider this before reinstating such comments. Leebo /C 18:07, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

September 2007

Y	Your request to be unblocked has been granted for the following reason(s): Since you've been here since 2006, I thought you did. Since you're now aware of it, I'll unblock you. Remember — don't edit war. --Haemo 20:27, 17 September 2007 (UTC) Request handled by: Haemo 20:27, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for unblocking me but so then how should I deal with these constant attacks from the Pro-Daly camp who keep removing a totally valid image that I added to the article? --BillyTFried 20:30, 17 September 2007 (UTC) http://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:Chris_Daly#Controversial_Demeanor_Image

Keep discussing it with them, and then seek dispute resolution if that doesn't work. --Haemo 20:35, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Ok I'll give that a try, but I still seemed to be blocked from editing any pages. --BillyTFried 21:00, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm. Let me check if you've triggered an autoblock. Hang on. --Haemo 21:06, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Yep; looks like it wasn't removed. You should be good to go now. --Haemo 21:07, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

Possibly unfree Image:Chris Daly.jpg

An image that you uploaded or altered, Image:Chris Daly.jpg, has been listed at Misplaced Pages:Possibly unfree images because its copyright status is disputed. If the image's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. You may find more information on the image description page. You are welcome to add comments to its entry at the discussion if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Chris! _{my talk} 01:32, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Possibly unfree Image:Daly Cop.jpg

An image that you uploaded or altered, Image:Daly Cop.jpg, has been listed at Misplaced Pages:Possibly unfree images because its copyright status is disputed. If the image's copyright status cannot be verified, it may be deleted. You may find more information on the image description page. You are welcome to add comments to its entry at the discussion if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Chris! _{my talk} 01:45, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

Regarding this image and this comment. If you have permission to release the photo into the public domain, that permission needs to be archived. First you'll need to get the copyright holder to send you an email from an email address that corresponds to the source URL (chrisdalyblows.com). That email must indicate that the person sending it owns the rights to the photo and agrees to release it into the public domain or license it under a free license. Then you need to forward that email, with a source link and Misplaced Pages image link, to permissions-en AT wikimedia DOT org. Otherwise, the image may be deleted. Taking these steps to verify that the image is free is your responsibility. It is not others' responsibility to prove that the image is unfree.--chaser - t 03:35, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Dan White

I saw you recently made an edit on an article about Dan White. I saw that you added the high school he went to. I was just wondering out of interest how you know this and where can I find this information. Thanks! --Gndawydiak 23:25, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

greetings from mary

Hey Billy, The article is coming together, thanks for asking! Sorry for the delay in getting back to you--I was on a deadline yesterday. Anyhow, I may be emailing you follow-up questions in the not-too-distant future. Best, MaryMarynega (talk) 18:32, 2 February 2008 (UTC)

February 2008

Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Misplaced Pages, as you did to User:Griot. Your edits appear to constitute vandalism and have been reverted. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Gwernol 03:37, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism? I added the blocked user template for a user who is in fact blocked. Isn't something like that supposed to be there? Seemed like somebody forgot to add it. --BillyTFried (talk) 03:38, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

There are several problems. First it was placed in the wrong place: block notices go on the talk page, not the user page. Second it was inaccurate: I did not block Griot indefinitely for sockpuppetry. Third the blocking admin should add the notice. Finally, there is an active discussion about this block going on at WP:ANI, and there are good reasons why the notices are as they are. Adding that notice wasn't helpful and it seems you did it without a full understanding of the context. Please don't get involved with the case unless you are prepared to come up to speed with the full history of it first.

All that said, you were acting in good faith, so I have stricken the vandalism warning I gave you. Thanks, Gwernol 03:44, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

You're continuing to harrass Griot on his talk page. That's not acceptable user behavior.

Leave him alone. Further disruptive edits there may result in sanctions on your account.

Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 20:49, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I understand your concern, but what he had done was a deliberate attempt to misrepresent me, which is not allowed on Misplaced Pages talk pages, so all I did was revert it back to the original conversation. This can be seen here along with my comments on it: http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=User_talk:Griot&action=history As long as he makes no more attempts to misrepresent me I do not plan to make any other edits to his talk page. Please see to it that he does not do this again. Thanks. --BillyTFried (talk) 21:03, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Did I or did I not warn you to stop edit harrassing and warring with him on his talk page?

Anyone who wishes can see the old versions and edit history. Stop bothering him. Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 07:00, 12 February 2008 (UTC)