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LGBT WikiProject Newsletter

The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter

The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter! Issue XII - December 1, 2007 Ms Julie is .. unavailable .. this month, so Isaac and Gopher have stepped in to put this newsletter thing together. We may not be as funny as you're used to, but if you'd like a free drink, come see me at the bar. That might help. Maybe. And no, there aren't any flashing lights or fancy pictures this month - I'm still recovering from a whopping hangover. Julie's recovering too, but that's a story I'll let her tell. Two New Featured Articles (and...) Emma Goldman was promoted to Featured status on 2007 December 27. If you don't know Ms. Goldman, she was a Lithuanian anarchist. Aren't many of those around, really, so having one of our very own is special. She'll be dancing the Cha-Cha on the Promenade deck later tonight. Ann Bannon was promoted to Featured status on 2007 December 3. Faithful readers may remember Moni moaning that we didn't mention this promotion in the last newsletter. Happy now? Ludwig Wittgenstein seems to have been dropped from the vaunted roles - he was downgraded to "B class" on 29 December 2007. What a way to end the year! Let's see - we started December with 35 FAs. We added two and dropped one. So somewhere there's a missing FA - has anyone seen one lying around? Jumpaclass Contest winner The winner of 2007's Jumpaclass competition is Fluffball70 (talk · contribs)! Congratulations, Fluffball! Despite strongly being urged to select Love Boat as the next WikiProject Collaboration, she has chosen LGBT Symbols as her prize: please contribute to its improvement - or enter the competition for this year! Ze Portal The marathon efforts of Dev920 against her astonishing abilities of procrastination continued this month, and she managed to update the Portal's main articles. Whether she will finally beat her procrastination pixies in submission and update the biographies remains to be seen, but Jeffpw has leapt to the rescue and taken it upon himself to do all our lovely news. Friends, lend us your goodwill and your eyeballs, and mosey on over to see all Jeff's hard work. Also, back in October 2007, Allstarecho and Benjiboi worked diligently on the "WP:LGBT Random Quote" and "WP:LGBT Random Picture" sections of the portal. They added many new quotes and pictures but, and yes here's the cat's meow friends... you can now use these on your own user pages! To add the "WP:LGBT Random Quote" to your own userpage, use: {{Portal:LGBT/Quotes}} And to add the "WP:LGBT Random Picture" to your own userpage, use: {{Portal:LGBT/Pics}} If you'd like to see it in action, check out Allstarecho's userpage for both in action and Benjiboi's talk page for the Quotes in action! The long, slow race toward FP status continues... Bisexual Awareness Month Folks in Utah are celebrating Bisexual Awareness Month. For our own wikicelebration, Alison suggests we try to bring Bisexuality at least up to good article status. Working on the Utah article would be encouraged, but do it stealthily - they don't like us to be *too* open. A cunning plan In a move sure to bring her fame and fortune at last, Dev920 (talk · contribs) has proposed that an FA buddying system be set up, to help nudge frightened tikes who also happen to write killer ass articles over that initial first FAC hurdle. Anyone interested in shepherding duties, or anyone interested in being made to lie beside still waters (handcuffs are optional), do drop Dev an RSVP so she can start battering those darned pixies... New members Let's give a big Love Boat welcome to all our new members: Mike1981, RAShippy, CoppBob, Altairisfar, Dureo, LessThanClippers William P. Coleman, Grrrlriot, Queer Scout, Kentucky1333, Melty girl, Phenominus, Avazina, Dfeuer, and Lycanthropiclion. We're glad to have you all aboard! New task-force? Zigzig20s has mentioned a desire to work on .. desire. Specifically literature by and about LGBT desire. To facilitate "LGBT Literature" taskforce, there will be shuffleboard and lesbian fiction on the foredeck later in the afternoon. Signup if you're interested. To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, please let us know here. If you have any news or any announcements to be broadcast, do let Your Cruise Director know.

Delivered sometime in January 2008 (UTC). SatyrBot (talk) 23:27, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

LGBT WikiProject Newsletter

The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter

The LGBT studies WikiProject Newsletter! Issue XIV - February 29, 2008 Article Milestones We have one new Featured Article this month - Emily Dickinson was recently promoted thanks to the hard work of Yllosubmarine! We also have 4 new GA-class articles: Ben Daniels, J. Michael Bailey, Rainer Werner Fassbinder, and Walt Whitman were promoted this month, but Dante's Cove was demoted. Wikinews Things are happening over at Misplaced Pages sister project Wikinews. First, Nicholas Turnbull became the first openly-Trans reporter to gain (resounding) accreditation by the Wikinews community. Second, project member David Shankbone is going to Rio de Janeiro at the invitation of the Rio Convention & Visitor's Bureau. Wikinews:Portal:LGBT Lambda Book Report Project member Moni3 has been working on the article for Barbara Gittings and noted that the Lambda Literary Foundation used the lead paragraph from Misplaced Pages, skillfully and lovingly written by Moni3, verbatim in the Lambda Literary Pioneers calendar. Moni3 contacted the Lambda Literary Foundation to let them know, and to ask if we could get a little write-up in the next Lambda Book Report. There is a preliminary text you can find here. Feel free to add to it. It should be no longer than 1,000 words, and it needs to be submitted by March 15. New members Let's give a big LGBT welcome to all our new members: Dylankidwell (talk · contribs), Jay*Jay (talk · contribs), Ftmichael (talk · contribs), AgnosticPreachersKid (talk · contribs), Phyesalis (talk · contribs) , Tullerk (talk · contribs), Ravenwhitehorse (talk · contribs), TigressofIndia (talk · contribs), Yohan euan o4 (talk · contribs), Masculinity (talk · contribs), Renegade Replicant (talk · contribs), and Youngwebprogrammer (talk · contribs)! User categories Place yourself in a user category so you can collaborate with other LGBT/Allied Wikipedians! Mostly for allies of LGBT people; To place yourself in Category:Wikipedians interested in LGBT issues, just add ] to your userpage and change the question mark to your username OR add this userbox by placing {{User:UBX/LGBTinterest}} on your userpage. Mostly for people who identify as either Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual or Transgender; To place yourself in Category:LGBT Wikipedians, just add ] to your userpage and change the question mark to your username OR add a userbox found at User:Xaosflux/UBX/Sexuality#Sexual orientation. St. Patrick's Day In honor of Saint Patrick's Day, why don't you consider improving one of these articles: Homosexuality and Roman Catholicism, LGBT rights in the Republic of Ireland, Campaign for Homosexual Law Reform, Recognition of gay unions in Ireland, List of gay and lesbian resource centres in Ireland, or any of the articles in our to-do list? Women's History Month March is Women's History Month in the United States. Help us celebrate by improving History of lesbianism or Lesbian American history! You could also find references for women in our giant list of LGB people to be sorted. To stop receiving this newsletter, or to receive it in a different format, please let us know here. If you have any news or any announcements to be broadcast, do let us know.

Delivered by SatyrBot around 17:14, 3 March 2008 (UTC) SatyrBot (talk) 17:31, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

George Gabriel Stokes

Hello. Thanks for improving the layout of George Gabriel Stokes.

The question I have is about his nationality. Some people seem to be quite anxious about whether he was Irish, British or Anglo-Irish. Personally I do not care, being from continental Europe. The last revert was by 128.12.191.65, stating he was Irish, but also changing his nationality to Irish, while Ireland at a nation did not exist, as far as I know (but I may be wrong). While before that, someone reverted it to British, as he lived most of his life in England. On the talk page there has also been some discussion on this. But I am a bit reluctant to ask questions on this matter there, because of possible controversies on this.

Anything of advice on this would be helpfull. Crowsnest (talk) 08:27, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I will leave it as it is, since the main thing is what Stokes contributed to the world, not his nationality. Crowsnest (talk) 19:37, 3 April 2008 (UTC)

Template:Laurence Olivier

Hi again. Have added color:white to the titlestyle, as I've found this is what sets the color for the v·d·e and show/hide links. I also switched the order of the Production links to be chronological (according to the dates in brackets). Hope that's okay. Sardanaphalus (talk) 23:33, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
PS Have you found that the {{·w}} dividers can work without the {{nowrap begin}} and {{nowrap end}} tags? I haven't checked this. If they can, that's useful to know.

Hank Azaria

Where exactly is the policy that states all biography articles must use the heading "Biography"? In my opinion it's completely superflous, it's obvious it's a biography to anyone who reads the first line of the lead, so what's the point in having it? Gran 16:09, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Well I disagree, is there a policy to support your view? To me it is like having the "Plot", "Cast", "Production" and "Reception" sections of a film article under a section heading of "Film". Pretty much everything in an article is connected, but it's pointless (in my view) to have them all under one general header. Gran 16:49, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Redirect of 1913 film

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Play

Hi there Emerson7, Play was deleted under the "Housekeeping" criteria which is used when we need to temporarily delete articles to allow a page move to take place. In this specific case the deletion of Play (which was a redirect page) was requested so that Play (disambiguation) could be moved there, if you check again now, you will see that since you left your message the move has been performed. Kind regards, nancy 07:02, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Muntz Stradivarius

Way back in April 2007, you edited the article Muntz Stradivarius. You did a quite nice job improving the phrasing and flow of the article, but you also removed a note that the reference listed in the article did not fully verify some of the claims made in the article. By removing this note, you left a false impression. This is not a good thing. I happened to be looking over various old edits I'd made (I was the one who first included that reference) and noticed your removal of the note. I've re-added it, and (even though it's a year later), I wanted to mention the problem to you. It's great to rephrase, and you did a good job there, but please don't remove information, particularly information about what is verified from an offline source. Thanks for your attention. JesseW, the juggling janitor 22:45, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Your added references in the article look quite good (I'm pleased to see the google books link -- last I checked they didn't have a nice way to link to books), and they do render the note I added unnecessary. However, I just looked over WP:MoS (and, more specifically, WP:CITE) and couldn't find anything recommending against such notes on sources. Could you point such language out to me? JesseW, the juggling janitor 06:26, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Couple of questions

First, where in the heck is that discussion about the icons in infobox? Your link seems to be wrong. It just goes to Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style (wrong? Misplaced Pages talk:Manual of Style#Nobel prize image). So where is it?

Second, I noticed you made an edit changing the date format on templates from month first to day first on dates. Is there a reason for doing this? Curious, as I thought all dates in an article should be the same format.

Third, (yea I know I said a couple of questions) when are you going to archive this page? A message keeps popping up "This page is 96 kilobytes long. It may be helpful to move older discussion into an archive subpage." It's eating up my computers memory when I go to this page. --_pete 18:47, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for updating the link. I thought I was going crazy. Now I can add my 2 cents.

On the dates. Yes it does make a difference. To unregistered users they get the raw formating. They can not set their preferences for date display. Since most users to wikipedia are unregistered, formating should be consistent within article. After all as editors that is why we are here, to write an encyclopedia.

Consistency within articles

The same format should be used in the main text, footnotes and references of each article, except for:

dates within quotations and titles, where the original format is retained;

explicit comparisons of date formatting.

Strong national ties to a topic

Articles on topics with strong ties to a particular English-speaking nation should generally use the more common date format for that nation; articles related to Canada may use either format consistently. Articles related to other countries that commonly use one of the two acceptable guidelines above should use that format.

Retaining the existing format

If an article has evolved using predominantly one format, the whole article should conform to that variety, unless there are reasons for changing it on the basis of strong national ties to the topic.

In the early stages of writing an article, the format chosen by the first major contributor to the article should be used, unless there is reason to change it on the basis of strong national ties to the topic. Where an article that is not a stub shows no clear sign of which format is used, the first person to insert a date is equivalent to the first major contributor.

WP:MOS has a guide for see here for more information

Again thanks for the updating the link. And I won't say anything about the other thing (unless you want help with it). --_pete 20:08, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Bing Crosby

I returned the article to its condition prior to your cleanup. I think that the "Year in film" wikilinks don't need to be thrown out. Binksternet (talk) 05:38, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

hello. thanks for the note. however, this is a classic case of overlinking , and i've restored the edits. further, in future, if there's an edit you wish to revert, please be careful to only undo that portion you challenge. thanks --emerson7 05:55, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Speaking of being careful to only undo that portion you challenge... you reverted the reference I added to the Personal life section. Do you challenge the reference?

One validation for "year in film" links is, if a reader goes to, say, 1939 in film and keys in Alt-j to see what links to the page, they may see some further places to go that aren't spelled out on the page.

The page WP:OVERLINK seems to say that only redundant links need be removed. You removed each instance of "xxxx in film". I think that's too much of a response.

Finally, I reverted your taking away of the small font tags and putting USA in place of United States. I reverted your trimming of small informational comments like (Cameo} for a cameo appearance. I reverted your taking away the Academy Awards succession box. I reverted your removal of the TV appearances. The only thing you put in that I feel I should not have reverted was the curvy open and closed quotes around the nickname Bing. I have no opinion regarding curvy vs. straight quotes in that usage.

I am reverting once again, this time with redundant links taken out. I agree that redundant links aren't necessary, and are a fine example of overlinking. I'm also copying this discussion to the article's discussion page, as it may interest others. Binksternet (talk) 06:46, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Sviatoslav Richter

Looks like we've got a continuing problem with Steiner_Redlich making disruptive edits to the Richter page. How can we get him blocked?THD3 (talk) 12:30, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Thank you!THD3 (talk) 22:34, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi emerson7, in reply to your note, I think you misunderstand slightly - I did not blank Steiner Redlich's user page, I merely removed the "welcome" template and left all of the vandalism warnings. It makes it more clear that the account is being used only for vandalism. I removed your listing at WP:AIV because he stopped editing after your last warning. If he returns and is actively vandalizing, I would have no problem blocking him. Best, Kaisershatner (talk) 21:29, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Reverts

Probably is. I guess {{reflist|2}} and nee are the topics. I don't understand why you've (selectively?) changed "reflist" to "references", and/or why you've removed "nee". I thought changing it to "references" might have had something to do with the number of references cited per article (if small, then "references", if many, then "reflist"), but you've left it as "reflist" on articles with one reference or so, and changed it to "references" on articles with seven references, so I didn't notice a consistant pattern (and besides, there's no policy - as far as I know - glad to be corrected - that states "reflist" should be changed to "references" if there are only a few of them). As for "nee", it differentiates a person's maiden name from the last name they use. Without it, it is not clear if the last name is one the person (usually female, of course) was born with, the last name they adapted at marriage, or a re-marriage name. I know it's not a major issue, but still. I don't find "nee" to be a pretentious phrase, it's used in many featured articles and WP:MOSBIO even recommends that "nee" be used to denote the maiden names of famous women in their article openings. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 03:33, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

I am not stalking you, I've previously edited every single one of the articles that I've reverted on now. I'm afraid that I am stuck to the bain of consistancy, so I can not imagine one article having "reflist" and the other "references" witought some kind of policy dictating where goes which (and in your edits, I've seen no consistancy at all either regarding this area, which is what troubles me). As for "nee", what is the "simpler construction" that communicates the "same idea"? Without "nee" or something along those lines, it's unclear, again, if it's the maiden name, the married name, or a re-marriage name (and once again, you've kept some "nee"s while removing others, so the consistancy bug comes up again) All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 05:00, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

I don't see the problem with the "consistency" - that's why there are guidelines and policies - so Misplaced Pages articles are consistent with one another. As for WP:OWN, does your reference to it essentially translate that your versions of the articles should stay over mine? As for the Wikistalking part of Misplaced Pages:Harassment, as I've said above, I've only edited the articles that I have edited before you made your changes. I've not touched your other edits. It also states that wikistalking comes from the "intent of causing annoyance or distress to another contributor", which is definitely not my motivation. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 05:25, 11 April 2008 (UTC)