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When Americans dont monitor their children on the internet

There is no way that I can allow that to happen. You're right, his name is really Salvatore Lucania, but you can not name the article "Lucky Luciano" just because you feel that sounds better. That article is named "Charles Luciano", NOT LUCKY LUCIANO! DO YOU UNDERSTAND?????? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Charlir91 (talk • contribs) 14:09, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Excuse me, but is this like your period? Is this so important to you that you just have to have it your way? If that's the case, then why? Why is it so important to that this site isn't named "Charles Luciano"? Is your name "Charles Luciano"? Is that why you want the site named "Lucky", instead of "Charles"? Don't you have a job? GET A LIFE! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Charlir91 (talk • contribs) 15:38, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Oh my, did I hit a soft spot there? Why would you bring up the "Emo"-thing? I haven't said anything about any emos, but maybe you're an emo. Maybe your personal opinion do have an effect on this article. I mean, maybe you're f*^cked up, I don't know. All that I do know is that you have no idea what you're talking about. Proffessional opinions, my ass... But hey, who don't you go kill yourself? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Charlir91 (talk • contribs) 18:20, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

History of Islam in southern Italy

Your view has been opposed by three editors (incl. myself) and no other editor has come to support you. You have no justification, therefore, for going ahead with your proposed merger. Any more of this "redirecting" without engaging in discussion to generate consensus and I will have to report this as an "incident" to an administrator. I'd be happy to hear further reasons for a merger, but you have not responded to either my own or Pippu's latest points at Talk:Emirate of Sicily. Again, this is unacceptable and you must stop. Srnec (talk) 03:54, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Happy to engage in discussion, but please keep the ad hominem attacks and the hyperbole to yourself. They serve no purpose. Another editor has reverted your redirects now. I told you to stop. Until you have support, you have no business redirecting articles (i.e. deleting content). Srnec (talk) 20:03, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

Can you be specific about your beefs with the lead? Really, you just throw around terms like "trolling", "blogging", "anti-Neapolitan", "anti-Sicilian", "Islamophilia". You also cleary have a strong dislike of Islam (and maybe Muslims) and its relationship to Italy especially. But I don't necessarily have a positive view of the whole thing myself, I just want to report facts. My problems with your lead are this: you removed a useful link to Islam in Italy in a sentence that establishes some context and you insist on an inaccurate "tips of Apulia and Calabria" while insisting on the word "interlude" in an attempt to downplay the significance of the whole thing. Maybe the above editor Charlir91 gave you a bad impression of Wikipedians, but I can assure you that editors such as I do not wish for anything other than accuracy and verifiability. And as to the issue of the images: it was not an attack on you or your editing (though I don't think the images add much to their articles), but a simple request that you correct certain errors of fact in the image descriptions. I'd do it myself, but I wouldn't know what the proper descriptions are. Srnec (talk) 00:31, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Images

The images you uploaded of Williams I, II, and III of Sicily, Roger I of Sicily, Conrad IV of Germany, and Ladislaus of Naples are not medieval depictions. They come from much later. They may very well be public domain, but you have to change the image descriptions. Further, the image of Charles II of Naples is of a tomb effigy. It is not a painting. Can you correct the image descriptions? Srnec (talk) 23:17, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

English-language histories of the Regno

Gennarous,

Do you know of any good histories of the Kingdom of Naples under the Angevins (say 1262 or 1285 to 1435)? I'd like to improve some of the articles on Joan I, Charles of Durazzo, and various other Tarantini & Durazzeschi, but I've never found a good book in English on the kinstrife and civil war that wracked the Kingdom after the death of Robert. Any recommendations you could make would be appreciated. Choess (talk) 03:17, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Eggplant/aubergine

The terms are both used in English. "Aubergine" is preferred in the UK, while "eggplant" is far more common in other English-speaking countries - and "eggplant" was previously very common in the UK as well. You may be familiar with the UK usage, but in cases where there are two clear variants, the policy is to go with the original usage on WP, and the page was created under "eggplant" in 2002. I don't know why you insist that "aubergine" is the only correct usage. 65.190.89.154 (talk) 08:40, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

Request for review

Hiya, could use your expertise if you have some time? We're currently dealing with a POV-pusher who's creating a lot of forks on historical articles. His stuff usually looks good on first glance, but when we dig deeper there are usually profound sourcing issues, and he's actually on track to be put on an editing restriction at ArbCom. Anyway, today he created Arabo-Norman civilization. To my knowledge there was no such "civilization", though there was definitely a period of Arabo-Norman art and architecture. However, I'll be honest that I'm not that familiar with this particular time period, so could use an expert. Could you please take a look, and advise on the best way to handle cleanup? Should this be merged to something else, or perhaps renamed to something better? We've got some concerns listed at the talkpage, feel free to comment there. Thanks, Elonka 08:46, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick reply.  :) Do you see anything in the article that's worth merging? --Elonka 09:13, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Kings of Jerusalem

About your qustion. I suppose, it wouldn't be a joke: Patrick Desmond Carl-Alexander Guinness is the eldest son of Princess Marie Gabriele (or Marie-Gabrielle) von Urach. And the House of Urach, in turn, have a claim for the Jerusalem Kingdom. -- Worobiew (talk) 14:14, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Patrick is the heir-general of Maria, daughter of Amadeus IX, Duke of Savoy, while the Prince de Ligne de La Trémoille is the heir-general of Anna, another daughter of Amadeus. The birth order of Anna and Maria is not known with certainty, so either one could be the rightful heir to Cyprus, Jerusalem & Armenia. Choess (talk) 21:34, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

WP CIVIL

Please remember to maintain civility and not make personal attacks as you did in this edit summary http://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Multiculturalism&curid=51885&diff=199328313&oldid=199253533 TheRedPenOfDoom (talk) 12:47, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Agreed. Gennarous, the edit was fine, but calling an anon "commie troll" in an edit summary, was uncalled for. Please try to avoid this kind of language in the future. --Elonka 16:03, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Naples

The last time I saw the article on Naples it was a sorry mess. I was delighted to see that it is now a well organised and referenced piece, it appears mostly due to your efforts. Keep up the good work! Dionix (talk) 03:42, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the comment. :) Gennarous (talk) 11:09, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Have you had the chance to check out Talk:Italians#Appearance vote - to close 03/26/08? Dionix (talk) 23:18, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Neapolitan provinces

Could you load on commons all those images representing neapolitan provinces' coats of arms please? Thanks and bye --Wento (talk) 11:11, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

Request

Hiya, instead of edit-warring at History of Islam in southern Italy, could you please engage at the talkpage? I'm trying to follow along, but some clear and civil comments from you at the talkpage would be preferable to some of the edit summaries that I've been seeing recently.  :/ Can you please try to ratchet the civility up a notch? Thanks, Elonka 12:21, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

Two Sicilies & co.

I think now it's good. Thanks for your help. I want to thank you also for your last uploading on commos. BYE. --Wento (talk) 12:12, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Sicily

Please do not cut and paste content to move articles. This move is controversial as it has been discussed extensively in the past. Please use WP:RM for such moves. older ≠ wiser 17:40, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

How can a move putting a world power which is mentioned in the bible, at its correct location be "controversial"? This is a most simple and obvious move. - Gennarous (talk) 17:41, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

1) See the voluminous talk page discussions 2) Please don't ever cut and paste to implement a move. older ≠ wiser 17:46, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

OK, after reading the archives as suggested, it would seem that the article is where it is because User:Newkai is one of the most ignorant human beings I have ever read the words of, despite it would seem many people trying to enlighten him. I'll go through the move ways which you said to get this fixed, WP:RM. Thanks. - Gennarous (talk) 18:05, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Personal attacks

Please see Misplaced Pages's no personal attacks policy. Comment on content, not on contributors. Personal attacks damage the community and deter users. Note that continued personal attacks will lead to blocks for disruption. Please stay cool and keep this in mind while editing. Thank you. --Elonka 00:36, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

This was in reference to your above post about Newkai. If you disagree with what he is writing, you can of course change it, but it is not appropriate to refer to him as an "ignorant human being", as that is a violation of WP:NPA. I would recommend that you consider refactoring or deleting the post, thanks. --Elonka 00:44, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Gennarous, regarding your commentary at Talk:History of Islam in southern Italy, I strongly recommend that you try to focus strictly on the article and not on Srnec. Using phrases such as "You're really trying to stretch", "ignorantly trying", and "Srnec wants to Islamise southern Italy with misinformation" are violations of WP:CIVIL. They are also not effective communication. If you are trying to persuade editors to adopt a different viewpoint, insulting them is not going to make them listen. Instead, just stick to the sources. If you think someone is wrong, point to a source that backs this up and say, "The article should say <wording> because that's how it's interpreted in <name author's work>. This will be much stronger than you offering what appear to be personal opinions that are not backed up by sources. You say "actual scholar" but you don't say which scholar. If you can be more specific, I think it would strengthen your arguments. --Elonka 04:32, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Wiki behaviour

I'm noticing that in nearly ALL the articles you tackled, you also created mess, clashes, gave into personal attacks, repeatedly deleted others' respectable work etc, without caring at all if not about your opinion. I strongly suggest you to check Misplaced Pages pages about behaviour here. Good work. --Attilios (talk) 09:10, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Lomis

Okay, I'm taking a look at things. Thank you for being more civil, but please be very careful to not make any kinds of personal attacks. When at an article talkpage, for best results, try not to talk about the other editor at all, just stick strictly to discussing the article's content. Also, when placing a warning on an editor's talkpage, once is enough. If they delete it, just take it as an indication that they've read it. Most admins will routinely check page history to see what's been posted, so it won't matter if a warning is still on the page or not. Lastly, one more caution, be careful about using the "will be blocked" template, since you're not an admin and can't enforce something like that. Better on repeated warnings is just to leave a note with a diff rather than to escalate the templates. Oh, and to really make yourself look good, think about going to old posts of yours where you may have made personal attacks, and delete anything which may be construed as uncivil. Being willing to change older comments of yours is considered a mark of considerable maturity. --Elonka 21:23, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Clarity

Gennarous, I can see that you are trying to do better, civility-wise, but this comment by you was not helpful."I will partake in Elonka's advise by not calling the athiest people here the "C" word or the "B N" words. I know you feel strongly about the topic at Rab concentration camp. I sympathize greatly with the emotional reactions caused by this subject. But let me be clear, you must stop the personal comments about other editors. If this happens again, there will be further consequences, up to and including a block. Please do not make this necessary. --Elonka 07:04, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Please note that my caution extends to all articles, not just the Rab article. For example, at about the same time as I posted the above message, you made this edit, with an edit summary of "garbage revisionism" at the article on Southern Italy. Again, I am not commenting on the content of the article, but I am going to be quite insistent that your edit summaries must comply with WP:CIVIL from now on. --Elonka 07:21, 10 April 2008 (UTC)