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Revision as of 16:19, 19 February 2008

If you leave a message here, I'll reply here. Also, I've archived some of my older messages in Archive 1.

IAR

You're right, it's a bear of a question :) I wouldn't normally ask it, but in Remember the dot's last RFA, that exact same question was asked, and the response wasn't satisfactory to me (something RtD mentioned in Question 4). Really, I think all admins should try to gain a basic understanding of IAR, though -- Misplaced Pages becomes more and more bureaucratic as time goes on. Ral315 (talk) 06:57, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

RE: Misplaced Pages accounts

No, Misplaced Pages accounts aren't deleted because of copyrights and stuff like that. As for the userboxes, they can be found here. If you don't find what you need, let me know and I'll make it for you. Me and RC used to live in the same neighborhood in Dayton, Ohio. He's my best friend. Burner0718 23:24, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Slide Away

Hi there, I'm not sure about how you've done your move of Slide Away... It looks like you were trying to move the content from Slide Away (Verve song) to Slide Away which was fine, but you don't then need to nominate the original page for deletion. afds are generally used for controversial deletions, in future you may want to consider WP:prod or even WP:speedy deletions instead. In this case though, a redirect is probably best, as you don't then need to update every page that linked to the old page, it automatically takes people to the right one. Shout if you need a hand with anything by posting to my talk page. Paulbrock (talk) 21:36, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

re:warning vandals

Hey, the templates are found here. Now, for example, if you type(or copy and paste, which is what I do :)) this, {{subst:uw-vandalism1}}, you'll get this!

Welcome to Misplaced Pages. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Misplaced Pages, at least one of your recent edits did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you.

Now, if you do this for example, {{subst:uw-vandalism1|Tom Brady}}, you'll get this,

Welcome to Misplaced Pages. Although everyone is welcome to make constructive contributions to Misplaced Pages, at least one of your recent edits, such as the one you made to Tom Brady, did not appear to be constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you.

Like I said above, you can find the library of warning templates here. Alot huh? Hope this helps. Burner0718 04:08, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

• I'll start using those. I have a lot to learn about the various templates. Thanks Enigmaman (talk) 05:09, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

No problem. Burner0718 05:15, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

adoption

Hey, uh, if you have over 1,000 edits, why are you adopted? RC-0722 /_kills 15:41, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Because I never discovered adoption until I was well along. :) Enigmaman (talk) 16:54, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Neither did I. I would adopt a user but my block was last month and they like them to be at least six months old if you have one. RC-0722 /_kills

Who knows, maybe I'll adopt someone one day. It is possible to have a lot of experience with Misplaced Pages and not know the finer details of the policies, templates, procedures, etc. So then you can either read through all the material they have, or ask someone. :D Enigmaman (talk) 17:06, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

True, true. RC-0722 /_kills 17:38, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

re:signature

Thanks, I've never had someone complement my signature before. Yeah, I've never heard of allstarecho, but I know nelson (unfortunately). I was blocked by his buddy (pats1) for having a shared account. It was quite a coincidence since a few days before I had a dispute with him over a rewrite of week 17 on the 2007 New England Patriots season. RC-0722 /_kills 18:05, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

re:indenting

Umm, I just go as far as I can before unindenting. the indents help others follow conversation. Your example really isn't too long, although I wouldn't go much further. I've went a little further than that before. I'd say this should be the max:

This is about as far as I'd go. Hope this helps. :) Burner0718 03:47, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah. I think I'll just keep indenting in the future and let others worry about it. Heh. Enigmaman (talk) 03:49, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Good idea... :) Burner0718 03:53, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

The tilding "enigma" :)

I cleaned it up! (I think)--Sallicio 06:53, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

One suggestion: You may want to include a link to your Talk page in your signature. User talk:Sallicio Enigma (talk) 06:56, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

This signature has my talk page in the target...even though I can't get it to say that it is my usertalk... see for yourself--->----Sallicio 07:18, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Sh%*! I just had it...hold on. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sallicio (talk • contribs) 07:19, 11 February 2008 (UTC) ---Okay, NOW it links...but it still doesn't say usertalk. hmmph. ----Sallicio 07:23, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

No, you got it. The oplus thingy now links to your talk page, and that's good. Most people with custom sigs have their name link to their user page and then something after that (a word, a symbol, or anything else) link to their talk page. Enigma (talk) 07:25, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

RfA

I wanted to be the first to congratulate you on passing the RfA this time. Good to have you as an administrator and good luck! You'll need it. Enigma (talk) 16:52, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks! There's still 2 more days left in my RfA, though. "It ain't over till it's over." —Remember the dot 18:57, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

I'm calling it now! It's getting ugly. :P Enigma (talk) 19:00, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

re:Not understanding something

I don't think he's not online so let me see. I know Mediawiki is a free software package for wikipedia and other wiki's but I don't know what a mediawiki solution is. RC-0722 /_kills 21:14, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

You mean "I don't think he's online"? :P I'm just curious about it, because it sounded like Luna thought I would understand that. Enigma (talk) 21:36, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Sorry 'bout that. Yeah, I was talking to burner and he said he didn't know either so, you might just want to ask Luna upfront. RC-0722 /_kills 23:13, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

RCs right, I don't know what a Mediawiki solution is. I'd recommend asking Luna too, sorry. I'm only on the english wikipedia and don't have a mediawiki account. BTW, it's ok about the message thingy... :) Burner0718 23:59, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

You mean you're not going to press charges? I appreciate it. :P Anyway, I did ask him earlier today. I'm waiting for a reply. Enigma (talk) 00:01, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Good idea... :) Burner0718 00:13, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

re:question for you

Yeah, I think so. It used to be like that on my userpage until I added the "My Dictionary" section. Hope that helps! RC-0722 /_kills 04:24, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Same here. When I added about three or four sections to my userpage, I got the "contents" box. Burner0718 04:40, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

A new record?

Hi Enigma:

The short-lived user I was asking Jamie about was "Estonecipher666".

Turns out that was not even close to a record.

Some people seem to want to go from first edit to a block quickly.

Cheers, Wanderer57 (talk) 17:22, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks Enigma (talk) 18:13, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks

Thank you for participating in my RfA! It was closed as successful with 74 supporting, 3 opposing, and 1 neutral. I will do my best to live up to the trust that you have placed in me. —Remember the dot 18:44, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Please help with disruptive bot

This is extremely frustrating. The owner of the bot is refusing to address concerns about the bot's edits. There was a WP:AN complaint, but the bot was quickly unblocked and is rampaging again. I posted something there, but I'm out of options. I've tried discussing it on the bot's talk page, but that proved futile. Can you help? Enigma (talk) 01:49, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Unfortunately, there's not much I can do. You'd have to petition to relax the non-free content policy, which is a daunting task. We could, however, work around the problem by adding more preloaded templates to Misplaced Pages:Upload, like what is done with the "logo" option. That would at least prevent images uploaded in the future from being needlessly deleted, though all the template jargon would still be confusing to many. —Remember the dot 02:04, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

It's driving me crazy, and I'm not the only one. A ton of people have complained about it, but Betacommand refuses to do a damn thing. Also, if you see the talk page, there's someone there dismissing all of the concerns and then saying he can't do anything about it anyway. We have a disruptive bot, a disruptive bot owner, and a user trolling the bot's talk page. It's too much and I don't want to deal with it anymore. Enigma (talk) 02:11, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

One option would be to start a petition at Misplaced Pages:Village pump (proposals) asking people to sign their names if they want to see BetacommandBot turned off. That might work, though people would scream that polling is evil. —Remember the dot

OK, I'll do it. Of course that makes me a target, but oh well. Enigma (talk) 02:17, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

I reverted your comment to save you from having to have it shot down. The second issue you brought up was already resolved, indeed, if Betacommand does that again then a developer has promised to personally block him. Also, you can't ask people to sign a petition and then say that you might change the petition's text later. Let's try to come up with a better way to approach this. —Remember the dot 02:25, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

For example, you could bring up that BetacommandBot works extremely fast and has no way to tell whether or not an image is worth keeping. Rather than helping to fix problems with fair use rationales, like Polbot does, BetacommandBot just tags images for deletion mindlessly. —Remember the dot 02:28, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Anyway, just give it some thought, and run your wording past me before you post it. —Remember the dot 02:30, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Im sorry but what am I ignoring? Most of what you brought up has been re-hashed 20 times in separate discussions. I just enforce policy. β 02:19, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

We're proposing a new guideline: "No enforcing WP:NFCC#10c by bot." —Remember the dot 02:20, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

kidd deal

thanks for calling out the misspelling of deveans name. however, he has informed the league he will do so, which blocked the deal. comment added by Wjmummert (talk • contribs) 02:41, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

i did source it.... via espn comment added by Wjmummert (talk • contribs) 02:51, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the offer

I'd actually like to say go ahead, but there are actually a couple of individuals who have my talk page on their watchlists who have been using my page as a reference for their efforts at rescuing images (they must be offline this week or something). Although I no longer support images on Misplaced Pages, I do support the Novels WikiProject and they like to have book covers. I also want to keep it up as an example. But if I can stop the bot from sending me any more, then I'll be happy, too. I have some method in my madness as I hope my request gets a lot of "me too" responses. If there's a bright side, it is my understanding that all "non-conforming" images are supposed to be deleted by the end of March (after which I guess the world blows up or something), so hopefully the flood will end. All this said, if there are any images cited on my page that you want to work on, please feel free!. Cheers! 23skidoo (talk) 03:50, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

• I spotted Remember the Dot's guideline suggestion, above and have asked him for more detail. I don't think there's much can be done about Betacommandbot or the others (his isn't the only one, just the worst) before the end of March, but we can at least try and prevent this disruption from happening again in the future. 23skidoo (talk) 04:01, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

re:lol

Sorry, sometimes I forget to warn them, oh well... Burner0718 04:54, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Yes, good idea... Burner0718 06:50, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Recent vandal

Thanks for your message. Can you let me know where the alternate page is where you are reporting this vandal as I would like to track progress and am interested in learning about the process generally. Kind regards--Calabraxthis 18:07, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

Don't -

- worry :-) Scarian 01:41, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Since I mixed it up, I decided to look at the user's recent edits anyway. All have been to add questionable links to four different pages. Enigma (talk) 01:42, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

As long as they've stopped it doesn't matter so much. They did appear to have a hate campaign going for whomever the person in the article(s) are/were (I can't remember so much, I'm quite tired heh). Take care! Scarian 01:44, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

IT'S NOT VANDALISM

Ken Broo was the sports director at WKRC for many years, before returning to channel 5. This is the second time today you have made a false accusation that I have vandalizied. Off to the mods I go! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.64.155.216 (talk) 04:44, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Here's your freaking citation, if that's the problem(I think it's more of a mental stability issue with you and you sockpuppets that you have stalking my contribs page)

http://www.wlwt.com/wlwtnewsteam/297585/detail.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.64.155.216 (talk) 04:55, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Yup, they keep my feet warm and they impersonate other users. How great is that? Kakofonous (talk) 05:09, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

RE:71.64.155.216

I've blocked them for 24 hours due to his repeated personal attacks, despite warning by multiple editors. Hopefully when they come back they'll be more willing to cooperate. Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 05:19, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw. Blocked that one indefinitely; if he tries to circumvent blocks, he'll keep getting blocked. Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 05:29, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Second'd - the situation is well in hand. Guess my efforts at defusing the situation were less than effective - but, eh, it was worth a shot. Now, I guess the sock hunt begins. Best, UltraExactZZ ~ Evidence 05:36, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

The user never had any interest in good faith edits. It just kept trying to own pages, and then making personal attacks on anyone who tried to warn it. Good riddance. But hey, at least I got a good laugh out of it calling a bunch of editors "sockpuppets of Enigaman". Enigma (talk) 05:39, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey, I'm the one who owns socks around here... :P Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 06:09, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the barnstar! Happy to help out. Cheers, Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 06:22, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

burner's page

Sorry 'bout that; I'm virus scanning my computer. That is pretty funny, he's probably bipolar. Did he get my page for removing his "comments"? RC-0722 /_kills 14:14, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Extremely funny. He reported you to AIV for placing a warning? hahahahahahaha. ROTFLOL. he put on my talk page enigmaman user needs to stop vandalizing and go to bed. Like I could do anything about it! Even if I could, I wouldn't! This is hilarious. BTW, I might be gone for a few hours (Star Wars: Battlefront 2 tournament). Funny. That guy needs to get a combine and go race the Amish. RC-0722 /_kills 14:40, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Like I said, hilarious. A little hint of advice; if they blank their talk pages we are supposed to assume that they read the warnings. But yeah, the guy's probably skitzo. LOL. RC-0722 /_kills 18:44, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Diifernt. LOL. O didn't know that. :) RC-0722 /_kills 20:00, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

re: Shocking  :-)

An anon with a big Wiki-heart. Misplaced Pages was built on the contributions of anonymous editors. I am just a little "busier" than others. After rejecting my old account(after rolling over 20000 edits with it)... I have dealt with all the positives(many Wiki friends) and all the negatives(anti-anon bias/prejudice) that being an anon can bring. I prefer the "purity" of anonymous editing and will never go back to my old account. Misplaced Pages is the encyclopedia that "anyone can edit". And I work hard everyday to prove that "an anyone" can do just that... and do it well. Cheers! and have a nice day! ! 156.34.142.110 (talk) 17:57, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

29 years.

No, not really a joke. I block blatant vandals for 29 years instead of indefinitely (technically a shorter period... and middle age usually fixes school vandals). This user in particular was vandalizing multiple pages (including a few that were deleted), so I blocked him for 29; if he wants to be unblocked, I have no problem with that as long as he decides to contribute constructively. · AndonicO 22:24, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

re:signatures & archives

You can get as creative as you want with your sig. Go to WP:Signatures for some guidelines. As for the archives, just create a subpage and cut-and-paste the finished sections to ,for example (you can really use this wikilinked page though... :-)), User talk:Enigmaman/Archive1, while leaving the still live conversations on your talk page. Then of course, wikilink the archive to your talk page. It's easier than using CluebotIII. If you need anything else, let me know. Burner0718 03:57, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I know what ya mean about the vandals :D. I have your page watchlisted. I've been on a small wikibreak the past few days but I'm back to work now. lol. I honestly don't know how to make words diagonal either. My current sig uses this code with the raw signature box checked, ''']''' '']''. You can use this as an example. I actually used another user's sig code to design my own so go ahead and use mine if you want :). Feel free to use my sandbox to test your sig and let me know if you need any more help. Burner0718 19:36, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Great, let me know when ya finish it. Burner0718 19:45, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Ok, trying to think what to tell ya... lol. The only thing I can think of is to make sure you checked the "Raw signature" checkbox just under the custon signature box. Try that and let me know what happens. Burner0718 20:06, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Looks good homie. I read my prefs and saw that it said pretty much that if you use markup, check the raw sig box. Anyway, if you need anything, let me know. :) Burner0718 20:14, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Creepy

I'm on a mac. a 10 year old mac powerbook G3. creepy. —Preceding unsigned comment added by RC-0722 (talk • contribs) 04:02, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

lol. Been a while since I've used a really old computer. I've been using the same one for about four years now, from when I bought it new. Enigma (talk) 00:09, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

It's even worse cuz I'm a windows user :( RC-0722 /_kills 00:10, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

the office: jim's transfer

which episode was that? was that before casino night? if not, by no future i think he meant no future with pam. otherwise, he wouldn't have left if he thought he still had the chance to be with pam. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.176.143.74 (talk) 19:09, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Burners sandbox

Interesting... very interesting. But did you add your bearded man? RC-0722 /_kills 18:19, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

I looked in the dictionary and I still don't understand what that means! :D Enigma 18:20, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

It's just a pure joke, it doesn't really mean anything. It kind of like the Get a combine and we'll go race the Amish one. RC-0722 /_kills 18:22, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

WooHoo

YAY! BTW, he usually doesn't get on till 'bout 2 PM or so, FYI. Congrats! RC-0722 /_kills 18:21, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey, did you see that guy that vandalized my userpage like, three time yessterday? RC-0722 /_kills 18:32, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

I actually did, yeah. I wasn't online when it happened, so I couldn't revert it myself! I get a perverse pleasure out of reverting vandalism and warning users. Not sure why. :D Enigma 18:35, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Cool, I actually joined in December but I edited anon for about two years before I joined. One year is a big milestone, congrats! BTW, reverting vandalism is my favorite activity too. Burner0718 21:59, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Let me know when you finish! Burner0718 02:50, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

vandals

Classic. just classic. DIY, that TW give you THREE rollback buttons? But yeah, that is funny. RC-0722 /_kills 04:23, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Say what now? Sorry, I'm not up on all the common abbreviations. Enigma 04:26, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Did you know (DIY) I don't know all of them either; that's why I bookmarked a texting dictionary. I'm going to bed now so don't expect any fast responses LOL. RC-0722 /_kills 04:29, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

WHAT? How is DIY Did you know? And who is TW? I'm even more confused now. :D Enigma 04:33, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Last time I checked, did you know was DYN. Also, TW stands for Twinkle. It gives you another rollback button, if you have Mozilla Firefox. Hope this helps. BTW, I noticed that your sig is University of Florida colors. Burner0718 04:40, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Haha, yes, I guess it is. I've been doing things manually, without Twinkle or the other tools. Enigma 04:43, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Spooky...

I know. I couldn't figure out what to make of that message. Hmm. Master of Puppets _{Call me MoP!☺} 07:21, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

heh. I thought maybe he was threatening to leave, but I'll choose to interpret it as something else. More fun that way. Enigma 07:23, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Curbing Vandalism

Can you tell me how I can be more effective in curbing vandalism???